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[QUOTE=Borat69]I'd love to know if there are ATMs that don't take 150baht every time you withdraw!![/QUOTE]Yeah wtf! In Pattaya the Government Savings Bank (at Tukcom) didn't charge. But I'm charged at every single ATM in Phuket.
As for the money comparison, jetski rental in Patong seems to be about 1000 for 30 min, but in Jomtien it was 700 baht. Laundry prices I understand because it's touristy. But what the girls want is sometimes shocking because I think you hit it dead on by saying MQ.
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I just signed up for diving course, paid around 15k baht for 3 day open water with Scuba Cat Divers. Also I know perhaps this topic isn't mongering related but I guess plenty of us in Phuket like me don't come here solely for mongering :) I would love to hear from other divers on recommendations for live a board trips. Thinking to do Similan for 3-4 days, and maybe around Krabi (Ko Lanta etc). I have a couple more weeks so want to make the most of it.
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I did a 4 day live-a-board in the Similans in 2003, and had some excellent dives. But I would recommend you do it at the end of your trip to gain some more experience first, in order utilize the live-a-board trip better. Some dives out there can be demanding on a beginner. Also check if they require an Advanced Open Water first. I have not dived at Ko Lanta yet, but it's on my list. I had some good dives at Phi Phi in 2006. Around Krabi, like Ao Nang and Rai Lay an honest dive operator told me the visibility is quite poor.
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BKK girls 1.5k-2k HQ
Phuket girls 2.5k-3k MQ
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Last time I was in Phuket in April bar girls were happy with 2k LT. My friend pulled a FL from one of the discos who happily accepted 1.5k the day after. Think this would be a bit harder in BKK. But, when it comes to price of pussy Pattaya rules.
[QUOTE=Tim Bone]I did a 4 day live-a-board in the Similans in 2003, and had some excellent dives. But I would recommend you do it at the end of your trip to gain some more experience first, in order utilize the live-a-board trip better. Some dives out there can be demanding on a beginner. Also check if they require an Advanced Open Water first. I have not dived at Ko Lanta yet, but it's on my list. I had some good dives at Phi Phi in 2006. Around Krabi, like Ao Nang and Rai Lay an honest dive operator told me the visibility is quite poor.
Last time I was in Phuket in April bar girls were happy with 2k LT. My friend pulled a FL from one of the discos who happily accepted 1. 5k the day after. Think this would be a bit harder in BKK. But, when it comes to price of pussy Pattaya rules. [/quote]
Check out Eden Divers in Patong. I had a fantastic 4 day live abord dive trip with them. Very good boat and crew.
As a beginner you should know that the current can be strong sometimes under water.
[quote=tim bone]...i have not dived at ko lanta yet, but it's on my list. i had some good dives at phi phi in 2006....[/quote]there's some good diving to be had from koh lanta, but the dive locations are a ways away by boat. and, it's mostly the same spots you would go to from koh phi phi, just a longer boat ride. on koh lanta, there's at least one dive service that operates using speed boats to cut the travel time down, but they are more expensive.
i thought the diving there was ok, the water a little cloudy, but there were way too many people from multiple operators all diving in the same locations.
> pics from diving at koh ha in nov. 2008.
In the spirit of ISG discussion I thought I'd chime in regarding our friend Borat's report. I went to Phuket/Patong three times this year in the dry season and I'll add a bit here. Granted, I'm an old guy and not a hound dog monger, but I managed to have fun in Patong.
[QUOTE=Borat69]Just a quick report on Phuket thus far...[/QUOTE]Interesting, and this is the short report?
[QUOTE=Borat69]Then again I don't like ladyboys with feminization surgery, which there is plenty of. I suppose there's a market responsible for the supply...[/QUOTE] Supply and demand. Patong is one of the ladyboy capitals of Thailand! Lots of guys go there just for the pretty [i]katoeys.[/i]
[QUOTE=Borat69]I can't compare to Pattaya because I didn't go (and regret not going while I was in BKK). Especially after seeing the slim pickings here.[/QUOTE]Pattaya has [i]a lot more girls,[/i] but older and poorer in appearance. I happen to like older, pretty Thai women...less drama (sometimes).
