Manila

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2865407]To each his own. The four axes in this hobby are cost (even freebies usually have a cost of some sort), looks, attitude, and service. I've been with several ladies in the Philippines, and many more back here where I live. One was a really hot 19 year old (9 in my book) with the thin body type I love that wasn't too expensive (6 k, I think), but a total dead fish. I would never repeat that. Several others about the same price but maybe 7-8 looks with much better service. My favorite is a freelancer I met on Pinalove. She has the body I love (thin and small tits) but severe acne that puts her at maybe a 6, but this girl is the best kisser I have ever met and has a small pussy and excellent kegel control......[/QUOTE]BTW of all the countries I have been to the country with the women with the tightest pussies has been the Philippines.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2865555]BTW of all the countries I have been to the country with the women with the tightest pussies has been the Philippines.[/QUOTE]Yeah man, typical Filipina has a vice grip. I'm amazed that even the ones with rugrats are still tight. Thank the lord for Filipinas.

The tiniest and tightest? The few fully grown Japanese women and girls I bagged in LOS Angeles, Tokyo and Kyoto had the tiniest pussies in the world, just tight, tiny holes fitting my pinkie snugly. But they never objected or complained, just proceeded with full passion like any good Japanese GFs. The unusual tiny vaginas may be Japanese unique genetic traits.

The next tightest are Vietnamese. Many looked at my smaller than average dick in horror and refused penetration.

Next are Pinays, equally tiny like Viets' but more than half complained of soreness and needed rests between sessions.

The loosest I found are Latinas in Mexico and South America. A few Tijuana girls were so loose I had no feelings, did not know if my dick was doing incall or outcall. These loose girls would stand on Tijuana's streets all night without booking any guy.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2865555]BTW of all the countries I have been to the country with the women with the tightest pussies has been the Philippines.[/QUOTE]

The discussion was about physical types. Notice I didn't mention personality or service. My point was that, when you come up with a number for two girls, the higher number wins out. If a guy claims his type is 'big boobs, light skin, and tattoos', and, calculating all that, she's a 7, and standing next to her is a dark skinned, conventionally beautiful, small boobs, no tats, and her number he perceives to be an 8, she wins.

I don't have a type other than 'not fat'. Now, when it comes to personality / service vs. Looks. Jeez I think I would take a 6 that was a superstar in bed over a dead fish 8. It gets a little tough if you go up to 9 but hell I've had enough hot girls in my life, maybe I still go with the 6.

Just booked for next month. Very much looking forward to returning.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2865407]To each his own. [/QUOTE]

You reminded me of something I haven't though of in a long time. There was this massage place near where I live and I would go there every few weeks and there was only one matronly, fairly heavy, Chinese lady working there. Not attractive. She'd give me a nice tease and then let me do her bareback and cum inside. One day I called ahead and met her there, but she had to wait for the owner to bring the keys so she had to sit in my car while we waited. We couldn't even really communicate, we just sat there, but I had the hardest tent in my pants maybe ever, thinking about what was to come.

I've dated my share of 9's in my life (hell I dated a girl for almost a year I found out later was a high priced prostitute, getting 1 k an hour on the side. Good story), but I'm not sure I've ever been as horny as I was in that car that night.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2865407]
The conversation about this is on any monger forum. Some people here rave over a Chinese woman in her 50's who will do literally anything, even though she could pass as anyone's ugly auntie. Others swear by a place with Chinese girls in their 20's that are double or triple the price. I usually stick with AMP that has older providers in their 30's-40's just because they look decent and provide good value for the service. No one is right or wrong. Just enjoy, be safe, and have fun![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2865555]BTW of all the countries I have been to the country with the women with the tightest pussies has been the Philippines.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DCups;2865568]Yeah man, typical Filipina has a vice grip. I'm amazed that even the ones with rugrats are still tight. Thank the lord for Filipinas.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2865578]The tiniest and tightest? SNIP

Next are Pinays, equally tiny like Viets' but more than half complained of soreness and needed rests between sessions.[/QUOTE]Pinas. Sub-5'ers. 80 lbs. Tight. Creampies. The things I put up with here (several times a week). Don't get me: Started.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2865578]The tiniest and tightest? The few fully grown Japanese women and girls I bagged in LOS Angeles, Tokyo and Kyoto had the tiniest pussies in the world, just tight, tiny holes fitting my pinkie snugly. But they never objected or complained, just proceeded with full passion like any good Japanese GFs. The unusual tiny vaginas may be Japanese unique genetic traits.

The next tightest are Vietnamese. Many looked at my smaller than average dick in horror and refused penetration.

Next are Pinays, equally tiny like Viets' but more than half complained of soreness and needed rests between sessions.

The loosest I found are Latinas in Mexico and South America. A few Tijuana girls were so loose I had no feelings, did not know if my dick was doing incall or outcall. These loose girls would stand on Tijuana's streets all night without booking any guy.[/QUOTE]The nationality with the most complainers for me has been Chinese sometimes even with all clothes on before the session begins. One said "Be gentle, I've got Chinese pussy". LOL.

