American Politics

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]Of course, you cannot follow. You are stuck on Biden good, solar good, lithium good, fossil fuel bad. [/QUOTE]I follow just fine thank you, if the person posing the question, knows how to properly frame a question.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]It is why Tiny and Subcommander gave up on you. [/QUOTE]Not sure what that has to do with anything, but that's funny, since from my POV, I'd thought they'd given up on YOU! [NOPARSE] Don't worry Elvis 2008, I haven't given up on you...YET![/NOPARSE].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]The cost of a solar powered system using batteries and a heat pump is in the range of $2000 to $5000 installed and the batteries add hundreds of pounds to the weight of the RV. All the other methods (lead acid batteries, propane heat, electric heat with a generator burning gasoline, propane, or diesel) run at most for $2 a night. [/QUOTE]Congratulations [NOPARSE]you've solved your problem then for a supposed $2/night? I'll do you one better, use an electric blanket for less than $0.50/nigh[/NOPARSE]t!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042743]Ah yes, but solar is free right and carbon neutral? No, you are burning more fossil fuel when you carry all that battery weight and once your batteries are exhausted if there is no sun, you have to go to shore power, plugging in a power cord, which is mostly generated via carbon sources. That is why carbon neutral is a fucking pipe dream.

I get the dream. You have an electric all wheel drive RV running on solar and battery. You can be cut off from the world and go wherever you want free from city sewage, water pipes, power lines, and internet cables.

And that is all it is, a dream because the batteries are just not good enough to compensate for when the wind stops blowing or the sun stops shining. The tech is just not there.

The irony is the carbon neutral vehicle that can be completely self-contained does exist. It is called a nuclear sub.[/QUOTE]So, am I [NOPARSE]to assume from that rant, solar doesn't work for you? That's okay, a RV solar/battery set up doesn't work for everyone, or within everyone's [/NOPARSE]budget.

It's okay, nothing wrong with sticking with fossil fuels! You do you, dude! What's important is, you stay nice and warm at nights!

But really, if you want more accurate answers or informational responses to your questions, that are related more to YOUR SPECIFIC circumstances, then you need to be more intentional with your questions.

What I'm saying is, I don't read minds! So unless YOU take the time to state your RV parameters, specifications, RV details or budgetary restrictions, to the question or problem (or any other), how would I know what solutions to present as viable, given your specific situation?

Check out YouTuber, [B]JerryRigEverything[/B] and the RV solar set he installed on his friend's RV, here:[B]EASIEST Off Grid RV Solar Power... just like a little Lego[/B] [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO23RTRIVGU[/URL] This is probably [NOPARSE]nothing like your setup, but I present it, as an example of what can be done, where solar/batteries are the primary energy source and propane/gas generator is used as [/NOPARSE]backup.

So, if you want better answers, the onus is on you, [B]to better frame the question or the problem properly![/B].

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042876]But really, if you want more accurate answers or informational responses to your questions, that are related more to YOUR SPECIFIC circumstances, then you need to be more intentional with your questions.[/QUOTE]My parameters are not interesting. Everyone's parameters are what is important. For me, AC not heat is the most important. I can heat up the RV using the engine, using propane, using a space heater with lead acid batteries being charged by an alternator and solar. The AC is much more problematic. I will have access to shore power most of the time, but shore power will not run the AC. For that, I have to turn on the generator. Any problem with the generator and I am screwed.

If I wanted a cost effective AC unit, I would have a power station with a 48 volt battery connection hooked up to shore power or solar. Solar power is direct current. The most cost effective AC unit is 48 volts, but it is not the most powerful AC unit, and I want all in.

The two most powerful AC units are the Furron Chill Cube and the Ecopower Gree. I chose the Gree because it does heat as well. These units are quiet, energy efficient, and can get a RV down to 65 degrees in 100 degree heat. I equipped it with a soft starter, and I will be running it totally on its own via a power station with added batteries if need be. I should have access to shore power and can charge the power station via shore power. I will be adding solar though as the ultimate backup but just in case I do not have access to shore power. This is a thousand dollar backup plan that most people would do without.

That is my situation, and most people would just live with propane heat and generator AC as it is so much cheaper than what I am going to do.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3042876]This is probably nothing like your setup, but I present it, as an example of what can be done, where solar/batteries are the primary energy source and propane/gas generator is used as backup.[/QUOTE]And I assume you like these guys think this is awesome? These guys seem to be impressed with themselves. "Everyone else I talk to that has solar they're like, oh you could run it max like one hour.

