Jakarta

Been loyal custumer of classic for past 12 years, I have seen and heared everything. Pardon my English Grammer as English is not my first language.

Almost all girls at classic are at there at their will cause spreading legs for an hour is better than working 10 to 12 hours odd job, there are some who use classic as stepping stone to go abroad, Tempary in between jobs, paying off brother or father debt or run away from home.

How many girls at the bars, clubs, online told you painful traumatic stories? They all have stories cooked up for you feel bad for them, squeeze money without putting any work.

I work 8 to 10 hours a day on my feet, at the end of the day I barely can stand and in pain from hard work, I earn my money very very hard way.

More power you OP giving his money away for free cause some working girl initially agreed to have sex, and later express her traumatic past.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;2977858]"Almost all"? You mean there are some who are not there for money, but instead are there because they can't get enough dick in their life otherwise?

I'm sure bad stuff happens to these girls sometimes. Classic is not the place for girls to invent trauma, and my bet is on something happening to this girl.

He was not made a fool, but rather did a good thing. Probably better than most of us would have done. ArnoldNe, my respect, and drinks on me if we ever happen to be in Jakarta / Classic at the same time.[/QUOTE]

Day time went to Chinatown for lunch at a couple places. Sampled street food and fruits at markets. Food was greasy but good.

Went back to the huge National Mosque and the equally huge Orthodox church but with taller bell tower across the treet. Grabbikes are cheap, about $1 a ride everywhere. Traffic was very bad. Dust and smoke blew hard. In the filthy sewage canals blackened with waste there were people wading, swimming, catching fish. The poverty and hardship here is very sad. Streets around the mosque and main bus terminal were packed with little food stalls all night.

Went back to Classic to party, over 100 girls lounging on couches, some sleeping or dozing off. Chacha was walking around spraying air freshener on them. They look pretty bad under the bright unflattering lights showing lots of skin blemishes like pale sides of beef. They were mostly small girls but I did not see a single pretty face. They would look more appealing in soft indirect dance floor lighting. Counted only a dozen guys, about 1/3 last year. Business seemed very slow.

Found a tall, slinky blonde, walking around, smiling, flirting. Picked her but she said going out with customer. Old men were dining with sweet, young girls in the steakhouse on ground floor.

In contrary most Asian girls in Sydney were tall, slim, nice, clean with pretty faces worthy of movie stars. Chacha was pushing girls on me aggressively but I did not feel the passion so just drank all night.

Met a fun Aussie surfer named Andy, facebook KRUI SURFING COMMUNITY. He has been living here 15 years and knows all workers at Classic. He was drinking heavily and popping girls all night. 5 AM he staggered out of the club, carrying 5 large Bintang beer bottles to feed security guys at Classics front gate. What a fun and sexy life.

I knew 8:30 pm was too early but I availed myself of the good BATS pizza. Food as I remembered had always been good at BATS. Alas two hours later I still saw no more than 5-6 MILFs, so I decided to leave. No staying up until all hours for me, thank you. While waiting for the taxi I saw another 8 or so MILFs arrive. MILFs are not on my to-do list in Jakarta. I'm up to my neck in MILFs in Thailand already. Poor sightings for a Friday. My impression is that BATS is no longer half as popular with girls as it used to be. Not many normal customers either, come to that. The glamourous Shangri-La lobby felt empty. Is Shangri-La going down? The location is even worse than it was because of new building sites. The traffic jams during office hours must be awful around here.

I stayed here a couple of times at Shangri-La in the first decade of the century. I was getting superb long-stay deals, with breakfast + 2 pieces of laundry a day thrown in. Of course in those days the Euro was kicking the Dollar's ass. This helped make deals look good.

That sounds about right for Tinder. SA is $200 and above. Course the hotter the more expensive. I am hearing lot of men from Singapore come to Jakarta on weekends to sex. Driving up prices.

But of course YMMV. If you are somewhat attractive and white, its much easier to pick up at a bar / club. Or if you read the forum there are many stories of men picking up civvies. All lasses want is nice dinner and to treated w / respect. Good lucks!

[QUOTE=Argo1990;2977623]Prices on Devzoki seem a bit. Over the top no? 1 hour 100-200 USD that's crazy to me or is that the norm?

