American Politics

Well duh, last I checked, oil is still a form of energy and no one said it was irrelevant. But should it be used to generate electricity?

And BTW, oil isn't currently the lowest cost of energy, when looking to build new megawatt projects for the generation of electricity. But should it be considered [I]...sure why not[/I]?

I wonder why when analyzing a country's (or state's) electricity grid, we see it asked or given as an [B]"energy mix"[/B] or different sources of energy that make up their electricity grid. Meaning [NOPARSE]solutions for each country's (or state's) grid, will usually depend on a myriad of things (ie. costs/wealth, politics, resources, geography, land rights, right-of-way, culture, expertise...etc) as to why throughout their grid's history, it is what it is today.

That said, without a doubt, today's solar, wind and batteries are the some of the lowest forms of energy generation and capture. Today, renewables make up the largest portion of the grid (well over 50% and growing), for many countries, rather than that of fossil [/NOPARSE]fuels.

I find crazy senile Trump and his ICE killing anybody, behave in Minneapolis just like Iranian mollahs. USA became a really dangerous country, led by crazy Trump. I m happy not to be American. Fortunately, Europe resist to such crazy all the time bullshiting.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048732]LOL. I ask you two questions and you go off on this mental masturbation rant versus just answering them. Fine, I will answer them.[/QUOTE]LOL! Answers or more bullshit? BTW, I don't doubt for a second, that feeble and frustrated minds, like yours, will view LCOE, as ONE BIG masturbation rant, but that's out of my control and not my problem.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3048733]And this is where your LCOE bullshit falls flat on its face...[/QUOTE]Really? 'cause nothing thus far that you've said, quite says ignorance and illiteracy on the subject of LCOE, than you calling it [B]my "LCOE bullshit",[/B] when so many industries, like investment banks, financial advisors, project developers & investors, utility policymakers & planners, government agencies and energy analysts & consultants use LCOE everyday for critical planning and financial decision making.

[U]For Educational Purposes only![/U]

BTW, [NOPARSE]Elvis 2008, view my so called rants, as masturbation all you want to, if that's your thing...LOL! Far be it from me, to judge, what Elvis 2008 loves to view as masturbation ! That Said...

Know this, [/NOPARSE][B]before you continue to embarrass yourself...AGAIN,[/B] with regards to the subject matter of LCOE and understanding what a LCOE is and / or does, perhaps you should take a look at the following 2025 LinkedIn post, from Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF), on the Global Levelized Cost of Electricity (LCOE).

Scroll down to [U]see a BNEF LCOE benchmarks chart,[/U][NOPARSE] of the $ per megawatt hour from 2020 to 2025 on Nat.Gas, Coal, On/Offshore Wind, Fixed/Tracking Solar and Battery [/NOPARSE]Storage.

[B]BNEF - Future of Energy: Global Levelized Cost of Electricity (LCOE), benmarks 2020-2025,[/B] 06 February 2025, [URL]https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bloombergnef_renewables-wef26-bloomberghouse-activity-7420452042361458688-djFn[/URL] -OR- [URL]https://uk.linkedin.com/showcase/bloombergnef/?trk=public_post-text[/URL]

So hopefully you don't embarrass yourself to much, but if you prefer masturbating viewpoints, to my so called LCOE rants, then knock yourself out! Here is another report on LCOE for the UK's 28 DFIF countries.

[B]BNEF has examined levelized costs of electricity (LCOE) for major generation technologies across DFIDs 28 priority countries,[/B] 15 November 2015, [URL]https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/57a0897b40f0b652dd00023e/61646_Levelised-Cost-of-Electricity.pdf[/URL].

Please remember, that while I'm providing LCOE information, [U]it is purely for educational purposes ONLY![/U] I can't control how people choose to use [B](or view it as masturbation, of)[/B] the information!

Life is too damn long if you ask me. Anybody who's dead now are the lucky ones cause they don't have to experience the travesty that is day to day life *sigh*.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3048531]He stood on the world stage and with a tone of grave authority revealed he doesn't know the difference between Greenland, his decades long obsession, and Iceland. He referred to Greenland as Iceland at least 3 times.

Which certainly must lend credence in some dumb Repub hillbillies' minds that he knows what the fuck he is blathering about when he talks about Biden not knowing he was alive and that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen from him. Lolol.

No other country can ever have trust or respect for The United States of America again. Not on a trade deal, not on a peace deal, not on anything. Not even the ones Trump / MAGA would deem "shithole" countries. Even they will now be more trusted and respected than the USA will be post-Trump.

