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[QUOTE=Pty Seminole]Los Arcos is very convient. It's located a block away from Via Espaņa, 5 minutes from La Bodegita / Habanos. All taxi drivers know the place, it's not a push bottom per se, it's a legit motel, very clean and cheap ($12 for 2 hours, $22 for the whole night).[/QUOTE]
If I am not staying with one of my non-pros at their houses then I like to stay at Los Arcos. I came across it by driving around with a chick when Montreal and Euro were full. It is a better place than the other two that I mentioned. The rooms pretty much look new. Nice shower, cable TV/w porn (they also rent porn movies at the front desk). Cold drink machine and ice downstairs. The only thing for me that is missing is a computer with internet. But as you know it is supposed to be a fuck shop and not a full service hotel.
Still haven't quite figured it out yet though. The first time I stayed there the parking lot was full but they had rooms. Last time the parking lot was empty and they said they were full.
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Panama City or San Jose?
Okay, so I did a 2 week trip to PTY back in August and had a blast (check my reviews--Rodeo's Totally Fucking Awesome Trip to Panama City or something like that)! I'm now thinking of returning in June, but, am also contemplating going to Costa Rica. For those who have mongered in both, which would provide the best experience?
Know that I am nuts for beautiful, big tittied, bubble butt Colombianas! I didn't really come across too many outwardly available Panamanian pros, but I've heard the Costa Rican girls are more abundantly available and I'm open to them as well. I'll probably go from Thursday thru Sunday and speak limited Spanish. Ideally, I'd like to do 2-3 girls per day. In providing your recommendation, please don't forget to factor in hotel costs, location relative to "the action" and other pertinent info!
Thanks in advance!
Rodeo
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PTY or SJO
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112]Okay, so I did a 2 week trip to PTY back in August and had a blast (check my reviews--Rodeo's Totally Fucking Awesome Trip to Panama City or something like that)! I'm now thinking of returning in June, but, am also contemplating going to Costa Rica. For those who have mongered in both, which would provide the best experience?
Know that I am nuts for beautiful, big tittied, bubble butt Colombianas! I didn't really come across too many outwardly available Panamanian pros, but I've heard the Costa Rican girls are more abundantly available and I'm open to them as well. I'll probably go from Thursday thru Sunday and speak limited Spanish. Ideally, I'd like to do 2-3 girls per day. In providing your recommendation, please don't forget to factor in hotel costs, location relative to "the action" and other pertinent info!
Thanks in advance!
Rodeo[/QUOTE]If you have not been to San Jose, go for the experience. Each location has pros and cons, opinions vary but you will enjoy yourself in either place with the proper research.
Enjoy!
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Rodeo, I agree with HoleRanger, that's a tough one. You'll find plenty of beautiful, large breasted, bubble butt Colombianas in both places, and for the stunners prices are comparable. But I think I'd give the edge to Panama if that's primarily what you're looking for. It's hard to beat the looks/performance/price combination at Golden Time, and the freelance Colombian stunners in Panama on average provide better service and are more willing to negotiate on price and time than what you'll find at the Del Rey in San Jose.
In general, San Jose is more gringo friendly, and it's more point and click for the monger. You'll run across a lot of gringos, and by virtue of being a smaller city it's easier to get from place to place.
For daytime action, I like the MP's better in San Jose. They're cheaper, ranging in price from maybe $20/hr. in some of the local places to $45/hour in the best. Zona Blue and the Del Rey are more entertaining places to hang out during the day than what you'll find in Panama. Also, the best daytime options -- the Del Rey, Zona Blue and New Fantasy are all close together.
At night-time, that's a tough one. Regarding central location of the night-time hooker bars and clubs, I might give the Espana area in Panama City an edge over any area in San Jose. But then the Del Rey in S.J. from about 9:00 PM to 1:00 Am has the largest selection of freelancers of any bar I've ever been too, although admittedly some of the stunners are jaded and have an attitude like U.S. prostitutes. You'll see more hot women there than in any single place in Panama. You're more likely to get GFE at Habano's or La Bodeguita, but you don't have nearly the selection.
There are some strip bars, like Kamur, Pantera Rose, and Le Grillon in S.J. that are a lot of fun, have some reasonably good looking women, and it won't break the bank if you decide you want to have sex with one of them. San Jose definitely has the edge for mid-priced stripper bars. Only Miami in Panama is in the same league. At the high end, Elite in Panama is one of the most entertaining clubs around, and Le Palace has some really hot women. The problem is the cost -- if you're going to have sex with the woman you may be looking at dropping $500 before the night is over. In Costa Rica, the high end clubs tend to be rip offs compared to the other alternatives, and the women aren't hotter than top ones in the mid range clubs. So, anyway, at the high end I'd give Panama the edge.