12:45 maybe two. " First off, these guys did not get a more efficient and quieter unit. They did not get an AC unit that runs on direct current nor did the get an A / see soft starter. Had they done so, they likely would have doubled the time their A / see could run.

Still, let's do a cost comparison as politically that is all that matters. These guys got 1,000 watts of solar power. They added on huge amounts of weight with all their equipment and still have a generator backup. Their system, which they got for free, costs $3500 and you would add in another few grand in installation fees.

In comparison, a generator does between 3000 and 4000 watts and costs dollars a day to run. And granted these guys are in Idaho, but what good is 9 hours of AC when it is 100 degrees out?

Unless you turn everything off and are peak sunny hours, you are much more likely to use shore power to charge your batteries, and shore power is half fossil fuels. Yes, you have solar AC for 9 hours and the other 15 are fossil fuel driven. Chances are that $5000 you are paying for "free energy" is going to end up being much more expensive than generator power.

So solar energy is not good for data centers, and it has zero chance of being carbon free generation. Solar makes sense in a few places. If the power goes out, and I have my solar panels with battery backup, I am probably going to be good until the power comes on.

But the reason their AC was on for more than an hour was not due to solar power. The gains were made via cheaper mass produced batteries and more efficient AC units. The battery cost was like 10 X this a few years ago.

Solar and wind are still more expensive than natural gas and coal, [URL]https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63485[/URL] although there may be some sunny and windy places where that is not true, but you Democrats with the Biden plan pushed solar and wind down everyone's throat when you said the planet was going to end if fossil fuels were used.

You guys even pushed it in New England, [URL]https://energybadboys.substack.com/p/wind-and-solar-up-to-12-times-more[/URL] "The true cost of wind and solar energy in New England is not competitive with that of natural gas. This is especially true for offshore wind, which, according to our modeling, will be twelve times more expensive than combined cycle (CC) natural gas in the region. This week we're going to show how the all-in cost of wind and solar energy in New England will be anywhere from six to twelve times more expensive in 2050 than the cost of existing natural gas when accounting for the cost of maintaining reliability. ".

That is stupid, and Germany was doing the same thing. Germany was doing solar while China is burning cheap coal, and the idiotic German government said that was okay, and you think what Germany is doing is great.

It just blows me away how binary you Dems are: solar good, fossil fuels bad, masks good, ivermectin bad, Biden angel, Trump devil. Dems have zero and I mean zero cost-benefit analysis skills.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3042782]In addition to the utterly predictable crap Repub / Trump economic and jobs creation numbers, Trillions added to Trump's deficits with zero to show for it in the economy, the rising unemployment rate and inflation rate and 30 year mortgage rate, this has nothing but the usual disastrous Trump Shit-and-Die Touch outcome written all over it.[/QUOTE]The first time I noticed where politics really mattered was driving. I left Chicago and entered Indiana. The roads changed from pothole ridden hell holes that signaled the apocalypse was near to smooth as silk pavement. I shook my head and thought, "Why does poor Indiana have better roads than rich Chicago?" I saw the same when traveling from NYC to New Jersey. NJ's roads were good. NYC's roads were hell, and this was like 20 years ago. I doubt things have changed.

I got a chance to see a part of the country. The RV I bought was in Utah. The Salt Lake City airport was newly added on to, massive, and so clean you could eat off the floor. I remember the American Idol crew going to Utah and saying how nice the people were, and I saw the same thing. People seemed friendly and happy. I was there decades ago and the city has grown like a weed.

Buying the RV was a snap. I was in and out of the dealer in like 20 minutes and then I hit the road. I did not notice it at the time but the roads were good. I wanted to go South as quickly as I could on my route back to Texas so even though google told me to go through Colorado, I headed South for Alberquerque. Still, I was in Colorado for an hour and noticed immediately the roads went down in quality not Indiana to Chicago bad, maybe half of that.

Then I hit New Mexico and I am shocked I did not blow a tire. Utah to New Mexico was Indiana to Chicago bad. I did hit a few decent roads, but New Mexico was the pits. And then came Texas and the roads went back to being smooth as silk. Were these shitty roads really due to Colorado and New Mexico being blue states?

I pulled into the amazing Buccee's store in Amarillo, Texas. Now that is an interesting story of a great Texas entrepreneur, but anyway, I looked at how much the gas cost and did a double take, [URL]https://www.gasbuddy.com/station/212232[/URL]

Gas is $1.86 per gallon there.