The entire world now knows that the USA is, at most and best, 2-4 years away from 49% of the American electorate installing either a president, a majority in Congress or both with an [B]R[/B] next to their names who will know nothing and do nothing except enact the absolute worst policies for itself and anyone else who is stupid enough to try to ally with it..[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.nationalreview.com/2026/01/equal-representation-should-mean-equal-representation-for-american-citizens/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spidy;3048805]Again...let me stop you right there, dude, as you again demonstrate you have no freakin' idea what LCOE is![/QUOTE]Man, you really do have outmeal for brains. You think I don't know about cost when it comes to opening a business? You make it sound like you have discovered the fountain of youth when you are talking about something I would blast a college freshman business major for not knowing. That you think that estimated cost is all that matters in a business tell me that you have never opened a business before.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3048805]That's it, no more lessons on LCOE for you ...Do your homework and stop trying to shoot from the hip, like someone drunk on his on MAGA bullshit and nonsense![/QUOTE]This kills me too. That you think who you vote for is a sign of intelligence shows me how much you are lacking it. Hey, dummy, you voted for the guy with actual dementia and stage 4 prostate cancer once, and the only reason you did not vote for him a second time is that he was not on the ballot. Even after the disasterous debate that Biden lost, you would have voted for him. And you wear your voting as a sign of intelligence?

And you think you are educating anyone when you say the same thing again and again? LOL. You have had three people give you example after example of when LCOE estimates are off and you are so fucking cocky that you think they are nowhere near as bright as you.

You don't think that stupid California train to nowhere did not have a cost report or business plan? What the hell happened? According to you, all that matters is you calculate cost and the money rolls in. All you have demonstrated is you do not know jack about business.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3049019]LOL! Answers or more bullshit? BTW, I don't doubt for a second, that feeble and frustrated minds, like yours, will view LCOE, as ONE BIG masturbation rant, but that's out of my control and not my problem.[/QUOTE]My questions involved your accusation of how damaging Trump was with his drill, baby, drill policy. I pointed out that drilling happened more under Biden than Trump and that oil comanies made more under Biden than Trump, and you go hide under you LCOE bullshit line like a child hides under a mother's skirt.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3049019]Really? 'cause nothing thus far that you've said, quite says ignorance and illiteracy on the subject of LCOE, than you calling it [B]my "LCOE bullshit",[/B] when so many industries, like investment banks, financial advisors, project developers & investors, utility policymakers & planners, government agencies and energy analysts & consultants use LCOE everyday for critical planning and financial decision making.[/QUOTE]Yeah, they use an estimate as it should be used. You make LCOE into a hardened fact that should dominate all policy decisions moving forward. Of course, like Tooms, you are dictating policy while living on a foreign beach. Your entire case that estimated costs LCOE are all that should matter with future energy production has fallen on its face once again.

In the real world, alternative energy has failed again when needed most, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/post-winter-storm-deep-freeze-pushes-power-grids-brink-feds-move-avert-blackouts[/URL].

Golf clap for fossil fuels saving the grid from collapse. It wasn't solar or wind. It was oil and natural gas.

Meantime in New England and Boston oil. Yes OIL. Is a stunning 39% of electricity production.

Never, ever seen this high.

Next day power costs (on the left) are super high as well.

300 miles from one of the largest nat gas fields in the world and burning. Oil.

Weird.

It is funny how we fossil fuel loving red Republicans keep saving the asses of you blue state fools. As has been pointed out to you a million times, there are places solar and wind make sense and places that it does not, and New England is one place it does not. You have that huge natural gas field in Pennsylvania, and the obvious source of cheap electricity and New England and the libs who run it tried to go with solar and wind. LOL. That fell on its face with this winter storm and they had to go back to oil and wood. Unfuckingreal.

Why is everybody else getting 'iced' but I'm still alive free to walk around? I want a free trip to the morgue too. I'm old, I'm tired and my life is shit. And I don't have the guts to unlife myself yet, so how come other fuckers out there are the lucky ones? Its like those rich idiot Swiss young people setting themselves on fire in some weird night club instead of going to ski. Nothing makes sense anymore in this world of AI and no one believing anything and not trusting anyone.

