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I made a point yesterday to USB: All this event that happend was weird.
These gunmen were after someone specific and they couldn't find him.
Well, my point is that I want to point out that am still doing my club rounds at night, still doing my lunch buffet rounds at noon.
You guys can really start thinking about it whan I write here: I am quiting the SC scene.
But that will just not happen right now, boys and girls.
[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]This Wednesday, the night of my return to Monterrey, fifty masked gunmen stormed a downtown Monterrey Holiday Inn kidnapping several hostages. The Holiday Inn is less than two miles from where I stay.
The attack is believed to be drug related, and fortunately, no deaths were reported during the pre-dawn attack. Police response was delayed because the criminals used stolen vehicles that they used to block the roads leading to the hotel. The SOBs went room to room with the desk clerk to find the specific ones they were targeting, obviously to gain access to their locked doors, and take them hostage.
I am, for the first time, considering a self imposed exile from Mexico as a result of this escalation. Up until now, I was relatively nonchalant about it, believing that crime is certainly everywhere, certainly in the United States.
I am getting so much pressure now from loved ones back home that are concerned for my safety, that I am likely to have to return home prematurely because of Wednesday's events. I am not fearful myself, as I have always been kind of a fearless soul, marching into the stare of the Devil himself if I sense there to be an upside on the other side. But, loved ones are not so strong...
The terrorists, and that's what they are, they are ruining my fun!!!!!! And, it may be ruined for a very long time. Is there nothing more to happen to we Gringos? First, we are screwed by our financial system, robbed of our savings, our economy stands to be wrecked for 20 years to come by the bums running our government, not to mention the crooks running our corporations. And NOW...we can not even escape the madness by slipping away temporarily to our beloved Mexico for fear that we will be targeted, kidnapped, and ultimately assassinated by a bunch of losers.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Amigomio]
ElCabron, USB, Doubt, me and many others have been personally betrayed by GFs that have dropped any well laid plans in favor of the guy with more bills in his wallet.
Any time you lay foot at a club, you must have the idea that everyone is after your money, even if they are not.
Thing is you have to work yourself around all these barriers, flank the girls defenses, let them know you know how business works, and hit them hard.
And show no weakness, cause you will be lost.[/QUOTE]
Amigomio is correct. They will take the highest bidder. Problem is, you might not be there to up your bid. I have learned to jump when I find something I like and don't make plans for later. I've also learned that I might find something I like better later too. Once I developed that "I don't care" attitude with them, then things got a lot easier on me.
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Sorry, a bit off topic, what are the upper level clubs? I have been to infinito and it was not bad, but the privados were a bit too public for me.
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Hey Marius,
Well, yeah, things have, just in the last 4 weeks seemingly, taken a more serious tone here. It isn't Beirut yet, but it definitely requires one to take an extra measure of security. If anyone comes down now, just take things a little slower, and think over what you're doing before you do it. Keep track of your surroundings, and maybe be a little on edge when you're out and about. Hey, if they really want you though, you're probably toast. If they come looking for me in my hotel, they're going to have a rude awakening when they see my bank account :-).
I know Amigomio, and he is basically a Pollo in Sheep's clothing. Just joking...comon' don't get mad, get even! :-)))
The reason I used Amigomio for the brunt of that little jab is I know that he is a very intelligent, careful, and cautious kind of hombre. He is still frequenting El Infinito and the rest of the bars. I believe that in this present environment anything can happen, so I don't mean to minimize your warnings about what might occur Marius. Your warnings are prudent, and I did not mean in my former comments that anyone should minimize the risk. There is a risk here. Just when I start to minimize any risk, with my kind of luck, that's when I'll get my head shot off.
But, Amigomio is still going, and if he is still making the rounds, I'll go with his assessment...until he gets me killed...then, I won't have much to say about it. :-)
I have contemplated taking a rest from such frequent visits, and I might still do it. But, I have a lot to lose. I have other responsibilities to a relationship here that keep me coming down as often as I do. I have to take care of my girl, and try to keep things moving in the right direction with her, or I will probably lose track of her. It has little to do with sex or mongering now, so I am really trapped. I am literally here probably far more often than I would probably otherwise be given the violent circumstances.
Next time you come down, let me know and we can hang out together if I'm around Marius. Going to El Infinito tonight with Amigomio. Wish me luck. I would like to be packin,' but the gun laws here prohibit my doing so.
[QUOTE=Marius 67]Unospongebob,
I told you so. Society in Mexico has deteriorated. I would not dare tell of the Insane Tales of Horror the Taxi's, Bar Tenders, Bus Drivers, and our local dancers have told me. Infinito is at the heart of Zeta territory. Be careful!. Lots of dancers and waiters fear that Infinito might be sprayed with bullets. Just make yourself a hard target when going to Infinito.
I also feel that I'am getting priced out at Infinito. I can't afford that kind of cash every weekend. I need to find other venues in Monterrey.