I wouldn't give either city an edge as far as hotel costs are concerned, but there are a lot more of them, especially high end hotels, in Panama. Presidente and Sportman's Lodge, the most popular and best located girl friendly places in San Jose tend to fill up quickly, especially on weekends and holidays, so book early.
San Jose is more laid-back and a lot cooler (temperature) than Panama. Panama is larger, more cosmopolitan, and has better restaurants and more night life. If you're into nature, things like volcanoes, canopy rides, etc., are accessible via a day trip from San Jose. Neither city is particularly accessible to good beaches IMHO.
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SJO vs. PTY
Rodeo
Good to hear from you.
For a short trip I would definitely hit SJO. I have only done it once, and I call it "effortless mongering". You will not need to go hunting.
Tiny did an excellent job in his post (of course). I am not going to repeat anything. He pretty much put a guide book in a couple of paragraphs.
My only two highlights are:
SJO wins hands down for daytime action. You can do an onsite MP or go to DelRey and take out.
GFE is harder to come by in SJO. I think I was like 2 for 7 on my trip. The other girls were fun but not like some of the ones I have had in PTY>
PM me if you have any questions.
Enjoy!
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Holeranger, Tiny, RegTrav,
Thanks for your inputs. Its so hard to make the decision when I had such a great time in Panama. I think my saving grace is that I love trying new places. Ideally, I should take a whole week and do 3 days in one and 3 or 4 in another. I'll probably end up in SJO though. If the women are the same in looks, I can forego the GFE as long as they perform. Which brings me to the all important question. Is BBBJ the norm or the exception in SJO? I think I was 50/50 in PTY. One last question that I wondered about when I was there. Is the Marriott across from Habano's girl-friendly? Seems like the perfect location if so. I always saw girls and guys going in and out, but none directly from Habano's, so I never knew for sure. Thanks!
Rodeo
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Rodeo, reports are that the Marriott is girl friendly -- they won't charge you extra for a guest. I think that Regulr Travlr came up with a way to get a woman in from the Casino without having to register her at the front desk -- maybe he'll weigh in here. As far as BBBJ goes, I don't have a good answer. I've probably gotten a higher percentage in Panama. But knock out the Del Rey stunners and it's probably higher in Costa Rica. I don't ask women for it though. If it's important, just ask before you select, and you'll get the ratio a lot higher than 50/50 in either place. "Mamas sin condon?" will do.
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Time for me to share
Greetings. I am back in Panama City, and having the time of my life. Really!
I am a 40+ year old gringo who is semi fat, and balding. I also walk with a slight limp. Not to brag, but in the U. S. , I probably would have had more than several hot dates within the last 3 weeks. Unfortunately though, most of them would have been with my right hand. I am, alas, in Panama, and have been so for about three weeks. I have recently experienced the expected paradigm shift. My right hand has been on vacation so I have been forced to seek satisfaction elsewhere. Has this been a problem? Of course not! As I said, I am in Panama City!
I had lived in P. C. For about 2 years before returning to the U. S. For about 10 months. I had an outrageous time here in the past (refer to my past posts).
In the past 3 weeks I have had visits from about 4 or 5 girls that I had known before returning to the U. S. Last March. I have also scored with about a dozen new girls. Life is sweet!
My approach has been outlined in previous posts. I do not go to clubs, or use SW. I have been using the ads in the newspaper, scouring the malls, and striking up conversations on the street (most notably the Calidonia and Calle 12 areas). About a quarter of the chicks that I have banged have been foreigners. Many repeat customers make for looooong days. When you are an old guy like me, and bedding 2, 3, or 4 girls a day, life is sweet, but tiring. Some days, there is not enough leche to go around. Thank god for toys!
I recently hooked up with a realllllllly cute Panamanian chick. I am ready to let you guys take a crack at her. You must speak reasonably good Spanish, and have made a few worthwhile posts, for me to consider recommending you to her. Most of the girls that I meet, would not be interested in meeting someone that they do not know, for sex. This one is a bit different, and when I broached the subject she responded favorably. If you are only interested in silicone enhanced light skinned Colombian chicas, do not contact me. What I have found here, is a super cute black teenage cheerleader type! She is about 4 foot 10 inches tall (very small), with a super cute face, and sweet body. Her smile is wonderful, and she is a real find. I thought that she was about 17 y. O. , but she is 22, and has a 2 y. O. Kid. People often tell her that she looks anywhere from 14 to 18 y. O. She is a very pretty Culisa. Her chest is a bit oversized for her small frame. She is from San Miguelito (thank god for all the girls from that place). She is super sweet, has a pixie type face and is not a pro. She is just looking for some extra spending money, like many Panamanians. Super sweet face, great disposition, good provider IMHO, no signs of childbirth, and is caliente. Her skin is medium dark to dark, and glistens like that of the airbrush enhanced girls that grace the covers of Ebony and Jet magazines. Her speaking voice is a bit rough, but everything else about this girl is smooooooth! True GFE!