[QUOTE=Borat69]Phuket also gives the impression that it can be a rough place. A bunch of white guys I've seen so far look like they've had their faces smashed in...[/QUOTE]People who get their faces smashed up in Thailand go looking for it. But, that could happen anywhere with enough alcohol and disrespectful behavior. In places like Mexico and Colombia, the bad boys would just shoot you, cut your head off, and roll it down the beach. [i]Thailand is a lot friendlier![/i]
[QUOTE=Borat69]Walked by a massage place. Cute girl there, asked her price she quoted 2k for ST but said I had to pay the massage place separately, 500 was her price. [/QUOTE]Way too much. The massage shops are great for the first shag of the day (after coffee and before noon). FS should be maybe 800-1000 baht max. There's plenty of these shops and some cute girls in them. Best to spend a morning walking around and checking out the merchandise, then go back the next day.
[QUOTE=Borat69]So today we decide to try working the freebies. There were alot of somewhat attractive young white girls we spotted. [/QUOTE] Total waste of time. They're mostly a stuck-up unfriendly bunch with bad attitudes.
[QUOTE=Borat69]I could pay and fuck a 7/8 chick but I'm a bit spoiled by quality I've witnessed in BKK.[/QUOTE]Witnessed in BKK? You had all 9 & 10s? A Patong 7/8 might prove to be very good in the sack and the best you will find (without a good connection).
[QUOTE=Borat69]II must say the scene here is a bit disappointing. THe pattern I noticed is that alot of people hassle tourists so they naturaly shut off. Especially the girls.[/QUOTE]The little bit of "hassle" people get in Thailand is nothing compared to places like India or China. A successful tourist in Thailand just rolls with it, says "no thank you" in Thai and moves along. For some reason, places like Patong seem to attract very passive tourists and many that do not speak English. I think Thais see this as an opportunity, albeit confusing, but they just work it as hard as they can. After all, it's all about making a few baht!
[QUOTE=Borat69]...little snippets like that really have shocked me a bit. It's a totally different scene to BKK. Totally different ball game.[/QUOTE]And why wouldn't it be? It exists almost exclusively for foreign package tourists and partying mongers. BKK is a real city with real people (at least some of them)!
[QUOTE=Borat69]Anyway I'd love for more juice on Phuket Town or more reliable places with young girls that look 9/10. For that, I don't mind paying 2k/3k.[/QUOTE]You won't find them in Phuket Town unless you have a Thai friend who will take you to them. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Way too much. The massage shops are great for the first shag of the day (after coffee and before noon). FS should be maybe 800-1000 baht max. There's plenty of these shops and some cute girls in them. Best to spend a morning walking around and checking out the merchandise, then go back the next day.[/QUOTE]Is this 800-1000 + massage fee? They always try to get the massage fee out of people (250-300)
Here's an update of some mongering / meeting girls over last couple of days since my last report. I've now had a bit more exposure to the pros and tourist girls so get a bit of a better vibe of what goes on.
I also post this as a warning as I've just had my first expensive lesson in Thailand.
So this report includes:
-Getting scammed by a ladyboy (!)
-Club girl freelancer from Isaan
-Massage girl on Beach Road
-Time wasted with Aussie/Russian tourists
[b] Getting Scammed by Ladyboy [/b]
I never thought I'd see the day happen as I consider myself a pretty saavy mongerer. But it did. I suppose I could've just been a total fool, maybe due to a surge in testosterone, or just because I was rushing.
Anyway here's the story.
The other night I decided to go and explore Bangla to get some bangy bangy. My friend was a bit tired so I went out myself. Didn't see much talent but it was still a bit early, and I couldn't stay out late as I had an appointment the next morning at 8.
I was walking through one of the go go side lanes near Tiger when I saw what I thought was a particularly attractive girl dancing on stage. She looked like a girl to me anyway, at least compared to the 100s of other ladyboys around Bangla that to me were pretty obvious.
