Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Tochka;3013646]Visited Abbobora; it was the receptionist's birthday. They made the introductions and presentations. First up was Sasha, a tall, sexy blonde who had just turned 20. No kids. She is top-shelf pre-SCANDALLO garota before going the scandallo route. Natural booobs. I quickly told the receptionist he wanted her first. I made sure to get her before other mofos came looking for sexy young talent.

Damn, had to double-check cute hair, blonde top and blonde bottom, blue eyes, and pretty face weren't Ukrainian or Russian. And not fake blonde. From the salon.

I invited her and another girl for a double session. Young, athletic blondes are fun once in a while.

We had an hour-long session.

Incredible performance in bed. Sport fcking lots of energy.

Repeat.[/QUOTE]One odd process. I went to the hotel room next door to Abbobara pay for the room & the girls. After paying the forista rate via credit card.

The receptionist gave me $250 reais in cash to give each garota. She placed $500 brl on the counter in cash, $250 in each stack with the expectation.

For me To give the dinheiro directly to each garota in the room. Hmm I don't remember this paying garota directly using dinheiro from receptionist.

Well of course I got their Wassap to meet up later and cut out the middleman and overhead.

Scandallo increased its entry price by 100 reais? That's pretty much bullshit. Sure $20 USD isn't going to bankrupt any of us but at the same time they're fucking increasing these prices rapidly. Just from 2021 to now this must be at least their 3rd or 4th price increase.

Wonder if the entry fee for the working girls is also increased as well.

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The next two nights I spent at Scandallo with Annagie and SocratesNY. Big shout out to them for how welcoming they were as well as a couple other lesser known ISGers that I met. Overall good times at Scandallo. The first night I arrived after 7 pm and they had a band, I believe I paid 800 r (more for band nights), of which 500 r was consumption. There were easily 200+ girls and maybe 100 guys. I had a bit of analysis paralysis, but eventually settled down and started negotiations. Me being myself, I only went for the classic blonde beauties and none would go lower than 1500 for ST. I got a few numbers, but pride took over and I went home empty handed that night (stuck to 1200 ceiling). The next night I arrived before 7 pm, which is 300 r (as I recall) all consumable. Of note, I had bought a bottle the prior night ( 780 r) and they retried it for me). I continued to party with the others and found a nice light mulatta for which I agreed 2500 r all night, all holes (she offered LOL). Her exit fee was an additional 400 r. I ran into a little issue at the exit as she at first wanted me to pay her upfront at Scandallo via CC (would be 2750), I of course wanted to pay via cash afterwards (10% less). This became a bigger issue in the apartment as she insisted that I pay her upfront and wouldn't even agree to 1/2 before and 1/2 after. Started crying and everything (of note, I've never had a prepago cry with me and that sucked). We eventually reconcile and have decent sex although it was a serious libido killer. She says she'll make it up to me in the future.
[/QUOTE]It was nice meeting you. I was one of those lesser known ISGers 😉.

Event days usually are very crowded and with expensive entry, so I tend to avoid those days unless I am meeting friends.

Your pre-payment story reminds me of my recent experience with Scan girl Tatiyana during my trip end of May.

None of the Scan girls asked me for prepayment except Tatiyana. The only question every other girl I took out from Scan or the person settled the bill asked me was 'How I would pay the girl? 'dinero' was always my response and that usually was the end of the conversation about the topic. I am always prepared to cancel the takeout if the girl insists on pre-payment. Tatiyana asked for prepayment while the bill was being settled. I told the person settling the bill that I would pay in cash when she leaves next morning at the agreed upon time and I would cancel the takeout if she insists of prepayment. Tatiyana quickly agreed to receive payment after, and we went off to my hotel in Moema.

The moment we walk into my hotel she asked for payment. I reminded her that she agreed for payment afterwards and she could leave if she insists of pre-payment. She asked me if I really want her to leave. I replied yes. She asks me 2 more times with a sad face. I told her that I would give her are $500 before and rest after for which she agreed with big smile. I don't get it, this prepayment insisting hoes get a kick out of getting some payment, I guess. Everything went well after that, but I don't think I am interested in seeing her again based on her behavior.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013301]I've had issues with the 3 Gauguin girls I've done overnight so I suggest doing it in house. It may be me, but I think they like to take advantage of gringos (we're very common in area given proximity to business and WTC).
[/QUOTE]Looks like Gauguin is full of scammers. I am guessing the Gauguin management don't give a shit about customers being scammed by the girls work there. This sort of shenanigans wouldn't fly at Scan and that is why the most girls there don't pull this kind of shit. Gauguin is on my list of places to visit, but I am reconsidering after reading your experience.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013688]Scandallo increased its entry price by 100 reais? That's pretty much bullshit. Sure $20 USD isn't going to bankrupt any of us but at the same time they're fucking increasing these prices rapidly. Just from 2021 to now this must be at least their 3rd or 4th price increase.
[/QUOTE]Yes, the entry fee has been increased to are $400 from last week of June, which is all consumable, if you arrive before 7 pm and are $200 if you arrive after 7 pm.

