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[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1908523]I haven't found it a problem except restrictive soapy girls. My favorite was a Kinnaree girl who said "Thank you for sperm".[/QUOTE]Great!
I have never tried Kinaree. Btu now its on my to do list. .
Hitting GT in Bruggen next week! Thanks for the tips! I will let you know how it turns out.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1908635]Great!
I have never tried Kinaree. Btu now its on my to do list. .
Hitting GT in Bruggen next week! Thanks for the tips! I will let you know how it turns out.[/QUOTE]I've been at Kinnaree to day, 3 pm. Only a dozen girls, good part beautiful for sure. Some a bit pushy, others don't even consider you. Atmosphere is very relaxed. I took Pim for CIM. But like yesterda.
[QUOTE=UncleVolodya;1908635]Great!
I have never tried Kinaree. Btu now its on my to do list. .
Hitting GT in Bruggen next week! Thanks for the tips! I will let you know how it turns out.[/QUOTE]I've been at Kinnaree to day, 3 pm. Only a dozen girls, good part beautiful for sure. Some a bit pushy, others don't even consider you. Atmosphere is very relaxed. I took Pim for CIM. But like yesterday with a FL from BR, she did it almost to the end: when explosion came, she withdrew mouth. Would I repeat at Kinnaree: yes for price. Quality ratio (1 K for girls, 350 for room, drinks cheap) and the relaxed ambiance and the beautiful girls if compared to most other places. No for sex as such: at the bitter end, a s is often stated here, you know only once in room if the girl is good or not. Paradoxically, the best selection I found at Rasputin massage, about 100 girls with many real cuties. But the prices lie between 2500 and 3500: the price to pay for beauty (I did not stay).
Did Pim agree to CIM and pull out? If so that's not good.
12 seems a bit low for Kinnaree but it is holiday week. I haven't found the current lineup to be all that great but maybe because I'm used to it.
I'll point out the Sperm Girl for you, UncleV. She hates me now maybe because I didn't even tip her 10 baht.
[QUOTE=ChristianG;1908515]Speaking in general, I think you were unlucky. Of course not all girls allow CIM in Pattaya but I always found some girls that do it quite easily.[/QUOTE]From my recent experience in Pattaya I would say it is quite easy to have a run of that kind of bad luck in not finding P4 P girls who will finish a BJ with CIM.
I have spent 2-3 days and nights in Pattaya 4 times over the past 2 1/2 years or so and only found 1 bargirl who actually agreed to it and accomplished it out of about two dozen approaches and requests for it on my part. Outdoor beer bar girls, go-go girls, freelancers, more than a dozen if not two dozen requests in Pattaya and only 1 said yes and meant it.
I spent one evening being lectured by at least 6, yes 6, different P4 P girls working various clubs on Soi 6 on what a sick fuck I must be to even suggest that any Thai girl would ever do that for a man! LOL. Mind you, I was only asking these Pattaya girls if they would finish a BJ with CIM. I wasn't even asking them to swallow!
That was the last night I spent in Pattaya. I high tailed it back to my beloved Bangkok ASAP and have not given a moment's thought to returning. I consider that issue to be one among several that accounts for Pattaya's P4 P scene being cheaper than Bangkok's. There are many more unskilled low achievers who could never cut it in Bangkok working there, imo.
[QUOTE=Gannaton48;1908669]I've been at Kinnaree to day, 3 pm. Only a dozen girls, good part beautiful for sure. Some a bit pushy, others don't even consider you. Atmosphere is very relaxed. I took Pim for CIM. But like yesterday with a FL from BR, she did it almost to the end: when explosion came, she withdrew mouth. Would I repeat at Kinnaree: yes for price. Quality ratio (1 K for girls, 350 for room, drinks cheap) and the relaxed ambiance and the beautiful girls if compared to most other places. No for sex as such: at the bitter end, a s is often stated here, you know only once in room if the girl is good or not. Paradoxically, the best selection I found at Rasputin massage, about 100 girls with many real cuties. But the prices lie between 2500 and 3500: the price to pay for beauty (I did not stay).[/QUOTE]I was in Pattaya a few nights waiting for a connection flight, I went to the Kinnaree for the first time, actually I checked it again the next day, both times had about 10-15 girls, seems busy in the afternoon, but both times I could not find anything to my taste, a bit younger less than 24 and slender and babyless. There were a few passable looking ones but with stretch marks, so I did not take them. The place was quite relaxed, some girls approach you, some don't. I also went to Bliss Lounge for the first time, could not find one that could slightly excite me even for just a BJ. But girls were quite friendly no stress.
I checked many MPs as well, seems like the girls I would do are all in the really high categories, Rasputin, the Sabais, Honeys all have a few doable ones for me, but all in the 3 k-5 k range. I did not even want to try these at this price range, seeing these cuter ones get constantly called by tourist customers all day, I can imagine the service level. Pattaya for me is getting harder and harder to find someone younger, slender, babyless, passable look at reasonable price.
[QUOTE=Liverpool1208;1899645]Hi there everyone,
I just have a doubt. Can you book st or LT on the girls who normally stand outside the bars trying to get the customers to go into the clubs? [/QUOTE]Yes you can. Last year I did a short time with a bleach-blond door girl from Ginza. And on a trip before that I picked up a Secrets sign girl LT, and also did ST with a cutie sign girl from in front of Iron Gogo that I had stopped by to chat with.
