Jakarta

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2972149]One thing I've noticed at Classic,[/QUOTE]Another thing I noticed about Classic Terminal 2 is that IMO, many girls do not know how to put on make-up. Some put that red shit on their cheeks and nose; way too much sometimes. Some of the girls put a lot on their eyelids. That style turns me off.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2972156]On one occasion I took her to the Grand Indonesia Mall and we ate at Taco Bell together[/QUOTE]My favorite area to eat at. Although I've never tried the Taco Bell there. LOL! The Grand Indonesia Mall is an upscale multi-wing mall, with many many good moderate to pricey (for Indonesia) places to eat at. Very affordable if you are on a Western budget.

The main problem is that the traffic around that mall is horrible (worst than other places). Many cars coming and going to that mall.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2972156]
This led me to getting several more ladies from her and then exchanging WhatsApp numbers with them as well. Somewhere along the line I ran into a very friendly 20 year old who wanted to be like a girlfriend. Not only did she provide me with her friends who only charged me 200 k for bbfscip, but we would often go out to lunch (just the GF and I). This led to me repeating with her. She is a very nice girl, Javanese, darker brown skin, slim petite body, perky tits, cute face. She refers to me as Mister and I even learned some more bahasa words from my time with her on these dates (for example using aku instead of Saya, while Google uses Saya I think it's like too formal and she always uses aku).
[/QUOTE]This sounds amazing. You are truly living the dream! I've got to go to Jakarta and see if I can make this happen too.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2972201]Another thing I noticed about Classic Terminal 2 is that IMO, many girls do not know how to put on make-up. Some put that red shit on their cheeks and nose; way too much sometimes. Some of the girls put a lot on their eyelids. That style turns me off.

My favorite area to eat at. Although I've never tried the Taco Bell there. LOL! The Grand Indonesia Mall is an upscale multi-wing mall, with many many good moderate to pricey (for Indonesia) places to eat at. Very affordable if you are on a Western budget.

The main problem is that the traffic around that mall is horrible (worst than other places). Many cars coming and going to that mall.[/QUOTE]True, my favourite is the Nasi Padang at the food court which often has a small queue. Spicy chicken with sambal crisps with rice, very tasty.

Anyway a question for you bros. My flight from Bangkok will arrive in Jakarta at 5 am, where's a good place where I can hang out? Does the airport train even run this early? I would loathe to book an extra night at a hotel just to checkin early but it is a good few hours to kill on probably not much cheap. Any reasonably-priced lounges? Thanks all.

Hello brothers, I will be visiting Jakarta for 3 days (22-25 Jan) . I must thanks for all gentlemen here for great information which is helpful to plan the trip.

I will try to explore as such as possible pointers here with these days however please do suggest or dm me if any suggestion to pick girl to hotel.

Thanks again and happy new year all.

[QUOTE=MrMiyaG;2972250]Wow that is just mind blowing stats, I did enjoy reading your reports hats off to you sir.

One thing I wonder or worries me since you love bareback and assume you did most of the girls.

Do the preps really work that good I know you mentioned Doxy in your previous reports. With only that can you be this "reckless" and don't worry about catching a thing?

And are you going to test yourself after a couple of weeks for more than only STD?

I would really like to hear about this and it could also be a lesson for all of us who like the BB also.[/QUOTE]Although unrelated to STDs / HIV I should probably also mention that I have had a vasectomy since 2008 as well. So no one got impregnated from me. I'm actually trying to be as responsible as possible in every possible aspect except for the use of a condom. My logic behind that is simple: the condom takes away too much from the pleasure and when weighing the pros and cons of the risk versus reward, for me personally, I felt that the lack of pleasure from using a condom was more of a con than the risks involved of not using one. Especially nowadays with all the advancements in modern medicine that are available to us, condoms in my opinion are becoming obsolete.

Whether or not the pleasure outweighs the risks is a personal choice that each person needs to make for himself and if you decide it's not worth it and would rather use a rubber, then by all means use one. It's your dick and your money and no one should be bashing anyone else about whether or not they decided to use a condom.

-Gabacho.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2972141]
IMO, this is a great place to come with your friends, and drink and play pool with your friends, and be surrounded with girls that drink with you that you or your friend can take to the room for an hour. And all this for very cheap (Western price point).

Most of the customers seem to be locals; maybe East Asians; but assuming a lot of the rich locals look like East Asian since many of them are Chinese or have Chinese blood in them.