Anyway I walked up, asked the price, and I was told 1.5k for ST. I asked if she was 100% lady, she said yes. She had a female voice, and I checked for adam's apple, scars, dick, etc. None were to be found. The only giveaway should have been that while she was shorter than me, she was somewhat tall. But in the moment I figured there are girls who are tall too.
I was quoted Bar fine = 500, hotel = 600. If she was 100% lady that to me was doable as she really was the 'hottest thing' I saw up to that point.
So I said let's go. Paid the bar 2k. We walked to the hotel. It was only about 1 minute away. I must say during this time my instinct did kick in, mainly about the height. There was really no other clue I could pick up but my gut says something wasn't right and I should've walked.
OInstead I asked once more whether she is 100% lady and not a lady boy. She said yes she is not a ladyboy, 100% lady. I guess I was stupid to actually believe what some fag who would have his cock chopped off would say.
We get to the hotel, I paid 600b for the room. As soon as I got to the hotel room I noticed something weird. She/he ust stood there, waiting for me to make a move. It was in that moment that I realised something wasn't right.
She tried to offer me a BJ but I said let me see your pussy first. She hesitated. So I quickly asked again, are you a ladyboy. Now she/he looks at me and hesitates, and now she tells me 'I am 100% lady NOW'. I asked if she/he got a pussy. I can't even believe I was asking that shit. I wasn't going to go through with the little fucking lying katoey. Now she/he offers to blow me instead of fucking because she/he said surgery only took place 4 months ago so scars are healing.
I thought 'fuck... I can't fucking believe this'. By this point I've already forked out 2.6kB so immediately my thought was how I can get my money back.
So I told her/him to stop wasting my time. Called her/him out on the lie. I told her/him that the bar can keep the bar fine and just give me my 1.5k back.
But she/he refused. Said if I want my money back she/he will have to call 'dad' to come and I can ask. I was going to say yes as I assume 'dad' just meant manager. Well she/he said some shit about how 'dad' is a police officer and will want my passport. For one I didn't have my passport on me as I rented a motorbike, but why the fuck would I want to give some katoey's dad my fucking passport? What a joke. Secondly I figured if that call ever went through, I would probably be missing a leg right now.
Anyway in a moment of disgust, I just walked right out and shoved my hands in her/his face and said 'you just keep the money, i am leaving'. Maybe I could've got a fucking blow job out of it but you know what, I would not be able to live with the fact that I knowingly had a BJ from a ladyboy. I guess some people can, but it's just a personal thing I guess.
I walked out feeling stupid at getting fucked over this. But I think I would feel alot worse if I had gone through with it in any form, so there was definitely a sense of relief that I didn't. Still sucks to lose 2.6k B over it.
So I suppose this whole story is just to tell you to beware. Frankly I still can't believe this happened as I consider myself pretty cautious. I probably should have left sooner within 1 minute of going to the room, as maybe at least the hotel would have refunded part of my 600b. I should've also gone back to the bar, but part of me feared that I could end up getting physically assaulted as I hear this shit happens.
[b] Issan freelance girl [/b]
At this point I was no longer really in the mood for poon-tang. So instead I started walking back as it was getting late and I didn't see much. But on my way I saw a rather attractive lady walking down the street. I stopped her and started speaking to her. Her name was On and she was on her way to Hollywood. Worked as a freelancer.
This girl was pretty petite and slightly dark, and I usually go for lighter skinned chicks but she had such a great little lithe body and great legs and I wanted to pop pretty badly, so I thought why not.
I asked her ST rate and she said it was 1.5k but it was only for 2 hours. I got 2 pops though. That worked well for me as I needed to get sleep soon anyway. So I agreed and we got on my bike and got back to the hotel.
Anyway it turned out fantastic. Great view pounding that ass, and she gave a slick BBBJ and 2 rounds I completed in under an hour. No CIM as she was a bit of a hygiene freak but I liked that. She didn't clock watch either and had a great time. Didn't really 'make up' for the incident with the lady boy, but certainly made me feel better!
