Jakarta

Dude, this literally made me LOL. You feel shy about talking to immigration because you think they're onto your game? Hate to imagine what you must be like with the hookers, LOL.

Why do you even imagine the immigration officer cares so much about the 200th person of the day's reason for touring the country?

[QUOTE=Scarer;2969967]Genuine Question About Immigration.

I've been to Jakarta three times so far. Once as a 2 day stopover on my way to Bali, and twice exclusively for mongering. Each time, when the immigration officer asked if I was there for business or tourism, I said tourism. Their response was always neutral, but it made me feel a bit awkward.

I admit it doesn't seem like the kind of place where most tourists would spend 10 days, let alone visit 2 or 3 times a year. I've thought about saying I'm visiting places like Yogyakarta or Bali after a few nights in Jakarta, but officers always ask for return flight tickets and hotel bookings. I know it's possible to show refundable bookings to back this up, but is that really necessary? Or am I just overthinking this?

What do you usually say during your visits? Would love to hear your experiences and advice![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Scarer;2969967]Genuine Question About Immigration.

I've been to Jakarta three times so far. Once as a 2 day stopover on my way to Bali, and twice exclusively for mongering. Each time, when the immigration officer asked if I was there for business or tourism, I said tourism. Their response was always neutral, but it made me feel a bit awkward.

I admit it doesn't seem like the kind of place where most tourists would spend 10 days, let alone visit 2 or 3 times a year. I've thought about saying I'm visiting places like Yogyakarta or Bali after a few nights in Jakarta, but officers always ask for return flight tickets and hotel bookings. I know it's possible to show refundable bookings to back this up, but is that really necessary? Or am I just overthinking this?

What do you usually say during your visits? Would love to hear your experiences and advice![/QUOTE]I just go through the automated lanes. Machine doesn't ask me anything at all.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;2969891]Interesting place, but I would certainly not recommend anyone, especially a foreigner, and more especially a WHITE foreigner, ever go to such a place. Why even consider it when you can get whatever kind of girl you want at someplace like Classic for a just a few dollars more.[/QUOTE]I will go there. The thrill is just as fun as the sex.

[QUOTE=Sushruth;2969411]SA is not a country in which brothels, escorts and spas are banned.

It's just an app / website anyone can sign up. So, a girl who works in a brothel can also sign up and there is no subscription charges for girls unlike for men.

So, the girls works in brothel during the day and comes to you as a SA date in the evening or she meeting multiple sugar daddies, one in the morning, one in the after and one in the evening.

So, how do you really know that she does this occasionally? If she is sleeping with you for money what stops her seeing many in a day. She gets old sooner or later, so, she wants make as much as she could while she could.[/QUOTE]Its possible but in my experience that is not the case. I spent last night with a middle manager from the Jakarta branch of an international company who is a graduate of a university in America. I am an American college graduate and it would be impossible for her to bluff me on that. Early in the week I went to classic where the girl I went to the room with told me she was working there because she got screwed out 14 mil and had to pay off her debt. She says her cut from each session is 100,000 rupiah and that she was recruited to Classic from some kampung in Sumatra by a tik-tok ad. I figured something was up because she gave a blow job like she had only just learned what a blow job is from a tik-tok video day before which is almost the actual case. Between the SA woman and the girl from Classic getting 100.000 a session guess which one do you think fucked the shit out of me off and on for 14 hours straight. Well, OK, I will spill the beans. It wasn't the sad case from Classic. Another SA paramour is a middle manager from a Indonesian company that I met for the first time in person at her lunch hour. I dropped her off at her office building after our first getting to know you lunch meeting. She dresses and acts like a sexy librarian with the body of Jessica Rabbit. This one requested I get an STD test after showing me hers "so we won't have to worry about anything when we have bareback anal sex". During the month of road testing SA I have met enough women from there to get a sense of the range. Some have been better than others. But all of them have consistently been much much hotter than any of the woman I have been with at classic and its variants. There are a lot of reasons for why this might be which I will save for the inevitable rebuttal. So far the mix of SA girls I have encountered have mostly been professional woman in their mid to late 20's and a few early 20's University students. From this group the worst SA sex I have encountered is better than best sex I have had at classic, emporium, etc.

For my budget SA is not something I can afford to do as frequently as classic or whatever. But so far the quality from SA is high enough where I will probably partake a least a few times a month. The way I look at it is yes SA ladies are more expensive. But they quality is much much better. There is absolutely no way I could get women this hot or this enthusiastic for the same price back home.

I think your speculation about undercover brothel workers is more likely to be true on tinder, which I also road tested over the summer. Without getting into the "does tinder privilege white dudes" argument I would say at least 2/3 of the woman I met through Tinder at some point asked for money. Some were up front some waited. A number of them were also upfront that their "day jobs" were as "therapists". Most of them were generally less attractive than the ladys from classic.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2969981]I just go through the automated lanes. Machine doesn't ask me anything at all.[/QUOTE]I have an Indian passport. The guards usually guide me through the manned lanes, saying that the automated lanes don't work for my passport. I'm not sure if this is accurate.