I have no experience regarding Jakarta yet.[/QUOTE]

Has anybody on here ever tried this site for a pick-up ([URL]https://sanggadis.com/[/URL]). Girls look top notch, just wondering how much editing there is. Looks more focused for Indonesians as site is in Bahasa but good old automatic translation works wonders, and certainly not for the Classic regulars, but it may offer something for those that may want to play in the high-price end of town.

You need to pay to access the main escort list, only get access to independent escorts with initial registration. Some interestring rates for 1 hour.

[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;2977707]she was afraid. I couldn't help but shake the feeling that this girl has gone through some trauma, my desire for sex had gone out of the window by now and was instead replaced with concern. I stopped proceeding ahead, just laid there waiting for her to react something but she was quiet as a mouse, I got up and indicated her that should I get dressed? Her initial reaction was why? I told her that she seemed to be too scared and I don't want to make things worse for her.

She seemed to be lost in thought, I started dressing up, I assured her that I won't complain to mama and instead we could just spend some time in the room before the clock runs out, asked her if we can order food or drinks in room, she said no, we got dressed up but there were still 45 minutes to kill, so I told her that she could sleep, we both laid on the bed fully clothed, asked to rest her head on my shoulder while being enveloped in my arm, I kept playing and singing some romantic songs on my phone in a soft volume (which I am sure were alien to her), played game on my phone while doing this, woke her up at 2. 45 am, told her it was time to go. I know this goes against the mongering instincts, but I thought it was more important to be supporting shoulder in this instance.
[/QUOTE]Huge respect to you for handling this the way you did. At the end of the day we have to remember all of us are humans after all.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2977903]

Found a tall, slinky blonde, walking around, smiling, flirting. Picked her but she said going out with customer.[/QUOTE]The "going out with customer" or "waiting customer" is just a polite way for them to say they won't go with you.

I had two ladies from Classic last month tell me this. They were both from the first couch on the right immediately upon entering. One that told me something similar meets your description. A blonde hardbody named Risma who almost always shows off her curves and body with bikini tops and short, tight skirts. Her face is kind of weird looking, but her body is rocking. There is another hot lady on that couch named Laura who is also selective about her customers. Asians no problem. Bule and others probably not.

[QUOTE=ArnoldNe;2977707]I couldn't get the one girl from day before yesterday out of my mind, so I had decided to find her (I had her number, but it was to no avail), spend some time with her and spend 1 more hour with another faviorite girl of mine. But these girls don't carry their phones with them while working. Luckily I remembered the mama that had brought the line-up to another customer in which I noticed her.

This mama was also hard to find as she was not one of the pushy ones or one who approached me upfront, anyways she came to a nearby table to show line-up that is when I showed the girl name and number to her, she confirmed that the girl is in room with another customer and that I could wait if I want her. The wait time turned out to be 2 hours apparently, I was getting tired just guzzling beers and looking around, my goal was to get out of the place early but my patience paid off and she finally did bring the girl who I wasn't even sure because there are so many common names. Perhaps it was the waiting time and me obsessing over her but I really felt happy seeing her, we talked for a while, she seemed to be disconnecting in between conversations, I felt something was off but dismissed it as her being shy. Once mama came around she offered me to take her to my hotel (I was surprised to hear mama offering this) but I had checked this with the girl before mama came and she was like maybe tomorrow, so finally we settled at 2 hours with her at Classic (I thought it would go till closing hours as it was already 12.45 am). 2 hours doesn't have any discount tag and costs straight up (365*2=730 k), mama also asked for a tip of 1 bundle I. E. 35 k, I hesitated as I am not accustomed to tipping mamas, so she went away but later thought that she did bring me the girl that I wanted so called her back, said sorry and gave her the 35 k, this made her happy and then there were laughs and giggles.

Onto the room, this girl was very sweet and delicate like a barbie doll, so I was being very careful with her, she confirmed her age was 22, we had some sweet kissing moments, but she seemed to be scared of something throughout the interaction and she was avoiding eye contact, I played some songs on my phone, we danced for a bit (I am a very poor dancer) but thought it would loosen her up a bit, we showered together and I could see her amateur hands wandering about very tentatively on my body. Once onto the bed we started with kissing again and she was very soft and delicate as mentioned before, so I was taking confirmation for every action and although she was saying yes, I could sense reluctance in her body language. Once I started caressing her pussy, that is when she started shaking and trembling but not in a sexual way, but in a way that she was afraid. I couldn't help but shake the feeling that this girl has gone through some trauma, my desire for sex had gone out of the window by now and was instead replaced with concern. I stopped proceeding ahead, just laid there waiting for her to react something but she was quiet as a mouse, I got up and indicated her that should I get dressed? Her initial reaction was why? I told her that she seemed to be too scared and I don't want to make things worse for her.

