Manila

[QUOTE=GDreams;2925719]I pay 4-5000 for long time. Thats 18-25 with good bodies.[/QUOTE]Believe me man, I would gladly settle for that sort of price. Last time I was here precovid, ST 1500 or 2000 was common and LT 3000 ish was common. But this time I have 3, maybe 4 days in country, and I would hate to waste a day or 2 striking out with FL girls who end up flaking.

A profile short message of " I will pay 12 k a day for your time and service" will sure flood the inbox. Just saying 😁.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2925530]Wave 12 to 16 k at any freelancer or online girl and you won't strike out. You will be beating them out of the way and they will be covered, bare, wrapped in a pink bow, whatever you want.

Of course, you could also have any Burgos girl, while seeing what you are getting and discussing your needs face to face.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]

Hello folks,

Planning to come to Manila for mongering for 2-3 days. How can I best use my time?

Any recommendations for getting beauties coming to my room, kinda like smooci but a much bigger choice?

I am looking for BBBJ, CIM, swallow.

I have RTTF'ed, and see some recommendations around Manila Courtesans and the asian escorts which allow filtering by service, assuming they fulfill the listed services!

On a side note, is HCMC better for it or is Manila it is?

Thanks a lot!

[QUOTE=Donnahito;2925267]Gents, it's been a long time since I've been to the Philippines, and I have a chance to be there for a couple of days in the near future. Trying to hedge my bets in case I strike out with online freelancers in the short time I have, so I'm looking into Manila Courtesans and Manila Asian Escorts as well. I'm primarily interested in overnight action, all bareback.

Looking through past forum posts, MC had reports where members said the agency confirmed no bareback, girls themselves brought condoms, or girls very reluctantly went bare with bad performance. Anyone with additional data points about whether MC girls go bare, or is it luck of the draw? MAE has a filter for girls who go bare, but just curious what's the accuracy of this, and do they try to upcharge you once in the room?

I know 12 k to 16 k is a lot to pay for LT, but that's about the standard ST price for Asians in the US before bare upcharge, and it's hard to pass up this opportunity if I can get the chance.[/QUOTE]Tried Jade from MC, adamantly condom only, no pics, no upgrade possibility. Kept repeating it was policy. Lame lay, won't be doing that again.

[QUOTE=Donnahito;2925795]Believe me man, I would gladly settle for that sort of price. Last time I was here precovid, ST 1500 or 2000 was common and LT 3000 ish was common. But this time I have 3, maybe 4 days in country, and I would hate to waste a day or 2 striking out with FL girls who end up flaking.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't a point-and-shoot option be better? Gogo bars where you can literally buy a hottie a drink and ask her specifically about what you want, ahead of time. The only cost is the drink. Even if she is not willing to go with you because of the specifics you ask, she will find you another girl in the bar who will. Cost is about p10 k, and half that is the tip you give *after* she finishes her morning pop.

You won't find a lot of hottie SW on Burgos, but approach most any of them and explain what you are looking for, tell her your spending limit (say, 5000), and she will find it for you for a small fee (p500-1000). For short-time visitors, playing the field would be a secondary option? The joy of freelancers is that you don't pay until they actually perform.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2925488]A joy to root, and a joy to watch shower (before and after). Shy girl turns hotter than a pepper sprout with a pulsating shower head -- every time.[/QUOTE]Westie, you've done it again The shower scenario is always a special part of the action. Phil.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2925796]A profile short message of " I will pay 12 k a day for your time and service" will sure flood the inbox. Just saying 😁.[/QUOTE]Haha sounds like a great idea, not sure if that's going to result in an instant ban from PL though.

[QUOTE=GrandeLoad;2925845]Tried Jade from MC, adamantly condom only, no pics, no upgrade possibility. Kept repeating it was policy. Lame lay, won't be doing that again.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the data point. Sounds like a precious post about MC, looks like MAE might be the better of the 2 for what I'm looking for.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2925859]Wouldn't a point-and-shoot option be better? Gogo bars where you can literally buy a hottie a drink and ask her specifically about what you want, ahead of time. The only cost is the drink. Even if she is not willing to go with you because of the specifics you ask, she will find you another girl in the bar who will. Cost is about p10 k, and half that is the tip you give *after* she finishes her morning pop.

