American Politics

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3036132]Oh so the 20's, 50's, and 80's were not great times economically?

The Dow tripled from 1920 to 1929 and did not 300 again until Eisenhower came into office.

[URL]https://www.investopedia.com/historical-us-unemployment-rate-by-year-7495494[/URL]

[B]Unemployment rate was 3. 2% in 1929 and 24.9% in 1932. What great Democrat policies are you talking about?[/b]

And the Fed? Oh yeah, they were perfect!

But eventually, in 1929, the Fed's board worried that speculation was out of control, and abruptly slammed on the brakes by contracting the money supply and raising interest rates, Smith notes.

The Fed's move to cool the stock market worked a little too well. "They got the stock market to come down," Richardson explains. "But then it came down a lot, and it came down very quickly. ".

The definition of a Democratic who thinks the only issues with government are Trump and Republicans. Everybody else in government is perfect.[/QUOTE]The Great Repub Crash and Great Repub Depression started at the end of October 1929. Whatever the unemployment rate for the year prior to that is irrelevant.

And you do know that Repub president Herbert Hoover, the only president in 100 years to lose more jobs than his policies created until Repub so-called president Donald Trump came along and did it again, was president in 1932, right? Every hour, day, week and month of it. Along with a Repub-controlled House and a Repub-controlled Senate. Same as "Record-Breaking Government Shutdown Repub Trump" has today.

FDR did not become president until March 1933. They had inaugurations later in those days.

See what I mean about you knowing shockingly little about history, economics and the USA Economy?

The 1920's "roared" for the monied elite, sucked bigly for everyone else, especially the rural poor destined to become Red State Repub MAGAs.

The "Happy Days" Eisenhower 1950's were marked by 3, count them, 3 Recessions during his presidency. Consequently, Eisenhower's job creating record is near the bottom in all of modern history right there with other Repubs. We were in an Eisenhower Recession when Kennedy won the election in 1960.

The Great Reagan Recession of the 1980's began as his first year in office, 1981, ended and his second year in office, 1982, began, highlighted by a whopping ten consecutive months of +10% Unemployment Rates that stretched from his 2nd year in office into his 3rd. It was then the worst economic downturn since the Great Repub Depression. A measure that was eclipsed of course by Repub so-called president GW Bush and, by many measures, Repub so-called president Donald Trump.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3036122]Please tell us where the 100 million euros plus in Louvre gems have gone?

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/10/23/zohran-mamdani-my-politics-are-built-on-extending-human-rights-to-queer-and-trans-ugandans/[/URL]

He will make a priceless National TV avatar for GOP TV spots.[/QUOTE]No robbers in USA? I think Trump was a big one, to become rich.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3035784]How many illegal immigrants from Europe came to USA last year? How many tons of cocaine and fentanyl were smuggling in from Europe last year?[/QUOTE][NOPARSE]Is this senility, ignorance or stupidity? Or all of the aforementioned?

I have to wonder, as this is about the 3rd or 4th time you've asked the same question, on some variation of European immigration. To which I've already replied and answered your question.[/NOPARSE]
[LIST]Here, let me remind you of what I previously said, and I'll even highlight it and put it in BOLD, so you don't forget. I said, [i][b]"...I dunno, you tell me! "[/b][/i][/LIST][U]However:[/U][NOPARSE]

Interestingly enough though...another one of your gullible MAGA suckers, did provide a BBC article, that showed, of the 100,000 European Irish illegal folk in America, only 0.1% were deport last year. So if that is representative European [/NOPARSE]illegals, [B]I think you owe MDS1, nice big THANK YOU, for proving my point,[/B] that not much is being done on the Europeans.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3035784]I don't care who is bringing it in. Republicans don't care who smuggles it in [/QUOTE]Oh so now you don't care who brings in the drugs? No doubt, because I DEBUNKED, yet another one of your opinionated baseless claims about immigrant smugglers.

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3035784]As for immigration, yes I think securing the border also means you must remove the maybe up to 25 million illegal immigrants who came. [b]They will contribute to that 44% Hispanic Americans smuggling drugs in the future.[/b] [/QUOTE][NOPARSE]Yet another baseless claim, grounded and routed in ignorance, fear and racial prejudice.

