Manila

[QUOTE=CurtisMack;2873433]I was hesitant to share my report......luxury 5-star resort f....... rubbing my cock... I gave her 2 K more .... Back home $500 for a PPM ......, I drive a BMW 4 series, I own a 1-bedroom condo with a mortgage on it,.....I earn a salary of a little over $250 K a year, .... After I applied my filters for girls, it took me until about 150 profiles ..

.I also only eat 2 meals a day in my regular life, so it was only breakfast a. 61-62 K by myself. Which comes out to about $1,100 which is less than the cost of two PPMs in my area and less than 9% of my after-tax monthly wages. It cost me $1,200 just to board my dog while I was on my trip, so I spent more on my dog on this trip than six days of plentiful sex with a beautiful college girl nearly half my age. You can't convince me I overpaid LOL.[/QUOTE]I missed the stuff about you being 42 and obese.

Where I come from, we have things called paragraphs. Also, in my case, I know billionaires and paupers and everyone in between. I have stayed in everything from 5 star hotels to prisons. But that is enough about me, let's talk about me.

Your personal income figures don't add up but then SE Asia is full of folk who re-invent themselves. Dream world meets Clown world.

What prompted my reply was I had first seen you mention your dog and thought you brought it as your wingman and I had looked up the costs of bringing a dog to the Philippines.

I previously posted about eating dogs. I see Korean dog owners are under some pressure from animal rights' morons. Maybe next time bring your dog.

A Royal Marine captain was kidnapped by rebels in Liberia and, in conversation with them, he asked whether it was true human meat tasted like pork. His captor replied "I don't know. I am Muslim".

Long story short. I don't care how rich or poor you are and nor, I imagine, does anyone else, because a bore is someone who, when you ask him his life story, tells you. I will be in Angeles in the New Year, sitting in bars deciding who to bonk. Last time, English soccer supporters and their hired holes sat nearby watching their teams play on TV. And I got into small talk with successful American business men, all ships in the night. Go easy on the BS.

Hey Folks, I always frequent AC in Phil's and BKK, Pattaya in TH.

Looking at AC forum I see the action is much less and options are getting thin by the day! Thought of exploring Manila. I RTFF Manila, Makati and QC. Below is my observation and would like to see if this is right.

QC has more massage places / fish bowl. More upscale and quiet precint.

Makati / Burgos street has pick up bars similar to that of AC. FL scene is also better here.

For both QC and Makati. BF+LD+ Girls Tip. Roughly 9 k PHP for every pickup in average, is this right?

In AC- I see it's only BF+LD+ Girl tip mostly 4. 5 k for overnight.

Given this is it worth to spend in Makati over AC?

Lastly, I used to stay in Central Park in AC, what would equivalent girl friendly hotel close, quiet and decent close to the bars and action in makati?

Thanks a Ton and sorry if too many questions hehe!

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2877033]Makati / Burgos street has pick up bars similar to that of AC. FL scene is also better here.[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. The street scene on Burgos can be chaotic. Mostly older gals, lots of ladyboy.

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2877033]For both QC and Makati. BF+LD+ Girls Tip. Roughly 9 k PHP for every pickup in average, is this right?[/QUOTE]Correct on the Makati gogo bars on price, 9-10 k PHP is typical. The girl's "Tip" is something she will insist on negotiating with you while still in the bar. Its usually about p5000. She will expect the full tip if she stays the agreed-upon time, her service was good and she does in the room what you agreed upon the night before. Once again, the tip is negotiated while still in the bar, but given upon her departure after service.

Not aware of similar gogo bars in QC. Other gents?

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2877033]In AC- I see it's only BF+LD+ Girl tip mostly 4. 5 k for overnight.[/QUOTE]AC = BF + LD. There is no tip that will be pre-negotiated (unless you bring it up in the bar). You are not required to tip anything. However most gents do tip upon her departure if her service was good. Tips usually range from 300-1000, but you don't need to give her anything. Any tip she gets is from the goodness of your heart (or other body part).