The Iron girl wanted me to buy her a drink inside the gogo, and when we sat down inside, there was an even cuter dancer onstage eyeing me. I would have chosen the dancer if I had seen her first. The'oh!
[QUOTE=NitTheCream;1909027]Yes you can. Last year I did a short time with a bleach-blond door girl from Ginza. And on a trip before that I picked up a Secrets sign girl LT, and also did ST with a cutie sign girl from in front of Iron Gogo that I had stopped by to chat with.[/QUOTE]Don't Ginza and Iron use their regular gogo girls out front. Most WS gogo clubs are the same. LK Metro is different and they have regular hostess girls out front.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;1909463]Don't Ginza and Iron use their regular gogo girls out front. Most WS gogo clubs are the same. LK Metro is different and they have regular hostess girls out front.[/QUOTE]Yes, Iron Club GoGo dancers put the hostess mini dress over their bikini when they do a shift as a door girl. Always look closely at the door girls outfit to see if you can spot another skimpy uniform or bikini underneath which is a clue that she is really a GoGo dancer.
Skyfall has their GoGo dancers do shifts outside as door girls in their GoGo dancer uniform.
Baccara seems to have more dedicated door girls since their uniforms are very different then their GoGo dancers or hostesses.
Damn, I've been reading these threads a lot more in recent months (stopped logging on regularly about 6 years ago) and didn't realize how high the prices are in Pattaya. I have been there 3 times, with the first being the beginning of last year. Before taking my first and subsequent trips, I didn't do much research, since I went with a buddy the first time who had been there a few times (too lazy to RTFF, LOL). I have mostly stuck to the clubs (Insomnia / iBar, 808, Flex), Soi 6, a couple of message places on Soi Bukhao and tried the soapies twice. Other than the soapies, I've never spent anything close to or more than 2 K THB (other than tips and food).
Not to say that I've been doing good, just didn't realize there were such high prices as the ones posted on this site in Pattaya. I didn't really care for the gogo scene, since I don't drink and don't do lady drinks. To me once I see a girl I like and want, other than price negotiations, it's name, rank and serial number, then it's action time. No need to wine and dine, but that's me. After reading how bad the gogo's are, I think I will continue to pass on those places, although the chicks appear to be very hot. From what I could see, there are plenty of decent hotties at the other cheaper venues. As far as ST vs LT, I'm more of a ST guy, but most of the FL's I picked up at the clubs stayed and were down for multiple hits without any prompting. Hell, I had a harder time getting them to split. These were all the ones that agreed to $1500 THB. When the bar fine cost as much as I pay for FL and Soi 6 girls, then that's not the place for me.
[QUOTE=Conan23;1909600]Yes, Iron Club GoGo dancers put the hostess mini dress over their bikini when they do a shift as a door girl. Always look closely at the door girls outfit to see if you can spot another skimpy uniform or bikini underneath which is a clue that she is really a GoGo [/QUOTE]Why does any of that matter? If you like the chick just tell her to come with you. They are all hookers. Unless you just want to fuck someone for the title you think they have.
Any changes in ground situation please report brothers as I am planning a trip in September.
Advise needed in all aspects.
TIA.
[QUOTE=Ssdel;1910124]BKK raid effects
Any changes in ground situation please report brothers as I am planning a trip in September.
Advise needed in all aspects.
TIA.[/QUOTE]You may want to post in the BKK thread then. This is Thailand A LOT can change between now and September.
[QUOTE=Ssdel;1910124]Any changes in ground situation please report brothers as I am planning a trip in September.
Advise needed in all aspects.
TIA.[/QUOTE]Guys nothing will change too much! Maybe we will see a decline in P4 P offered on the premises and that should be the case. I for one am excited about this change. Soi Cowboy and Nana will always be here since no sex is on the premises, just girls working in the bars. They will have to cut out the nude or topless dancing though. The massage girls will flock to the go go bars and the freelance scene will increase 10 fold. Chat apps will be flooded with freelancers looking for customers and all will be normal. Normal bars will see a huge influx in business so the balance will be set and all will be happy. Any massage places will start to operate underground like in most countries. Who cares, compensate and enjoy Thailand, the girls are not going anywhere.
[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1910463]Guys nothing will change too much! Maybe we will see a decline in P4 P offered on the premises and that should be the case. I for one am excited about this change. Soi Cowboy and Nana will always be here since no sex is on the premises, just girls working in the bars. They will have to cut out the nude or topless dancing though. The massage girls will flock to the go go bars and the freelance scene will increase 10 fold. Chat apps will be flooded with freelancers looking for customers and all will be normal. Normal bars will see a huge influx in business so the balance will be set and all will be happy. Any massage places will start to operate underground like in most countries. Who cares, compensate and enjoy Thailand, the girls are not going anywhere.[/QUOTE]Agree. We are centuries away from Thailand getting its shit together well enough economically with safety nets, entitlements and so on to ensure hot, young lazy or needy girls won't choose P4 P over most other options.
And whenever you cut out the middle man, pimps, the useless interloper barfine collectors, remove the girls from a venue culture that more often than not just becomes a training ground for how to get more money for providing less and the interaction between the girl and her customer is blissfully direct, the better off both the girls and the customers will be IMO.