1st world behavior in a still 3rd world city / country.
I*had a strong report removed yesterday, saying that we should go back to Frank Casio, as a re-start about how we should pay. Parts of it was perhaps inappropriate. I got it though that admin not had followed the discussion at all and found it therefore offensive!
I have only strong critique; the thread has the purpose of giving mongers a good market information. Instead there are "reports" about trivial things; fares on the bus, weather report. Small-meanness and fear, taking the home-countries social strict behavior with them. This take up space and finally genuine people ends to read ISG, it feels like reading yesterdays's local newspaper.
Eat those persons porridge with estrogen in it for breakfast? They save on everything except the important; prices for erotic services. I would be amazed at how much they are prepared to throw away in a unnecessarily way and at the same time destroying for us who strive for getting the girls to accept local prices for foreigners as well. If we can do that Medellin will be Paradise Medellin, as Frank Casio used to say.
My statistics clearly shows that we have a big advantage. ; we are few in numbers and can survive without erotic service from a hot girl. It's boring. That's all. She, on the other hand, wakes up with an empty wallet! My statistics shows that just in Colombia there are 1 million 8´s-10's in Colombia 18-33 yo, 160.000 + 40-160,000 incoming from smaller cities in Antioquia and other regions to keep their anonymity, which it's easy in a 4 million metropolis.
A few can manage to study at a expensive university, which is the only one that give well payed jobs and live a good life, without the need for extra money from some sort of erotic, social service to men. 8/9 of 10 can not and hence studies at CENA etc, which at best gives them the same type of skills for a professional job, but in the "wrong" social environment. These girls compete in beauty, luxury items and that is equal to spend 5 M COP a month. In long periods they need simply to isolate themselves and just do what must be done-study and work regular, with embarrassment and abstinence of all kinds. Maybe she even not can afford Bodytech and then gain weight again, adding even more stress.
Legal Tender gave us the perfect example; he granted a dentist student his scholarship. A very well built girl, he published a few photos of her here. How did he find this Pearl- he was buddy with; her teacher/s who recommended her!
Most ISG guys seems to be lurkers, some bring 1st World rules into a 3rd world society, but just on sexual pleasure, or do they pay the taxi-driver 15,000 COP, when the meter says 6750?
*Nylpimp came with and bold counteroffensive a few days ago; thanks!
I can only recommend 1st world men that go to 3rd world countries with a young population. There are 100;1 or 1000;1 for every 1st sweet girl to us mongers. These girls are actors! If they could, they would rob you of your cash, credit cards, and try to use them on the internet ASAP, which is possible if they have the CCV code, so erase it and save it on a Hotmail or g-mail account. But why rob a gringo when he says yes to 300% of what a paisa would pay? And with some good acting, repeat, being recommended to this likewise stupid friends! Saves a lot of problems if the police should bother about it if you make a report and she is recognized.
As I show, and as Frank Casio had as a theme for months; it is easy to come to terms with girls. Just the facts that they don't have to be slaves, which they are at 686 k COP / month + transport at 60 hours a week, no rights, social security. And many times just kicked out, having being promised last month salary and getting 2 this month, or even 3! The girls have Nothing, and they have opportunity of nothing! Just paying her 75 mil COP two times a week, makes her free from slavery!
El Poblado; girls get overpaid and by an apartment there and live with her mother. On laughed at me on the phone when I said I lived in Laureles, like it was a kind of low class barrio!
Aviod El Poblado! Do an intensive course in Spanish, these can be had in the US, in Medellin, since nobody can stay horny 24/7 for a fortnight! And it's fun! And give some respect, and lower the degree of frustration, both for the girl and the monger.
To take with your 1st World behaviour, since it takes a month according to behavioral science, to change behavior, is a very bad deal, if have prepared well to change attitude, ASAP after picking up your luggage at the airport.