She seemed to be lost in thought, I started dressing up, I assured her that I won't complain to mama and instead we could just spend some time in the room before the clock runs out, asked her if we can order food or drinks in room, she said no, we got dressed up but there were still 45 minutes to kill, so I told her that she could sleep, we both laid on the bed fully clothed, asked to rest her head on my shoulder while being enveloped in my arm, I kept playing and singing some romantic songs on my phone in a soft volume (which I am sure were alien to her), played game on my phone while doing this, woke her up at 2. 45 am, told her it was time to go. I know this goes against the mongering instincts, but I thought it was more important to be supporting shoulder in this instance.

Once I reached my room, surprisingly I started getting messages from her on Whatsapp, her first message was 'forgive me', She later apologized for disappointing me etc. I assured her that it was ok, later she admitted that she had been through a traumatic experience earlier that day and also had a rude customer just before me, we chatted for about half an hour, it was getting late so called it a night.[/QUOTE]You are a gentleman sir, many treat them very badly, evil men are in this world. It can and does ruin their perception of men, shame for them and the rest of us. I now if possible when entering bars, got any new ones with no foreign exposer. They may be shy but not scared of me.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2976005]I have 9 days to kill during April. Is that too long just to hang out in Jakarta? How long do you usually stay?[/QUOTE]I typically stay for at least 5 days, considering the time and expense involved in getting here from where I live. Ideally, 7-10 days is perfect, as it gives enough time to explore without getting bored or feeling limited by the traffic and available places to cover.

Does anyone know of a map that lays out the most common clubs / brothels / massage places? I'm particularly interested in Classic and Emporium. I'll only be there for 4 full days, so I'll probably stick to those two places and then maybe an escort or two.

I used maps that people put together for Berlin and Prague and they're pretty useful in terms of saving time. It also helps to know if there's another place right around the corner in case there are no appealing girls at the first stop.

Or I would settle with just a street name or something for the main two. I don't want to waste time fighting the traffic only to find out there are two Classic clubs and I happened to choose the one that sucks.

Looking forward to giving my first reports in Jakarta. It's a new destination for me.

I'm absolutely amazed by the reports Zippos shared about his Bekasi / Cikarang expedition back in September. Now, I'm really intrigued to spend a few days there, escaping Jakarta's bustling traffic for some laid-back punting around Cikarang, Cibitung. Does anyone else similar or have a different take on it?

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?965-Jakarta&p=2948370&viewfull=1#post2948370

[QUOTE=Bkk212;2973455]So my Christmas and new year Jakarta trip is over with not much to report. Visited blok m a few times but it's hit and miss. On Friday's it rocking with a lot of personnel but not so on Saturday.

However there are lots of SW around the area at all the back and front of Jl falethan. Some were not interesting but there were a few lookers early. When I passed by late most were gone.

There is one that sits on a motorcycle real looker but seriously bad attitude I have seen her around for years. In my bar the asking rate by some is over 1 M which I find a bit over priced for the quality but there were a few 8/9 on Friday but they were occupied very quickly. I did try massage from different places but the room condition were a bit off. Not a turn on atmosphere.[/QUOTE]

Blok M tends to be a love-it or hate-it kind of place. In my opinion, the best way to truly experience it is by staying at a nearby hotel, like Sotis Falatehan or M Hotel, and stroll the area. From bars and restaurants to shops, spas, and the Blok M Square mall, there's plenty to enjoy. Many people here, especially for first-time visitors or those on short trips, prefer to stick to North Jakarta, which I completely understand, as most of the action is concentrated there. However, you're missing out on the unique vibe and fun that Blok M, Kemang and South Jakarta has to offer. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2977810]Alomost all girls at Classic are there for money, Indon have genetically built in ability to feel victom. Girls look to work at classic cause its easy money, So she made easy money by making you feel victom of trauma. Brothels are not the place to feel bad for girls, you are their to have good time. You paid for sex instead you turned into nice guy.

I bet after making you fool she called her favorite client and fuck the hell of him or her boyfriend.