AC cost = P4 k to 5 k barfine (depending which bar) + any LD. You said "+ Girl tip mostly 4. 5 k for overnight", which is a touch confusing. Did you mean the tips are mostly (usually) 4. 5 k? Or did you mean the total cost would be mostly (usually) 4. 5 k? The total cost with LD should be about 4. 5 - 6 K, which is about half the cost of a Burgos gogo girl.

There are reports of girls in some AC gogos doing ST (not long time). You might need to ask in advance.

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2877033]Given this is it worth to spend in Makati over AC?[/QUOTE]Can't answer that. Would say that you should experience Burgos gogos at least once, if for no other reason than to see the level (or lack thereof) of talent. Burgos gogo girls will cost you about twice what an AC girl will cost.

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2877033]Lastly, I used to stay in Central Park in AC, what would equivalent girl friendly hotel close, quiet and decent close to the bars and action in makati?[/QUOTE]Makati Palace, right on Burgos St, across the street from Cubana Cafe. There are airbnb options in the area, and a Red Planet 1 block away. Also Coro Hotel is near.

Hi all,

Thanks for all the posts. I am 26 M from London and am planning my first trip outside Europe to hobby and relax (I have previously done: Ams, Barcelona, Vienna and Prague).

I plan to fly into Manila and spend 9 days in Makati staying at the city garden grand. I will then fly to Boracay to spend 4 days on a beach before flying home (if I find the right girl I may bring her with me).

I would like to start by trying my luck on Tinder, but my other options will either be bar girls from P Burgos or escorts from Manilacourtesans. I have a few questions that I hope some of you will be able to answer.

1. This is my first time hobbying in a country where it's illegal. I know being punished for this is rare, but are there any tips to stay legally secure? (Like not having discussing services over text).

2. I have typically only done 1 HR appointments with girls, but the prices here for a long time are only 2 x the 2 HR price. What am I supposed to do during this time; should I take the girl out to dinner first or have drinks somewhere or should I just fuck her, go to sleep and then fuck her again?

3. I do like girls with bigger tits that aren't too chubby, I know most Asians aren't built like this. But, is it still likely that I could find some to suit my preferences? I don't mind fake boobs either. Any bars in particular partial to this body type? I've heard maybe Fyre.

4. I intend to do some BBFS during this trip. Hopefully with civis or semi pros off tinder to reduce the risk. Would you recommend I get some Prep or other antibiotics just in case? Where can I obtain these and how easy / cheap is it?

5. I'm hoping to have a sb relationship with someone whilst I'm there and possibly bringing them to Boracay with me. I'm not sure if seekings membership price is worth it though. So, does anyone know if there are any freelancers in Boracay. And do you think they'the spend the day with me?

6. Any massage place recommendations? I have been trying to get a Nuru massage with the gel for ages.

I'll be in the Philippines Feb 4th to 17th. So let me know if you want to hang out while I'm here. Thanks everyone!

Thanks a lot, WC for the very informative input as always!

On AC I meant, 4. 5 k to 5 k in total (BF+LD+Tip).

I will try Burgos Gogo if I make it to Manila this holidays!

Cheers!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2877096]Not necessarily. The street scene on Burgos can be chaotic. Mostly older gals, lots of ladyboy.

Correct on the Makati gogo bars on price, 9-10 k PHP is typical. The girl's "Tip" is something she will insist on negotiating with you while still in the bar. Its usually about p5000. She will expect the full tip if she stays the agreed-upon time, her service was good and she does in the room what you agreed upon the night before. Once again, the tip is negotiated while still in the bar, but given upon her departure after service.

Not aware of similar gogo bars in QC. Other gents?

AC = BF + LD. There is no tip that will be pre-negotiated (unless you bring it up in the bar). You are not required to tip anything. However most gents do tip upon her departure if her service was good. Tips usually range from 300-1000, but you don't need to give her anything. Any tip she gets is from the goodness of your heart (or other body part).

