Sao Paulo Reports

[QUOTE=Lalabo;3013690]It was nice meeting you. I was one of those lesser known ISGers 😉....

Your pre-payment story reminds me of my recent experience with Scan girl Tatiyana during my trip end of May.

None of the Scan girls asked me for prepayment except Tatiyana.....

The moment we walk into my hotel she asked for payment. I reminded her that she agreed for payment afterwards and she could leave if she insists of pre-payment....

....Looks like Gauguin is full of scammers. I am guessing the Gauguin management don't give a shit about customers being scammed by the girls work there. [/QUOTE]Yes, I should have cancelled at the exit, but she said that she'd been working at Scandallo for 6 months and everyone she'd been with paid by CC prior. It was my first time taking a Scandallo girl LT, but so against my normal procedure that I wasn't sure what to think!

At the apartment she again asked for it upfront and then pulled the crying card stating that she'd been called a lot of things, but wasn't a liar.

I think Gauguin is for the girls that can't hack it at Scandallo or handle it one way or the other. I think you have a good number of girls who are just looking for some quick cash. The bartenders seemed ok, but the front desk gave pretty poor service. They didn't speak any English and refused to slow down their Porto cadence so that I could understand when I asked about a couple items on the bill. They wouldn't do google translate either. It did turn out that all charges were correct during my visits, but was annoying that they wouldn't explain.

[QUOTE=Trojan22;3013774]There's too many stupid people with money if people were paying 3 and 4 mil an hour for sessions in Brazil. You can get top notch girls in the hobbying scene in LOS Angeles, New York, Miami etc for that price. Why even fly all the way out to Brazil for that? Like I said, there's unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at it) too many people with money these days. Perhaps lot of crypto bros that became rich overnight and don't really know what to do with their gains. Unless the ones paying these prices are just all families of NFL players or the players themselves who make $10-20 M / yr doing this, then sure all bets are off.

I know this happens though and that's why I've always avoided F1 week. But now I know that the NFL game week is like that too so will avoid that as well.[/QUOTE]I was at 57 Friends last year during NFL Week and a guy told me that he budgeted $800 / day for the week beyond his accommodation (for food, drinks, girls). He later shared that he was a Costco warehouse worker. No shade on those hard working people, but I was like damn. He can't have that much money and is probably spending all of his savings from the past year in a week!

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3013807]I honestly don't have a big problem with consumable going up. This is just saying don't come in here and not spend money. And since I do spend money it's fine for me. I cant recall exiting Scandallo with less than 1000 R bar tab. And for others it encourages use of the restaurant to eat the consumables. And frankly the food is really good.

But yeah I hope they aren't taxing the garotas. There is a strip club where I live that was bought by Ricks. They raised single song lap dances to $40. Wtf? No one is paying that. We go there often for drinks and ogling but no fucking way I'm taking a girl and I'm a high roller. It's just fucking wrong. So the club makes drink money and the girls starve because no one will buy a dance. Really sucks. Will definitely cause club failure in the next couple years as girls will stay away.[/QUOTE]Same here. I don't have an issue with the consumable going up since I was going to spend the money anyway. A bottle of gin is 750 are and dinner for myself is close to 300 are and then you have add in the mixers. So easily 1200 without any effort. I don't live in a big city so I don't know how much it costs to go out in NYC / MIA / LA or Las Vegas but I am pretty sure it is pretty similar. This club wants spenders and does its part to attract them. If you aren't a spender, the club doesn't really want people like you. So they price it higher to keep the riff raff out. People in this forum need to understand that we are a very tiny percentage of the clients the club attracts so if we don't go, it doesn't even make a slight dent in the bottom line of the club.

Unfortunately, the girl entry price went up to 400 as did the "saida". Again, I ain't going to * about the 100 are extra and I am pretty sure neither are the regular clients of the club. Just the cost of doing business. If girls don't want to pay the 400, they can work 5 days a week to avoid it. Just like my employee has to work 5 days a week to keep his job. If they have the ability to make more than normal, they can pay the fine. Really makes no difference in my book. I am sure there would be an amount where I would think twice about paying the "saida" and thankfully I haven't reached that yet.

After this past trip, I can now state that the quality and quantity of girls at Scandello just doesn't compare. I usually never hit the other clubs or clinicas since I don't spend too many days in SP but this time I did. Let's stop throwing the bullshit that the girls are of similar quality no they are fucking not. The good thing about SP is that there is something for everyone from the super high class girls who don't even work at Scandello to the skinny crack working girls working the streets at crackolandia. Just figure out where you want to be and do that.

Talking about F1 and NFL, what can you expect when you bring world class events to a city that has serious cash and big players? Of course, prices are going up and people want to earn as much as possible. Nothing wrong in that. I was there last year during NFL weekend and was annoyed that my upgrade didn't clear but the hotel was fully booked so I didn't expect an upgrade. So guess what I did this year. I just moved my reservation back one week for both September and November. Now I don't have to deal with that bullshit and will pay normal rates. Simple. If I wanted to see the game or partake in the activities, then I would just have to pay more. I did that during World Cup in Brazil and would probably never do it again.

