Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1883314]I don't know much about the fakes at MBK[/QUOTE]I've visited some mid-level watch shop in Pattaya and there is a decent selection of brands and models, with Seiko and Orient of course being prominent among mechanical ones. Prices are high compared to the USA, but not so much to EU or other high tax countries. When buying with a tax receipt there's a 5% rebate when leaving. For some regional models (Thai Seiko Monster) it wouldn't be a totally crazy purchase.

I did't saw any fakes at the mall and not even at Soi Buakhao and Central junction. Thailand has recently started some enforcing against counterfeiting, crushing the seized lots to dispose of these indignities. If we were talking about homage watches it would be different, as it perfectly possibly to have style in economy without trying to deceive anyone.

[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1883314]I don't know much about the fakes at MBK, but there is a great store that sells watch straps, Project Time. Paco Zone on Level 6 (all the way at the far end of the building).

They have and amazing selection of leather, rubber, and the popular NATO straps -- the cloth kind that is on the new Omega from the latest Bond Move Specter. It's designed for divers watches and is big enough so that it can fit over a wet suit. Though now its just really a fashionable thing. Everyoen uses their dive computer these days anyway.

But still kind of cool.[/QUOTE]Both in Pattaya and MBK they don't actually display copy watches and you have ask for them. And then most of the stuff at Mr. Jacks you have to order from the iPad mini choices and they will be available in 1-2 days. They are not kept on premises.

So right after the last post, my buddy and I headed up Soi bukkhoh (bad spelling I am sure) based on advice from the previous day. Found a restaurant serving breakfast (Witherspoon) and ate 2 plates each. OK, now we are fully rested and fully fed. About that time my Whatsapp dings. It's Me. Ent! Yay! He suggests meeting up later for steak night at the golf club. Absolutely!

We continue to walk around and check various stuff out while making our way down to beach Road. Its only about 10 am, but hell with it, I sure would like to have my first beer here, so we find a little bar facing the ocean and order up. We notice some girls hanging out on the other side of the road by the back and I get to thinking "I wonder if those girls are working? I am across the street so I casually take a picture as I am using my phone and send it of to Mr. Ent. With the question. He says "yeah, go offer 500 thb". So I walk over to this particularly cute skinny small looking one. Exchange names and she says 700. But. My gay-dar is tingling, so I politely ask "are you a girl"? Head shakes no. Fuck! It is a LB. Up to this point I have been (or thought I have been able) to spot them easily. This was the first one I was unsure of. But I read here somewhere that as long as you are respectful and ask, they will be respectful and answer. That seems to be true. I said I was not interested and went to let my buddy have a good laugh at me.

On down beach road a bit I spot a taylor so I drop in to check out what fabric they have (interested in a silk shit and all). I shoot another message to Ent about reasonable price. He replies not to mess with it. He has a guy. Then follows with "where you at exactly, I got to go to my taylor anyway, I can meet ya in 5 minutes. " Perfect! He ended up taking us to his watch guy (got a nice fake Rolex, and my buddy a nice face omega), then to the taylor. Price was right, ended up ordering 6 shirts and 2 pants. Supposed to go back for fitting today.

About noon by this time. Ent. Has some errand to go run, so we figure it is about time to check out Kinnaree anyway. Off we go.

I must say. I like Kinaree. They have good American music going, food was cooking. There where aprox. 5 guys (including us) and 10 or so girls. My friend and I get approached almost immediately and we talk to them a bit over a beer. We did buy them each one lady drink. I have read "super expensive" which I guess is a relevant term. Depends on your attitude and budget. It was 120 thb for her drink, my beer was 85. As we waited around only about 15 minutes, we decided we had actually gotten luck and the 2 we had were the hottest of the bunch. So off to the room. Got an OK attempt at a massage and pretty good service. When I emerged from the room my friend was already waiting on me. I looked around and the number of girls had more than doubled. There were some super hotties there now for sure. Going to have to return.

Just about this time got a message from Mr. Ent. Again. "come to the market and pick up girls with me and the guys". Bet, lets do this.

The market was cool. Food and drinks are about as cheap as it gets, and all the girls are coming here to get dinner-to-go before heading off to work for the night.

Then it is about 5:30 pm-ish so we head toward steak night (love those). Ate dinner and was feeling sleepy again (oh no, not this again). We all made an agreement to set our alarms for 1 am and go to WS for some clubbing action.

