Manila

[QUOTE=MikeStud;2909917]Where do I need to go?[/QUOTE]Pattaya.

Unfortunately, PI does not have the same massage++ culture as Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia etc. Most massage businesses are 100% legit. An occasional few might add extras. However, body to body, nuru or routinely finishing with a happy ending just isn't common at all.

The best you can hope for are online or streetwalkers' offers of a massage. It will be a thinly veiled introduction into sex but the actual massage will be absolute crap and the "girls" won't be young nor beautiful. Some establishments do offer in hotel massages. There will be a two hour minimum and what else the girl does / does not offer will be a roll of the dice.

Sorry I couldn't offer better news.

G.

[QUOTE=Kforab;2909543]Any Suggestion? Is the pool at Conrad so beautiful with look on beach? As Conrad is near Mall of Asia. Any Suggestionen to find freelancers? Maybe Hard Rock Caffee? Thanks for every help![/QUOTE]My tip for freelancers is to ask the hotel doormen / security / staff to sort you out. They'll get a cut of the profit and they'll make sure the girl gets to your room. Quite often when the girl leaves, reception will call you first to make sure she hasn't nicked anything from you.

I've got some really pleasant surprises doing this and it's not like dragging any girl off the street. Most have even shown the girl's social media profiles before I've agreed to a price. Average has been 3000 pesos. I usually exchange WhatsApp details before they leave the room and they're lined up in advance for my next visit.

Hope this helps Phil.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2909879]True. If you can't score on Burgos street especially with all the new bars there is something seriously wrong with you.[/QUOTE]Am more interested in FL as the bars seem overpriced to me. Like I said in another post went in 2020 and I thought the selection around Burgos wasn't great.

Was I there at a bad time like some have said for Angeles in 2020?

NI.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2910122]Am more interested in FL as the bars seem overpriced to me. Like I said in another post went in 2020 and I thought the selection around Burgos wasn't great.

Was I there at a bad time like some have said for Angeles in 2020?[/QUOTE]You didn't mention when you were there. Pre-covid? There is no price list for FL like there is for the bars. Couple of thoughts on Burgos FL. There are SW out there every night, and a few are attractive, but most are older and some form of fugly. Prices run the gamut from a low of about p1000 for a quickie (usually lasts less than an hour) and runs up considerably higher, depending on what things you want. However average prices (say, about 2 k for ST) can fluctuate quickly, in just a day. Also individual girlie prices can fluctuate wildly, depending on which emergency this or that girl is experiencing TODAY. The number of continual / rolling emergencies for most girls can be surprising. Some girls are having an emergency everyday (indicative of an emergency of a different nature -- shabu).

Online options (Tinder, DIA, or such). P3000 has been bantied about as typical for ST.

[QUOTE=KbNagar;2909916]Look for these message patterns from Filipina before they ask you for money over whatsapp:

"There is no food".

"My kid and I just slept without food".

"No food at home".

"Don't have any work so no food".

"I am sick and need to go to a doctor".

"I have a pain and need money for medicines".

"My internet access will go away since I don't have load".

"I am using my neighbors internet".

"I need to pay rent".[/QUOTE]Good list. You forgot 'Sick kalabaw'. The question becomes: Is she really having this emergency? Or does she really want the money to buy snacks and Empi for her pinoy boyfie?

FYI: for the moment being I follow a classic non mongering modus operandi online. I don't mention anything related to sex, money or anything rude, LOL. I had a couple of girls mentioning financial difficulties. In that case it seems logic to offer a reward. I suppose that's why they are mentioning it anyway. But how to make that transition? I mean, you can't just say like 'oh got a hungry one at home, have you? Well you know what deep clean my chopper and I'll buy you a cup of rice'. If she really has a problem that would be inhumane. How do you guys go about this?

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2910186]If she really has a problem that would be inhumane. How do you guys go about this?[/QUOTE]Ask if she is still going to need help when you are in town. Then you can meet up to provide assistance and she can say thank you straight away.

It is totally pointless to send cash when you aren't even in country. It doesn't guarantee anything when you do arrive. It doesn't reserve your place in the queue. It doesn't stop her asking the same from 800 other guys. It doesn't prevent another calamity happening next week and every week after that.

I've said it a million times: when I'm standing in a local hotel, dick in one hand and cash in the other, I have never had a girl refuse to see me because I didn't send "help" while I was away. Not once. Never.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2910192]Ask if she is still going to need help when you are in town. [/QUOTE]I am there right now. But it's in the provinces.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2910203]I am there right now. But it's in the provinces.[/QUOTE]Same thing. Either you go to her or she comes to you.