We all need to be grateful that we have access to the girls of Brazil especially So Paulo because after a total shitshow of talent in BA, I definitly am grateful for the wonderful country of Brazil!!

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013301]

The next two nights I spent at Scandallo with Annagie and SocratesNY. Big shout out to them for how welcoming they were as well as a couple other lesser known ISGers that I met. Overall good times at Scandallo. The first night I arrived after 7 pm and they had a band, I believe I paid 800 r (more for band nights), of which 500 r was consumption. There were easily 200+ girls and maybe 100 guys. I had a bit of analysis paralysis, but eventually settled down and started negotiations. Me being myself, I only went for the classic blonde beauties and none would go lower than 1500 for ST. I got a few numbers, but pride took over and I went home empty handed that night (stuck to 1200 ceiling). The next night I arrived before 7 pm, which is 300 r (as I recall) all consumable. Of note, I had bought a bottle the prior night ( 780 r) and they retried it for me). I continued to party with the others and found a nice light mulatta for which I agreed 2500 r all night, all holes (she offered LOL). Her exit fee was an additional 400 r. I ran into a little issue at the exit as she at first wanted me to pay her upfront at Scandallo via CC (would be 2750), I of course wanted to pay via cash afterwards (10% less). This became a bigger issue in the apartment as she insisted that I pay her upfront and wouldn't even agree to 1/2 before and 1/2 after. Started crying and everything (of note, I've never had a prepago cry with me and that sucked). We eventually reconcile and have decent sex although it was a serious libido killer. She says she'll make it up to me in the future.


-Chicago.[/QUOTE]Wow, 2500 R for over night. Thats crazy. Thats way over price.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3013868]Wow, 2500 R for over night. Thats crazy. Thats way over price.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I think 1500-2000 used to be normal for LT and 800-1000 for ST, but prices have gone up considerably. For what it's worth it was all holes and the 4 ISGers with me said she was smoking' and worth it when I vacillated.

What have you paid recently from Scandallo LT? You seem like someone who must go a lot to have a strong opinion. For non-Scandallo I pay anywhere from 800 to 1500 for LT, but usually do ST.

You can't compare Sao Paulo prices to Sosua, Medellin, or Pattaya, that's for sure!

[QUOTE=FakeIt;3013803]I don't think there is a market in the world where the price has not gone up.

Do I wish I could get primo pussy for less than 100 USD? Sure. Did that exist somewhere in the 2010's? Or the 2000's? Maybe in the 90's? Sure.

But complaining about inflation, or geo-economics, sex laws, or onlyfans or whatever scapegoat we want to blame is really fruitless.

The best one can do it keep their ear to the ground. Read these forums. And follow-your nose.

Soa Paulo and the FKK-lands still represent some of the best hunting grounds on the planet.[/QUOTE]What part of my post was complaint? Maybe you and some of the forum members should try to distinguish between someone complaining and someone sharing information, facts and observations.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013869]Agreed. I think 1500-2000 used to be normal for LT and 800-1000 for ST, but prices have gone up considerably. For what it's worth it was all holes and the 4 ISGers with me said she was smoking' and worth it when I vacillated.

What have you paid recently from Scandallo LT? You seem like someone who must go a lot to have a strong opinion. For non-Scandallo I pay anywhere from 800 to 1500 for LT, but usually do ST.

You can't compare Sao Paulo prices to Sosua, Medellin, or Pattaya, that's for sure![/QUOTE]The last 2 trips to Sao Paola, I went to Scandolla but did not take any thing up. We will always go to Casera after Scandola. I usually take a girl in Casera. I like darker and thicker females. I rarely see any in Scandolla. I like drinking and hanging out in Scandolla. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. The most I'm willing to pay is 1000 R ST.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3013874]The last 2 trips to Sao Paola, I went to Scandolla but did not take any thing up. We will always go to Casera after Scandola. I usually take a girl in Casera. I like darker and thicker females. I rarely see any in Scandolla. I like drinking and hanging out in Scandolla. I'm going to Sao Paulo in September. The most I'm willing to pay is 1000 R ST.[/QUOTE]Yes, that makes sense for ST. My limit is generally 1200, but the conventional hot blonde ones all started at 2500-3000 before settling at 1500. I went home with my dick in hand the one night as I didn't lower. Hopefully you have better luck.

The 2500 was LT from 12 am to 9 am. Still a lot I think, but not comparable at all to your 1000ST. At Casarao I've never paid more than 600 r for ST. I just hate that it starts so late. And as most of us know, the darker and thick women are much cheaper than the thinner and lighter ones.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013869] What have you paid recently from Scandallo LT?[/QUOTE]1500 to 2000 overnight until mid-morning to late afternoon. Actually, exactly 1500 or 2000.