Alarm goes off at 1 am, and Mr. Ent. Calls at 1:03 am. "where ya at man? Get your ass up! Time to go to the club!" LOL. Got it, on my way.

We meet up at 808 and he has already claimed a great spot my the restrooms in the entryway to the dance floor. Some weird shit happened, still not quite sure what it was, but they shut down the music for a while and turned on the lights as the police were looking for something. Looked like a drug-sweep maybe. My buddy and I said we would be back and went for a walk up and down WS to see the sights since it was actually open now and not Bhudda day. When we return the club is going full steam again. Mr. Ent give me tips. "just grab one and tell her she is going with you tonight". Bet. Found one that fit my tastes, smiled at her as she is exiting the bathroom. She came over and its on! Dancing her little butt on my crotch, holding hands, the whole thing. We hang out a bit longer and back to the apartment.

So. Finally! A good day and night. That is much better! Almost 11 am now, heading out for breakfast and to start it again.

More later.

JesseJames

[QUOTE=OldNewGuy;1881031]I find this amusing. Now leaving the resort I'll ask the reception where I can find Tu. If they don't know I'll ask security, and so on with the entire Pattaya population (150,000) if necessary.

Unless you expected to be contacted in PM about Tu's fantastic deals.[/QUOTE]My post must have been edited as I included his phone number and that I'd met him on Soi 7. I'm not sure why these details were cut out. Nonetheless, I'd have thought the information on applicable rates would be of assistance to anyone looking to buy these products, whether from Tu or anyone else.

I've been a longtime lurker on the Pattaya as well as other forums on this site and feel like it's about time I finally give something back to the community that has helped me on my journey to becoming a bonafide mongering addict. LOL. I've been to Thailand about a dozen times now, as well as a handful of other Asian countries and will post my experiences on those forums accordingly. I'll try my best to keep this post informative & filled with tips so that newbies as well as experienced mongers can take a little something away from it. Special thanks to Mr. Enternational and Uncle V whose posts I have followed religiously as well as many other members whose names I can't recall now. Thanks to all you guys for your contributions!

I landed in Bangkok pretty late so decided to spend the night before heading to Pattaya the next day.

*TIP: The bus service a floor down from arrivals has buses heading straight to Pattaya for a nominal price of 120 baht. Hourly departures until 12 am After midnight, if you are still keen on heading straight to Pattaya, taxis can be taken for 1300-1400 baht for which you have to negotiate directly with the taxi driver. There are usually people lingering around the bus ticket counter area who will gladly split a cab with you as they have also most likely missed the last bus for the day.

Next day, after some much needed rest and a visit to Natarees massage (will discuss on BKK forum), I head over to Ekkamai bus station and buy a one way ticket to Pattaya for a nominal price of 108 baht. It takes about 2 hours by bus to get there. I hop on a tuk tuk heading towards Beach Road.

*TIP: If you don't have too much luggage, the BTS goes to Ekkamai station from where you can take one of the exits straight to the bus stop. Super convenient and super cheap. If you do have luggage take a cab which is not very expensive either. Once in Pattaya, the tuk tuks standing around at the bus stop usually charge more than the regular tuk tuks. If you exit the bus stop, cross the street and wave down a tuk tuk heading towards Beach Roach, you can catch a ride for the regular 10 baht fare. Also, I noticed a lot of newbies asking tuk tuks for rides & prices and getting way over quoted. Never ever ask a tuk tuk in Pattaya the price of a ride; you will almost always get over quoted. Just hop on a tuk tuk heading in the direction you want to go, and act like you know the drill. Push the buzzer, get off where you want, hand the driver 10 baht and be on your way. If the driver deviates from where you need to go just jump off and catch another tuk tuk heading in your desired direction. Trust me, this will save you a ton of baht. Get a SIM at the airport for around 300 baht with the Internet plan and use google maps if need be. But don't ask tuk tuks for directions & prices. This sets off a newbie alert in their brains and there is no telling what they will try to hustle you for.