According to that ignorant logic, don't forget about the 52% (of the 80% U.S. Citizens) of millions of Whites and Blacks that also "...contribute to smuggling drugs in the future"[/NOPARSE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3036259][NOPARSE]Is this senility, ignorance or stupidity? Or all of the aforementioned?

I have to wonder, as this is about the 3rd or 4th time you've asked the same question, on some variation of European immigration. To which I've already replied and answered your question.[/NOPARSE]
[LIST]Here, let me remind you of what I previously said, and I'll even highlight it and put it in BOLD, so you don't forget. I said, [i][b]"...I dunno, you tell me! "[/b][/i][/LIST][U]However:[/U][NOPARSE]

Interestingly enough though...another one of your gullible MAGA suckers, did provide a BBC article, that showed, of the 100,000 European Irish illegal folk in America, only 0.1% were deport last year. So if that is representative European [/NOPARSE]illegals, [B]I think you owe MDS1, nice big THANK YOU, for proving my point,[/B] that not much is being done on the Europeans.

Oh so now you don't care who brings in the drugs? No doubt, because I DEBUNKED, yet another one of your opinionated baseless claims about immigrant smugglers.

[NOPARSE]Yet another baseless claim, grounded and routed in ignorance, fear and racial prejudice.

According to that ignorant logic, don't forget about the 52% (of the 80% U.S. Citizens) of millions of Whites and Blacks that also "...contribute to smuggling drugs in the future"[/NOPARSE][/QUOTE]It took you several days to come up with this nonsense.

Spidy, you are the one who made the claim many Europeans are here illegally and now you won't post evidence to prove it, it's just a ***** ass lame as fuck response telling me to do your work for you. It's a typical ***** pussy coward move LOL. But I am used to you being a scaredy cat by now, I expect nothing less from a true snake charming weasil.

So here it is since you asked me to tell you even though everyone already knows the answer. Europeans don't smuggle cocaine and illegal drugs at a significant rate compared to Latin America dude! The climate in Europe isn't suitable to grow coca so it makes no sense. Europeans have no real reason to immigrate to USA as the quality of life in their own nations is quite high. I am not looking up pointless stats to prove shit we already know. Common sense shit dude. You clearly are in dire need of some everyday simple logic. Honestly, a middle school child could have told us all that.

Now I will state this again for you and I can't be more clear. I don't give a fuck who smuggles drugs into the country! I am not racist! Republicans don't care who smuggles drugs into the country!! Republicans are not racist!! Republicans and all Americans care about preventing drugs from entering the country. We all care about preventing drug addiction and over dose deaths. I never claimed this was a moral issue with Latin Americans. It is just reality, the drugs come from Latin America, so if you want to stop the drug addiction and over doses, you secure the border. You remove people smuggling those drugs who are here illegally or legally and yes Spidy, you imprison drug dealers and smugglers when they are American. Throw their ass in jail and let them rot. If the drugs were coming from Sweden, I would feel exactly the same way. Remove illegal Swedish immigrants and stop letting Swedish people in illegally. Plain and simple.

That is not a policy rooted in "prejudice". It is not a "claim" where the drugs are coming from. It is "fact" the drugs come from Latin American drug cartels. The same cartels which heavily corrupt and influence those nations politicians which encourage this massive invasion of illegals. That is "fact".

It is "fact" hundreds of thousands of Americans and Mexicans have died in this drug war the last few decades. Both murders and overdoes. It is completely irresponsible on behalf of Democrats to ignore this issue and open the border up the way Biden did. They are clearly morally bankrupt evil psychopaths for trying to turn this into a race issue which is appalling.

I don't understand why that is racist, but again, it was never about race to you, it's about Democrats winning elections. So keep calling Republicans racist by fighting for an open drug and open border policy.

Now, let's say your facts are even true. Personally I think it's total bullshit. I have seen so much fake news from Dems they have no credibility. But fine, you found a link which shows only 19% of smugglers caught are illegals. If I am a Mexican cartel and I want my product worth millions of dollars to get into the country without being seized, I am probably going to hire a person from that country. Probably why it is a higher rate of Americans, the border patrol is most likely highly suspicious of Mexicans. This is irrelevant though, as I stated before, the source of the drugs is still Latin America.

As I already stated, if you force me to choose between open border chaos and a secure border and the removal of immigrants, I support the removal all day. I am not for letting people waltz into the USA and work and use our resources and they don't pay taxes and I do. And for all the 100,000 allegedly illegal Irish immigrants, they can get the fuck out too just the same. They are a thumb nail fraction compared to 10-25 million, but they should get the fuck out too!