BBBJ is on the menu. Rimming and CIM are not on the normal menu. But many will do it for an additional tip (Maybe less than half; I think I had a statistical quirk at the beginning, where many said yes). Only a few didn't ask for an extra tip. Many will do it for an additional 100 K (200 K total); actually, most will say no initially; and then you have to offer the additional tip. One asked for 200 K additional (300 K total). Another asked for 500 K. I've never tried just offering 100 K for everything at the beginning. Maybe try that if you want to save money.
[/QUOTE]Good summary. I suspect what helps keep the prices good is indeed that we are fishing in the same pool as the locals, unlike e.g. Thailand. Once that changes I suspect it will be goodbye Jakarta for many of us.

After my first trip I asked whether I was overtipping or not, without getting any clear answers here, but on my second trip I think I've got a better understanding of things as far as Classic and similar lower priced places are concerned. Others here have visited many more times than me and may provide corrections, but I think the following guidelines are ok based on the responses I received from the girls.
Should put you in the "ok guy" category at Classic. Neither notably overpaying nor underpaying, which is where I aim to be.

- Nothing special, no tip. I never had this happen I think. Even the one girl who insisted on condom did something else to receive an extra tip. Also, while I now prefer BBFS, for most of my life I always used condoms outside ongoing relationships, after std testing for us both together, so I'm trying to not feel negative towards a girl who wants to be more careful about her health with a stranger she has no idea of whether even has HIV or not.

- BBFS: 100 k.

- BBFS threesome: 200 k each, provided they don't make any drama about having to wipe my dick when alternating girls. If they do, just the regular 100 k BBFS tip. 100 k would probably be accepted too here (I gave this my first time), but may put you in the somewhat cheapskate category, so later on I settled on 200 k as my standard price for this, for shooting twice, once in each girl. If only shooting once, I think 150 k each is acceptable.

- Anal: 200 k.

- Rimming: I guess an extra 100 k (on top of the BBFS tip). Only one girl did that, more or less by herself, and I did not try to force anyone else to do that. Since she was same that I fucked in the ass, I already tipped her 200 k for that.

- CIM. If she pulls away as soon as I start shooting, nothing extra. If she lets me empty myself in her mouth without rushing: 100k (the girl who insisted on condom did this).

Most girls did not ask me beforehand for a tip, but this is what I gave them afterwards. A few asked beforehand if I would tip them. Usually I just answered yes, and that was it, but if they asked how much (only one pair did that I think), I said the same numbers as I listed. One pair (the threesome pair) blurted out some crazy number, but accepted the numbers I listed after I refused their own suggestions.

[QUOTE=Sychip1;2972273]True, my favourite is the Nasi Padang at the food court which often has a small queue. Spicy chicken with sambal crisps with rice, very tasty.

Anyway a question for you bros. My flight from Bangkok will arrive in Jakarta at 5 am, where's a good place where I can hang out? Does the airport train even run this early? I would loathe to book an extra night at a hotel just to checkin early but it is a good few hours to kill on probably not much cheap. Any reasonably-priced lounges? Thanks all.[/QUOTE]If your hotel has a pool, it will probably be opening up around the time you arrive, so if you want to save money, might go for a swim and then nap on the sunbeds by the pool for some hours. In-house massage may also be an option, though usually expensive.

The lounge at Jakarta airport was pretty crap, so I wouldn't pay any money to spend time there, if it's even possible to get in there when arriving.

Some hotels also have a half-day/early check-in rate. Email them and ask.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2972156]I was in Jakarta for a grand total of 55 days and fucked a total of 92 women. Here is a breakdown of where I sourced them from:

Classic - 52.

Travel - 3.

Lokasari / Mangga Besar - 10.

Civies / Friends of Friends - 27.

I started out staying on mangga besar back in early November at the sparks life hotel and sourcing from Lokasari, after about 5 days I moved into a more affordable airbnb in the Pasar Baru area and started going to Classic..[/QUOTE]Thanks for all your valuable intel. It looks pretty certain that I'll also be in Jakarta in May. Do let us know if you end up making the trip, perhaps we could collaborate on some practices and procedures then.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2972310]Good summary. I suspect what helps keep the prices good is indeed that we are fishing in the same pool as the locals, unlike e.g. Thailand. Once that changes I suspect it will be goodbye Jakarta for many of us.

After my first trip I asked whether I was overtipping or not, without getting any clear answers here, but on my second trip I think I've got a better understanding of things as far as Classic and similar lower priced places are concerned. Others here have visited many more times than me and may provide corrections, but I think the following guidelines are ok based on the responses I received from the girls.
Should put you in the "ok guy" category at Classic. Neither notably overpaying nor underpaying, which is where I aim to be.