I pick up a few beers and a sandwich at a 7/11 near my hotel, check in, freshen up, and hit the streets by 7:30 pm I do a walk by of Soi 6 as I'm staying nearby so I figured I might as well check out the talent. Saw some lookers and made some mental notes but didn't stop as it was my first night and I had my mind set on Walking Street. I get to Beach Road, jump on a tuk tuk and off we go. I was scoping out the talent on Beach Road as we drove by and although the street pickup scene is not generally my thing, I must say I did see some spinners this time around. For the prices quoted on this forum (500-800ST) it might actually be worth a go. Anyways I get to WS, first stop Alcatraz gogo. Semi-decent lineup, nothing to write home about. Ordered a drink, a girl came over and sat next to me (as they do) and started with the "buy me drink" hustle (as they do). As a rookie, I would to entertain this request; now I know better. If you're feeling the chic, and think there is a good chance you will take her home, then by all means treat her to a lady drink or two. However, my advice to newbies would be don't feel obligated to buy the first girl that sits next to you a drink. Tell them to wait. Chat a bit first. Feel them out and take it from there. If they get bitchy or develop an attitude, drop them like a brick and move on, because believe you me, these chics are just looking for a sucker to treat like an ATM machine and if they pick up on weakness, they will take advantage. Anyways, I think the barfine quoted at the time was 1500, ST was 2500, LT was 4000 (way too much IMHO). This is pretty much standard with the top tier gogos these days on WS. After 12, the barfine drops to 800-1000, ST 1500-2000, LT anywhere from 2500-4000 depending on your negotiating skills, how many drinks you've bought for the chic, and how much she is into you.

*TIP: I've found that the later you wait, the more drinks the girls have had = the drunker they are. They may quote you a cheaper price later in the night, however, drunk girls, like drunk guys, can't perform worth shit (in my experience at least). I know this isn't rocket science; just a friendly reminder. Some of these girls are really good at covering up how drunk they actually are so buyer beware!

So I leave Alcatraz after my drink, hit up a few more of the top tier gogos e. G. Skyfall, Sensations for drinks only, chat a bit with a few of the ladies (without buying most a drink, however I must admit in a moment of weakness, I did buy a young cutie in Skyfall a lady drink), and of course, I always enjoy the eye candy of semi-dressed girls (completely nude in some gogos), dancing 10 feet away from your face. I'd also like to add that I'm not saying to go into a gogo and be cheap charlie and never offer to buy a lady drink. You actually can't call a lady over from the stage unless you are going to buy her a drink to chat / negotiate. All I'm saying is these girls are trained to bleed you dry on the lady drinks so you should really be pretty sure about the chic before you start spending top dollar on her. Be smart about it and try not to stick around the gogo if you've made up your mind. Take her out, hit up one of the nightclubs for happy hour or grab a few drinks from 7/11 or Family Mart on your way back to the hotel. I'm not judging or lecturing; just my 2 cents on the matter.

So by now its 11 pm I'm done with the gogo scene. I make my way over to Insomnia disco which has become my go to spot the last couple trips. Just a reminder for those who don't know, iBar, which is also part of the same establishment, is on the ground floor and opens a bit earlier (I think around 7 or 8 maybe). Insomnia, which is upstairs (connected from both inside and outside iBar), opens its doors at 10 pm Both iBar and Insomnia are excellent FL pick up spots. Also, happy hour at iBar is 8 pm-10 pm during which time you can get beers for 39 baht a bottle, which is basically 7/11 prices so you can't go wrong, and most bottom shelf liquors go for 69 baht a drink. I even saw some guys stock up on like a dozen 39 baht beers before the 10 pm cutoff time, which is actually pretty smart if you are going to hang out at iBar for a few hours anyways. So, 11 pm Insomnia is starting to get pretty busy, I order my drink and start scoping out the talent. A few girls catch my attention, chat with each of them a bit, not really feeling the vibe with any, so part ways.

*TIP: Girls that are in groups of 3-4 might may not necessarily be freelancers. They might just be there with friends out to have a good time. If you are alone or with a friend, its best to target girls who are also alone or with 1 friend because they are almost always working girls and looking to get picked up.

So, now it's around 12 pm, I'm on my third drink, chilling out and enjoying the music (BTW Happy Hour in Insomnia is 10 pm-12 pm drinks are not as cheap as the iBar happy hour but still at a discounted rate). The club is getting pretty crowded and even a bit difficult to navigate. I notice a girl in a group of 3. LOL. She's at a table, they have a bottle, so I'm thinking this might be a tough cookie to crack. We exchange looks / smiles. I take that as my Q, find an opening and strike up a conversation. "Whats your name? "Where you from? "How long you stay Pattaya? Same old mundane banter is exchanged. Long story short, we leave for my hotel 15 minutes later at an agreed price of 1500 baht LT. We go at it once in the night, and once in the morning. I will spare you all the meticulous details of our activities, but she was a very easy going chic, open to almost everything I wanted to do, very GFE, all in all a good pull.

