Manila

[QUOTE=Goferring;2884093]What can I say? I'm a classy guy.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. Ahem. AHEM. Didn't you recently describe deep-throating and face-bangin' them Cebuanas?

[QUOTE=Goferring;2884093]Hard to believe that western women won't fuck me and I have to resort to impoverished and illiterate village girls, isn't it? 😁.[/QUOTE]The stories I could tell about western women's attitudes and entitlement*.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2883977]dick in one hand [/QUOTE]By chance do you work for the NSA? Have you been peering thru my laptop cam at me while intercepting my fav porn website?

* Apology. I should say 'some western women'. In fairness I have also been with all-around good-girl western ladies who never exhibited entitlement.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2884120]Hahaha. Ahem. AHEM. Didn't you recently describe deep-throating and face-bangin' them Cebuanas?




The stories I could tell about western women's attitudes and entitlement*.[/QUOTE]Well, that was their fault, not mine. We were discussing the finer points of Quantum Mechanics and then they forced them selves upon me. I tried to run but was totally defenseless.

I'll have to take your word on that. I'm 30 years White Trash clean and sober.

Stay strong!!

G.

Looks like LA Cafe has a new name: Midnight Haven.

According to this YT vid: [URL]https://youtu.be/fxNoJeYtK-8?si=eHP5V2Ro1pJ1uURk&t=358[/URL].

But from what I see in the video, no changes inside. Yet.

I'll be there in mid-March for a day after spending almost a month in Angeles and I'm planning on pulling a FL the night before I fly home. Hopefully, that will make a nice nightcap report to my vacation.

I was surprised to find out that prostitution was illegal in The Philippines. Has anyone had any trouble with the police over this?

[QUOTE=HunterMonger;2883661]SA Manila can be hit and miss.

I had all set up before landing in Manila, even with a backup option.

Both the girls were amazing and confirmed with the video call but they changed their mind after I landed. I guess It also depends on the girls you chose.

BTW how did you find girls on reddit.[/QUOTE]Yeah this is why I won't get a SA membership. There is no guarantee and can just be a waste of money.

To find girls on Reddit I did a few different things. Firstly I just searched for 'Manila sd' and messaged the accounts who had been looking in the past year. Secondly I went on the Philippines nsfw subreddits and messaged girls posting pics there. There is also a subreddit for girls advertising their services or 'walks' as they are called. I also messaged these girls.

I found about 4 or 5 potential girls from my search. Some girls mention in their Reddit bios if they just sell content and don't meet, so I didn't waste my time with them. Some girls suggest they would be able to book (but only after you subscribe to their nsfw channel), so I avoided them.

Of the girls I've narrowed down I have agreed terms and have been chatting to two very regularly. One girl is new to sugaring but is very eager and has sent me nudes and voice notes whenever I've asked. She also hasn't asked for any money yet, so I think she could be the one.

Overall the search would definitely be quicker and more productive on SA. But I think the price of membership for what the offer is extortionate. It's also been quiet at work, so this is something fun to do at my desk haha. I also enjoy the messaging and seeing if a girl is interested.

I recently came back from a trip to the Philippines. I met a girl about six weeks before I came through a friend of hers that had been on Pinalove. We chatted for a couple of days and progressed to video calls after that. She was a province girl, and, after three weeks of chatting, I offered to fly her to Manila to meet when I came if she wanted to. She agreed (cost round trip ticket in December was about 6 k pesos).

Before we met, she never asked for money. In our conversations, I asked what her goals were and it was to open her own business when she had enough money. I wanted to help her, but she was hesitant. She didn't want me to think she was after money. I invested in her dream - 20 k pesos. I asked her to meet me again when I was leaving the country in early January, even before we met in person the first time. Cost round trip ticket in early January was around 7500 pesos. I bought the tickets myself using my own account with CP and PAL, and did not give her money for that.

We didn't really talk about sex too much before we met, except that she was really attracted to me. But we did get close to one another. She showed me how she spent the money I had sent to her, and how it was starting to pay off for her. She got to Manila a few hours before me and checked into our condo and got everything ready. When I came in, she met me at the door with a hug and a kiss, and we went straight to the bed.