- Nothing special, no tip. I never had this happen I think. Even the one girl who insisted on condom did something else to receive an extra tip. Also, while I now prefer BBFS, for most of my life I always used condoms outside ongoing relationships, after std testing for us both together, so I'm trying to not feel negative towards a girl who wants to be more careful about her health with a stranger she has no idea of whether even has HIV or not.

- BBFS: 100 k.

- BBFS threesome: 200 k each, provided they don't make any drama about having to wipe my dick when alternating girls. If they do, just the regular 100 k BBFS tip. 100 k would probably be accepted too here (I gave this my first time), but may put you in the somewhat cheapskate category, so later on I settled on 200 k as my standard price for this, for shooting twice, once in each girl. If only shooting once, I think 150 k each is acceptable.

- Anal: 200 k.

- Rimming: I guess an extra 100 k (on top of the BBFS tip). Only one girl did that, more or less by herself, and I did not try to force anyone else to do that. Since she was same that I fucked in the ass, I already tipped her 200 k for that.

- CIM. If she pulls away as soon as I start shooting, nothing extra. If she lets me empty myself in her mouth without rushing: 100k (the girl who insisted on condom did this).

Most girls did not ask me beforehand for a tip, but this is what I gave them afterwards. A few asked beforehand if I would tip them. Usually I just answered yes, and that was it, but if they asked how much (only one pair did that I think), I said the same numbers as I listed. One pair (the threesome pair) blurted out some crazy number, but accepted the numbers I listed after I refused their own suggestions.[/QUOTE]I prefer to be more generous. I don't think a girl should be forced to provide risky services like BBFS in order to earn a normal tip. 100 K is like 6 USD. Less than a coffee. If a girl provides decent normal service with good attitude, I'm happy to pay 100 K. 200 K for BBFS. This doesn't change if its single girl or threesome. Sometimes if I'm not in the mood to bargain, Ill even pay 300 K tip. I've paid even more in places like Emporium for BBFS. I don't believe this will spoil the market. What will is white mongers telling girls they will pull out and then coming inside them. Or DEMANDING BBFS or not tipping. This is what will make White foreigners unwelcome and have more and more girls turn you down. But I don't expect to change the behavior of anyone else and nobody can change mine. As they say My Dick My Money.

[QUOTE=MrMiyaG;2972250]Wow that is just mind blowing stats, I did enjoy reading your reports hats off to you sir.

One thing I wonder or worries me since you love bareback and assume you did most of the girls.

Do the preps really work that good I know you mentioned Doxy in your previous reports. With only that can you be this "reckless" and don't worry about catching a thing?
[/QUOTE]Yeah, talk about blowing a place up. Good thing most of it was contained within Classic where the girls are kept cleaner, but with those numbers you have to have seen a thing or two rather unpleasant. Never saw syphilis with my own eyes until that area. That was rather unexpected considering the person. Skin tags and skin discoloration are common, with chlamyd almost gauranteed. I think it's due to the water being contaminated.

Also not sure why you would give 200 k to each for a threesome instead of 100 k. Just because? Those are sort of overrated anyway.

I wanted to thank you guys for all the valuable information and inspiration I gathered from this forum. I will arrive in Jakarta tomorrow and I feel really well prepared.

I will spend one month in Indonesia starting with 10 days in Jakarta. After that I'm not really sure. If I'll find a girl, that is really fun to be with I might invite her to a trip to one of the islands for a few days. If not, I'm sure I will have more than enough fun in all the great places in Jakarta you guys have been writing about.

If somebody is in Jakarta now and wants to hang out, send me a DM. I'll pay the first round.

I'm scheduled to be there for the full month of April, 2025. Thinking of renting a scooter for the month rather than paying for 4-6 Grab Rides a day. I saw some rental shops in the area with a monthly rate of 1,300.000 IDR, including a helmet. Seems like a good deal and I will be getting an International Driver's Permit from AAA in the US (cost $20 US). Note I'm not too worried about the cost of grab rides. I have budget for that. I'm thinking a scooter will be valuable in getting around shitty traffic.

Any thoughts on this?

I am aware of the "scooter scams" from less than reputable renters that claim damage to the bike upon return. I think I know how to mitigate this; find a reputable dealer, take full video of the bike with the rental agent on camera before signing the contract, and ensure secure overnight parking (staying at Movenpick Hotel).

But any suggestion on this will be appreciated:

Good idea or bad?

Tips to ensure all goes well?

Things to avoid?

Better off with Grab?