I talked to a friend of mine who was just in California. He confirmed the roads in San Diego were shit too, and said the gas was nearly $5 a gallon. Gas Buddy shows a decent price is $4. 55 in the San Diego area. [URL]https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/la-jolla[/URL]

Now there are some regional reasons for the difference in prices but the big one as everyone knows is taxes. Thing is everyone knows what is going on. The California pols are taking the gasoline tax money and paying people to vote for them and neglecting their roads. I am sure Texas has its own version of that, but it is nowhere near as bad.

If people saw the roads and gas prices / taxes like I did, the Democrats would not get one fucking vote in an election. Not one. That is why they have to lie and demonize Republicans and Trump. They want to scare people so badly as to not to believe their own eyes.

[URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-secret-that-the-dnc-must-never-reveal-why-they-lost-the-2024-elections/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042951]The first time I noticed where politics really mattered was driving. I left Chicago and entered Indiana. The roads changed from pothole ridden hell holes...
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I talked to a friend of mine who was just in California. He confirmed the roads in San Diego were shit too, and said the gas was nearly $5 a gallon. Gas Buddy shows a decent price is $4. 55 in the San Diego area. [URL]https://www.gasbuddy.com/gasprices/california/la-jolla[/URL]

Now there are some regional reasons for the difference in prices but the big one as everyone knows is taxes. [B]Thing is everyone knows what is going on. The California pols are taking the gasoline tax money and paying people to vote for them and neglecting their roads.[/b] I am sure Texas has its own version of that, but it is nowhere near as bad.

If people saw the roads and gas prices / taxes like I did, the Democrats would not get one fucking vote in an election. Not one. That is why they have to lie and demonize Republicans and Trump. They want to scare people so badly as to not to believe their own eyes.[/QUOTE]Says the Repub cult follower whose lord and savior is once again proposing that Congress send tax-funded emergency welfare checks out to voters with his name on them so as to ease some of the pain that his typical Repub crap economic policy and stewardship results have caused America. And do it in a hurry before next year's midterm elections hand his Party its ass and thereby puts an end to at least some of that pain.

Uh. If every American was offered a job in San Diego that afforded them a beach-side home in San Diego, La Jolla or any number of those beach-side neighborhoods, most of them would pack up Granny, Jethro, Elle May and the rocking chair and drive their pick-up through 1000 miles of potholes to get the hell out of Hootervile and Dead Man's Gulch to get to it.

The instant Trump tried to publicly humiliate and then fired the BLS official who dared to report the accurate Trump crap jobs or inflation numbers, the game changed for him and other Repub so-called presidents forever; from that moment on any good, "just ok" numbers like these or bad numbers reported must necessarily be assumed to have been doctored and massaged to appear much better than they really are.

[B]Trust these numbers? Economists see a lot of flaws in delayed CPI report[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/18/trust-these-numbers-economists-see-a-lot-of-flaws-in-delayed-cpi-report-showing-downward-inflation.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]Economists are viewing the delayed November consumer price index report with a dose of skepticism.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported that the annual headline inflation rate and core CPI rate for last month were 2.7% and 2.6%, respectively, well below expectations.

A chief point of concern is the way housing inflation was calculated, specifically the owners equivalent rent figure for November.[/QUOTE]As a fortunate landlord in a desirable neighborhood of a highly desirable Greater Metropolitan Blue City Area in a highly desirable Great Blue State, I can assure you rents increased a hell of a lot more than 3% in October, November and for all of 2025 vs 2024. But unless BLS officials are granted total immunity from attacks and retribution by Repub so-called presidents who insist that all jobs and inflation reports be doctored and massaged in order to make them look much, much better than they really are under their policies and stewardship, no economist, investor or project director can rely on a thing they report when a Repub is in the White House.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3043004]Says the Repub cult follower whose lord and savior is once again proposing that Congress send tax-funded emergency welfare checks out to voters with his name on them so as to ease some of the pain that his typical Repub crap economic policy and stewardship results have caused America. And do it in a hurry before next year's midterm elections hand his Party its ass and thereby puts an end to at least some of that pain.[/QUOTE]Typical Democrat. You cannot even admit it is wrong. All you losers ever say is, "Well, you guys do it too!" My new definition of a loser is someone who does something terrible and points to someone else and says, "But he is worse!" Yeesh.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3043004]Uh. If every American was offered a job in San Diego that afforded them a beach-side home in San Diego, La Jolla or any number of those beach-side neighborhoods, most of them would pack up Granny, Jethro, Elle May and the rocking chair and drive their pick-up through 1000 miles of potholes to get the hell out of Hootervile and Dead Man's Gulch to get to it.[/QUOTE]Man, talk about your California cockiness right there and from a guy living in Thailand. You are such a hypocrite and a foolish one at that. This American has been to Amarillo, San Diego, and driven from Tijuana down to Ensanada. Amarillo sits near the 7 milllion BPD Permian basin oil region. The world's beef prices are set in nearby Hereford. Milk production in the region would rank third nationally and that region is #1 in the world in cotton production. And the city, the largest in has just 200,000 residents. It is fucking drenched with money.