She was not very experienced sexually, and it showed. She was 21 and just didn't sleep around before. But she made up for it with enthusiasm and a desire to please. Eight creampies in 30 hours before I had to leave. I just paid for our food and her grab to the airport. She didn't ask for or want money.

Over the next few weeks, we kept talking on chat and video call while I was in the province. She didn't ask for money, but I did send her a Christmas gift to her GCash so she could buy something her whole family could use. That's what she asked for when I told her I wanted to give her a Christmas gift. 4 k pesos.

We met again in early January at the airport. She came with two gifts for me that she bought on her own. Both custom-made items that were very sweet and thoughtful. We spent two days together. Two days pretty much naked and fucking when we weren't eating or sleeping. We didn't leave the hotel room once. Nine creampies. And she had to really work for the last one the morning before we left because I don't do viagra at all and I was pretty much spent. Again, I paid just the food and our grab to the airport, which is negligible expense that I would have paid anyway.

So, it was 3. 5 days together. 17 creampies and a couple that I didn't finish on top of that, if you just look at it from that perspective. 37,500 pesos. Of which 24 k was cash given to her. The rest was airfare I paid for her plane tickets on my own accounts. I broke every rule here. I chatted her for weeks before we met. I gave her money before we met. But, dang, the results were pure GFE bliss that I had only experienced with my partner before. She doesn't want my money all the time. It's a pride issue for her. But she is working a wonder with the business she started using the money I sent to her.

I'll admit that this turned sideways from what I was looking for. I found quite a girlfriend when I was just looking for fun originally. All of this to say that: 1) Not every pinay will see you as a walking ATM machine, and, 2) If you put in the work, it can pay out in spades if you find the right girl.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2884714]I recently came back from a trip to the Philippines. I met a girl about six weeks before I came through a friend of hers that had been on Pinalove. We chatted for a couple of days and progressed to video calls after that. She was a province girl, and, after three weeks of chatting, I offered to fly her to Manila to meet when I came if she wanted to. She agreed (cost round trip ticket in December was about 6 k pesos).

Before we met, she never asked for money. In our conversations, I asked what her goals were and it was to open her own business when she had enough money. I wanted to help her, but she was hesitant. She didn't want me to think she was after money. I invested in her dream - 20 k pesos. I asked her to meet me again when I was leaving the country in early January, even before we met in person the first time. Cost round trip ticket in early January was around 7500 pesos. I bought the tickets myself using my own account with CP and PAL, and did not give her money for that.

We didn't really talk about sex too much before we met, except that she was really attracted to me. But we did get close to one another. She showed me how she spent the money I had sent to her, and how it was starting to pay off for her. She got to Manila a few hours before me and checked into our condo and got everything ready. When I came in, she met me at the door with a hug and a kiss, and we went straight to the bed.

She was not very experienced sexually, and it showed. She was 21 and just didn't sleep around before. But she made up for it with enthusiasm and a desire to please. Eight creampies in 30 hours before I had to leave. I just paid for our food and her grab to the airport. She didn't ask for or want money.

Over the next few weeks, we kept talking on chat and video call while I was in the province. She didn't ask for money, but I did send her a Christmas gift to her GCash so she could buy something her whole family could use. That's what she asked for when I told her I wanted to give her a Christmas gift. 4 k pesos.

We met again in early January at the airport. She came with two gifts for me that she bought on her own. Both custom-made items that were very sweet and thoughtful. We spent two days together. Two days pretty much naked and fucking when we weren't eating or sleeping. We didn't leave the hotel room once. Nine creampies. And she had to really work for the last one the morning before we left because I don't do viagra at all and I was pretty much spent. Again, I paid just the food and our grab to the airport, which is negligible expense that I would have paid anyway.

So, it was 3. 5 days together. 17 creampies and a couple that I didn't finish on top of that, if you just look at it from that perspective. 37,500 pesos. Of which 24 k was cash given to her. The rest was airfare I paid for her plane tickets on my own accounts. I broke every rule here. I chatted her for weeks before we met. I gave her money before we met. But, dang, the results were pure GFE bliss that I had only experienced with my partner before. She doesn't want my money all the time. It's a pride issue for her. But she is working a wonder with the business she started using the money I sent to her.