AC cost = P4 k to 5 k barfine (depending which bar) + any LD. You said "+ Girl tip mostly 4. 5 k for overnight", which is a touch confusing. Did you mean the tips are mostly (usually) 4. 5 k? Or did you mean the total cost would be mostly (usually) 4. 5 k? The total cost with LD should be about 4. 5 - 6 K, which is about half the cost of a Burgos gogo girl.

There are reports of girls in some AC gogos doing ST (not long time). You might need to ask in advance.

Can't answer that. Would say that you should experience Burgos gogos at least once, if for no other reason than to see the level (or lack thereof) of talent. Burgos gogo girls will cost you about twice what an AC girl will cost.

Makati Palace, right on Burgos St, across the street from Cubana Cafe. There are airbnb options in the area, and a Red Planet 1 block away. Also Coro Hotel is near.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JasonBen84;2877318]Thanks a lot, WC for the very informative input as always!

On AC I meant, 4. 5 k to 5 k in total (BF+LD+Tip).

I will try Burgos Gogo if I make it to Manila this holidays![/QUOTE]Welcome. I forgot to mention a few other hotels in the area: St. Giles, Sogo, City Garden, City Garden Grand, and I'M Hotel. A few blocks further northeast in the Century City area are condos Gramercy, A Venue, Milano, and Knightsbrige (use airbnb).

Happy holidays, and hope you find something (s) worth vaxxing.

Nice Pic, Wc! I'm flying to BKK first and to Manila for work potentially! So I hope all these inputs will come handy!

Besides the hotels below, I was recommended St. Giles, Rits Astor and Hotel Durban (as CGG is sold out). Hope these 3 are Girl friendly, and being a light sleeper, wondering which is good for quiet sleep.

Enjoy your holidays too!

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2877547]Welcome. I forgot to mention a few other hotels in the area: St. Giles, Sogo, City Garden, City Garden Grand, and I'M Hotel. A few blocks further northeast in the Century City area are condos Gramercy, A Venue, Milano, and Knightsbrige (use airbnb).

Happy holidays, and hope you find something (s) worth vaxxing.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rprogta;2877159]Hi all,

Thanks for all the posts. I am 26 M from London and am planning my first trip outside Europe to hobby and relax (I have previously done: Ams, Barcelona, Vienna and Prague).

I plan to fly into Manila and spend 9 days in Makati staying at the city garden grand. I will then fly to Boracay to spend 4 days on a beach before flying home (if I find the right girl I may bring her with me).

I would like to start by trying my luck on Tinder, but my other options will either be bar girls from P Burgos or escorts from Manilacourtesans. I have a few questions that I hope some of you will be able to answer.

1. This is my first time hobbying in a country where it's illegal. I know being punished for this is rare, but are there any tips to stay legally secure? (Like not having discussing services over text).

2. I have typically only done 1 HR appointments with girls, but the prices here for a long time are only 2 x the 2 HR price. What am I supposed to do during this time; should I take the girl out to dinner first or have drinks somewhere or should I just fuck her, go to sleep and then fuck her again?

3. I do like girls with bigger tits that aren't too chubby, I know most Asians aren't built like this. But, is it still likely that I could find some to suit my preferences? I don't mind fake boobs either. Any bars in particular partial to this body type? I've heard maybe Fyre.

4. I intend to do some BBFS during this trip. Hopefully with civis or semi pros off tinder to reduce the risk. Would you recommend I get some Prep or other antibiotics just in case? Where can I obtain these and how easy / cheap is it?

5. I'm hoping to have a sb relationship with someone whilst I'm there and possibly bringing them to Boracay with me. I'm not sure if seekings membership price is worth it though. So, does anyone know if there are any freelancers in Boracay. And do you think they'the spend the day with me?

6. Any massage place recommendations? I have been trying to get a Nuru massage with the gel for ages.

I'll be in the Philippines Feb 4th to 17th. So let me know if you want to hang out while I'm here. Thanks everyone![/QUOTE]Everything you talked about is a risk. Prostitition is illegal in Philippines, but it is not really enforced. Bar girls even get public hygiene certificates and are often tested for disease regularly (though the types of tests given are often dubious at best). Stay away from anything that looks too young and you should be okay.