No one is holding girls hostage, or at gun point to work here. Next time, take girl first for short time, and get your deed done and start a fling with girl if she provided great service.[/QUOTE]Dear Brother,

I hear what you are saying, and while nobody can ascertain except herself ascertain whether she was telling the truth or not, I am someone who goes with my instincts / or gutfeel if you will.

I too had to work very hard to get where I am at, and to be in a position to afford these vacations, life is not easy on anyone some are born with money and some have to work for it but I can assure you it is not easy on anyone. While we work hard to get the money to spend on these activities, the girls have to sacrifice their bodies to earn our money risking diseases, rough clientale, being in an environment filled with smoke and drinks for their 10-12 hour shifts.

I have just as equally quit on a girl and complained to her mama, if you read my previous reports. The difference is this girl was trying to get by without putting any effort, bought a costly drink without confirming with me first, and in the room she became a dead fish. Whereas the Classic girl didn't say no to anything, she was participative but was being held back by fear and was naturally shaking when I moved to a particular part of her body (it wasn't a trying to get by case). I have been mongering at various places for more than 20 years now and have seen my share of the garden variety of girls that the mongering scene offers and the kind of drama that they can put up. So if my instinct tells me that something is wrong I trust it.

It is possible that I may be wrong, but even if I was I don't feel any remorse or regret for how things went. Her trying to connect with me later also means that she couldn't just forget our time together and made an effort to say something about it by connecting with me later, which she didn't have to, the hit and run types generally don't look back on their victims, they will generally have a laugh with their pals and boast of how big of a fool they made out of me.

Thanks to Werqweq and others who have mentioned the positive comments, appreciate it brothers (We are all Humans before anything else and if we don't feel compassion for one of our own then we are no better than wild animals).

Sorry about posting this slightly late, travelling back home was a bit hectic and I got my recovery rest, so posting last day at Jakarta report.

I played golf at the Kemayoran Golf course, a worthy experience for almost 1. 5 m (including 10 golf balls for 150 k). It is a 4-5 hours experience depending on how quickly you finish each game but there were at least 12 odd courses, with caddie being your chaperone. I played for the first time and it was an aweome experience.

I had decided to finish my closing day with a flourish and while I have been texting my known ones to and fro to meet again, I have learned that girls at Classic have to keep their phones in locker while they are working, so it proved to be difficult to find them in the jungle during Classic business hours. I had decided that I will have 2 sessions today regardless, so after few drinks and smokes picked a pretty little girl with some tats.

This girl turned out to be a no this no that kind of girl and was in a rush for me to finish, she was an amateur who couldn't even handle a simple miss fuck properly, and she continued with the no, no approach even after I switched to minimalistic mode. I was getting bored, but somehow finished the session without my heart being in it. After this she had the audacity to ask for tip, I clearly told her tips are for good performers and asked her if she thought that she did well, she made a bit of face, but I locked the door behind me and didn't look back.

Moved to the main area which got crowded by now (about 11.30 pm on a Friday night), it was hard to find a table and I shared it with Indonesian gentleman who was kind enough to give me the affirmation to sit while he was with his girl, later on he moved out with his girl and 2 more Indo guys came to the table they seemed more into music than the girls so we enjoyed a cool vibe together offering each other cigs, while I was getting recharged, by the time I was done, I couldn't find any good looking girls around (12.30 am), so called one mama, saw her line-up and selected the least rejectionable option, some mamas I observed only cared about the Indo. Clientale and were intentionally not paying attention to foreigners.

Anyways the second option also turned to be rush rush one, but got synced to my momentum once I penetrated her, I ploughed her hard (not rough) thinking that this is my last experience and I need to make it count, I got the moans that I was looking for but it wasn't as magical a feeling as some of my early encounters. Tipped her a 50k since she got into the act a little later. Last day was turning out to be a disappointment.