Went to some dive KTV bars on airport road in Manila the other day. First and last time I'll head over there but it was interesting being the only foreigner in the place. Beer prices were all in the 90 peso range, some were buy 2 for 159 type of deals. Hole in the wall bars sums it up pretty much, guess there are some higher quality Korean places up the road a ways but I just hit the cheap joints. Didn't partake although there were a few cuties here and there, was more of just something new to see. If you search for airport road on google then search for the McDonalds and streetview walk west you'll see the bars. Mamasans were pushy, not many customers most of the night I'm guessing. The foreigner pricing was also pretty heavy handed. We'd be quoted 350 for a ladys drink and then see two Filipinos buy two girls drinks. My guess would be the lady drinks for the Filipinos would be closer to 120. Was quoted 4000 upstairs plus a few lady drinks then on the way out the mamasan said 2500 but by then it was too late. It was an interesting evening followed by overpriced Burgos girls wanting 10 k. Manila is a fun place for a short visit but I sure wouldn't want to live there.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2867698]It was an interesting evening followed by overpriced Burgos girls wanting 10 k. Manila is a fun place for a short visit but I sure wouldn't want to live there.[/QUOTE]Ya, Burgos is for the 1-2 week warrior. If you are an expat and want point-and-shoot gogo girls, AC is half the price and has more bars and girls. Both places have plusses and minuses.

The other Burgos joy is getting gogo girls to come to your place outside of the barfine system (afternoon delight), as cost is about 1/3 of the barfine amount. However this can be time-consuming, and its not convenient for the warrior.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2867698] It was an interesting evening followed by overpriced Burgos girls wanting 10 k.[/QUOTE]= US $180 for what? To do your plumbing, or to do general maintenance work for a day? Those prices are similar to Western Europe and the problem is the same, that these fat asses think life owes them a living. When you are in the Phils, pay local prices. Burgos girls need a few months back on the farm picking rice and getting bonked for three mangos and a banana.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2867861]Ya, Burgos is for the 1-2 week warrior. If you are an expat and want point-and-shoot gogo girls, AC is half the price and has more bars and girls. Both places have plusses and minuses.

The other Burgos joy is getting gogo girls to come to your place outside of the barfine system (afternoon delight), as cost is about 1/3 of the barfine amount. However this can be time-consuming, and its not convenient for the warrior.[/QUOTE]I'd put half of Burgos' price premium being for the girls looks (admittedly that's becoming more and more debatable) and the other half for the girls' attitude and boundaries. I've seen and had a lot more fun with Burgos girls than anyone in AC. A LOT more.

And that's both in and outside the bars.

Would I spend 8 to 10 k every night? Definitely not. However, Burgos remains the only place in PI where I routinely barfine girls when I feel like a cheat night. Says a lot about the place and girls when you consider I'm a Cheap Charlie and consider cute online girls for 3 k LT as fully priced. 😁.

I'd totally agree about the cut price out of hours opportunities after the first barfine. It's a shame that the days of buy one get one free from hookers are well and truly beyond me now that I've put on so many years and pounds. 😭.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Breadman;2867698]It was an interesting evening followed by overpriced Burgos girls wanting 10 k. Manila is a fun place for a short visit but I sure wouldn't want to live there.[/QUOTE]Jarango: [I]= US $180 for what? To do your plumbing, or to do general maintenance work for a day? Those prices are similar to Western Europe and the problem is the same, that these fat asses think life owes them a living. [b]When you are in the Phils, pay local prices. Burgos girls need a few months back on the farm picking rice and getting bonked for three mangos and a banana.[/b][/I].

This is the general complaint about the Burgos bars: They are expensive. However, since its a decades-long profitable enterprise, there is a solid market for it. Like Goferring, for the sake of convenience, I have on occasion just walked into a Burgos bar where I know the girls, and barfined one on the spur of the moment, paid the additional (FL would have been cheaper), just for convenience. You were sure at the time of getting an evening and morning bonk (as the morning tip is for LT and good service). Could have gotten that also for half the price (or less) if had I wanted to put in that effort.

Also the Burgos bars are the go-to organization for gents who don't want to have to put effort into the thing. They are not interested in the Tinder process of getting a girl on cam and interviewing several until they find one they like, then meeting her for coffee in order to decide if she is worth it. In a gogo, you skip the video and coffee sessions as the girl is on display in front of you in a bikini, her tummy and wares already on display. Also some warriors make the case here that the bar scene (pub crawl, perving, desire to chat up / feel up ladies over LD's -- regardless of whether they barfine in that particular bar) really IS their thing.