Exit fee is now $400 and the room fee is now $350 (increased by are $50. I was told).

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Wonder if the entry fee for the working girls is also increased as well.[/QUOTE]Probably. Most girls avoid paying that fee by working 5 days a week.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3013693]Yes, the entry fee has been increased to are $400 from last week of June, which is all consumable, if you arrive before 7 pm and are $200 if you arrive after 7 pm.

Exit fee is now $400 and the room fee is now $350 (increased by are $50. I was told).

Probably. Most girls avoid paying that fee by working 5 days a week.[/QUOTE]The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.

And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.

I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013704]The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.

And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.

I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]If last year's NFL and F1 season at Scandallo is any indication expect prices to jump. Bros coming to São Paulo first time, no porto, English only, were agreeing to 3 mil & 4 mil an hour session. They were losing their fvcking minds as garotas from all over Brasil came in for NFL and F1 week. Shit Scandallo opened on Sunday to accommodate the rain of money from bros that didn't know or care about 3 mil 4 mil one hour session with the hottest garotas flooding in from the entire country trying to get a baller.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013704]The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.

And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.

I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]That's my biggest gripe with the popular clubs (not just in Brazil): the prices keep going up every year while the quality doesn't. If you're new to a city, it's worth a visit once, but you can find better and cheaper options elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Tochka;3013718]If last year's NFL and F1 season at Scandallo is any indication expect prices to jump. Bros coming to So Paulo first time, no porto, English only, were agreeing to 3 mil & 4 mil an hour session. They were losing their fvcking minds as garotas from all over Brasil came in for NFL and F1 week. Shit Scandallo opened on Sunday to accommodate the rain of money from bros that didn't know or care about 3 mil 4 mil one hour session with the hottest garotas flooding in from the entire country trying to get a baller.[/QUOTE]There's too many stupid people with money if people were paying 3 and 4 mil an hour for sessions in Brazil. You can get top notch girls in the hobbying scene in LOS Angeles, New York, Miami etc for that price. Why even fly all the way out to Brazil for that? Like I said, there's unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) too many people with money these days. Perhaps lot of crypto bros that became rich overnight and don't really know what to do with their gains. Unless the ones paying these prices are just all families of NFL players or the players themselves who make $10-20 M / yr doing this, then sure all bets are off.

I know this happens though and that's why I've always avoided F1 week. But now I know that the NFL game week is like that too so will avoid that as well.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013704]The entry fee is now 600 reais with 400 reais consumable if you arrive after 7 pm. So that's basically $110 USD cover. Granted sure you can have your dinner and drinks with the 400 consumable and all but still.

And wow the room fee was 250 reais the last time I session'd at Scandallo which hasn't been more than a year away. And the room fee and exit fee used to be the same amount, I thought that was the whole point of it.

I think the greed of the owners will eventually lead to the demise of this otherwise great establishment. Hopefully some other boate takes advantage and offers more fair entry pricing and room / exit fee and such. I'll deal with the expensive drink prices and expensive food prices (which is so pricey that you can easily surpass the consumable after buying just a very few drinks for chicks) but them raising the entry fee and exit fee and all like this is just crazy to me. $110 usd is the price of a session with a high caliber chica in many places around the world (Colombia, Mexico etc). I prefer Brazil but still. Hell that's basically 3 sessions at a clinica in Moema. I wonder if we will see 1000 reais entry fee at Scandallo in maybe 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]It is definitely getting pricy. Entry for event days might hit that 1 K mark soon, if not already.

The prices Scan girls are asking have steadily gone up and probably will go up further after this entry fee increase. This will increase the number of men that visit the place just to handout with friends, eat, drink and go somewhere else to find pussy. Which translates to more and more Scan girls going empty handed.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3013775]It is definitely getting pricy. Entry for event days might hit that 1 K mark soon, if not already.

The prices Scan girls are asking have steadily gone up and probably will go up further after this entry fee increase. This will increase the number of men that visit the place just to handout with friends, eat, drink and go somewhere else to find pussy. Which translates to more and more Scan girls going empty handed.[/QUOTE]The way I see it for about ten years between 2002 and around 2012 I fucked the hottest girls on the planet in German FKKs for EUR 100 per hour so I've been there done that. No need for me to go chasing the hottest girls around now spending hundreds of dollars overseas on a session with girls who are no where near the looks of girls I have banged in the past. From my experience after around 2012 looks of hookers began to decline worldwide.

[QUOTE=Turgid;3013784]The way I see it for about ten years between 2002 and around 2012 I fucked the hottest girls on the planet in German FKKs for EUR 100 per hour so I've been there done that. No need for me to go chasing the hottest girls around now spending hundreds of dollars overseas on a session with girls who are no where near the looks of girls I have banged in the past. From my experience after around 2012 looks of hookers began to decline worldwide.[/QUOTE]I started visited FKKs in 2012 as it stared declining because lot of German / Duch / Polish / Russian girls complaining about Romanian girls flooding the clubs which kept the price at 50 Euro for a long time and eventually stop working in the clubs. At Goldentime the 1st hour was 75 Euro and the subsequent hours are just 50 Euros. Those were unbelievable prices for amazing service girls provided then. Now German FKKs have become shit with girls demanding 200+ Euros per hour for provide mediocre service. You could upgrade to average service for 100 Euro upcharge 😔.