100,00 Irish vs 10-25 million Latin Americans. Why are we wasting forum space discussing this? It's just so stupid to argue.

Was this post a logical fallacy or did it show my cognitive dissonance LOL? Now tell me another story about how the "brown shirts" are racist like any one gives a fuck LOL.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3036043]Trump effect: to make a not even born in USA Muslim becoming mayor of the most famous town of whole America, so funny, when he hates Muslims. Wake up USA when your MAGA is really falling very down, when always bullshiting is not enough to work.[/QUOTE][URL]https://youtu.be/4LTCYRWRj4U?si=R7Gur2-EAR2S6NL6[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3036259][NOPARSE]Is this senility, ignorance or stupidity? Or all of the aforementioned?

I have to wonder, as this is about the 3rd or 4th time you've asked the same question, on some variation of European immigration. To which I've already replied and answered your question.[/NOPARSE]
[LIST]Here, let me remind you of what I previously said, and I'll even highlight it and put it in BOLD, so you don't forget. I said, [i][b]"...I dunno, you tell me! "[/b][/i][/LIST][U]However:[/U][NOPARSE]

Interestingly enough though...another one of your gullible MAGA suckers, did provide a BBC article, that showed, of the 100,000 European Irish illegal folk in America, only 0.1% were deport last year. So if that is representative European [/NOPARSE]illegals, [B]I think you owe MDS1, nice big THANK YOU, for proving my point,[/B] that not much is being done on the Europeans.[/QUOTE]And to make this even more clear because I know you will give a coward response and try to tap dance around the issue of illegal drugs killing Americans. BTW, Robert Deniro's son just sadly accidently over dosed on these deadly, not that you care because your a coward Democrat, and not all Democrats are cowards like you, who just ignores people dying to win elections. There are many reasonable Democrats who don't suffer from TDS who clearly understand the simple logic in my post.

Law enforcement when trying to get drugs off the streets don't really care about the low level dealer. That low level dealer is a nobody and he will be replaced in 2 seconds should he be locked up. The drugs will be back on the street almost instantly.

The goal of Law enforcement is to capture the source or the people who are pumping the drugs out on a mass scale to the low level dealers.

Border Patrol is the same, the smuggler is a "pawn" in the game of drug smuggling. The Cartel or source is the "King" that Law enforcement needs to capture to eliminate the drug flow. The problem is that is almost impossible when the cartel is in a foreign nation. The next logical solution is to secure the border and remove people from that country who may engage in smuggling or dealing deadly drugs like fentanyl.

So when I say, "I don't care who brings it in" I really don't. Paco and Juan are just evil scumbag pawns. They are worthless nothings. The real policy which will solve this problem, is border security and immigration enforcement.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3036035]They need to move right and they are moving further to the left lolololololol.

WOW A Communist born in Uganda and a couple more feminist vaginas on the very blue East Coast NJ and Va.

There's an axiom, when you're in a HOLE stop digging LMMFAO.

Allahu Akbar indeed.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/11/06/nolte-nancy-pelosi-officially-announces-her-retirement/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/11/06/speaker-mike-johnson-nancy-pelosi-retirement-an-important-sign-party-not-radical-enough-for-the-marxists/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/11/06/lawmakers-call-to-pass-pelosi-act-banning-congressional-stock-trading-in-honor-of-nancy-pelosis-retirement/[/URL]

After Repub MAGA Trump blithers and blathers his usual incoherent gobbledygook non answer word salad and lies that are celebrated by the White House Press Corp and most of typically pro Repub Mainstream Media as "taking questions", he is finally pressed by the extremely rare follow up question trying to cut through his usual incoherent gobbledygook and lies to a point where the first dribble of truth about his historically high Tax Increases on the American Working Men and Women Consumers came spilling out of his lying pie hole:

[B]Trump acknowledges Americans are paying 'something' for tariffs.
November 7, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/video/watch/idRW014006112025RP1/[/URL]

See video.

Of course, American Working Men and Women Consumers pay virtually all of the historically high Trump Tariffs Tax Increases. Which at this point has added only a few hundred billion dollars to the Federal Coffers and nothing close to even 1 Trillion. In exchange for the Trillions and Trillions his Big Beautiful Disgusting Abomination Tax Cuts For Billionaires and Fuck Everybody Else bill added to his already record high deficits, that is.