As far as BBFS, that is a risk. I would make the argument that Filipinas in general really do not like condoms. Pros are more likely to take better care of themselves in that area than non-pros or semi-pros. HIV transmission through vaginal sex is not particularly common, but other diseases are easily transmitted. It's a risk you take, as women don't often exhibit obvious symptoms.

I met a girl off Pina and got along well with her. We actually started talking and money was never discussed. True girlfriend experience. I flew her from Mindanao to meet me in Manila recently. I asked and paid for her to have an exam and sti screener before we met, and she did it and sent pictures of the results to me before we met. She is a good girl, though, so no pictures of the fun we had.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2877683]Everything you talked about is a risk. Prostitition is illegal in Philippines, but it is not really enforced. Bar girls even get public hygiene certificates and are often tested for disease regularly (though the types of tests given are often dubious at best). Stay away from anything that looks too young and you should be okay.

As far as BBFS, that is a risk. I would make the argument that Filipinas in general really do not like condoms. Pros are more likely to take better care of themselves in that area than non-pros or semi-pros. HIV transmission through vaginal sex is not particularly common, but other diseases are easily transmitted. It's a risk you take, as women don't often exhibit obvious symptoms.

I met a girl off Pina and got along well with her. We actually started talking and money was never discussed. True girlfriend experience. I flew her from Mindanao to meet me in Manila recently. I asked and paid for her to have an exam and sti screener before we met, and she did it and sent pictures of the results to me before we met. She is a good girl, though, so no pictures of the fun we had.[/QUOTE]Other great risks. Walking across the street in PH. Walking on uneven sidewalks.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2877683]Everything you talked about is a risk. Prostitition is illegal in Philippines, but it is not really enforced. Bar girls even get public hygiene certificates and are often tested for disease regularly (though the types of tests given are often dubious at best). Stay away from anything that looks too young and you should be okay.

As far as BBFS, that is a risk. I would make the argument that Filipinas in general really do not like condoms. Pros are more likely to take better care of themselves in that area than non-pros or semi-pros. HIV transmission through vaginal sex is not particularly common, but other diseases are easily transmitted. It's a risk you take, as women don't often exhibit obvious symptoms.

I met a girl off Pina and got along well with her. We actually started talking and money was never discussed. True girlfriend experience. I flew her from Mindanao to meet me in Manila recently. I asked and paid for her to have an exam and sti screener before we met, and she did it and sent pictures of the results to me before we met. She is a good girl, though, so no pictures of the fun we had.[/QUOTE]To start with Philippine boys, they do not use condoms. They are least bothered about hygiene or getting girl pregnant. That is why you see lots of young single mothers. So it is inborn in girls that using condoms are not necessary. I have been with plenty of non pros and very few enquired about condoms. I assure them I am clean and they are satisfied. I am telling the truth because I do get tested after every mongering trip. I do not ask them to get tested. Many consider it us an insult. They tell me they are not bargirls.

Unlike Vietnam where hotels ostensibly do not allow girls to stay with you Philippines is no problem. One extremely important aspect is no body bats an eyelid about the age difference unlike western countries.

Prostitution is technically illegal but rules are not strict. All the same do not openly flout it.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2877683]...... Pros are more likely to take better care of themselves in that area than non-pros or semi-pros........[/QUOTE]I took the opposite view in my visits to Thailand the last of which was in 2015. Back then I did BBFS with non-pros but bagged up with pros.

[QUOTE=Rprogta;2877159]

1. This is my first time hobbying in a country where it's illegal. I know being punished for this is rare, but are there any tips to stay legally secure? (Like not having discussing services over text).

3. I do like girls with bigger tits that aren't too chubby, I know most Asians aren't built like this. But, is it still likely that I could find some to suit my preferences? I don't mind fake boobs either. Any bars in particular partial to this body type? I've heard maybe Fyre.