BTW: I am not a long-distance walker (even moderate-distance). I have bad knees and can't easily walk more than a few blocks with ease.

Finally, if you have a recommendation for a preferred vendor, please share.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2972503]I'm scheduled to be there for the full month of April, 2025. Thinking of renting a scooter for the month rather than paying for 4-6 Grab Rides a day. I saw some rental shops in the area with a monthly rate of 1,300.000 IDR, including a helmet. Seems like a good deal and I will be getting an International Driver's Permit from AAA in the US (cost $20 US). Note I'm not too worried about the cost of grab rides. I have budget for that. I'm thinking a scooter will be valuable in getting around shitty traffic.

Any thoughts on this?

I am aware of the "scooter scams" from less than reputable renters that claim damage to the bike upon return. I think I know how to mitigate this; find a reputable dealer, take full video of the bike with the rental agent on camera before signing the contract, and ensure secure overnight parking (staying at Movenpick Hotel).

But any suggestion on this will be appreciated:

Good idea or bad?

Tips to ensure all goes well?

Things to avoid?

Better off with Grab?

BTW: I am not a long-distance walker (even moderate-distance). I have bad knees and can't easily walk more than a few blocks with ease.

Finally, if you have a recommendation for a preferred vendor, please share.

Thanks![/QUOTE]I think it's a bad idea. I've ridden bikes and driven cars all over Thailand, where traffic was, and somewhat still is, similar to Indonesia, but even if you're an experienced rider (are you?) it will take some weeks to get used to the very different style of driving and traffic patterns that you will find here, compared to the west. Until then you will be confusing all the locals with your crazy western driving, greatly increasing the risk of an accident, even if you are the one "driving by the rules".

I'm not sure about about Indonesia, but I'll assume it will be somewhat similar to Thailand also in that you as a tourist will by default be the party at fault, which could lead to all sorts of nightmares when someone and their two kids crashes into you.

Back then there was no grab or uber, so I was kind of forced to get a bike eventually, or things would just take too damn long, and become too expensive for me also. Today, for just a months stay, I'd be using Grab, or the presumably somewhat cheaper local alternative (gojek?) all day. Grab-bikes in Thailand, as of rather recently, now mostly seem to carry with them an extra helmet (with all the quality of an old plastic bucket), so I no longer bother to bring my own for each ride, but not sure about Indonesia.

[QUOTE=MrHappyKat;2972503]I'm scheduled to be there for the full month of April, 2025. Thinking of renting a scooter for the month rather than paying for 4-6 Grab Rides a day. I saw some rental shops in the area with a monthly rate of 1,300.000 IDR, including a helmet. Seems like a good deal and I will be getting an International Driver's Permit from AAA in the US (cost $20 US). Note I'm not too worried about the cost of grab rides. I have budget for that. I'm thinking a scooter will be valuable in getting around shitty traffic.

Any thoughts on this?

I am aware of the "scooter scams" from less than reputable renters that claim damage to the bike upon return. I think I know how to mitigate this; find a reputable dealer, take full video of the bike with the rental agent on camera before signing the contract, and ensure secure overnight parking (staying at Movenpick Hotel).

But any suggestion on this will be appreciated:[/QUOTE]Bad Bad idea. Lots of risk with little to no upside. Crazy traffic, construction and roadworks everywhere. If you get into an accident you are at a huge disadvantage as a foreigner. Grab is cheap. If you stay at Movenpick a grab to Classic is only like 2 bucks or you can walk. Max I have paid to go to SCBD is maybe 100 K ($6) and you may not do that most days. You will save peanuts (if anything at all) and take on a lot of risks. Clearly not worth it in my opinion. Plus this is your first time in the city you don't even know your way around. Looking at your phone and riding is a sure recipe for disaster. Grabs are very easy to get and cheap.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2970420]If you want to be that specific than it is 350,000 until 8:00 pm and then it is 400,000.

Not sure but.

Royal VIP across from MEGA I believe is 450,000.

Before Mega are 2 small bars across from each other that are 350,000 or 400,000 depending on your negotiation skills or if they need business. I went to one and got the 350,000 price around 5:00 pm but it could be an early price, a slow day price, or when they asked 400 I said 350. But can not remember. I do remember though that bar had the worst rooms in the Kota Indah complex. That was months ago.[/QUOTE]That doesn't sound right. MEGA AYU is on the otherside of the horseshoe from Starmoon. If I remember right, there's nothing else in that short alley on that side. MEGA's girls are 750 k+ and I didn't notice a visible difference. I didn't partake to know if there was a difference in service level.