A Gringo means going to a lottery. Getting him into bed is Jackpot! Be nice, flirt, buy some drinks, maybe dinner. And then just go home! Or even better, leave after paying the dinner, with another prepago that you have made an appointment with! Chock-therapy for self-secure, a little high prepagos in Poblado and Parque Lleras. Like when US college team won over Soviet stars 1980 in Lake Placid, or then Sweden turned 0-4 to 4-4 in soccer, with Angela Merkel herself watching.
Selfsecure and selfdeclared winners can loose. But that needs resistance from us Gringos.
Then ther acting skills get them zero, if not a realistic price is negociated beforehand. Like 150 for TLN, which means sleeping 7 hours and having sex one hour, in comparison to 60 hours boring work and transports.
This behavior makes prepagos humble and aware that Gringos are not always Jackpot. And for us who live in Medellin 2-5 months a year. Service personal have yet not got used to treat me as a gringo in Estadio or Laureles, but Poblado I don't even consider going to! Yes, when there a game in Champions League or Euro / World Cup, Grand Slam tennis. A beer from Denmark, Carlsberg is even more expensive in it's own country!
It doesn't demand much to find a power-balance. You say no, save your sexual frustration, which is a positive one, since you know you can get rid of it easily -just go to New Life before 2 pm. and you will find a hottie easily, and for a fraction of the cost. The barrio girl then have to go back to her minimum-wage life. Numbers, are on our side!
I also read about guys paying incredible sums to Top Models. I got one, nylpimp, also know her, Geraldine. She was a model and could have charged me, but charging for sex was just not on her agenda; 18 yo model; she could have made a small fortune. Another model, having been a Xtreme model (similar to Chica's Car Audio, La Mejor Cola de La valle, GM Car Audio) about modelling work, etc. Tells me that "people think we earn tons of money but we do not". " Me and my friend are planning to get a student visa in Europe to work as prepagos there, so to be able to by an apartment and a car". Being a model in Colombia has according to Geraldine 2% chance of commercial success. The rest are simply not needed, more than occasionally. The winning girls get lucrative contracts, the other ones work as Modelo de Protocolo, for wages that are "normal", and certainly not full-time. But it's a good social cover.
Kickboxer has once wrote that he could be "wingman" to a newbie in Medellin to explore the non-pro places. Which shall have incredibly beautiful girls. Discos in Medellin are overrated, Mango is big enough to have a mixed audience. But 9 out of 10 are for teenagers. There shall also be temporal party locals, that rich guys rent for a weekend and invite only +9-10's. For being invited to such a party you need contacts, and a fancy Gringo might be lucky, Colombians with money loves to show off. Such guys, some of the lurkers here find a pub in Poblado, and being very socially, you might come to a party with only divine girls.
Camaro, March / April / May 2013 wrote about he found places inside Cartagena, far away from El Laguito, Boca Grande and it's LDV and alike clubs. Camaros club had a price tag of 100 mil COP.
White Lies. Not only $€£ get the girls attention. Many have a degree these days, quality is therefore low (Murray, Bell Curve, 1995). Having a degree from an European or US quality university make enormous impression, a public prosecutor told me. Dress up, become an actor, as the prepago already are and compete in lying. Have cards that say you have a high status profession. Do a little research and you can handle a discussion. The impression of a Professional Man, is opens up doors to many bedrooms. And families, I. E Free Gold Sex! Only question is; what is such a man doing in Colombia? Why is he not in Miami or Crazy Horse in Paris. Prepare yourself and you get away with it. We are talking about socializing with girls that might rob you, and if you go to the police, she counter with a sexual-abuse accusation.
In Medellin we are in the 3rd world. WE think we are aware and avoid danger, but actually we go right into the Crocodile gap!
These girls have nothing, and they opportunity of nothing!
Medellin; continue the success or a new period of fear for FDI?
I was into, in theory, since trying for a short period in Costa Rica 2011/12.
Real Estate. Not renting out, but attract REIT to invest. There is an article [URL]https://www.caseyresearch.com/articles/attractively-priced-real-estate-courtesy-of-pablo-escobar.[/URL].