4. I intend to do some BBFS during this trip. Hopefully with civis or semi pros off tinder to reduce the risk. Would you recommend I get some Prep or other antibiotics just in case? Where can I obtain these and how easy / cheap is it?
[/QUOTE]Looks like you are in for disappointment going in with this list of expectations like some others most recently had, would be wise to postpose your trip until you find something truly enticing about phils before you go, continue what you are doing and wait until you don't care about the legalities, you like the shape of the south east asian woman and don't care if you or your penis rots off from an STI. If you fundamentally don't like the kind of women on offer wait until you do to invest your time and money into a trip.

Me for example, I have put off trips to brazil and peru and madagascar, because I would be looking for half Japanese women in Brazil and Peru and remnants of indonesian DNA in Madagascar. I am just not attracted to let say non-asian women. Which makes phils a treasure trove for me personally.

The correct list of expectations that will set you up for a win are as follows:

1. I love women who are shaped like a tube and have no figure and as brown as possible or a little chubby still with no real shape to make mention of.

2. Where can I go to get unlimited BBFS without question.

3. I love GFE and want a women who will stay with me for a week or month at a time.

4. I love asian ladies but wish they could speak english.

5. I love the idea saving a poor women and it is self gratifying when I upgrade a ladies whole families quality of life.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2877684]Other great risks. Walking across the street in PH. Walking on uneven sidewalks.[/QUOTE]Walking anywhere in Manila, risking a game of [I]"What's That Smell"[/I]! Keep an antibiotic in your pocket. . .

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2877853]Walking anywhere in Manila, risking a game of [I]"What's That Smell"[/I]! Keep an antibiotic in your pocket. . .[/QUOTE]How about a free case of sometimes fatal Leptospirosis? Skyrocketing in cases across the philippines in 2023. Cause its more fun in the philippines.

[URL]https://crisis24.garda.com/alerts/2023/08/philippines-elevated-leptospirosis-activity-reported-nationwide-through-july[/URL]

OR for even more fun "double dead" or "hot meat" which is spoiled / painted meat or meat that died from infectious diseases and passed off as normal meat.

Now you know why the bbq is 15 pesos a stick and siomai is 20 pesos.

Even BGC is filthy with rat infestations. In fact in recent history the only places I've gotten sick were in the upper class restaurants in BGC and makati. The reason for this is because I suspect the staff never eats this food because its too expensive so they don't give a crap if its spoiled. I have never been in a hotel in manila that didn't have a rat or bug problem the even the conrad has signs of insects and rodents and every single hotel I've ever stayed at in manila was riddled with pest infestations. Which is why I smh at any one who would willingly go to tondo and eat anything in and around tondo.

I find the provinces to be a little more manageable in this regard but provinces also come with their own inconveniences and hazards.

If you look for inherent risks in the philippines you will just end up paralyzed.

[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2877795]The correct list of expectations that will set you up for a win are as follows:

1. I love women who are shaped like a tube and have no figure and as brown as possible or a little chubby still with no real shape to make mention of.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rprogta;2877159]I do like girls with bigger tits that aren't too chubby, I know most Asians aren't built like this. But, is it still likely that I could find some to suit my preferences? I don't mind fake boobs either. [/QUOTE]Likely is a matter of probability. You will be more likely to find the body type in the picture. Thin, small boobs, cute.

[QUOTE=Rprogta;2877159]Any bars in particular partial to this body type? I've heard maybe Fyre.[/QUOTE]No. The bar's hiring is less discriminate than that. The girls are a mix of NCR talent, leaning towards typical pinay figures. No one bar has a more significant 'type', possibly excepting O'Reillys bar with much older / chubby ladies. You will find more slender gals in V8, Lips, and Maison, but not necessarily with big boobs. I am not saying that there are no skinny-booby girls on Burgos, I am saying they are the exception. Even if you find some, they will often be taken out of the bar earlier in the evening by some other high roller. Your other options are escort services and other online items (Tinder).

From your list, like the other fellas, I fear you might be setting yourself up to fail. Consider other locations. Columbia and Brazil come to mind.