But it probably did factor in to producing that sweet little off-year election Blue Wave this week. So at least America finally got something positive and of genuine value out of a Repub MAGA Trump tax and economic policy. Which is only the second time that has happened, the election of Biden-Harris in 2020 being the first.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3036122]Please tell us where the 100 million euros plus in Louvre gems have gone?

[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/10/23/zohran-mamdani-my-politics-are-built-on-extending-human-rights-to-queer-and-trans-ugandans/[/URL]

He will make a priceless National TV avatar for GOP TV spots.[/QUOTE]Do You know about many of yours, not poor ones, coming to my little beloved France for retirement, even before Trump bullshits now, to get health care for free, when they never paid tax in France, but they know they can be cured for free only in France. Shame on them, to rob my country, when I pay tax for them. When not much American dream now, but France is eldorado where foreigners come to fuck those who pay tax like me, reason why we pay the highest tax all over the world, to cure foreigners like Americans.

Add this to those record high layoffs Trump's economic policies and stewardship has produced:

[B]Shutdown means another missed jobs report. What it probably would have shown[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/07/shutdown-means-missed-jobs-report-friday-what-it-probably-would-have-shown.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Jobs Friday wont be happening again this week as the record-long government shutdown has resulted in a lack of official data on the labor market as well as a host of other important indicators.

Had the Bureau of Labor Statistics released its monthly nonfarm payrolls report, economists surveyed by Dow Jones expect it would have shown a [b]decline of 60,000 jobs and an unemployment rate increase to 4.5%.[/b]

Other data points collected over the past several weeks paint a broad mosaic of a weak though not collapsing labor market.[/QUOTE]Seriously. To plunge the American economy into this deep of an abyss after inheriting The Envy of the World Economy from Biden-Harris just 10 months ago requires a rare kind of America-hating Repub "wild coincidence, weird economic cycle, witch's curse, bad luck, he's really a Dem" Know Nothing, Do Nothing Repub talent!

By god I think we're witnessing a triple "Worst Since Another Repub Did It" event here!

[B]October monthly job cuts surged to a 22-year high.
Nearly 1.1 million job cuts have been announced so far this year, the most since 2020, according to the research firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas.
Nov. 6, 2025[/B]

[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/job-cuts-layoffs-october-challenger-rcna242306[/URL]

[QUOTE]U.S.-based companies announced more than 153,000 job cuts in October, the research firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas reported Thursday.

This is the highest total for October in over 20 years, and the highest total for a single month in the fourth quarter since 2008," the firm said in a news release.
..........
Despite the wave of downbeat economic news, the Trump administration continues to deliver an upbeat take on the current environment.

Jobs are booming and inflation is falling, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said Tuesday.

However, the most recent available data paints a different picture.

Inflation has also been on the rise. Prices as measured by the Consumer Price Index overall have risen every month since April.

A spokesperson for the Treasury Department did not immediately reply to a request for comment on the Challenger report.[/QUOTE]So, let's see; There is one "Worst Since" Repub GW Bush 2003 in there, followed by a "Worst Since" Repub Trump was so-called president in 2020 and another "Worst Since" GW Bush was so-called president in 2008!

The 'Two Weeks' TACO Trump Tariffs Taxes Triple Triumph!

Of course, this is only a 'Democrat' Hoax and Fake News by people who need to take medication.

As everybody knows.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3036339]Do You know about many of yours, not poor ones, coming to my little beloved France for retirement, even before Trump bullshits now, to get health care for free, when they never paid tax in France, but they know they can be cured for free only in France. Shame on them, to rob my country, when I pay tax for them. When not much American dream now, but France is eldorado where foreigners come to fuck those who pay tax like me, reason why we pay the highest tax all over the world, to cure foreigners like Americans.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/11/world/europe/france-is-busing-homeless-immigrants-out-of-paris-before-the-olympics.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3036339]Do You know about many of yours, not poor ones, coming to my little beloved France for retirement, even before Trump bullshits now, to get health care for free, when they never paid tax in France, but they know they can be cured for free only in France. Shame on them, to rob my country, when I pay tax for them. When not much American dream now, but France is eldorado where foreigners come to fuck those who pay tax like me, reason why we pay the highest tax all over the world, to cure foreigners like Americans.[/QUOTE]For medical care needs a brain transplant.