I'll admit that this turned sideways from what I was looking for. I found quite a girlfriend when I was just looking for fun originally. All of this to say that: 1) Not every pinay will see you as a walking ATM machine, and, 2) If you put in the work, it can pay out in spades if you find the right girl.[/QUOTE]You are a good man Aml3740,if Karma is real you should be sitting pretty.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2883977]A couple of points:

Montana Manager's point is correct in that hookers "should" be mechanical and purely commercial but, in the Philippines, this isn't always the case. I've lost track of the number of professional girls I've had a great time with and been happy to keep for weeks at a time.

With respect, I can guarantee that the SB is telling the same stories to other guys and has several sponsors on the line at the same time.

It's your money and you are free to spend it any way you see fit. However, you seem concerned about loosing her if you do not maintain progress payments while you are back home. This has literally never happened to me. Girls have always been happy to see me when I've popped up in town, dick in one hand and cash in the other, despite having not chatted / paid them in my absence.

You didn't mention her allowance expectations but if you are still concerned, then calculate the total that you will pay over the X months you are away. How popular do you think you will be if you arrive and offer her a fraction of this amount for a night / week's fun?

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I don't think in the truest sense of the word Filipina's don't consider themselves hookers or prostitutes'. As in bars they flirt with you and if they like you they go. Not that it doesn't happened but I've not heard of someone walking in point at a girl and says lets go, I'm ready to fuck. Its not a working girl house and I'm sure 99% of the time the girl would give you a eat shit look and say no. I think they kid themselves in pretending you are a guy they just liked in a bar and go like a one night stand, but they get paid. Is that prostitution, well yes but so is a girlfriend at home who wants 500 dollar shoes but they don't look at it that way either. What they are best at is you are their long lost love who is back in town. Their GFE is some of the best I've experienced, especially if she is a regular. But if you have regulars so does she. The next regular guy in her list will get the same treatment as you, the love of her life. Funny in a bar several years ago chatting with a guy from Australia and he was disappointed a regular of his was out sick. Got a photo, hehehe yeah she was sick alright in my room from too much drinking the night before. I assured him in a day or two she will be back I'm sure. He said yeah, Ill just call another regular I know or maybe grab a new one. Did I confront her about this later, nah no point as it is what it is. Just be cautious getting too attached to these girls, wife or girlfriend material they are not.

Excellent FR! Thanks for sharing.

I visited there nearly 8 months ago, first time, my expectation was to meet a genuine non pro girl and total GFE.

Fortunately I found the one on SA, she was young, amazingly beautiful, non pro girl. Experience was mostly like a GF BF during my stay in Manila, but Once I left she kept asking for money which I could not resist much as she sounded.

Always had fear of loosing her and not meeting her again in future. Some time I also felt what senior members has said before that she might be seeing many men while I am away. I also feel that ph sa girls have many sad stories to tell and financials needs.

Anyways, After reading your FR I feel like you had much better experience than what I had. I think that SA girl can be good but most of them are glorified escorts only, some of them are non pro but all have a P**sy power to utilize you emotionally. Can't agree more that Ph girls gives grt GFE to the point sometime its enough to fool SD emotionally.

Don't know how to deal with my girl, she is amazing but giving her money every now and then is hard particularly when I don't get much in return and I am away. And I can see she is active on SA everyday.

I am glad that you found the right match. Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2884714]I recently came back from a trip to the Philippines. I met a girl about six weeks before I came through a friend of hers that had been on Pinalove. We chatted for a couple of days and progressed to video calls after that. She was a province girl, and, after three weeks of chatting, I offered to fly her to Manila to meet when I came if she wanted to. She agreed (cost round trip ticket in December was about 6 k pesos).

Before we met, she never asked for money. In our conversations, I asked what her goals were and it was to open her own business when she had enough money. I wanted to help her, but she was hesitant. She didn't want me to think she was after money. I invested in her dream - 20 k pesos. I asked her to meet me again when I was leaving the country in early January, even before we met in person the first time. Cost round trip ticket in early January was around 7500 pesos. I bought the tickets myself using my own account with CP and PAL, and did not give her money for that.