While I was at the cashiers at Classic closing time, I made one more attempt to connect with my first good encounter at Classic, we had been playing the catch-up for 1 whole week, unfortunately neither of our schedules allowed for us to get back together on any day until now. This time however she responded immediately since her shift was over, I called her over to the counter, our eyes lit up once we saw eachother and after a warm embrace we sat down chatting, I asked her what was her plan after the shift, she gave a smart response as she was not sure, I took the hint and made her an offer to come back to my hotel just to give me company with my packing, she happily accepted, I warned her that my room would be a mess, she smiled, I asked her for charges and she said nothing (as in no charges), I confirmed again and she assured me that my understanding is correct, she is the best girl that I met at classic calm, quiet, smart, matches my wavelength in the bed, dare I say a love connection (as far as one in such places go). She asked me to wait while she changes, I waited at the table, later got a message from her to meet outside as the supervisors may not like her leaving with me. I started moving outside, while going downstairs one other girl started hitting on me and held my hand forcibly hinting that we are going home together, I just smiled but she kept complimenting how handsome I am et all, I just enjoyed the attention and waited for my girl at the exit. After some more wait she asked me to meet directly at hotel (I got an eerie feeling whether her plans are changed or something).

I reached my hotel, waited at reception and ordered the as best as possible desserts available at 3 am from Buger king (some choclate toasties, etc) (LOL I know), she was texting me of her movement, which assured me that she was coming, received her from reception and went to my room, I just wanted her company as a lasting thought of my trip's closure, and my mind was occupied with packing and getting enough sleep before I left the hotel for good, so once she was in, I hooked her onto my laptop to play something on youtube to her liking and asked her if she want to order some food, she chose some rice option and also helped me coordinate with the delivery guys for both deliveries. She had her food while I packed and once I was done by 4 am or so, we had the dessert and asked her if she wants to lay down for couple of hours, she agreed. Once we were a little relaxed and she was in my arms on the bed we started an intense make-out session (a never ending kissing marathon with her soft and scrumptious lips, our hands wandering all around each other's bodies (but I was too drained for sex with 2 sessions earlier), so we fell asleep in each other's embrace after 45 mins or so, I had an alarm set for 8 am, I woke her up after the alarm went off, but she was holding me even harder and wasn't letting go, I turned off the alarms and another intense make-out session started, I have never kissed anyone before brushing in the morning but this wasn't one of those moments, her mouth felt as beautiful as it was 3 hours ago and surprisingly enough she wasn't repulsed by my mouth, I had a raging boner so we dry humped in different positions with the last one being her in a cow girl topless position and a few other times with her being naked. I was aware of the passing time and had to make it stop after some time but the chemistry between us was magic. Once our morning routines were settled we had breakfast in the hotel restaurant. Once back to our room I handed her a 400 k + 50 k for her taxi fare, she happily accepted looking a little surprised that I was giving her the money.

I saw her off till the lift with a heavy heart, asked her to message me once she reached her place, which she did. This was the flourish that I was looking for and I left Jakarta this time a very happy man. There was one more girl at classic who had exchanged numbers with me and she had been texting me continously for 3-4 days to meet at my hotel or at Classic, not sure if she got a little obssessed or was just hunting for business (but it felt a little more than just business).

Huge shout out to this very active and helpful forum, you have been the walking stick to this silly old blind man.

That is all from my Jakarta diaries for this time, signing-off for until next time.

I am here if anyone needs any information that is not mentioned already.

Cheers and peace out!!

[QUOTE=CIMguy;2978294]Does anyone know of a map that lays out the most common clubs / brothels / massage places? I'm particularly interested in Classic and Emporium. I'll only be there for 4 full days, so I'll probably stick to those two places and then maybe an escort or two.

I used maps that people put together for Berlin and Prague and they're pretty useful in terms of saving time. It also helps to know if there's another place right around the corner in case there are no appealing girls at the first stop.

Or I would settle with just a street name or something for the main two. I don't want to waste time fighting the traffic only to find out there are two Classic clubs and I happened to choose the one that sucks.

Looking forward to giving my first reports in Jakarta. It's a new destination for me.[/QUOTE]Emporivum and Classic are a 12 minute walk apart. Lookup Redtop hotel Jakarta. It's an easy 10 minute walk from Classic, and two minutes from Emporivum. If you don't care about gym, many people have also recommended the Luminor hotel, which is even closer to Emporivum. If you have enough money and want to mainly visit Emporivum and Classic, I'd stay at the Movenpick, which is right next to Emporivum, and a 12 minute walk from Classic.

Except for the horribly repetitive and boring breakfast, I like Redtop for the price / value / location. I have stayed there two times, but thinking about Merlynn Park next time (and probably motobiketaxi to Classic), mainly as Movenpick is both a bit too expensive, but also rooms there lack a bathtub it seems.