You won't find a lot of hottie SW on Burgos, but approach most any of them and explain what you are looking for, tell her your spending limit (say, 5000), and she will find it for you for a small fee (p500-1000). For short-time visitors, playing the field would be a secondary option? The joy of freelancers is that you don't pay until they actually perform.[/QUOTE]I've definitely considered gogo bars, and it might come down to that. But it's just my personal preference that I don't like dark and loud venues where I can hardly see the girl and get pressured to buy buy buy. Much rather meet a girl for the first time in a coffee shop, restaurant, or some place less loud.

Regarding SW, are you saying use them like mamasan? Tell her my requirements, ask her to recommend a friend, and tip her P500-100? Does this typically play out with her calling over someone nearby, or just exchanging contact info and promising someone will be at my hotel in a couple hours?

[QUOTE=Donnahito;2925965]I've definitely considered gogo bars, and it might come down to that. But it's just my personal preference that I don't like dark and loud venues where I can hardly see the girl and get pressured to buy buy buy. Much rather meet a girl for the first time in a coffee shop, restaurant, or some place less loud.[/QUOTE]Anytime you go this route, meeting for coffee first is always a good idea, as you can get a close look at the girl before pulling the trigger. The downside to this is you decide that her pics / vid call before aren't indicative of her current weight, and you decline. A few hours later you meet another and decline again. Wasted time / energy.

Someone explain the escort agency MO to me (have never partaken in Phils). Do you contact the girl directly and work an agreement for payment (or partial payment / agreed tip) after the deed? Are you contacting MC directly and paying in advance (credit card) before they send the girl to you?

[QUOTE=Donnahito;2925965]Regarding SW, are you saying use them like mamasan? Tell her my requirements, ask her to recommend a friend, and tip her P500-100? Does this typically play out with her calling over someone nearby, or just exchanging contact info and promising someone will be at my hotel in a couple hours?[/QUOTE]Best bet would be to walk the street yourself and look at every single girl in the street. Starting on Burgos at the 7-11 area and turning left on Durban St (Filling Station resto), walk down Durban St to the Durban Hotel, then turning around and walking back up Durban St to Burgos St and turning left at Oxford Hotel, to Kalayaan (Lawson convenience store), walk cross Burgos St to the gogo bar side (see Nautica and FYRE bars), and proceed along Burgos on the gogo side, back to the 7-11 area. You can walk it slowly in 7-8 minutes and see every girl (and ladyboy). See something you like? No mama or middle-man needed. Whatever she asks for, just say yes, as they would probably ask in the p4-6 k range for LT with 2 pops (evening / morning), and you are paying in the morning when she departs (fairly guaranteeing good service).

If you don't see anything you like, ask several girls to find you a hottie who is NOT on the street. They might know some, they might not. Possibly they have pics of other girls available in their phones (or the other gal's FB page). The SW's friend, while a hottie, might not be a pro, and might want a few thousand more than the SW would normally get. Which is completely less than the 12-16 k you are willing to pay. Better even, the new hottie friend, if she works out for you in the bed, might also have friends willing to meet you.

Remember the street is not a single biz, there is no management or price list on a wall anywhere. Every girl is a FL, and if things don't work out in the room, your re-course is to give less money than agreed if she only stays for 1 pop. You have a similar recourse when you get a gogo bar girl, as her agreed tip amount is paid after the deed (s).

[QUOTE=Donnahito;2925965]I've definitely considered gogo bars, and it might come down to that. But it's just my personal preference that I don't like dark and loud venues where I can hardly see the girl and get pressured to buy buy buy. Much rather meet a girl for the first time in a coffee shop, restaurant, or some place less loud.

Regarding SW, are you saying use them like mamasan? Tell her my requirements, ask her to recommend a friend, and tip her P500-100? Does this typically play out with her calling over someone nearby, or just exchanging contact info and promising someone will be at my hotel in a couple hours?[/QUOTE]I have had the most success recently on TanTan. Pina Love seems awash with freelancers. I offer 4 k to stay the night sometimes 5 k to a stunner. Just collect some contacts, they will eagerly visit if free.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2925882]Westie, you've done it again The shower scenario is always a special part of the action. Phil.[/QUOTE]Ya, and then there's the 'after' part.

Its been around 5 days since there was a post. Whats happening? Is it that folks are not traveling? Or is it that everyone is disappointed after their visit. Whatsup.