I'm not making the case that anyone should utilize the gogos there. I am making the case that many warriors literally think of gogos as the defining thing to do in town. They have the money, and older / fugly SW (and the online meet process) are not for them. As such, $180 USD is not out of line. If he's in town for 2 weeks, he might well barfine 10 of the 14 nights (even a good vaxxing doctor like myself must have a rest day here and there), or he might barfine 7 nights and Tinder 3 nights. Its just another option.

As in every large city anywhere, low-end FL for 2000. Dating site or Tinder FL PYT's available for p3000-5000. Gogo girls p10 k. Smoochi and escort girls for more. And much higher-end FL available for multiples of p10 k per hour (even rich Pinoy pay that for high-end private service). Everything is there, but warriors are usually going for the easiest catch for their budget. For cheap-charlies that is Burgos SW, and for gents with a budget the easiest convenient place is a gogo bar.

Prices are set by what the market will bear. Complaining about prices is like complaining about the weather. If it bothers you, you have to move on to another market.

When / if I retire in Phils, I will never barfine again. I'll have the time to settle into a rotation of non-pros. But until then, you pay market prices.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2867979]Jarango: [I]= US $180 for what? To do your plumbing, or to do general maintenance work for a day? Those prices are similar to Western Europe and the problem is the same, that these fat asses think life owes them a living. [b]When you are in the Phils, pay local prices. Burgos girls need a few months back on the farm picking rice and getting bonked for three mangos and a banana.[/b][/I].

This is the general complaint about the Burgos bars: They are expensive. However, since its a decades-long profitable enterprise, there is a solid market for it. Like Goferring, for the sake of convenience, I have on occasion just walked into a Burgos bar where I know the girls, and barfined one on the spur of the moment, paid the additional (FL would have been cheaper), just for convenience. You were sure at the time of getting an evening and morning bonk (as the morning tip is for LT and good service). Could have gotten that also for half the price (or less) if had I wanted to put in that effort.

Also the Burgos bars are the go-to organization for gents who don't want to have to put effort into the thing. They are not interested in the Tinder process of getting a girl on cam and interviewing several until they find one they like, then meeting her for coffee in order to decide if she is worth it. In a gogo, you skip the video and coffee sessions as the girl is on display in front of you in a bikini, her tummy and wares already on display. Also some warriors make the case here that the bar scene (pub crawl, perving, desire to chat up / feel up ladies over LD's -- regardless of whether they barfine in that particular bar) really IS their thing.

I'm not making the case that anyone should utilize the gogos there. I am making the case that many warriors literally think of gogos as the defining thing to do in town. They have the money, and older / fugly SW (and the online meet process) are not for them. As such, $180 USD is not out of line. If he's in town for 2 weeks, he might well barfine 10 of the 14 nights (even a good vaxxing doctor like myself must have a rest day here and there), or he might barfine 7 nights and Tinder 3 nights. Its just another option.

As in every large city anywhere, low-end FL for 2000. Dating site or Tinder FL PYT's available for p3000-5000. Gogo girls p10 k. Smoochi and escort girls for more. And much higher-end FL available for multiples of p10 k per hour (even rich Pinoy pay that for high-end private service). Everything is there, but warriors are usually going for the easiest catch for their budget. For cheap-charlies that is Burgos SW, and for gents with a budget the easiest convenient place is a gogo bar.[/QUOTE]I've spent a few weeks in Manila on my way to the province several times. I'm not a bar guy, so I've seen escorts or freelancers on Pinalove. Manila Courtesans has two hours from 4. 5 k and up, with most being 5-7 k for two hours and double for overnight. Most girls on Pinalove that are freelancers are 3-4 k short time and 4-6 k overnight. But, if you play it right, the ones on dating websites can turn into a regular thing, and even branch out from there. Coming in for the holidays, I'll be seeing my regular from pinalove (who says she is my GF hehehe) for two days, no discussion of money. Leaving a few weeks later, I'm spending two days with her best friend from back home in Mindanao who messaged me, and she is a hot one! I've been waiting for the usual emergency that it seems like all pinay have, but it's been a month talking to her and nothing. Just asked if I would buy her plane ticket for those two days (a weekend she is not working). 6 k for two days and nights isn't bad. Life is good here!

I have recently moved to the Ph (3 months) and one of the things I am missing from my previous countries are massage parlors where you could get HEs or full services. Anything here in Manila area? I have seen numerous ads about services offered in hotel / condo but all of these look dicey from 2 counts: 1. My last experience. Got conned by a 'not a girl' who then had somebody call me up as an agent and ripped more money off me. Fortunately I had met up in one of those book by the hour motels. And 2. Don't want a scene at my condo or get into a situation where it gets embarassing as my work colleagues live in the same condo.

I'm also open to having a regular 'friend' who I can meet up with discreetly but really want to avoid the person coming up and living with me as my GF.

Any suggestions? If anyone has any tried and non scam tested recommendations, will be happy to receive a connect on my DM. Can reciprocate or be a wingman to any of you who have been here for long.