A guy in Amarillo making $100 k a year can buy a home and save money. For San Diego, a $100 k is like a living wage. You cannot afford a home there or save any money making that in San Diego.

Ah, but Elvis, you are missing the climate, the quality of life in San Diego. Oh, fuck that! An oceanside condo in San Diego will run you $3 million. Once you cross the border and go to nearby Roasarito on the Mexican side, the condos cost 10% of that, and I think the food, quality of life, roads and beauty are nicer in Rosarito and Baja than San Diego.

Hell, on the way down, you can stop at Hong Kong in Tijuana and bang a 10 for $150. If you can find a 10 type in San Diego, that too will cost you 10 X that amount of Baja and if she consents and gets paid and later feels badly about having sex with you, she can accuse you of rape. That is the California justice system for you.

Every American would rather split time and work in Amarillo and play in Baja than live in the homeless infested, overpriced, poorly kept up, taxed to death shit hole that is San Diego. Or rather every American who has been to these places.
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[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;3042989][URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/a-secret-that-the-dnc-must-never-reveal-why-they-lost-the-2024-elections/[/URL][/QUOTE]I can tell you the summery of the report.

"The American people really really hate Democrats" at least those of us with a brain and a soul.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042941]My parameters are not interesting. Everyone's parameters are what is important. For me, AC not heat is the most important. I can heat up the RV using the engine, using propane, using a space heater with lead acid batteries being charged by an alternator and solar. The AC is much more problematic. I will have access to shore power most of the time, but shore power will not run the AC. For that, I have to turn on the generator. Any problem with the generator and I am screwed.

If I wanted a cost effective AC unit, I would have a power station with a 48 volt battery connection hooked up to shore power or solar. Solar power is direct current. The most cost effective AC unit is 48 volts, but it is not the most powerful AC unit, [b]and I want all in.[/b][/QUOTE]It's to [NOPARSE]bad you can't get a solar/battery and AC configuration to work for you, at the price point you want. But there's no shame that, if sticking with fossil fuels for power generation works for you and battery weight is problematic. But make no mistake about it, there are plenty of RVers (and YouTubers making it work, just fine for them), that are boondocking on solar/battery/AC systems, more than 80-90% (and some 100%) of the time [/NOPARSE]off gird, with minimal to very little shore power usage.

They [NOPARSE]may have slightly bigger budgets than you, for their RV solar/battery/AC setups, but again, you never specified any budgetary constraints when you posed your question. And since you're always bragging and portraying [/NOPARSE]yourself [B]as the "Paycheck Superhero",[/B] so why would I assume, you couldn't afford such a RV setup?

[B]For example,[/B] with a setup of 1200 w of solar, 2 x 300 Ah Epoch Lithium Batteries, 3000 w Victron (AC to DC) Inverter, AC soft start kit, the YouTuber "SolarPowerMyRV" (Denver, CO), gives a real world RV example of running your AC unit off solar and ask the question, can RV Air Conditioner run on Solar Power? [B]Real World Demo (2:22 min)[/B] [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLgiXVnbQBs[/URL], Mar 21,2025. With no battery weight issues, at all!

Not sure of the costs associated with "SolarPowerMyRV"'s setup was, but in other DIY RVers videos (ie. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G-CWFRJq2k[/URL], We Attempted to DIY an [NOPARSE]RV Solar System with TILTING Panels (Cost Details!) 1,800w solar -- $14.5 K setup), yes the cost can be prohibitive, but these boondockers, all seem to say, in the end, it was worth it, and that the system paid for itself, as most are living off-grid (or without shore power), again, 80-90% of the [/NOPARSE]time.