*TIP: Try not to tell the girls you pick up exactly how long you are in town for. If anything, say a few months. These girls are constantly sizing you up, thinking about how much they can potentially extract / get over on you for, and they sometimes might even have more vicious intentions in mind if you are just in town for a day or two (but that's rare and maybe I'm just more the paranoid type). Either way, be vague about the duration of your stay. As far as where you are from, that's whatever I guess tell the truth or don't its up to you. Try not to give off a newbie vibe and just act like you know the drill. I know that's easier said than done because I too was once a newbie but as the saying goes, "fake it till you make it". I try not to bring up price in nightclubs, and if the girl does bring it up, I try to deviate and say something like "don't worry about money. You make me happy I make you happy" just so the girl knows this isn't my first rodeo. This usually works 50 percent of the time for me, and if we leave the club without confirming price, I give the girl 1500 baht in the morning after 2-3 goes with her, and if for whatever reason we only go at it once, I'll give her 1000 baht. I have never had a complaint with these amounts. However, the other 50 percent of the time, when the girl insists on confirming a price before leaving, I usually start the bidding with 1000 LT. Most good looking girls will try to start with 2500-3500 LT, however if you start with 1000 and counter with 1500,60% of the girls do agree to this price in my experience. Sometimes, you can stick to your guns on 1000 baht and get your way, sometimes if you are really into the chic and if she just isn't budging you might end up paying a bit more. I've never spent more than 2000 baht on a freelancer from any nightclub LT. Also, if you exchange numbers / line ids with a girl, she will almost always come over for repeat business for at least 500 baht cheaper the next time I. E. If you spend 2000 on a stunner the first night, she will definitely take 1500 the next night, and the 1500 chic will always take 1000 the next night. I've never tried offering a 1000 chic 500 on the second visit because I feel that's kind of pushing it. Maybe she would take 800 but I've never tried to be honest. Percentage wise I would say on the initial pull, I've spent 1000 baht on 20% of the chics, 1500 baht on 60% of the chics, and 2000 baht on 20% of the chics that I've picked up from various nightclubs and discos on Walking Street. But like I said, you can always save a bit of loot on repeat business if you are into the chic and want to see her again. Ranking wise for me, I'the say I've got the best pulls from 1. Insomnia, 2. IBar, 3. 808,4. Mixx. Also, as a side note for you newbies on getting back to the hotel, baht buses can be taken if you make a left right before the entrance to walking street and another left at the intersection with 2nd road (or right if you are heading to jomtien). I'm sure the chic you are with can guide you too as there are a lot of sois you can cut through to get to 2nd road as well. *.

That concludes night one. I just realized this has been way too long so I am going to break up my 6 days in Pattaya into 6 posts. LOL. I hope this has been helpful and stay tuned for days 2-6.

Cheers.

First night in Pattaya and I went to Crazy House for a while and bought a 140 baht drink for myself and a couple 150 LDs. Are there other hands on places like that? The two girls quoted me 2400/2800 for ST and I turned it down. What are the rates at Full Moon Bar? I know Pattaya has cheaper options. Are there any in that area?

If I check it out tomorrow I'll post them if no one knows off hand. Otherwise I guess I can just find a massage place like in BKK (these were 1900-2100 for 90 m and gave you a room) or make the trek to 007 / Club M which I believe are 800 BJ and 1000-1300 for FS but these could be old prices.

After leaving the tailor with JesseJames, I go get fish at my usual lunch spot. As I was leaving I noticed the salon next door did manicures and pedicures. I was actually on my way to my usual place, but decided to try this place instead. Through the window I could see the girl who was working there sitting on the couch with her head down asleep. I knocked on the glass and woke her up. I came around to the door and went inside to ask her how much for manicure, pedicure, and foot scrub. She said 400 baht, same as my regular place. The girl didn't really speak English, but I speak enough Thai to pick up chicks. She started looking good to me so I led a conversation. Found out she is married and her husband lives up north. I asked her if she had a gik (side guy) and she said no. By the end of the service I was telling her that I would be her gik. She kept saying no, only friend. But I kept insisting on gik. I asked what time she got off and she said 10. I said well at 10 I will come get you and we will have a drink in my room. She said it is better to go to a bar. I showed her a picture of all the liquor in my room and told her that it was best to go to the room. She said okay.