The cultural gap between rich English speaking world and poor Spanish / Portuguese world is so deep that it affects F.D.I.. Deeply. China has somewhat managed to manoeuvrer it self out if this, but the country has also 20 times bigger population than Colombia, and some coalition between Latin American countries, exist on paper, but is non-existent in reality.
So pure market size and political and military respect has got China back to the place in the world it should have. (Note; Nixon; The 3rd World War, 1980.) he foresaw both China's extremely fast development and the continuation and Never Ending Story of conflicts in The Middle East.
China's continuing growth, and technological progress is manifested in "The Martian". I'm sceptical. I have a friend that know China well before it opened up. There are many regions, provinces that for various reasons, would be nothing than happy, to become (partly) independent. The Central Government has a hard time keeping the country stable and united.
Sovietunion had 168 internally independent regions. 168!
China and it's development. GNP / capita is at $US14.300, while is smells Soviet 70 years of over-investment in heavy industries. And the obvious lack of intercultural and exchange of knowledge. 50% goes constantly to investments, mostly in industries that will be outdated before they become fully operational.
Colombia. It's on the other hand "el perro de EUU", "the Latin America dog of the US". But it had paid of well. The only country that have constant growth since almost 50 years now in this part of the world. OBS! Without currency manipulation, which have got Argentina into a situation that are hopeless. 3% of FDI goes to Argentina, the rest mostly to Brazil and Mexico.
With Santos realistic politics, there will of course continue to come crisis, but the growth is real. It is not due to narcotics. The Colombians a path, a strategy of co-operation with it's powerful neighbor. Narcotics, according to some, play a big role in this progress, but it's a trick; much money comes into a few hands at the cost of the destruction of good farming land, more internal fugitives than Syria has.
The price is also continuing corruption. 90% of the corruption take place on the Colombian side. But a few high positioned american in command, mislead their naval and land troops, so enough can get trough. A partial legislation of cocaine is the only solution. The drug-war will end, as the cold-war ended. The new business, alreday very profitable and even more sad on a personal and famliy level is the kidnappings.
Criminals will be even more dangerous. Kidnapping level fell from over 10.0000 1970 to under 300 2015. It was much about vendetta.
When cocaine and other drugs, controlled by federal or state drugstores start to sell, 10-20-30 million american persons can feel relief. They can get a little high, and get help with rehab. Just like when on of the worlds history's richest men, Al Capone, suddenly lost all his income source. The brutal narcos in Colombia, Mexico and the US lose all their incomes at once. Spending on the unwinnable war is over.
Commercial kidnapping will follow and places like EAFIT, UPB, Poblado, Parque Lleras will have armed visitors looking for objects. Just like Argentina had it under the 1970 until 1985. With success I must add.
This means that war are coming from the jungle, those with amnesty, but still psychopaths came to Comuna 13. All of Medellin pay tribute to these gangs. Even Exito. This is not babble. I personally know a high level, very serious man, that told me this. Medellin city are trying to get a Peace Treaty with this groups.
They are perfect for the groups that will loose $US XY billions. They control parts of the city. They know every corner of it.
Kidnappings, already commercial, will increase. Paying "multa", protection involve to many persons and and the hard core warriors will stop it. But they will instead, with very few hands to share $USXY billions for a kidnapping. Insurance premiums will multiply, but 90% it also brings back the victims to their families.
As long as Colombia has 42% of the formal incomes in the hands of 10% of the population -violence is choosing between a life long slavery and a quick death or a small, small chance of getting away with the money. Still, it's rational.
15 families owns Colombia. They care about themselves and their internal competition. Colombia is the land they use to exploit. It's the same pattern in Argentina.
In Colombia absolute poverty still are the reality for 20%-25% of the population. The 10% richest 42%, is probably much, much higher since they are experts in hiding assets.
The lowest have 10% of the Colombians have 1% of GNP.
Education and industrial progress have given back Medellin it's position of "Colombias Barcelona". Many can now have a decent life. The only problem is that the people who belongs to the circle of the real middle-class are not allowing them to get fair payment.