Finally, many RVers, always seem come around and say, on of the same two (2) things. 1) wish I'd done solar sooner or 2) wish I'd put in more solar, if they started out small.

So if you're serious about [B]"...I want all in."[/B] it look like you're going to have to fork out some coin!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042941]So solar energy is not good for data centers, and it has zero chance of being carbon free generation. Solar makes sense in a few places.[/QUOTE]Again, [NOPARSE]tell that to China, with a 62% renewables grid. China's grid maybe not be a totally fossil free grid...yet, but just like South Australia that are now at 78% renewables grid, both have efforts and planning in place, that move them in the right direction of the flexible and resilient energy grids of tomorrow.

The U.S. electricity grids (under MAGA) not so much, although going backwards, [/NOPARSE]is a direction!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3042941]Solar and wind are still more expensive than natural gas and coal, [URL]https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=63485[/URL] although there may be some sunny and windy places where that is not true, but you Democrats with the Biden plan pushed solar and wind down everyone's throat when you said the planet was going to end if fossil fuels were used.[/QUOTE]Nice try, [NOPARSE] but that old U.S. EIA report from 2024, you are trying to pawn-off as recent data/info as the current cheapest sources energy, isn't going to cut-it. But it was a nice try!

Here are 2025 update reports on Solar and Wind, being the cheapest forms of energy:

1) In its 2025 energy outlook, the U.S. EIA found the cost of electricity generated from natural gas was $48.78 to $64.55 per megawatt hour to produce compared with $88.16 for [/NOPARSE]offshore wind, [B]$29.58 for onshore wind and $31.86 for solar.[/B] Aug. 25,2025 [URL]https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/environment/2025/08/25/are-wind-and-solar-responsible-for-higher-electricity-prices[/URL].

2) 91% of New Renewable Projects Now Cheaper Than Fossil Fuels Alternatives, 22 July, 2025 [URL]https://www.irena.org/News/pressreleases/2025/Jul/91-Percent-of-New-Renewable-Projects-Now-Cheaper-Than-Fossil-Fuels-Alternatives[/URL] The IRENA data shows, the cost advantage for new solar and wind is not marginal, but often by a whooping 40-50%.

3) Solar Now the World's Cheapest Energy, Powering the Clean Transition, October 9, 2025 [URL]https://carboncredits.com/solar-now-the-worlds-cheapest-energy-powering-the-clean-transition/[/URL] Solar [NOPARSE]energy has officially claimed the title of the world’s most affordable source of electricity. According to new research from the University of Surrey’s Advanced Technology Institute (ATI), solar power now costs as little as £0.02 per kilowatt-hour in the sunniest [/NOPARSE]regions.

And why TAXPAYERS will be the only ones paying the cost, the MAGA Fuhrer's failed energy policies, for money losing coal mines, just like our $40 bn right-wing welfare to farmers:

4) The [NOPARSE]U.S. Department of Energy is keeping unprofitable coal power plants alive despite massive financial losses, citing grid reliability and energy security. $3.1bn annual cost estimated for fossil fuel plants DOE won’t allow to retire. One coal plant owner reported it spent $29 million in the first 38 days of an Energy Department order to keep it online. Aug. 14, 2025 • Updated Aug. 18, [/NOPARSE]2025 [URL]https://www.utilitydive.com/news/doe-mandate-fossil-fueled-power-plants-emergency/757653/[/URL]

I'm really proud EU and also big thanks to Canada and Norway, keep on big support to so courageous Ukrainians, with 90 billions more, versus criminal Putin, not sucking him like MAGA USA.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3043004]Says the Repub cult follower whose lord and savior is once again proposing that Congress send tax-funded emergency welfare checks out to voters with his name on them so as to ease some of the pain that his typical Repub crap economic policy and stewardship results have caused America. And do it in a hurry before next year's midterm elections hand his Party its ass and thereby puts an end to at least some of that pain.

Uh. If every American was offered a job in San Diego that afforded them a beach-side home in San Diego, La Jolla or any number of those beach-side neighborhoods, [b]most of them would pack up Granny, Jethro, Elle May and the rocking chair and drive their pick-up through 1000 miles of potholes to get the hell out of Hootervile and Dead Man's Gulch to get to it.[/b][/QUOTE]Funny Stuff! Thanks for the belly ache, laughs and chuckles, on that great blast from the past 60's TV show, The Beverly Hillbillies, anecdotal reference. I got to admit, the show was a perennial favorite in our household growing up. You should have heard the laughter from my dad, while he'd be watching the show. [NOPARSE]Of course Granny Clampett, was his favorite character.