[QUOTE=HotDog666;2969980]Dude, this literally made me LOL. You feel shy about talking to immigration because you think they're onto your game? Hate to imagine what you must be like with the hookers, LOL.

Why do you even imagine the immigration officer cares so much about the 200th person of the day's reason for touring the country?[/QUOTE]I've traveled to many places and have never faced any visa rejections so far in my case.

There is a reason for my concern, though which the western folks won't understand. Immigration officers tend to scrutinize certain Asian passport holders traveling solo because some try to migrate illegally for work. I travel there from the UK so it doesn't really matter for me but it makes me a bit nervous and wanted to know how others handle the tourism part in a city with no tourism. I don't want to get delayed at immigration in a country where language is a huge barrier and they dig all the details about my current and previous visits. Maybe I should say it commonly as Vacation instead of tourism like Gabacho suggested.

Thanks anyways for the funny comment about the hookers!

[QUOTE=Scarer;2969967] Each time, when the immigration officer asked if I was there for business or tourism, I said tourism. Their response was always neutral, but it made me feel a bit awkward.[/QUOTE]From the sounds of it this is all in your head. You mentioned the IO was neutral. Neutral means he / she doesn't give a crap why you're entering Indonesia. Vacation is the simplest answer. If and only if he asks what you plan on doing make something up like you're a food vlogger and you like Indonesian cuisine (maybe learn the names of the most popular dishes if you're paranoid). Tons of BS answers you can make up on the spot only if needed.

You mentioned no tourism in Indonesia? Bali is one of the most popular beach cities in the world. The IO doesn't know if you're only in Jakarta for 1 night then leaving for Bali the next morning.

I've never heard of a single person having issues entering Indonesia. It's not Thailand.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2969752][URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhI5noE8FY[/URL]

This is a bunch of little bars with some girls sitting outside waiting for customers to pass by. I am sure there are some more girls inside. Never been here but know where it is. Far away and not so easy to get to. Being a white guy walking to get there everyone will know why I am there which is super awkward and being alone in such a secluded location where anything can happen is a no-no for me. Also, any money saved will be spent on transportation getting there and back to my hotel. I assume most the girls will not be interested in me like the rail road tracks. I assume foreign Asian guys will have a higher success rate but not sure how much better. Maybe next year I will check it out if I get bored and find a wingman for this location.[/QUOTE]A man needs to know a price.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2969988]I will go there. The thrill is just as fun as the sex.[/QUOTE]Be safe, brother!

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This is a bunch of little bars with some girls sitting outside waiting for customers to pass by. I am sure there are some more girls inside. Never been here but know where it is. Far away and not so easy to get to. Being a white guy walking to get there everyone will know why I am there which is super awkward and being alone in such a secluded location where anything can happen is a no-no for me. Also, any money saved will be spent on transportation getting there and back to my hotel. I assume most the girls will not be interested in me like the rail road tracks. I assume foreign Asian guys will have a higher success rate but not sure how much better. Maybe next year I will check it out if I get bored and find a wingman for this location.[/QUOTE]I will go with you I'm in jaiarta and safer as a pair. Be nice smile say Hello, see what happens.

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[QUOTE=Gabacho;2969853]Excelent find brother. I wish I had time to go check it out. It looks like its an hour away in Bekasi Jawa Barat which is a suburb satelite City of Jakarta. I fucked a girl who is from Bekasi who was a friend of my new civvy girl I've been seeing (whom I haven't posted about yet, but not sure if I will due to certain members here).

Anyways looks like exactly the kind of place that I was originally looking for. Kind of like a Botero Plaza of Indonesia if you will. I will most likely check it out on my return trip in May 2025 as I simply don't have the time left to do it during this trip.

Maybe you can check it out in January and report on your findings GG?

-Gabacho.[/QUOTE]I might have been game when I was young but I'm not much of a distance walker nowadays. I'm soon to be 64 with a prosthetic leg, haha.

Plan to focus on the regular non-pro and part-time online girls with occasional trips to Classic and Starmoon.

I may actually be in Jakarta in May / June. We'll see.

I came across this report in Feb, 2024 with details about the Kota Indah community brothel near Chinatown.

[URL]https://www.ufostravel.com/thread-71-1-1.html[/URL]

It's about 3 miles North West of Classic hotel, only 8 minutes rail ride and 11 min car ride:

From Classic, walk North West to the Sawah Besar station and get off at Jayakarta station. Walk 5 minutes North West to the Kota Indah area.

He said 6 houses, 30 girls each after 6 PM, 150 K IDR or $10 a session. All night date is likely $20-30 range.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;2969981]I just go through the automated lanes. Machine doesn't ask me anything at all.[/QUOTE]Airport updates:

There is construction / renovation work in progress in Terminal 2 (Air Asia, Scoot etc).
The automated lanes have been partitioned by a construction barrier in Terminal 2.

A "Service Fee" is now added on top of the Visa-on-Arrival charge.
Based on my Passport, the total price is IDR 500,000 + 13,000 = ~513,000.

~BKK