Be aware that 'lame buffaloes' followed by 'ID love to suck your dick but I don't have bus fare' typically does not have a high success rate after you send the vet bill and transport money.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=TailPipe;2910186]FYI: for the moment being I follow a classic non mongering modus operandi online. I don't mention anything related to sex, money or anything rude, LOL. I had a couple of girls mentioning financial difficulties. In that case it seems logic to offer a reward. I suppose that's why they are mentioning it anyway. But how to make that transition? I mean, you can't just say like 'oh got a hungry one at home, have you? Well you know what deep clean my chopper and I'll buy you a cup of rice'. If she really has a problem that would be inhumane. How do you guys go about this?[/QUOTE]You say, "I am always willing to help my friends. Come over to my hotel and we can discuss more. But I never send money to anyone I have not met before. " And no, they are not starving. Somehow they managed to survive all these years without your help. They will continue to do so. Its not your responsibility.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2910192]Ask if she is still going to need help when you are in town. Then you can meet up to provide assistance and she can say thank you straight away.

It is totally pointless to send cash when you aren't even in country. It doesn't guarantee anything when you do arrive. It doesn't reserve your place in the queue. It doesn't stop her asking the same from 800 other guys. It doesn't prevent another calamity happening next week and every week after that.

I've said it a million times: when I'm standing in a local hotel, dick in one hand and cash in the other, I have never had a girl refuse to see me because I didn't send "help" while I was away. Not once. Never..[/QUOTE]Goferring is right. Whilst I don't doubt the majority of the girls without a FT job have money issues, the cup of rice a day story is a foreigner ploy for free money. You need to detach yourself from the stories and not get too into their personal lives. Never give cash until services provided. If her story is legit after you have sex you can give her a little extra.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2910129]You didn't mention when you were there. Pre-covid? There is no price list for FL like there is for the bars. Couple of thoughts on Burgos FL. There are SW out there every night, and a few are attractive, but most are older and some form of fugly. Prices run the gamut from a low of about p1000 for a quickie (usually lasts less than an hour) and runs up considerably higher, depending on what things you want. However average prices (say, about 2 k for ST) can fluctuate quickly, in just a day. Also individual girlie prices can fluctuate wildly, depending on which emergency this or that girl is experiencing TODAY. The number of continual / rolling emergencies for most girls can be surprising. Some girls are having an emergency everyday (indicative of an emergency of a different nature -- shabu).

Online options (Tinder, DIA, or such). P3000 has been bantied about as typical for ST.[/QUOTE]I remember going at Christmas time but checked and was Dec2020. What I saw there at PBurgos and Angeles did not impress me much. Stayed at St Giles too which I thought was ok but not great.

Parked myself at Cafe Cubana most nights and perused for a couple of hours.

NI.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2909932]Pattaya.

Unfortunately, PI does not have the same massage++ culture as Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia etc. Most massage businesses are 100% legit. An occasional few might add extras. However, body to body, nuru or routinely finishing with a happy ending just isn't common at all.

The best you can hope for are online or streetwalkers' offers of a massage. It will be a thinly veiled introduction into sex but the actual massage will be absolute crap and the "girls" won't be young nor beautiful. Some establishments do offer in hotel massages. There will be a two hour minimum and what else the girl does / does not offer will be a roll of the dice..[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree more G.

Met a local girl in a 'casual' bar that also worked at a massage joint in Sabang about a year ago and she was determined to offer a massage to show off her skills in my room before the real action.

In the the end I gave her 500 p to stop the massage and to get to work (so to speak).

If anyone's been to Boracay, the last thing you'd want is a massage as every second girl asks you if you want one, all day, and every day.

I'm thinking "All I want is a beer and a f*ck".

It's merely economics for them and not a skill.

I was once treated to a 'real' massage for my birthday while in Japan quite a few years ago and I couldn't walk for days afterwards. Ie. Babes walking on your back and the happy ending for some extra Yen.

Ever since, I've had no interest in massages. I don't travel to the PH merely for a rub and tug.

Phil.

Hi everybody, what about these outcall "spas" that send girls to your hotel? I saw plenty of that. How is the service? Does it make sense to go that way or typical scam with ugly girls that are far away from the photos proposed or money in advance?

Any potential issues with the hotels?

[QUOTE=Selsko;2910537]Hi everybody, what about these outcall "spas" that send girls to your hotel? I saw plenty of that. How is the service? Does it make sense to go that way or typical scam with ugly girls that are far away from the photos proposed or money in advance?
Any potential issues with the hotels?[/QUOTE]Robinson mall in Malate next to or across Mcdonalds. Go around 7 pm you will find some cute young girls offering massage but once in the room if they like your looks full service is open at minimum pricing scored a young cute spinner but she got too clingy waited outside my hotel everynight. Had to move hotel. Note: the attractive ones are scooped up by nightfall.