[b] Massage girl on Beach Road [/b]
The next evening I walked down beach road near Bangla (towards ClubLime, away from Banana). There were 2 massage shops on the left, with girls standing right outside. I saw one girl that was somewhat attractive so I asked the prices. They wanted 1k for HJ + 350 for 1 hour.
I managed to get this down to 750 all inclusive. The girl who I was speaking to tried to pawn me off but when I made it clear it's her or I walk, she said ok. She said something about managing 2 stores, so I guess there's a chance she's the front girl who usually lures customers in and pawns them off.
But as I walked into the massage place, I saw another girl coming down the stairs. She was even more attractive and I was drawn to her more, so I told the star girl to fuck off and went with this one instead.
What started as a shitty massage with her turned into a nice flip around and a pretty happy ending. She woudln't take off her kit but I just shoved my perverted hands down her panties and grabbed her ass and fondled her until I popped. It was actually very satisfying and I would repeat again .Gave me her number, but wants 2.5k for sex, even though I guess that's an LT price. I am not sure if I'd go with it though.
[b] Aussie girls / Russian girls [/b]
Satisfied, we walked around Bangla again. We decided to sit at one of the few Aussie bars near MacDonalds to sit and watch the sights. Found a decent spot that served free BBQ food if you order a beer. The waitress there initially was so nice cutting our meat for us and all that I said hey let's give her a tip. But then a few minutes later she comes over and says 'will you buy me a drink?' That shit totally turned us off.
Sitting at the bar I spotted 2 gorgeous blonde girls walking down the street. One in particular caught my eye. So I told the waitress if you go over there and get her over here, you get a tip. She didn't, and instead she sticks a fork in our food and eats a piece of our sausage. She asked if we wanted the rest. We were disgusted and said no. So guess what, she takes our plate and gives it to the guy at the next table.
Shit like this, I can see how this whole place just tears into tourists who actually want to reward people, but with their expectations of getting alot in return for little from tourists, I am not surprised by some of the shocking attitudes I've seen from tourists in the first couple of days.
But a few minutes later the 2 pretty tourist girls started walking back. I get eye contact and smile, and the girl I'm interested in catches my eye contact and doesn't break, and smiles back with the most gorgeous smile I've seen since I've been here.
So I gesture them over. She walked past and gave me eye contact again and smiled. While they ordered drinks at the bar I spoke to them and they joined us. We ended up talking for ages, had alot of laughs, and a pretty good time. We ended up spending a good few hours with them bar hopping and conversation started to get a bit heated with lots of touching and fondling.
Unfortunately I don't think my mate was doing so well with the other. Just after mine gave me her number, and we started talking about her coming back to mine, her friend grabs her, and they leave.
So thinking how much time I've wasted now, we walked out of this bar and bumped into 2 Russian chicks we met a couple of days ago. They got excited and wanted us to go watch a 'fuck show' with them.
We didn't know any and instead had touts try to take us to a bunch of shitty clubs promising ping pong shows and all that shit. Some must have thought we were total dumbasses as tehy tried to get us to buy drinks and promised the show would begin.
If I didn't worry about getting stabbed in the face, I would've told them to go shove a ping pong up their own asses. I just walked as I needed another early night (due to diving). My friend stayed with the 2 russians and had made out with one but didn't get close to fucking. Sucks, but we still got a little yet to go, that if I keep up with it I suppose it's just a number's game...
I must say, here in Phuket the freebie scene is a bit more challenging. I do stick to the very pretty girls and I don't say this to brag but to point out that I think there are so many distractions. I don't look like a Ford model, and I'm competing with a large number of decent looking guys for the best hot foreign freebies. Unlike BKK/Pattaya where the guys are distracted by the large number of options, I think here it's a slight reversal.
Then I suppose I have only been trying on Bangla. Maybe in the day once I have a bit more time the beaches is where I should be doing the chatting up.
But frankly I'm getting tired of it and think I'm just going to focus on the diving aspect around here.