I was leaving the salon and headed to the barber shop when I got a message from some friends saying they were at The Hot Spot. This is the place we sit all day and pick up chicks. The barber shop would have to wait. As usual, literally before I could even sit down with my friends I had gotten a chick's number. This place works out so good for us that one of my buddies said he has not even been to Walking Street in 6 months. At 5:50, me JesseJames, and his friend left and went to The Golf Club for steaks. The regular grill master is on vacation and unfortunately the lady who was replacing him can not hold his jock strap on the grill.

After we finished eating I had to run over to Thepprasit market to my mole removal lady. I stopped by home first. My next door neighbor always keeps her door open. I gave her a hello, and told her I was going to run over to Thepprasit. I have to keep the details minimal because she does have a boyfriend that I have met.

I got a great parking spot at the market so I was able to get to my mole lady quickly. She is getting expensive. I remember when she would charge 30 baht to take off a mole. Now she wanted 200 baht to take off the one that I found on my underarm recently. She said she saw a couple more that she would do for free though. When I arrived, she was removing a tattoo from some chick's neck behind her ear. She put that chick on pause so she could do me. I was out of there in about 30 seconds.

I got back home and old girl's door was still open so I asked her what she drank. Seeing that I have about 25 bottles of everything I had her brand. I invited her over for a drink. It was probably about 8:30 then. I kept a look at my watch because I had to pick the girl up from the salon at 10. After two drinks I was thinking that I might end up fucking my neighbor. I hit up my main wingman to ask what he thought about the ethics of the situation. He said well you know she has a boyfriend, and she knows that you know she has a boyfriend. She also knows about all the girls that you bring home. You can't lose with this one.

She was going to the toilet so much that on about her third run I asked her to let me see. She wouldn't though and still went in and locked the door. She kept hollering that you are my brother shit. I said don't put me down as your brother. When she came out I don't know how we got on the subject, but she said she knows how to please herself when her man is away. I asked her to show me that but she would not. Well 10 pm crept past and I was thinking that a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush, so the salon chick would have to wait for another day.

We were five drinks in and I didn't know if I was going to last. I was so freaking sleepy. She was asking me about all the chicks that I bring home and describing them. I was like a deer in headlights. I bring so many chicks home that for me it was like trying to pick gnat shit out of pepper. I didn't know which chicks she was decribing. Somehow we got on the subject of breastfeeding and she was telling me about her tits. (I had already told my wingman that she had small tits, but I could see how big her nipples were through her dress. I told him that I just wanted to suck on them if nothing else.) That was my cue. I said let me see them. She took one out and I grabbed it with my hand to caress it.

Soon there was no turning back. But she made one stipulation. We could only fuck if I would take her out that night. Well that was fine with me because I had planned to go out with JesseJames and his boy anyway. She said good, well I will go get ready. I said hell no. I am horny now. So we fuck first then go out later. Plus it is still too early. She looked at the time and agreed.

This chick was a beast in the sack. She licked me from the rooter to the tooter. At the end she was telling me to cum. I said I am going to cum in your mouth. When we finished it was 12:15.

She said that she was going to get ready and would be back in 45 minutes. Man that chick called me in 15 minutes talking about she was ready. I had not done a thing. I was still on my phone telling my boys about the shit that had just happened. So she came over and sat until I got ready. I have a policy of not shitting where I sleep, but I guess rules are made to be broken; because I sure as hell broke it that night.

We got to the club and I got my usual seat and table. The club was still empty at 1 am. As soon as we sat down, my ex-girlfriend and some chick she was with walked past us to leave out. I grabbed her hand and told her Hello, then introduced her to my neighbor.