I talked to her about mentioning her to some of my friends on this site. She said it would be O. K. , but I should not post my pictures of her for everyone to see.
If you have a small girl with big boobs fetish, or just like pretty Morenas, this would be a real find for you. She said that she would be available for a couple of hours, or an all night affair. She would also be willing to go out for a night on the town, or for an extended weekend vacation (what Panamanian girl would not be interested in that! ). She is good looking enough to take anywhere! She has family and friends that can watch her 2 y. O son. She is from a poor area, and responds to someone who takes the time to get to know her. This is a tiny investment and really pays off with her. She is hot and sexy, and knows when to use her mouth for things other than talking.
Contact me if you are serious in wanting to meet up with her. If I introduce you to her, she understands what you are interested in doing to her. As far as group sex, anal, and other stuff, I do not know what here preferences and limits are. I am an old guy, and she is patient and accommodating with me. I do know, however, that she can run with the big dogs and outlast all of you young bucks.
To come to the city, she will make a 45 minute to 1 hour bus trip. Please do not abuse her time. Remember, time is money.
Again, for me to consider introducing you to her, you should have made a few contributions to this site, and speak Spanish reasonably well, and really dig the cute Morenas.
Suerte!
P. D.
Drop me a private message if interested.
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Carinvale time in Panama
Got here Thursday, found a taxi to take me to Mariott for 28us. Dropped in a few places that night. Golden time-very clean, professional operation complete with maitre 'd sort of guy with ear piece and microphone to direct you to sitting area which looks like a Doctor's waiting room. Unfortunately the lineup was very poor, two possibles perhaps and then one seemed olsen twins kinda slim and the other while pleasant to look at had a bit of a gut. Normal price for FS upstairs was 93us. Got hustled into going to River club-horrible, grimy all that the stereotypical massage parlour seen in movies looks like.
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Carnivale time in panama
Got here Thursday, found a taxi to take me to Mariott for 28us. Dropped in a few places that night. Golden time-very clean, professional operation complete with maitre 'd sort of guy with ear piece and microphone to direct you to sitting area which looks like a doctor's waiting room. Unfortunately the lineup was very poor, two possibles perhaps and then one seemed olsen twins kinda slim and the other while pleasant to look at had a bit of a gut. Normal price for fs upstairs was 93us.
Got hustled into going to river club-horrible, grimy all that the stereotypical massage parlour seen in movies looks like. Women were terrible the heavies at the front and tony soprano type at the front desk completed the picture. Please avoid. Taxi drivers get paid to bring people there.
Le palace-everything I hoped for as I walked in, ugly or mediocre here is the exception to the rule. Very laid back place, girls don't approach, quite small. Worth the eye candy. The bar gets 130us the girl 300us. The waiters have neon letters stencelled to their waistcoats, these guys can be helpful in getting girls to come over and even finding the ones who dance cause after the dance they take a while to hit the floor.
First day take out was incredible, great attitude needed some encouragement for BBBJ but excellent, def. Worth the price great professional that got into it and me.
Greed and lust are cardinal sins after getting the number of take away no. 1 I did not repeat and its been sort of downhill from there. So many beautiful women causes you to make a to do list, focus on body alone and not attitude can cause you to not have as good a night as you have in mind. Case in point lets skip to last night, had take away no. 3 was watching her since day 1 because she had a slamming body, too hot to be true with good looks as well. Called her over and spoke to her on the second night. Immediately I could sense the disconnect, its not hard to figure out its very apparent.shes a bit false, just friendly enough but if she werent a ho and a normal chick that your friend introduced you to, you would think she was a bit snooty and into herself cept when she flashes you a smile and touches your hand when her cocktail is finished but at the end of the night she ditches you and your friend for a cool sort of preppie prick. This girl, luisa had bad body language so I actually did the right thing and lost her. Nicely. She didn't last for long cause the guy next to me took her out a few minutes after.