Yeah, god trip down memory line, albeit rendered through the lens of a 1000 miles of potholes...nevertheless, thank[/NOPARSE]s!

But speaking of knee-slapping, good ol' country blithering senile old grannies, that once TV shows, what the hell kinda year-end speech, to address the nation, what that last night from the MAGA Fuhrer?

I mean, all anyone heard, was BIDEN, BIDEN, BIDEN for 20-minutes! I guess in Trumpland parlance, it must sound an awful lot like, [B]the senile MAGA Fuhrer is suffering from BDS![/B]

So the BLS officials got to keep their job as long as they put out the BS numbers that help make Trump look like less of a total numbskull failure came out first to give him his BS soundbite and talking point. Similar to when Trump's Lying AG Bill Barr jumped out in front of the Russia Russia Russia Mueller Investigation Report and lie about what that actually discovered.

[B]NY Fed's Williams says some 'technical factors' distorted November's CPI reading[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/19/ny-fed-president-williams-says-some-technical-factors-distorted-novembers-cpi-reading-downward.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]"There were some special factors of practical factors that really are related to the fact that they werent able to collect date in October and not in the first half of November, Williams said.

And because of that, I think the data were distorted in some of the categories, and that pushed down the CPI reading, probably by a tenth or so, Williams said on CNBCs Squawk Box.[/QUOTE]Oh, BTW, even with the BS about CPI being 2.7%/2. 6%, Trump and his America-hating cult followers are out there claiming those rates of inflation are "the lowest in 4 years"!

Uh. Nope. See the link and the screenshot of the chart below.

Even their BS numbers are no lower than the CPI was just last year around this same time under Joe Biden. Which was demonstrative proof it had declined dramatically from the Trump's Pandemic Rate of Inflation peak while Trump's current BS numbers made up to make him look better is demonstrative proof the rate of inflation has not declined at all since he took office. Obviously, the real rate was higher year-over-year.

[B]Consumer Price Index - October 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.bls.gov/news.release/archives/cpi_11132024.pdf[/URL]

[QUOTE]Over the last 12 months, the all items index increased 2.6% before seasonal adjustment.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043] In its 2025 energy outlook, the U.S. EIA found the cost of electricity generated from natural gas was $48.78 to $64.55 per megawatt hour to produce compared with $88.16 for offshore wind, $29.58 for onshore wind and $31.86 for solar. Aug. 25,2025

2) 91% of New Renewable Projects Now Cheaper Than Fossil Fuels Alternatives, 22 July, 2025. The IRENA data shows, the cost advantage for new solar and wind is not marginal, but often by a whooping 40-50%

LOL Thanks for proving my point. If wind is "cheaper" then why is it more offshore? Better yet, given its costs, why are you even doing it?[/QUOTE]And your point on 2025 is what? Alternative energy was cheaper for one year. Does that mean they will be next year too? So you mean windmills, solar panels, oil, natural gas, natural gas turbines, and uranium are all going to stay fixed in price forever? You are doing the dumbshit Democratic shuffle, green good, fossil fuel bad. It is much more complicated than that. In fact, I bet you cannot even state my position. You probably think I am 100% totally drill, baby, drill and green energy bad. That is all your binary brain can comprehend.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]The U.S. electricity grids (under MAGA) not so much, although going backwards, is a direction![/QUOTE]More binary brain.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]Again, tell that to China, with a 62% renewables grid. China's grid maybe not be a totally fossil free grid,[/QUOTE]And even more. That China has to import coal and oil while the USA does not has no meaning to your binary brain.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]It's to bad you can't get a solar/battery and AC configuration to work for you, at the price point you want.[/QUOTE]That is the exact opposite of what happened.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]But there's no shame that, if sticking with fossil fuels for power generation works for you and battery weight is problematic.[/QUOTE]Right, my batteries weigh more than other peoples.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]But make no mistake about it, there are plenty of RVers (and YouTubers making it work, just fine for them), that are boondocking on solar/battery/AC systems, more than 80-90% (and some 100%) of the time off gird, with minimal to very little shore power usage.[/QUOTE]LOL. We watched different videos. What I saw were guys generating 1,000 watts of power and their one refigerator used 70% of that power at peak sun. So, tell me, Spidy, how are these 80 to 100% of people getting by being off grid and at night? Are they going without AC or refigerators and if so, then what the hell is the point of a RV?