I think I wrote about her before. But if not then here goes. She was cashier in a WS agogo. They closed to renovate for 1 month. She got tired of sitting in her room bored so she went to get a job at a beer bar. This girl has been in Pattaya 11 years and did not realize what the town was about until she sat with those bar girls and hearing their stories. (I'm like but didn't you guys even talk in the agogo about this stuff?) Evidently they didn't. We were at lunch in KFC and she was just crying her heart out and saying she was leaving Pattaya and never coming back and so I would never see her again. That was a Saturday in Feb or March. The following Tuesday her sister drove 7 hours from home to get her and all her things. Fast forward to a couple of weeks ago when my wingman was in town and at the Hot Spot. He sent me a message saying he thought he had just seen my girl. I said it could not have been. I sent her a message asking what kind of job she had found back in her home town. That is when she let me know that she had came back to Pattaya and was working in a hotel. She had said how much she missed me and I told her that she could not. Because she said I would never see her again so I have somebody else now. I don't really, but she herself gave me the perfect excuse for breaking it off. She asked if I was angry and I said no. But if I was your sister I would be angry. She drove 7 hours each way for you because you had sworn Pattaya off and two months later your ass ends up right back here.

So back to the club. My neighbor said if I wanted another girl to go ahead and get one. I was fine just chillin. And I was already with a free chick so why would I want to search out a paid one? Finally JesseJames and his boy arrived and I kept trying to throw chicks at them. Whenever a chick would pass me I would grab her by the arm and sling her to him. For 80 million times he would say that is my type. Then the chick that he ended up going with, I don't remember if I did the same thing or he grabbed her himself. I just remember him saying now this is the one. She stuck to him like glue.

Before that though the police had come in and shut off the music and turned on the lights. They had news people with them taking pictures and filming so I took my phone out to take pictures and film too. I like to fuck with them so I told them that my girl had been smoking meth and they needed to test her. He said okay, but was really not paying me any attention. Then when I went to the toilet I saw them with a box of peepee kits and they were testing people. I told them that I had been smoking meth and needed one of those kits. They just laughed at me. Soon they were gone, but not before half the patrons had already run out.

I guess it was about 4 am when me and my neighbor left and went back home. Back to fucking we went. She also woke me up at 1 pm with her mouth around my dick. Then last night she made food for me and said she would cook for me again today.

Mr. E,

Anyway I could get additional info on your mole removal lady at the Thepprasit Mkt? I've just come across a few new ones myself.

That I would like to have removed. I live in the Jomtien area and that would be a stones throw away. Appreciate it.

Thanks for this report. It is chock full of useful information: prices, tips, names of particular establishments. Well done. And it's always nice to see someone move out from lurking in the shadows and submit something to the forum.

[QUOTE=LosAddict;1883959]I landed in Bangkok pretty late so decided to spend the night before heading to Pattaya the next day.[/QUOTE]Smart move. It always amazes me how some people take that taxi right down to Patts, after a 20 hour flight! I guess if you are pressed for time, or your balls look like something out of Avatar, you just need to get down there and release. To each his own.

I have only one minor correction. I think when you say "tuk tuk", as in:

[QUOTE=LosAddict;1883959]If you exit the bus stop, cross the street and wave down a [b]tuk tuk[/b] heading towards Beach Roach, you can catch a ride for the regular 10 baht fare. Also, I noticed a lot of newbies asking [b]tuk tuks[/b] for rides & prices and getting way over quoted. Never ever ask a [b]tuk tuk[/b] in Pattaya the price of a ride; you will almost always get over quoted. Just hop on a [b]tuk tuk[/b] heading in the direction you want to go, and act like you know the drill. Push the buzzer, get off where you want, hand the driver 10 baht and be on your way. If the driver deviates from where you need to go just jump off and catch another [b]tuk tuk[/b] heading in your desired direction. Trust me, this will save you a ton of baht. Get a SIM at the airport for around 300 baht with the Internet plan and use google maps if need be. But don't ask [b]tuk tuks[/b] for directions & prices. This sets off a newbie alert in their brains and there is no telling what they will try to hustle you for. [/QUOTE]You mean [B]baht bus[/B]. Tuk tuks are the three wheel jobs with space for 2-3 people in the back, otherwise referred to as a motorized rickshaw.

I very much look forward to your Bangkok post. I'm sure it will be just as informative and helpful.

[QUOTE=LosAddict;1883959]I've been a longtime lurker on the Pattaya as well as other forums on this site and feel like it's about time I finally give something back to the community that has helped me on my journey to becoming a bonafide mongering addict. LOL. I've been to Thailand about a dozen times now, as well as a handful of other Asian countries and will post my experiences on those forums accordingly. I'll try my best to keep this post informative & filled with tips so that newbies as well as experienced mongers can take a little something away from it. Special thanks to Mr. Enternational and Uncle V whose posts I have followed religiously as well as many other members whose names I can't recall now. Thanks to all you guys for your contributions!