[QUOTE=Borat69]For one I didn't have my passport on me as I rented a motorbike,[/QUOTE]Are there any places you can rent a motor bike in phuket without giving your passport?
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Thanks for your report
I never pay the girl up front.
Did you give the girls fee to the bar if I was asked to do that then I would have walked.
[QUOTE=The Scout]Is this 800-1000 + massage fee? They always try to get the massage fee out of people (250-300)[/QUOTE]Yes, you still have to pay the shop for the massage. Think of it as a ST bar fine. Besides, you just might get a halfway decent massage for it.
Usually, (at the opportune moment of arousal), massage girls will always ask for the moon when they coo in your ear, "Do you want special?"
To get them to come down to earth, I just say, "How much?...Oh, too much!..I think I only want a massage." This will usually start things toward a realistic price. Unfortunately, there's often a fine line between negotiating a fair price, and killing the mood (i.e, a wilted willy). Likewise, there should be little expectation of a GFE in these places.
Thanks Fon Tok, and the 'barfine' is a good way to look at it.
Hi Borat,
I live on Phuket and know all the scenes there. I have lived in BKK before. About the girls. You can really find the same quality in patong.
If you like russians (like I do, I used to have a few Russian girlfriends.
I think you have much better results when you approach them on other occasions than night time. Le meridien resort (between patong and karon) is usually full of russians. But as you might know many russians are quite racist so if you are part asian (darker skinner) hat might not be an advantage.
I never waste time anymore with w. Europeans. They in general do not have the beauty nor the attitude.
With thai girls. Stop looking for the paid ones. Go for the nice waitresses, shop girls etc but outside of patong with too many drunk high on testeron guys. Act like the "cool guy just having a nice holiday". Be polite (very important here) and friendly. And do not be the usual tourist "give me a coke and your phone number" please. You will be surprised at the results, believe me.
[QUOTE=Fslag338]Hi borat,
I live on phuket and know all the scenes there. I have lived in BKK before. About the girls. You can really find the same quality in patong.
If you like russians (like I do, I used to have a few Russian girlfriends:.)
I think you have much better results when you approach them on other occasions than night time. Le meridien resort (between patong and karon) is usually full of russians. But as you might know many russians are quite racist so if you are part asian (darker skinner) hat might not be an advantage.
I never waste time anymore with w. Europeans. They in general do not have the beauty nor the attitude.
With thai girls. Stop looking for the paid ones. Go for the nice waitresses, shop girls etc but outside of patong with too many drunk high on testeron guys. Act like the "cool guy just having a nice holiday". Be polite (very important here) and friendly. And do not be the usual tourist "give me a coke and your phone number" please. You will be surprised at the results, believe me.[/QUOTE]Any other tips for finding Russian girls? (or eastern european in phuket). I am in patong beach for 2 weeks from the 22nd December. Also does anyone know off new years eve events (fire works, party's etc) anywhere in Phulet?
[QUOTE=Panya]I have been to Phuket about 4 times in the past 1 1/2 years, twice with my family during which there wasn't any opportunity to look for any action.
However, I just came back last night from a golf/monger trip, and here's the report.
DAY 1 : Arrived in the morning from Bangkok, and proceeded straight to Phuket Country Club for one round. It was an absolute disaster as we were totally rained out after just 4 holes. After waiting for quite a bit, the rain seemed to dissipate, so we continued to play, and again it rained cats and dogs. We finally gave up; anybody ever hear the Thai saying that 'never trust the weather and the women in Phuket'?
We left the club and proceeded to check-in at the Metropole Hotel in downtown Phuket, and as everybody was feeling soddend and weary from the rain, we decided to have a traditional massage. Found that the one at the hotel was fully booked, so proceeded to the Royal Thavorn. I decided to choose a younger lady, and regretted it, as her technique was really [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor, more like using her fingers to poke me, as compared to the firm, continuous pressure of traditional massage. I was in more pain at the end of the session than before I went in!