So back to last night. It so happens that le palace is closed sundays and the Monday and Tuesday of carnival. Damn. I decide that I must do the to do list so I go early night no. 3 and get a few numbers. Its very easy just ask they even go to the bar to get a pen and paper apparently the management doesnt mind. So I have three numbers and its going great I have a nice beer buzz, I spoke to nicole and am now talking to paris and they were into it. I was feeling the vibe chatting away in my poor ass spanish, got both numbers by the way cause its Saturday night so now I have Sunday, Monday covered plus take away no. 1's number so tuesdays good too. Then luisa shows up and she looks like a greek goddess with too much makeup and a bit jaw heavy. But that body is killing me so I do it I call her over and. Its the same, shes not a people person this chick but I make negociations but things falter at BBBJ, won't take extra for it gives me the "o my god how could you ask me to do that" story "they test us here ect, et fuckin cetera" so I do the worst thing I could do, I say lets go baby I'm sure you will make it up to me. Walk out of there after she changes then she refuses to walk to the mariott which is super girl friendly by the way and she says we take a taxi. Me the idiota does that and for the first fuckin time in Panama sice I arrived I get fucked over by the cabbie.
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Carnivale in Panama
i was talking about this cabbie. you see i found out that everywhere in panama city, except the outskirts i guess, costs for the most 3us to get to. usually le palace, elite, golden time ect will cost 2us to the marriott. this guys says no way 5us and makes a scene with luisa next to me going "its le palace its expensive" so i pay it cause all the porters are enjoying the spectacle all i did was slam the door and give him a "you fuckin rip off artist" retort. i'm too clean cut to stick my foot through the window. sorry. anyway things get better upstairs, she warms up, we cuddle, chat, eat chocolate, drink, kiss, then she peels off the jeans and her hips and stomach and ass are incredible. then she fucks things up by doing the "i don't want him to touch my pussy cause maybe he'll fist me so i will keep brushing his hands away and not open the pearly gates as wide as i can" the signs were there before, not people friendly means and will always mean- not open to touching, caressing you have all access to my body, better mongers than me can pass the barrier but i haven't acquired the technique cause its mental with the chick and i want to fuck not play psycologist.
she performed well, rode me like a mid western farm girl but it was mechanical, no intimacy or passion like nights 1 and 2 and to be honest i was glad when it was over and i came cause with the mental picture i had built up of the night blowing in the fucking wind i had no one to blame but me. still one of the most beautiful women i had sex with but it was not good sex and i paid for good sex and treated her nice and should have read the signs goddamn. greed and lust rob a man of reason and intelligence. part of this mongering thing is that its always a game with both parties playing each other so don't hate the players and don't hate the game either or else you'll just be at home jerking off to porn. i have to tell you about take out no. 2 which was better than luisa but tonight is sunday and i can either call them numbers or take a chance and go on the hunt again. hunting is always exciting, you just never know. ever. what might happen so i'm going out to elite and golden time and prob cotton club cause theres always so many cars outside there at night and if its all bad i'll give paris a call. and see how well i paly the game this time.
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Asshole Cabbies
Sato San
First thanks for your reports and contributing back to the board. I remember you asking questions when you planned your trip. You paid back with nice honest reports.
Don't feel bad about the LePalace cabbie. That is a regular rip off. I always stay at the Marriott and the few times I have taken out of LP I got the same act. I really wanted to walk but the chicas have these outrageous shoes so its impossible. Your stuck with one of the taxi's waiting at the door.
This is also happening at Bodeguita. But there it is easy enough to walk down the street with a girl and grab another cab.
The rest of the time I put $2 in my hand before I get in a taxi. I usually don't go anywhere far. I either give them 1 or 2 when I get out depending on where I go. I never ask what it costs anymore.
Also, they NEVER have change, not even for a 5. So I stock up on 1s.
Have fun on the rest of your trip. I look forward to hearing about it.
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Carnivale in Panama
Last night was very slow. It appears that all really does shut down for carnivale because after dinner at madame changs, which was set to close at 9pm I could not get a taxi and after waiting for 10 mins or so started the long walk back to the marriott but managed to get a taxi at the hard rock cafe. Unfortunately golden time was closed as was le palace. I was in miami at 9pm then again at 11pm. At 9pm no one was there neither chicas nor customers but at 11pm things picked up. Theres a runway/catwalk type stage that girls perform on. There are chairs at the bar and TGI style booth at the side of the stage. The overall look of the chicas was preety bad I'm sure you can find the diamond in the rough but because of the layout its a bit difficult to see all the girls cause if you're on one side you can't see whats up on the other. I was dissappointed and was charged 10us for a Panama beer at the bar which was ridiculous.