We didn't really talk about sex too much before we met, except that she was really attracted to me. But we did get close to one another. She showed me how she spent the money I had sent to her, and how it was starting to pay off for her. She got to Manila a few hours before me and checked into our condo and got everything ready. When I came in, she met me at the door with a hug and a kiss, and we went straight to the bed.

She was not very experienced sexually, and it showed. She was 21 and just didn't sleep around before. But she made up for it with enthusiasm and a desire to please. Eight creampies in 30 hours before I had to leave. I just paid for our food and her grab to the airport. She didn't ask for or want money.

Over the next few weeks, we kept talking on chat and video call while I was in the province. She didn't ask for money, but I did send her a Christmas gift to her GCash so she could buy something her whole family could use. That's what she asked for when I told her I wanted to give her a Christmas gift. 4 k pesos.

We met again in early January at the airport. She came with two gifts for me that she bought on her own. Both custom-made items that were very sweet and thoughtful. We spent two days together. Two days pretty much naked and fucking when we weren't eating or sleeping. We didn't leave the hotel room once. Nine creampies. And she had to really work for the last one the morning before we left because I don't do viagra at all and I was pretty much spent. Again, I paid just the food and our grab to the airport, which is negligible expense that I would have paid anyway.

So, it was 3. 5 days together. 17 creampies and a couple that I didn't finish on top of that, if you just look at it from that perspective. 37,500 pesos. Of which 24 k was cash given to her. The rest was airfare I paid for her plane tickets on my own accounts. I broke every rule here. I chatted her for weeks before we met. I gave her money before we met. But, dang, the results were pure GFE bliss that I had only experienced with my partner before. She doesn't want my money all the time. It's a pride issue for her. But she is working a wonder with the business she started using the money I sent to her.

I'll admit that this turned sideways from what I was looking for. I found quite a girlfriend when I was just looking for fun originally. All of this to say that: 1) Not every pinay will see you as a walking ATM machine, and, 2) If you put in the work, it can pay out in spades if you find the right girl.[/QUOTE]

Excellent FR! Thanks for sharing.

I visited Manila last year for the first time, my expectation was to meet a genuine non pro girl and total GFE.

Fortunately I found the one on SA, she was young, amazingly beautiful, non pro girl. Experience was mostly like a GF BF during my stay in Manila, but Once I left she kept asking for money which I could not resist much as she sounded.

Always had a fear of loosing her and not meeting her again in future. Some time I also felt what senior members has said before that she might be seeing many men while I am away. I also feel that ph sa girls have many sad stories to tell and financials needs.

Anyways, After reading your FR I feel like you had much better experience than what I had. I think that SA girl can be good but most of them are glorified escorts only, some of them are non pro but all have a P**sy power to utilize you emotionally. Can't agree more that Ph girls gives grt GFE to the point sometime its enough to fool SD emotionally.

Don't know how to deal with my girl, she is amazing but giving her money every now and then is hard particularly when I don't get much in return and I am away. And I can see she is active on SA everyday.

I am glad that you found the right match. Happy mongering.

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2884714]I recently came back from a trip to the Philippines. I met a girl about six weeks before I came through a friend of hers that had been on Pinalove. We chatted for a couple of days and progressed to video calls after that. She was a province girl, and, after three weeks of chatting, I offered to fly her to Manila to meet when I came if she wanted to. She agreed (cost round trip ticket in December was about 6 k pesos).

Before we met, she never asked for money. In our conversations, I asked what her goals were and it was to open her own business when she had enough money. I wanted to help her, but she was hesitant. She didn't want me to think she was after money. I invested in her dream - 20 k pesos. I asked her to meet me again when I was leaving the country in early January, even before we met in person the first time. Cost round trip ticket in early January was around 7500 pesos. I bought the tickets myself using my own account with CP and PAL, and did not give her money for that.

We didn't really talk about sex too much before we met, except that she was really attracted to me. But we did get close to one another. She showed me how she spent the money I had sent to her, and how it was starting to pay off for her. She got to Manila a few hours before me and checked into our condo and got everything ready. When I came in, she met me at the door with a hug and a kiss, and we went straight to the bed.