We came out from the massage feeling hungry, and had dinner at the Laem Hin, which was okay, except that somehow it has become infested with mosquitoes!
After dinner, we made a beeline for Fantasia, a nightclub with karaoke. There were about 30-40 girls available, and we each selected one to take back for the entire night. Cost about Baht 4,000 per girl for the whole night.
My girl was a slim, petite 5ft 2in, about 7/10 in terms of looks. She came with 36-B and I was surprised to learn that she's already 30 years old -- maybe because of her petiteness, she looked about 24 years old to me.
We started with a shower, and brushed our teeth. I was chagrined to smell that she had bad breath, even after brushing her teeth!! I suspect that she has a decaying cavity, and in the process of brushing, worked it up, and hence the odour.
Anyway, it was a pretty good session, as she was all wet after I diddled her clitoris with my finger. I mounted in the missionary, and was delighted that she was still quite tight. Shot my load, and we fell asleep. I woke up in the early morning due to a stomach ache and sat for almost 1 hour on the john. Contemplated having another round with her, but just couldn't forget the bad breath, so decided to pass.
DAY 2 : Woke up and headed for another round of golf at the same club; again, it rained like cats and dogs, but the rest of my friends insisted that we had to complete 18 holes no matter what it took. So, you can just imagine the torture of being soaking wet, etc. etc.
Went looking for traditional massage after the game, and again ended up at the Royal Thavorn. This time I selected oil massage, and with the lights dimmed so low, and the gentle, soft hands of the ML, I was in the mood.
Paid her Baht 1,000 for a FJ as she was more than 30 years old. While pumping away, I asked for anal, and said that I will give her an additional 500 baht -- she agreed, but unfortunately, I could not really get the entire shaft in, since she kept moving away. Finally, decided to just stick with the pussy, and finished off there.
Went for dinner up the hill at Tun-ka Restaurant, serving Thai food, and it was simply DELICIOUS!!
After that, we headed for Rome Place Hotel, and checked out the girls on the 4th Floor. There were about 10 girls available, all no older than 23 years. Picked a 19-year old looker, and made an appointment for them to meet us at our hotel at 10.30pm.
We went back to our hotel, and decided to relax at the Lobby Lounge, while waiting for the girls. To our surprise, we found out that the club at the basement had some of the best looking girls we had ever come acros in Phuket, and they were available for take-out to our hotel rooms as well. Jeez ... we had been wasting our time cruising around looking for action at mediocre places! Even though my 19-year old from Rome Place was quite a beauty, she was the only pretty one there, whereas this place was crawling with beauties.
Well, the girls from Rome Place showed up, and I had a pretty good session. She's about 5ft 5 in, with a slim body, and long legs. The entire package looked like a model, as she's a real looker. The only drawback was that she'd had a boob job, although it looked real good -- you know, it didn't look artifically out of proportion.
After finishing, all of us agreed to head down to the Pink Lady for some fun. As were all worn-out, we stayed in the karaoke rooms; the girl I picked was from the bar, and very comely, with REAL upthrust breasts ... I checked. She's 21 years old, and had a body that was packed tight!! I was drooling over her breasts all night, and wished that she was available for take-out.
DAY 3 : Left Phuket to return to Kuala Lumpur.
Yes, the rates for hotels in Phuket can be unreasonably high; I read in a brochure that the rainy season is from May-October, and that from 1st of May, the hotels revise their prices DOWN due to the rainy season. With the amount of rain we were experiencing, I can imagine that it's really no fun if you're there for golf or hanging out by the beach.
In terms of comparing Patong with the area we were hanging out in, I think it's not so crowded as Patong, and less of a tourist rich area; in a sense, seemed more altruistic in terms of a Thai experience. But, different strokes for different folks, I guess.
I was about to give up on Phuket as a monger destination, but the club at the Metropole Hotel really makes me want to return.
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Really good report.
I'm on my way for a golf/monger trip to Thailand as well. May follow your itinerary as it seems I'm going to the places you've gone to.
Does anybody know where the ST hotel is on Bangla Road?