Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2740158]It's weird how no condom use has become normalized on this board. Based on actually talking to people, I suspect it's just a few individuals here posting relentlessly, not a representative cross section of mongers.

This practice is indeed reckless and harmful to the girls and fellow mongers. I don't expect it to ever stop entirely, but it certainly shouldn't be normalized.

Thailand had a huge AIDS problem in the 1990's, with deaths in the hundreds of thousands. While not a death sentence anymore (to those who can afford and stick to treatment), it's still life-changing, expensive and highly unpleasant. Antibiotic-resistant STDs are no the rise too. Many thanks, BBFS people.[/QUOTE]I could not agree more. In my two decades as a member of this form I can't ever remember a time where there was more discussion of BBFS than now. It definitely shouldn't be normalized but perhaps there should be a separate section created for it here in the Thailand forum so those that desire to discuss this can.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2740186]I could not agree more. In my two decades as a member of this form I can't ever remember a time where there was more discussion of BBFS than now.[/QUOTE]A vocal minority has succeeded in exhausting the silent majority of forum participants on this topic. Reminds me a bit of the endless nose musings we had to endure a while back, or the poster who repeatedly lectured us on how to sexually satisfy a woman as though his approaxh was the best and only way.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2740186]It definitely shouldn't be normalized but perhaps there should be a separate section created for it here in the Thailand forum so those that desire to discuss this can.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Until such time: the ignore function is your friend.

SL.

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[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2740238]This website gets a lot of heat from everywhere, to the point where it cannot even get a credit card processor to accept memberships. BBFS should be kept private and silent. To blatantly post about BBFS exploits is irresponsible IMHO.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;2740209]A vocal minority has succeeded in exhausting the silent majority of forum participants on this topic. Reminds me a bit of the endless nose musings we had to endure a while back, or the poster who repeatedly lectured us on how to sexually satisfy a woman as though his approaxh was the best and only way.

Agreed. Until such time: the ignore function is your friend.

SL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp;2740158]It's weird how no condom use has become normalized on this board. Based on actually talking to people, I suspect it's just a few individuals here posting relentlessly, not a representative cross section of mongers.

This practice is indeed reckless and harmful to the girls and fellow mongers. I don't expect it to ever stop entirely, but it certainly shouldn't be normalized.

Thailand had a huge AIDS problem in the 1990's, with deaths in the hundreds of thousands. While not a death sentence anymore (to those who can afford and stick to treatment), it's still life-changing, expensive and highly unpleasant. Antibiotic-resistant STDs are no the rise too. Many thanks, BBFS people.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2740186]I could not agree more. In my two decades as a member of this form I can't ever remember a time where there was more discussion of BBFS than now. It definitely shouldn't be normalized but perhaps there should be a separate section created for it here in the Thailand forum so those that desire to discuss this can.[/QUOTE][B]General Rules.
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To address the usual arguments:

If a guy wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's his risk and his business.

If a girl wants to engage in sex without using a condom, that's her risk and her business.

If YOU want to protect yourself from either or both of the aforementioned parties, then YOU should use a condom for sex all the time and thus YOU will be protected from the allegedly unsafe sex practices of the other parties.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2740186]I could not agree more. In my two decades as a member of this form I can't ever remember a time where there was more discussion of BBFS than now. It definitely shouldn't be normalized but perhaps there should be a separate section created for it here in the Thailand forum so those that desire to discuss this can.[/QUOTE]Well, maybe it isn't entirely unrelated that we have PREP now. PREP is more effective than condoms to prevent HIV infection. It must be used properly though, daily for the girls being mandatory, while both on demand and daily are effective for punters.

Further a girl who is infected by HIV and on PEP (not PREP), and keeps her viral load under control (near suppression) represents no risks at all either.

So, jumping up and down chanting "use condom, use condom, use condom" is a bit ridiculous IMHO.

[QUOTE=MaxBkk;2740238]This website gets a lot of heat from everywhere, to the point where it cannot even get a credit card processor to accept memberships. BBFS should be kept private and silent. To blatantly post about BBFS exploits is irresponsible IMHO.[/QUOTE]That should be a board Administrator 's decision.

[QUOTE=Allover;2740295]That should be a board Administrator 's decision.[/QUOTE]Exactly! The administrator has made that decision and Eih Tooms has provided the link and copied the important text.

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[QUOTE=MomoFarang;2740267]Well, maybe it isn't entirely unrelated that we have PREP now. PREP is more effective than condoms to prevent HIV infection. It must be used properly though, daily for the girls being mandatory, while both on demand and daily are effective for punters.

Further a girl who is infected by HIV and on PEP (not PREP), and keeps her viral load under control (near suppression) represents no risks at all either.

So, jumping up and down chanting "use condom, use condom, use condom" is a bit ridiculous IMHO.[/QUOTE]I think many of us are more worried about multi drug resistant gonorrhea, chlamydia, and other mycoplasmic infections that don't respond to treatment as opposed to HIV.

Guys its been a while since I've been to a soapy in Bangkok. In the past I have been to Annies (Not a fan) and Cupidy. Cupidy was my favorite back in the day. They used to have discounted rates in the early afternoon. What are the best soapys in Bangkok now in your opinions? No Ladyboys. =(.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2739087]I'm perfectly comfortable with that too.