Like with FKKs, I guess, I caught the tail end of Brazil scene when I started visiting in 2019. Since then, the prices have gone up considerably and the quality of the girls gone down.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3013801]I started visited FKKs in 2012 as it stared declining because lot of German / Duch / Polish / Russian girls complaining about Romanian girls flooding the clubs which kept the price at 50 Euro for a long time and eventually stop working in the clubs. At Goldentime the 1st hour was 75 Euro and the subsequent hours are just 50 Euros. Those were unbelievable prices for amazing service girls provided then. Now German FKKs have become shit with girls demanding 200+ Euros per hour for provide mediocre service. You could upgrade to average service for 100 Euro upcharge 😔.

Like with FKKs, I guess, I caught the tail end of Brazil scene when I started visiting in 2019. Since then, the prices have gone up considerably and the quality of the girls gone down.[/QUOTE]I don't think there is a market in the world where the price has not gone up.

Do I wish I could get primo pussy for less than 100 USD? Sure. Did that exist somewhere in the 2010's? Or the 2000's? Maybe in the 90's? Sure.

But complaining about inflation, or geo-economics, sex laws, or onlyfans or whatever scapegoat we want to blame is really fruitless.

The best one can do it keep their ear to the ground. Read these forums. And follow-your nose.

Soa Paulo and the FKK-lands still represent some of the best hunting grounds on the planet.

I honestly don't have a big problem with consumable going up. This is just saying don't come in here and not spend money. And since I do spend money it's fine for me. I cant recall exiting Scandallo with less than 1000 R bar tab. And for others it encourages use of the restaurant to eat the consumables. And frankly the food is really good.

But yeah I hope they aren't taxing the garotas. There is a strip club where I live that was bought by Ricks. They raised single song lap dances to $40. Wtf? No one is paying that. We go there often for drinks and ogling but no fucking way I'm taking a girl and I'm a high roller. It's just fucking wrong. So the club makes drink money and the girls starve because no one will buy a dance. Really sucks. Will definitely cause club failure in the next couple years as girls will stay away.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013774] There are too many stupid people with money if people were paying 3 and 4 mil an hour for sessions in Brazil. You can get top-notch girls in the hobbying scene in LOS Angeles, New York, Miami, etc for that price. Why even fly all the way out to Brazil for that? Like I said, there are unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) too many people with money these days. Perhaps a lot of crypto bros who became rich overnight don't know what to do with their gains. Unless the ones paying these prices are just all families of NFL players or the players themselves who make $10-20 M / yr doing this, then sure all bets are off.

I know this happens though and that's why I've always avoided F1 week. But now I know that the NFL game week is like that too so I will avoid that as well.[/QUOTE]Yeah, last year NFL week was everywhere. Ads in CGH airports, boats, bars all looking for those Philly NFL ballers and fans. They figure if you can pay $1 mil brl to $2 mil brl to buy a ticket for an NFL away game, plus airfare, travel 9+ hours to Sao Paulo, BTW watch hotel & Airbnb rates bump up too. Then bros paying $3 mil brl $4 mil brl a session is a reason enough for top of the market Scandallo to raise entry prices, raining money for them. I watched from near the DJ booth upstairs in Scandallo, all the Google Translate deals going on. I just shook my head, bounced after the game was over on the big screen, and hoped like hell the pricing would revert to "normal" the following month.

Its been mentioned before but many guys can be a one time baller for a weekend or week in scandallo.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3013807]I honestly don't have a big problem with consumable going up. This is just saying don't come in here and not spend money. And since I do spend money it's fine for me. I cant recall exiting Scandallo with less than 1000 R bar tab. And for others it encourages use of the restaurant to eat the consumables. And frankly the food is really good.

But yeah I hope they aren't taxing the garotas. There is a strip club where I live that was bought by Ricks. They raised single song lap dances to $40. Wtf? No one is paying that. We go there often for drinks and ogling but no fucking way I'm taking a girl and I'm a high roller. It's just fucking wrong. So the club makes drink money and the girls starve because no one will buy a dance. Really sucks. Will definitely cause club failure in the next couple years as girls will stay away.[/QUOTE]They raised it to $40 a dance at least two decades ago in the town I used to live in. So, my question would be WTH took so long? And bozos were paying it too! No telling what it is now. And they don't even play full songs per dance. Like half a song! I just can't bring myself to patronize an American strip club anymore. It's such a rip off where you're not supposed to touch and "PC" girls get ticked off if you pop a boner while they grind on you! What a fucking joke! Have passport. Will travel!