She was not very experienced sexually, and it showed. She was 21 and just didn't sleep around before. But she made up for it with enthusiasm and a desire to please. Eight creampies in 30 hours before I had to leave. I just paid for our food and her grab to the airport. She didn't ask for or want money.

Over the next few weeks, we kept talking on chat and video call while I was in the province. She didn't ask for money, but I did send her a Christmas gift to her GCash so she could buy something her whole family could use. That's what she asked for when I told her I wanted to give her a Christmas gift. 4 k pesos.

We met again in early January at the airport. She came with two gifts for me that she bought on her own. Both custom-made items that were very sweet and thoughtful. We spent two days together. Two days pretty much naked and fucking when we weren't eating or sleeping. We didn't leave the hotel room once. Nine creampies. And she had to really work for the last one the morning before we left because I don't do viagra at all and I was pretty much spent. Again, I paid just the food and our grab to the airport, which is negligible expense that I would have paid anyway.

So, it was 3. 5 days together. 17 creampies and a couple that I didn't finish on top of that, if you just look at it from that perspective. 37,500 pesos. Of which 24 k was cash given to her. The rest was airfare I paid for her plane tickets on my own accounts. I broke every rule here. I chatted her for weeks before we met. I gave her money before we met. But, dang, the results were pure GFE bliss that I had only experienced with my partner before. She doesn't want my money all the time. It's a pride issue for her. But she is working a wonder with the business she started using the money I sent to her.

I'll admit that this turned sideways from what I was looking for. I found quite a girlfriend when I was just looking for fun originally. All of this to say that: 1) Not every pinay will see you as a walking ATM machine, and, 2) If you put in the work, it can pay out in spades if you find the right girl.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aml3740;2884714]I recently came back from a trip to the Philippines. I met a girl about six weeks before I came through a friend of hers that had been on Pinalove. We chatted for a couple of days and progressed to video calls after that. She was a province girl, and, after three weeks of chatting, I offered to fly her to Manila to meet when I came if she wanted to. She agreed (cost round trip ticket in December was about 6 k pesos).

Before we met, she never asked for money. In our conversations, I asked what her goals were and it was to open her own business when she had enough money. I wanted to help her, but she was hesitant. She didn't want me to think she was after money. I invested in her dream - 20 k pesos. I asked her to meet me again when I was leaving the country in early January, even before we met in person the first time. Cost round trip ticket in early January was around 7500 pesos. I bought the tickets myself using my own account with CP and PAL, and did not give her money for that.

We didn't really talk about sex too much before we met, except that she was really attracted to me. But we did get close to one another. She showed me how she spent the money I had sent to her, and how it was starting to pay off for her. She got to Manila a few hours before me and checked into our condo and got everything ready. When I came in, she met me at the door with a hug and a kiss, and we went straight to the bed..[/QUOTE]Price per pound was very decent. That is one measurement.

GFE is priceless! Best measurement.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2884910]I don't think in the truest sense of the word Filipina's don't consider themselves hookers or prostitutes'. As in bars they flirt with you and if they like you they go. Not that it doesn't happened but I've not heard of someone walking in point at a girl and says lets go, I'm ready to fuck....[/QUOTE]Totally true. I've had countless girls who didn't consider themselves hookers and would object to any sex for money requests. However, they were forever ready to accept "taxi fares" or "go buy that nice dress" funds.

I have a friend who was a cop and he often discussed guys that would immediately go in angry, kicking down doors. He always said that if you start angry, then you can never scale it back to a calm conversation. Girls are the same. Lots will be offended by direct requests for $100 short times and end the discussion but I've had many others who, when asked to meet, professed to be "too tired to meet for coffee. How about we just relax in your room?

Enjoy. G.

I have a layover In MNL in about 3 weeks. Thanks for any replies. Whatever happened to the casas? Any intel please PM. Thanks.

Never in Manila before, I will arrive on 16 January, first days hosted in Makati, anyone who wants to share a beer (and notes) just MP me.

How long is your layover?

[QUOTE=DCups;2885170]I have a layover In MNL in about 3 weeks. Thanks for any replies. Whatever happened to the casas? Any intel please PM. Thanks.[/QUOTE]