Your 80 to 100% number is pure bullshit. It is more of the same. When your binary brain fails, you just make shit up.

It is probably worthless in saying what I did because you read what you want. I had this great deal on a Tiffin RV. It is based on a Mercedes chassis that gets 15 mpg on average. What you do not get is I was determined to have two AC units and have one run off grid. I read all about AC units, power stations, solar panels, and I figured I could do it for ten grand. Now that was just for one AC unit to be free of shore power. My system blew the fuck out of those guys in your video, and like those guys, person after person said you need a generator for AC.

Thing is the Tiffin had a OCCC, Occupant and Cargo Carrying Capacity (OCCC) of six hundred pounds. That meant the RV could carry either my AC unit or me but not both, and that is with nothing else in the RV. And I weigh 220 lbs thank you very much.

The Winnebago had a 1,000 lbs of OCCC. Now I can carry two people and my AC uit and nothing else.

I am in Texas. The AC unit was more important than anything else so I researched more and went with the gas powered Ford chassis. OCCC on the RV I got is 2500 lbs, and I am going to put in my off grid AC unit as carrying capacity is no longer a real concern.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]So if you're serious about "...I want all in." it look like you're going to have to fork out some coin![/QUOTE]The Ford was half the price of the Mercedes. The cost is not there. Instead of getting 15 MPG though, I get 8 MPG. And this is what your binary brain cannot comprehend. To have an off grid AC unit meant MORE fossil fuels not less.

In my case, it would have been much more cost effective to get a bigger generator than a solar AC system. Thing is generators have to be maintained, break down, and are very loud. I was willing to pay more for batteries and solar to just be done with it. Still, it is going to be several hundreds pounds of batteries and equipment to run one AC unit 24/7 off of solar and even then when there is little sun, I will have to plug in to fossil fuel geneated shore power.

The generator needed to run two AC units is 5500 watts, and it can run 24/7 regardless of weather and power every electrical item in the RV. In comparison, in your video, those goofballs were bragging about 1000 watts of power at peak sun, which is about 4 hours per day, and they were trying to run everythng off of it which is completely bird brained.

If you can get a 4,000 watt battery that weighs ten pounds versus the 100 or so pounds it weighs now, then solar RVs make total sense. That solar powered RVs make no sense right now is something you just cannot get.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043]Again, [NOPARSE]tell that to China, with a 62% renewables grid. China's grid maybe not be a totally fossil free grid...yet, but just like South Australia that are now at 78% renewables grid, both have efforts and planning in place, that move them in the right direction of the flexible and resilient energy grids of tomorrow.

The U.S. electricity grids (under MAGA) not so much, although going backwards, [/NOPARSE]is a direction!

Nice try, [NOPARSE] but that old U.S. EIA report from 2024, you are trying to pawn-off as recent data/info as the current cheapest sources energy, isn't going to cut-it. But it was a nice try!

Here are 2025 update reports on Solar and Wind, being the cheapest forms of energy:

1) In its 2025 energy outlook, the U.S. EIA found the cost of electricity generated from natural gas was $48.78 to $64.55 per megawatt hour to produce compared with $88.16 for [/NOPARSE]offshore wind, [B]$29.58 for onshore wind and $31.86 for solar.[/B] Aug. 25,2025 [URL]https://spectrumlocalnews.com/us/snplus/environment/2025/08/25/are-wind-and-solar-responsible-for-higher-electricity-prices[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3043043] And why TAXPAYERS will be the only ones paying the cost, the MAGA Fuhrer's failed energy policies, for money losing coal mines, just like our $40 bn right-wing welfare to farmers[/QUOTE]As I just showed in my RV example, the one size fits all electrical model is silly. The government forces utilities to charge on a per kilowatt basis. That makes no sense. If you are solar based, electricty generation is going to cost more at night. With wind, there is less demand at night. A dynamic pricing model would push the consumer to have their own power stations. You charge your power station during the day when solar is cheaper or at night when the decrease in demand would make wind cheaper. There is no incentive for personal power stations when you have fixed per killowatt pricing. There likely would be times and places where it is more cost effective for people to generate their own electricity via solar or wind than rely on their utility.

That you are married to your petrostate and electrostate model is more binary thinking, and one that is not cost effective to boot. The state does not need to control everything with electricity.