I thought this was about brainstorming what the new money behind a possible reopened Snow White can do to fire up more customer interest and justify reopening the business. It wasn't for me. I have plenty of money for what I need and have so much BBFS+CIP available to me my biggest challenge is scheduling it to maximize my pleasure. Which from what I read is the only challenge most Thai punters have regarding BBFS+CIP.

And for less money and with more attractive girls than the rates paid and the girls I have seen at those supposedly PSE shops.

Virtually every expat and visiting punter I have met over the years is looking for BBFS+CIP and where to buy it from the moment they hit the airport arrival area.

If the Snow White folks want to ignore that reality, can't compete, want to pretend that it isn't something most customers want and leave a ton of money on the table (as well as any and every girl in Snow White refusing to agree to it as his their right), that's their choice and also perfectly fine with me.

If all the so-called PSE shops in Thailand disappeared forever today and never reopened, it would not put a moment's glitch in the steady stream of BBFS+CIP every expat and visiting punter I know is getting from attractive 20's-30's year old girls they meet on TF or Tinder delivered to their door for less than 2,000 baht or perhaps for double that if seen in the flesh first in a gogo bar.

My point is it's going to take some pretty fancy new curtains and cushy new foam mattresses on the cots if Snow White, Tulip, Mango or whatever hope to compete and capture some of that BBFS+CIP trade money being spent everywhere else in town with young ladies who never even heard the term "PSE".[/QUOTE]You have some perceptions about ladies being desperate enough to fuck BBFS to get money. Please keep those ideas to yourself. Snow white will continue its policy of protection as always and ladies will insist on condoms. You and your friends (all the expats you met and who want only BBFS), continue to pick up desperate hapless girls for your BBFS DATY. We the other group of sane people are least interested in a girl inside whom 5 wrinkly old guys have deposited their cum since morning.

[QUOTE=AssLover945;2740581][b]Not happening despite your wishes.[/b]
You have some perceptions about ladies being desperate enough to fuck BBFS to get money. Please keep those ideas to yourself. Snow white will continue its policy of protection as always and ladies will insist on condoms. You and your friends (all the expats you met and who want only BBFS), continue to pick up desperate hapless girls for your BBFS DATY. We the other group of sane people are least interested in a girl inside whom 5 wrinkly old guys have deposited their cum since morning.[/QUOTE]That was not my "wish" at all. I rarely go to any of those supposedly PSE shops. I don't need them at those rates and with those ladies for what I mostly look for and have only found them to be drearily mechanical when it comes to a simple BBBJ+CIM.

I was merely replying to a post about suggestions or new ideas for drumming up some customer interest in a Snow White reopening; To include on their menu a couple of services clearly approved of (for themselves) and happily accepted when offered by virtually every punter I have ever met, still leaving it to the girl to agree or not, same as everything else on every shop menu in Thailand.

And, so far, I am the only one offering any suggestions and new ideas at all. Including you.

I assume you haven't had time to catch up on reading back a few posts on this thread, right?

[QUOTE=GianniVersace;2740545]Guys its been a while since I've been to a soapy in Bangkok. In the past I have been to Annies (Not a fan) and Cupidy. Cupidy was my favorite back in the day. They used to have discounted rates in the early afternoon. What are the best soapys in Bangkok now in your opinions? No Ladyboys. =(.[/QUOTE]Although I haven't been to any, it does seem that the majority of soapies have reopened. That includes the one's on Petchburi and the ones on Rachada. I've driven up both streets recently and was very surprised to see lights on at quite a few of them. Even Catherine on Rama 9 appears to be open but La Defense is closed.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2740522]I think many of us are more worried about multi drug resistant gonorrhea, chlamydia, and other mycoplasmic infections that don't respond to treatment as opposed to HIV.[/QUOTE]Hope you know that condoms don't provide full protection against chlamydia and "mycoplasmic" infections. And drug resistant gonorrhea, is still rare amongst the heterosexual population, and can still be cured, at the cost of several days of IV antibiotics, hence hospitalization.

Decided to take a trip to 7-Heaven. I was debating between Wood Bar and 7 Heaven, but I see a lot of bad reports of unattractive women at Wood Bar, so I decided to go to 7. It is about a 5 minute walk from Phrom Phong bts. You can't really see the shop that well, but it is located in a small road in the back with a pink sign out front. I walked in and was shown a tablet with pictures of the girls with their eyes blurred. I was interested in either Pim or Lin, but they were both taken and the mamasan didn't look to happy when I said how long until they were finished. I planned on getting two girls but I decided on one, Jan. The experience was a little weird, I get taken to the room where I am told to wait. You can hear slurping and moaning sounds coming from other rooms. I saw on the menu you had to pay 500 baht add-on for them to be naked. I opted for just the base 1300 price, since I think its already pricey for just a BJ. However, they do take their top off. I would say the experience was just okay. She had nice sized boobs, average weight, and around early 30's She said I could finish twice if I finished fast. That wasn't the case, I finished once, but she had to use her hand as well. It was a good first experience, but wasn't all that. 3/5.