Before you know it, somebody'll say it snowed like 2 feet yesterday. Yeah right. I call BS on that.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3049149]And you think you are educating anyone when you say the same thing again and again? LOL. You have had three people give you example after example of when LCOE estimates are off and you are so fucking cocky that you think they are nowhere near as bright as you.[/QUOTE]Despite the dumbass comments on wind turbines by the senile foul-mouth MAGA Fuhrer, at the WC Forum (and similar anti-wind turbine sentiments from ISG-MAGA acolytes), the EU (Britain, Germany, Denmark Norway, Netherlands and other European countries) [NOPARSE]announced they will be signing an agreement to jointly install 100GW of offshore wind turbines, and 20GW by the year 2030, in large scale joint projects.

This agreement will solidify and renews past commitments, to wean themselves off their reliance on Russian gas by 2028 and U.S. gas beyond [/NOPARSE]that. [B]The United Kingdom and Eight European Countries Partner to Build 100GW of Offshore Wind,[/B] January 26,2026. [URL]https://energynews.pro/en/the-united-kingdom-and-eight-european-countries-partner-to-build-100-gw-of-offshore-wind/[/URL]

[QUOTE]According to a separate report, indicates British consumers have enjoyed [b]savings of $1.9 billion (1.6 billion) from the nine existing undersea cables linking the UK to Europe since 2023.[/b][/QUOTE]That's a [I][b]pretty big commitment and billion dollar savings for intermittent power,[/b][/I] for [NOPARSE]100GW offshore wind turbines built and installed jointly, 20GW by 2030 and 300GW by 2050 [/NOPARSE][I]...hmmmm,[/I] I wonder if they checked if, [U]a LCOE "baseload"[/U] was even considered?

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;3049291]Why is everybody else getting 'iced' but I'm still alive free to walk around? I want a free trip to the morgue too. I'm old, I'm tired and my life is shit. And I don't have the guts to unlife myself yet, so how come other fuckers out there are the lucky ones? Its like those rich idiot Swiss young people setting themselves on fire in some weird night club instead of going to ski. Nothing makes sense anymore in this world of AI and no one believing anything and not trusting anyone.

Before you know it, somebody'll say it snowed like 2 feet yesterday. Yeah right. I call BS on that.[/QUOTE]Wear a shirt with a trans flag on it, with a medical blue face mask, platform shoes with a skirt, hold a big cardboard with some lgbt slogan again ice and maga with some socilalist measure as suggestion written on it like 'Not MAGA, But LFSFT: Let Freespeech FUCK TRUMP! Save my medicare and my gendre transition plan!' and when they come to talk to you you speak to them in a foreign langage then you pull out you cellphone from your pocket very fast and begin to film them while continuing to talk loud in a foreign langage. You should meet your god soon after that.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3049224]In the real world, alternative energy has failed again when needed most, [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/post-winter-storm-deep-freeze-pushes-power-grids-brink-feds-move-avert-blackouts[/URL].

Golf clap for fossil fuels saving the grid from collapse. It wasn't solar or wind. It was oil and natural gas.

Meantime in New England and Boston oil. Yes OIL. Is a stunning 39% of electricity production. ...

You have that huge natural gas field in Pennsylvania, and the obvious source of cheap electricity and New England and the libs who run it tried to go with solar and wind. LOL. That fell on its face with this winter storm and they had to go back to oil and wood. Unfuckingreal.[/QUOTE]It's always so freakin' hilarious, how you and the fossil fuel fool that wrote the article, always somehow end up blaming renewables, wind and solar, for every electrical failure, one weather disaster after another. LOL! I'm still laughing at the Texas fools, that were blaming wind turbines, for they own ineptitude and lack of preparedness, in the 2021 winter storm. [URL]https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/19/politics/texas-energy-outage-wind-turbine-blame-green-energy-fact-check[/URL]

And what's even funnier, is that, neither you nor he, can do basic 5th grade math. Meaning, when fossil fuels supply the bulk or 60% of [I]U.S. National grid's power,[/I] how the freakin' hell can you squarely blame renewables (solar and wind), that only supply 15% the power to the electrical grid, with the short comings and failures of the recent winter storm?

Do the math and any half-witted 5th grade student, will tell you, if there is blame, that fossils fuels deserves most of the bulk, or majority of the blame. But as I suspect, most gullible MAGAs may have failed 5th grade math.

But dude, don't get it twisted! Unlike you, I won't blame fossil fuels, as the consensus is reporting that, the blame and failures, lay squarely on, downed, frozen and outted power lines and not having a more resilient, robust and balanced electrical grid system.