The taxi thing was really a problem so I had to make a deal with one of those fullpanama tours guys outside the hotel to stick with me for the night because I didn't think it would be fun to be trekking back or waitnig outside a club. The best thing that happened was Elite 2. Its quoted on the forum as 25us open bar for you not the chica drink, to enter but when you get in the woman says 30us I just said "Esta vente cinco no? " and it was cool. Inside the place is bigger than le palace, a three pole stage and a sort of cinema like seating arrange ment with comfy chairs around the stage area there are private booths to the left and the bar and bathrooms to the right. Not much girls here and certainly few lookers. However I met this beautiful, short panamainian girl called Lorena who made my night. Sometimes when you meet a chica her personality is infectuous so meet a really bubbly, happy girl and it raises you out of your slump or the eagle thing-you know what I mean. You just get to the place but instead of relaxing and taking a chill out you keep scopeing intently to see what the prospects are and whos with who, how many people there ect. Lorenda spoke perfect english and she chatted a mile a minute I think it was that connection thing again cause she had to get up to dnace on stage and she really shook that culo so I gave her a poquito tip when she came back. Now we didn't fuck but I did do a private dance which is open to some molestation and wrestleing in the booth for 28us which you pay on your tab, . Lorena was insightful, made me smile a lot told me about how miami club is run by the Chinese, apparently lots of drugs and drug use around and she worked there and made lots of money cause as she put it "in elite you may go many days without fucking but you make money dancing and tips, in miami you fuck everyday so you make more money but its no nice you get very tired and management no nice" apparently the girls use some drugs as well at miami a sort of way perhaps to get the chicas to spend their money back at the club. Its all hearsay of course I'm certainly not slamming the place just repeating what I wa told.
Cutie lorenda gyrating on my lap and wriggly like bugs bunny"s novia gave me a stiffy and the banter between her and the only other two panamanians was entertaining they do seem nicer than the columbians but then that could be because they can speak english. So her friend says laughing, "she wants to fuck, she told me so, take her into the backroom" but I didn't cause I still had miami on my mind and golden times but in retrospect it would have been the thing to do. Nice girl, wants to do it, likes you but you don't do the right thing because the ho's are always prettier in the next ho-house. Thats bullshit by the way, a bird in the hand is always worth two in the bush but the sex fantasies you create in your mind won't accept that. So at the end of the night what did I have. Nothing, nada. After miami I went back to the hotel gave paris a call and she couldn't make it. Wasted opportunity with lorena but I did get a good nights sleep.
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carnivale in panama
Have to tell you bout take away no. 2 night no. 2. She was from le palace and her name was valentina and she was young and hot with a superb body. I waited on her most of the night cause she was talking to two guys before me so I had to wait till they time out or took her out which they did not. She didn't speak much english which was a problem but she was very sweet. Had to push the BBBJ thing again but she eventually agreed. Took her out after paying the bill. Word of advice here, the cost to the house is 130us the witers have an annoying habit of charging you 136us and then asking for a tip on top of that for doing nothing.
Valentina was cool cause she took my arm and led me out of le palace motioned to me we didn't need a cab and proceeded to walk with me in tow up the little hill. It was then I realised that mariott was a block away. She was struggling valiently in those hooker heels because she was on the short side, I guess they make up for height insecurity with higher heels we men do stupid things like buy penis pumps to add inches or else believe the shit they write on NASCAR cars.
Inside Valentina is a hottie, have some drinks I have a shower she feels obligated to have one cause I come out smelling good and its a gret night. Loved her body and her spirit. I was sweating, heart pounding and learned a little spanish too. On the hotel tv I saw a regggaeton music video where this guy is singing "duro. Duro. Duro" I didn't know what it meant then when I was fucking valentina see would say "duro. Duro" which would mean faster or harder not knowing which one I decided to do both. Couch, chair, bed, floor, bed. Well worht the price of admission. When I came and pulled out she squeezed every drop from me when I was still in the condom. First time. Felt great. Sort of intense I can't handle it great. Nice. She feel asleep and couldn't cause I was sweating buckets and my heart was racing. Woke up in the morning she was freaking out. Jumped out of bed and called someone on the phone apologising. Apparnetly she was late for the airport cause she was supposed to leave for columbia that morning with a guyand I guess she was late. So she left in a major hurry very distressed poor thing. Prob was true cuse she wasnt there that night at le palace. Going to try some le palace numbers today. BY THE WAY WHILE THE PRICE QUOTED AT LE PALACE ia 300us for the girl and they say 2hrs they actually stay all night, if you want to I guess. They all stayed the night cept for luisa who left at 4am. I took her out at 12am.
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Permanent Damage,
Good Work. How I can I meet this wonderful ebony girl?