That's like going to the junkyard looking for a nice car lololololol.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3036297]But it probably did factor in to producing [b]that sweet little off-year election Blue Wave this week.[/b] So at least America finally got something positive and of genuine value out of a Repub MAGA Trump tax and economic policy. Which is only the second time that has happened, the election of Biden-Harris in 2020 being the first.[/QUOTE]Yes, that Big Blue Wave Win, just this week, has the Democrats fired-up and getting ready rumble and redraw those anti-MAGA redistricting maps, in VA, PA, NJ, NY and CA.

[U]The Blue Wave and The Big Wins in the 2025 Election:[/U]

[NOPARSE]Big Win, especially due to the [/NOPARSE][I][b]record high voter turnouts,[/b][/I] in every part of the country, and the [I][b]massive double-digit wins.[/b][/I] and several key wins in a ruby red districts / counties. Not too mention, a reported +65% win rate, out of the 220 candidates on the ballots, around the country. [NOPARSE]

New York City Mayor, Zohran Mamdani
Minneapolis Mayor, Jacob Frey
Atlanta Mayor, Andre Dickens
Detroit Mayor, Mary Sheffield
Pittsburgh Mayor, Corey O'Connor
Cincinnati Mayor, Aftab Pureval

New Jersey Governor, Mikie Sherrill
New Jersey, Democrats picked up 5 House state seats
Virginia Governor, Abigail Spanberger
Virginia Attorney General, Jay Jones
Virginia Lieutenant Governor, Ghazala Hashmi
Virginia, Democrats picked up 13 House state seats

Pennsylvania Supreme Court, Justices all three Democratic justices retained (David Wecht, Christine Donohue, Kevin Dougherty)
Georgia Public Service Commission, Peter Hubbard & Alicia Johnson Democrats flipped two seats on this statewide utility regulatory board
Mississippi, Democrats broke the Republican supermajority by flipping 2 seats

AND:

California Proposition 50, passed with nearly 65% (and nearly 8 million turnout)[/NOPARSE].

[U]Super Majority Houses:[/U]

The wins extended deep into down-ballot races, as Democrats expanded their control in the Virginia House and New Jersey of Delegates and gained a supermajority in both House General Assembles. [NOPARSE]

Other key wins include Taylor Rehmet (who spent $68,000), against the millions spent by two billionaire backed Repub candidates, with a runoff to decide in Jan 2026. Kaitlyn Whitling, Andrew Harbaugh, Helen Hampikian, win 3 out of 4, Council seats in Clarion, PA, a red district that voted 70% for the MAGA Fuhrer, in 2024.[/NOPARSE].

[B]The fear mongering anti-immigration Aurora (CO) Council,[/B][NOPARSE] lead by Danielle Jurinsky, was ousted, by a sweep of progressives, which saw all five (5) contested seats flipped, and a once Republican (7-3) conservative majority, turned to a Democrat (6-4) progressive majority council, once again in a deep red Trump district.[/NOPARSE].

So by all accounts, it wasn't just a "big win", it was a HUGE colossal WIN for Democrats!

[QUOTE=RamDavidson84;3036275]Now I will state this again for you and I can't be more clear. I don't give a fuck who smuggles drugs into the country! I am not racist! Republicans don't care who smuggles drugs into the country!! Republicans are not racist!! Republicans and all Americans care about preventing drugs from entering the country. We all care about preventing drug addiction and over dose deaths. I never claimed this was a moral issue with Latin Americans.[/QUOTE]Sure whatever you say! Still waiting for something or anything that you post on immigration (or otherwise) that is actual based, rooted or grounded in actual facts data or real findings, where it's not just all [B][i]"LIP SERVICE",[/i][/B] and [B][i]baseless OPINIONS,[/i][/B] that IMHO, don't exactly serve to make yourself seem like an intelligent debater?

Don't get me wrong, OPINIONS are fine and welcomed (if stated as such), but unless substantiated, can tend to be like assholes, everyone has them, and can suffer from uncontrollable constipation dump, from time to time. Again I enjoy debating the political issues of the day, but it's never a debate when one side is simply throwing out baseless opinions.

So ask yourself, [B]are you [u]REALLY[/u], here to have a debate about immigration/politics,[/B] or just throwing out opinions and having a bit fun, with the odd smattering of insults?