[QUOTE=KbNagar;2927492]Its been around 5 days since there was a post. Whats happening? Is it that folks are not traveling? Or is it that everyone is disappointed after their visit. Whatsup.[/QUOTE]Things have fallen off since covid. Several of your thoughts there play into it. I think I posted in the Gen Info section a few months back a comparison of Phils and Thai immigration stats. In 2019 (last full year of stats before covid) Thailand had about 27 million visitors, and I think in 2023 they had bounced back to about 25 million (not bad). However for Phils, 2019 was about 9 million visitors, and last year was 5. 5 million. In fact, when I looked at monthly visitors for the first half of this year in Phils, an easy extrapolation might say it will be the same as last year, so about half of pre-covid.

Not sure that I can say why this has happened, nor that its from the negative changes in the AC gogo bar system and price increases across the board. I spent a couple of weeks in NCR recently, and Burgos was relatively dead on every night other than Friday / Saturday nights. There were more dudes at Bourbon with their GF watching the bands than there were in any bar. It was several weeks of easy pickin's for FL.

Side story. Went into Coco Rock one night for a nightcap. Couple of patrons were shooting pool. I plopped down in a seat along the wall, and a mama grabbed a chubby thang (a rock amongst the gems) and sat her down next to me. What, am I chopped liver? Quite a few attractive gals, and I got the [B]porker[/B]. Anyway she was nice, and witty, so I bought her a drink. I asked what the barfine amount was, as I remembered a previous visit to CR some months back when the mama told me that CR had the lowest barfine amount on Burgos. Right away the porker started looking around the bar left and right, like she'd discovered me to be an axe murderer. "I ask the waitress". What? Just tell me the barfine amount please?

The waitress came over and seemed confused by the question. "I get the mama". Wait. Wait. I saw you here a few months ago. You don't know the barfine? She walked off and returned with a mama. Ma'am how much is the barfine amount? She sat on my right, leaned in close, and quietly said "Its three-nine". Interesting, as that is a typical amount in other bars, no longer the lowest BF in town. Doesn't the chub know the amount? "Yes of course she does. I don't allow them to tell it". Great! Exactly the crazy crap I encountered in XS bar in AC. Its possible that this allows a sober mama to sus out how much 'newb / drunk' a guy is and adjust the barfine amount up / down as much as she sees that she can get away with. If she thinks you're a newb, she might say p5-6-7000.

"I will tell the girl to go change clothes for you". No! I was just curious as to the BF amount. "You don't want her?" What I wanted to say, was: "Got boinked twice today, by 2 different FL, at reduced rates because there aren't enough fellas around". But, my 'Woke' training kicked in, and I said: "She's beautiful, but I've had too much booze tonight. Another night. Raincheck? Bill please!" And with that, I was out.

Would like to know if any other fellas have been into CR in the last month (or any other Burgos bar) and had a case of only the mama knows the BF amount?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2927587]Side story. Went into Coco Rock one night for a nightcap. Couple of patrons were shooting pool. I plopped down in a seat along the wall, and a mama grabbed a chubby thang (a rock amongst the gems) and sat her down next to me. What, am I chopped liver? Quite a few attractive gals, and I got the [B]porker[/B]. Anyway she was nice, and witty, so I bought her a drink. I asked what the barfine amount was, as I remembered a previous visit to CR some months back when the mama told me that CR had the lowest barfine amount on Burgos. Right away the porker started looking around the bar left and right, like she'd discovered me to be an axe murderer. "I ask the waitress". What? Just tell me the barfine amount please?
[/QUOTE]Thanks Westie and a good reflection.

It's just another example of why I'm over the whole bar negotiation side of things these days. It's a shame because once upon a time, you knew the whole process from go to whoa. Thankfully over the past few years I've just relied on the contacts I've made along the way and negotiate with the girls privately. Sure, the bar scene is great for a fun night out, but when they're trying to take 'the experienced' for a ride, they're not looking after repeat customers.

As you're probably aware of my previous posts, I just bypass the bar scene now and line up my previous girls via WhatsApp in advance. Sometimes it's great fun to take my previous contacts into a bar (not one they've worked in) just for a drink. And when I have a pretty one hanging off my arm when entering it gets interesting and amusing for us both.

Followed by a night of fun and not the negotiation and bar fine bullshit. Phil.