EAFIT engineer gets 4 M COP, CENA engineer gets 2 M COP. And can not enter Laureles and still belongs to Estrato 3, not 4, which is a huge difference. The arrogance is striking. Even worse than american arrogance, but that is part of another phenomenon, narcissism. (DSM took it away from the list as a mental illness, since so many american are now so self-obtained that is, according to how DSM define things, a normal state of mind.).
That lead to "brain drain". Argentina has had it since the military regimes and currency manipulations started in the 60's. These people leave, now there is a recession in the world. Not even prepagos make much money in Europe.
Medellin, can get more violent again. 4 a Brigada will have 24/7 of work.
2013 Laureles had 4 murders and it's a huge part of the city, Poblado had o or 1, while the poverty and murders make company in the poorest Comunas.
My excellent teacher in Spanish, Gustavo, has a passion for his work. Since he is stuck in Estrato 3, he can never get a salary or position that is what less talented Estrato 4 people have; EPS (health care is a joke), salary is just above poverty line, he belongs officially to the middle class, but he is trying with all his effort to find a country to find a new life in.
Quebec has made a strategy out of this; they pick up these Estrato 3 engineers, give them a 5 year Visa to begin with; they consider their education to be good, the also finds paisas (or Colombians in general) to be very adoptive when entering a new culture.
FDI, will be the solution. Colombia has a well trained army and can, it hoped peace had come, but new task are ahead of them guarding rich people.
FDI doesn't care about Estrato 3, 4, 5 which Colombians belonging to the higher ones finds disturbing, but the money involved and the competition and need for professional personal can -finally give the chance for persons like Gustavo, to stay in his country and make good money.
Medellin has a real estate crash in ahead if it, if already yet not in full effect. All the way from Medellin to the Airport in Rio Negro is filled with projects. Who can afford it?
Foreigner investers know about the tunnel and all that, but market capitalism is dynamic and is in constant crisis of any kind, but still growing. Colombia, having adopting US policy, will have new type of crisis.
In terms of FDI and kidnappings there is a strong connection. Colombia's army, thinking peace had arrived and showing of to the girls with elegant uniforms and fancy titles, wage races, instead can once again meet the horrors being alone with PDS-disorder.
No way Colombia will accept that again, after having managed to be becoming normalized and the reputation are slowly but constantly betting better, will accept to loose what is under construction.
Medellin is in the center of all this. The city, the metropolis, has a way better position of growth than Bogota, Cali, Cartagena or Barranquilla. Bucaramanga will also grow fast.
But as I stated in the very beginning; bad reputation and the weak understanding from the Rich English speaking world are very sensible to bad news about kidnappings in Colombia. FDI needs to bring personal into Colombia and they can of course spend their time at The Country Club in San Fernando de Pereira, but still, men with small kids are very unlikely to take risks, their families, their wifes would never forgive him, if he takes a desicion to move to Medellin from Bern, and Matthias 5 yo is kidnapped and found dead!
Scandinavia did have none of these problems before. None. Solid. World famous society model. It is falling apart. At least 100.000 muslims enter each year. 1990 we had 3 "ghetto" defined as where 50% of adult population where unemployed. Today we have 150. There muslim sharia laws rules. 50 barrios are run by young muslim gangsters.
US and Colombia have had alliance since decades. Colombia has lost respect among it's people and countries like Ecuador, Venezuela, but it has been worth it.
US & Colombia know that if somewhat limited problems can be held back, all those de luxe houses along the carretera from Medellin to Rio Negro will be filled up.
Instead of building a wall, US must, like it once capitulated against alcohol, do a controlled retread on the drugs. US can become a solid strong investor in Medellin, instead of spending $US billions of tracking down drug trafficking.
Just like Hillary Clinton proudly talks about the success of Plan Colombia, a FDI, a way of using opportunities, the so for poor people desired middle-class life, can be created.
For us, prepago prices might rise, or just supply, since competition will be strong.
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