[B]Winter storm tests US electric grid as outages spread[/B], January 26,2025. [URL]https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/25/winter-storm-electric-grid-overdrive-00745690?[/URL] [B]Winter Storms Are Straining the U.S. Electric Grid[/B] January 26,2025. [URL]https://nzero.com/blog/winter-storms-are-straining-the-u-s-electric-grid/[/URL]

But by all means, blame 15% solar and wind, if it makes you and your MAGA Fuhrer, feel better about the inept administration's handling of the winters storms and his cancellation of wind farms, that would provide additional clean power.

So MAGA, rather than playing the blame game, perhaps you should for once, try "administrating" and "governing", thereby, fixing the real problems with the [I]U.S.electrical grid?[/I]

*sigh*, people who want to live, die. And people like me that want to die, still somehow continue to live. Jeezum crow.

Christ on a stick.

Well, I'm super old anyway, just a matter of time.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eitefl3Tq7s[/URL]

We're closer than ever to nuclear annihilation. But come on! From the cuban Missile Crisis to everything in between, how many times have we been close? I'll believe it when I feel the heat and I'm burnt to a crisp. Ha! I wish I was dead. Well, more like I was never born. *sigh* My life sucks. Won't any supernatural being give me tons of money for my soul?

[QUOTE=BennieBen;3049456]Wear a shirt with a trans flag on it, with a medical blue face mask, platform shoes with a skirt, hold a big cardboard with some lgbt slogan again ice and maga with some socilalist measure as suggestion written on it like 'Not MAGA, But LFSFT: Let Freespeech FUCK TRUMP! Save my medicare and my gendre transition plan!' and when they come to talk to you you speak to them in a foreign langage then you pull out you cellphone from your pocket very fast and begin to film them while continuing to talk loud in a foreign langage. You should meet your god soon after that.[/QUOTE]As senile as Trump, and bullshiting here many times, like crazy orange all over the world, but not able to use a free weapon and put in his mouth. I'm fully sure mother and her 3 children would like she still lives to take care of them. Shame on Trump and ICE, behaving like in Iran.

[QUOTE=Spidy;3049339]Despite the dumbass comments on wind turbines by the senile foul-mouth MAGA Fuhrer, at the WC Forum (and similar anti-wind turbine sentiments from ISG-MAGA acolytes), the EU (Britain, Germany, Denmark Norway, Netherlands and other European countries) announced they will be signing an agreement to jointly install 100GW of offshore wind turbines, and 20GW by the year 2030, in large scale joint projects.[/QUOTE]How those solar panels work when covered up by 6 feet of snow? How those windmills churning when their blades are frozen solid? Show me where in the LOC formula where climate is covered. Or are you just once again spouting off a number without knowing what is behind the calculation? Is this climate change all over again?

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/german-chancellor-merz-admits-shutting-down-nuclear-energy-production-was-severe-strategic[/URL]

And while you are praising Europe for going green, they are running the other way going back to natural gas and saying shutting down nuclear was a mistake.

Yeah, the LCOE is going to look real good for solar and wind after natural gas prices went through the roof. [URL]https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gas[/URL]

As for why we still need coal there is this: Coal plants carried weeks — sometimes months — of fuel on site. That fuel was already purchased, already delivered, and already insulated from real-time weather events. Coal did not compete with residential heating demand. It did not depend on pipeline pressure, compressor stations, or wellhead performance. When the temperature dropped, coal plants did not enter a bidding war with homeowners for survival. They simply ran.

That mattered because coal often sat at or near the margin during winter peaks. And when coal is the marginal fuel, prices behave differently. They move modestly. They reflect cost, not fear. They do not explode because of perceived scarcity three states away.

Contrast that with today's system. Natural gas now sets the price in much of the country. Gas does not need to fail to become expensive; it only needs to be stressed. Cold weather alone is enough. Add pipeline congestion, freeze-offs, or even the risk of nonperformance, and markets immediately inject a scarcity premium. Wholesale electric prices spike — even if every generator shows up and no emergency is declared.

It is worth asking a simple, uncomfortable question: If coal still dominated the electric grid the way it once did, would this cold snap even matter?

From a consumer perspective, the answer is largely no.

So yeah, solar and wind may be cheaper but they fail just when you need them most whereas coal is reliable and does not stick the consumer with massive price shocks when winter storms roll in. The batteries used with solar and wind are depleted in no time. Coal stores energy better than anything in freezing cold weather.

In Texas which produces more alternative energy than anywhere, and a cold snap will be a few days. It makes sense there. When you start talking the northern USA, this weather can last for months!

Man, I am so seek of you and Tooms lecture what Americans should do from abroad. You should have been stuck in the Northern USA going without power or paying electrical bills through the nose like everyone else. But you do not practice what you preach!