*TIP: Girls that are in groups of 3-4 might may not necessarily be freelancers. They might just be there with friends out to have a good time. If you are alone or with a friend, its best to target girls who are also alone or with 1 friend because they are almost always working girls and looking to get picked up.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the kind words. This is a great first report with some very useful info.

I would just add a couple of things:

1) You can get a taxi to Pattaya for 1 K baht flat fee. Google Mr Virach Pattaya Taxi.

2) you are right that girls congregating in groups are not necessarily freelancers and may be out with friends. But it is a very fine line between p4 p and being just out on the town. I really think that 90% are available (of course not to everyone). That does not necessarily mean you have to be rude or even direct. Just be nice and approach her like you would a girl in a non p4 p situation. And remember just because they are available does not mean they will go with you. Be respectful and take no for an answer (some guys can't take a hint). There is no need to be rattled by rejection. It happens to everybody, even the hansumest of "hansum men".

I have found that at Ibar / Insomnia, if she is willing to talk to you and hang out then she will also go with you. I have never had a bad experience of buying a girl drinks and then being left high and dry.

But then again I don't like to park myself at a table with a bottle. I'ts not that I am cheap I just like the freedom to roam around. Especially when it gets crowded. So YMMV.

Actually, I'd be curious to hear about other guy's experiences getting bottles. Has it worked for you? How to best play it? I did it once with a friend. We had a pretty good table but I was nto attracted to the girls around us. I felt like we had painted ourselves into a corner as the place filled up.

And what about the "Vip" area?

I am always up for trying new tactics if they work. And I am ready to spend a little extra to have a good time.

LosAddict, thanks again for taking the time to write up a FR. I look forward to reading your posts.

And stay horny my friend.

Uncle-V.

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Smart move. It always amazes me how some people take that taxi right down to Patts, after a 20 hour flight! I guess if you are pressed for time, or your balls look like something out of Avatar, you just need to get down there and release. To each his own.
[/QUOTE]Kumbu you always have a way with words!

SO happy you are back on the boards. And I am so lookign forward to your next FR, my friend. Pm me with the details. Maybe we can meet up??

I never see a thick thighed girl without thinking of your lengthy discussions of the joys of "leg meat". 555.

[QUOTE=AussieFella;1883880]My post must have been edited as I included his phone number and that I'd met him on Soi 7. I'm not sure why these details were cut out.[/QUOTE]Oh OK, I'm sorry then, I should have imagined that was the case.

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2) you are right that girls congregating in groups are not necessarily freelancers and may be out with friends. But it is a very fine line between p4 p and being just out on the town. I really think that 90% are available (of course not to everyone). [/QUOTE]You are correct, but always remember that if they come to a foreigner only / notoriously P4 P club, there is a reason and is not because it's cheaper or cooler (which is not). Girls that that just go out the normal way go to a normal Thai bar or club. The ones that come to these places actually do hope to get to know a foreigner. I say hope because in most cases they are ugly, otherwise they would have got already a boyfriend, Thai or foreigner. But as you said, if there is a pretty one she may not be available, and have been convinced to join just to make the table more attractive to strangers. In many years of doing Thai disco I found that very rarely women do things without a good reason.

[quote]I have found that at Ibar / Insomnia, if she is willing to talk to you and hang out then she will also go with you. I have never had a bad experience of buying a girl drinks and then being left high and dry.[/quote]More than that. If she only wants to hang out / dance or whatever, she will tell right away. The good looking ones are not there to have people pay drinks for nothing, that's a Western and Russian specialty. Few nights ago I danced and had fun with very hot, non-resident lady at I. She said from the onset she was not available, but I guess it was better for her to have a male at the table anyway. She was friendly and smiling al the time, did not ask me to buy anything, she had plenty of money. We joked about how much her friend should have got from the young man that approached, I said 2K minimum, they approved enthusiastically launching high-five. That is the ethics of the good ones.

Are ladyboys mixed in with real girls on Soi 7 beer gardens? Even a few of the masseuses don't look like genuine women. I know to avoid Soi 6/1 and Bukhao. Should I avoid all beer gardens altogether not near walking street?