For other clubs, consistently 1000 and on two occasions, 1200. At the other clubs, there seemed to be a tendency to leave earlier in the morning.

I'll add, this isn't based on grinding away with negotiations. I pick someone and the amount was always in the range, with one exception, as of the last two months. In the one case, she instantly agreed when I countered to the original offer. She was lovely. We spent many nights together.

[QUOTE=Hanzonamura;3013880]1500 to 2000 overnight until mid-morning to late afternoon. Actually, exactly 1500 or 2000.

For other clubs, consistently 1000 and on two occasions, 1200. At the other clubs, there seemed to be a tendency to leave earlier in the morning.

I'll add, this isn't based on grinding away with negotiations. I pick someone and the amount was always in the range, with one exception, as of the last two months. In the one case, she instantly agreed when I countered to the original offer. She was lovely. We spent many nights together.[/QUOTE]Got it. My prices aren't too far off with more recent inflation. I rarely do more than one counter offer as extended negotiations are a turnoff for both parties. One of the girls (young blonde from Curitiba) wouldn't go lower than 1700 for ST and when I jokingly threw out 1500, said 'only 30 minutes. ; I was like WTF. I didn't even know that was an option LOL.

Despite speaking some decent Portuguese and being a tall / fit mid 40's, I find that I pay more than many guys for some reason. I can only venture that I have the look of a classic 'rich' gringo and am too nice to the girls. (i. e. Someone to be exploited kkk.) I also tend to pull earlier around 11:30 pm / 12 am. This 2 am stuff isn't for me. I do regularly get much better rates on future meet ups (Scandallo girl did 1500 the second time for 8pm-8am) and the occasional freebies with girls looking to lock me down as a BF. OF course this is usually tied to a nicer restaurant date.

[QUOTE=Rahsta;3013874]...... I like darker and thicker females......[/QUOTE]You must be very happy in today's mongering world.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013955]One of the girls (young blonde from Curitiba) wouldn't go lower than 1700 for ST and when I jokingly threw out 1500, said 'only 30 minutes.[/QUOTE]I stayed in Curitiba last year. The best looking girl who is a real blonde with blue eyes in the boate asked for 700 or 800 that is basically the standard pricing. There was one girl who has worked in Scandello and wasn't even that attractive asked for 100 more. Because Curitiba is so small so I got to know most of the places and many girls. Some work in casa charging less than 200 an hour. Some work in the boate or high end clinica charging around 700 to 800. Some would go to the freelancer clubs after work and charging more or less the same. It was about 500 when I was there if I remember the number correctly. I talked to the manager and he confirmed the number to me as well.

I also dated a SB in Sao Paulo last year who was also from Curitiba. She speaks 4 languages fluently. She made 2500 a month and the job was in an abusive environment so she quitted her job to try to become an actress or model.

[QUOTE=FakeIt;3013803]I don't think there is a market in the world where the price has not gone up..[/QUOTE]It depends on market segment. In Bangkok, go go has gone up. I went to a gogo, and they want to charge me for asking the girl to sit with me. LOL. Thermae or the street girls do not seem to have changed much. I even met a girl from Georgia (Europe) on soi 11 wanting only 3000. The viets are charging 2500 or less. KTVs in Vietnam have gone up. Do you see the common theme here? You are not going to see the type of prices mentioned here if you go to less popular cities in Brazil.

[QUOTE=Nounce;3014057]I stayed in Curitiba last year. The best looking girl who is a real blonde with blue eyes in the boate asked for 700 or 800 that is basically the standard pricing. There was one girl who has worked in Scandello and wasn't even that attractive asked for 100 more. Because Curitiba is so small so I got to know most of the places and many girls. Some work in casa charging less than 200 an hour. Some work in the boate or high end clinica charging around 700 to 800. Some would go to the freelancer clubs after work and charging more or less the same. It was about 500 when I was there if I remember the number correctly. I talked to the manager and he confirmed the number to me as well. I also dated a SB in Sao Paulo last year who was also from Curitiba. She speaks 4 languages fluently. She made 2500 a month and the job was in an abusive environment so she quitted her job to try to become an actress or model.[/QUOTE]In Curitiba earlier this year, I found that from around 600 to 800 reals depending would get the deal done for an hour session in most cases at the more popular boates.

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3013879]Yes, that makes sense for ST. My limit is generally 1200, but the conventional hot blonde ones all started at 2500-3000 before settling at 1500. I went home with my dick in hand the one night as I didn't lower. Hopefully you have better luck.

The 2500 was LT from 12 am to 9 am. Still a lot I think, but not comparable at all to your 1000ST. At Casarao I've never paid more than 600 r for ST. I just hate that it starts so late. And as most of us know, the darker and thick women are much cheaper than the thinner and lighter ones.[/QUOTE]Wow, 600 for a girl at Casarao. The most I ever paid was 300. Never knew those thinner and lighter chicks where charging that much.