UnospongeBob please stay safe amigo, I would like to meet and hang out some time in the future. Your past writings got me involved in this hobby.[/QUOTE]
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Actually, you're right on topic...
Prestige
Amnesia
Obsession
Poisson
I thinik I am forgetting at least one. You know, there has been a few new places spring up that are trying to represent themselves as High End, at least their prices are high end anyway. I don't recall the names of the new places, but Amigomio might know of them from his Yahoo group. They are all of them relatively small I believe. Amigomio, what am I forgetting?
[QUOTE=IhateUPS]Sorry, a bit off topic, what are the upper level clubs? I have been to infinito and it was not bad, but the privados were a bit too public for me.[/QUOTE]
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Exactly, within reason, you have to jump at the opportunities and take your lumps if you choose wrong. If you wait for everything to line up, the opportunity usually deteriorates with them, and you just find yourself with blue balls, and being frustrated that you're stuck with the second string to choose from. Amigomio doesn't have to do this because he can take his time. But, even as frequently as I am here in Monterrey, I have to also make quick, and sometimes rapid assessments to maximize my travel dollar, and frequently make what someone that lives here would consider hasty and careless kinds of selections.
And, Amigomio will love this analogy after our political discussions today...With respect to selecting girls, if you don't have the time to aim, you're best pulling out the shotgun, verdad?
[QUOTE=Doubt98]Amigomio is correct. They will take the highest bidder. Problem is, you might not be there to up your bid. I have learned to jump when I find something I like and don't make plans for later. I've also learned that I might find something I like better later too. Once I developed that "I don't care" attitude with them, then things got a lot easier on me.[/QUOTE]
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I read something about a metropolis premier on some spanish site. Is that 1 any good? I'm not looking to give money away like at a SC from up north, just looking for a bit of an upgrade. Any of those a board fav? I'm not big on bouncing all over the city looking for a place unless I feel like the people @ the club are trying to rip me off.
[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]Actually, you're right on topic...
Prestige
Amnesia
Obsession
Poisson
I thinik I am forgetting at least one. You know, there has been a few new places spring up that are trying to represent themselves as High End, at least their prices are high end anyway. I don't recall the names of the new places, but Amigomio might know of them from his Yahoo group. They are all of them relatively small I believe. Amigomio, what am I forgetting?[/QUOTE]
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Let me clarify USB's post on the upper level high end clubs so IhateUPS might get the whole picture.
Grand tourism type SCs:
(uberexpensive)
1. Amnesia
2. Premiere
3. Reno
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5 Star clubs
(expensive)
4 Prestige
5. Obsession
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And the rest:
4 Star clubs
(Less than expensive)
6. Poisson
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3 Star Clubs
(Moderate priced clubs)
7. Harem
8. Pasarelas
9. Casino
10. Womans
11. La Coneja
12. Chocolate
13. Azul Tequila
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Working Class clubs
(Still moderate priced)
14. Infinito
15. Tangalay
16. Givenchy
17. El Cielo
18. La Cava
19. Matehuala
20. Siamesas
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And of course there are the rest.
There are many out there in Monterrey, but these are probably the most known in the area.
[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]Actually, you're right on topic...
Prestige
Amnesia
Obsession
Poisson
I thinik I am forgetting at least one. You know, there has been a few new places spring up that are trying to represent themselves as High End, at least their prices are high end anyway. I don't recall the names of the new places, but Amigomio might know of them from his Yahoo group. They are all of them relatively small I believe. Amigomio, what am I forgetting?[/QUOTE]
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How does that country western song go?
"I've got friends in LOW PLACES" :-) As in, El Infinito, El Cielo, Givenchi, and the lowest of the low, Beibis, Parthenon (when, and if it's open, and not being falsely charged with child trafficing)...oh, and Tango too!
And, the reality is, just as Marius was saying, the expenditures, even in the lowest of the low, will eventually bankrupt us if we aren't careful. And, honestly, I limit my hunting to the lowest of the low for that very same reason, cost.
[QUOTE=Amigomio]Let me clarify USB's post on the upper level high end clubs so IhateUPS might get the whole picture.
Grand tourism type SCs:
(uberexpensive)
1. Amnesia
2. Premiere
3. Reno
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5 Star clubs
(expensive)
4 Prestige
5. Obsession
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And the rest:
4 Star clubs
(Less than expensive)
6. Poisson
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3 Star Clubs
(Moderate priced clubs)
7. Harem
8. Pasarelas
9. Casino
10. Womans
11. La Coneja
12. Chocolate
13. Azul Tequila
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Working Class clubs
(Still moderate priced)
14. Infinito
15. Tangalay
16. Givenchy
17. El Cielo
18. La Cava
19. Matehuala
20. Siamesas
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And of course there are the rest.
There are many out there in Monterrey, but these are probably the most known in the area.[/QUOTE]
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I've never gotten a girl out of the higher end clubs (not for a lack of trying). But I have had a few from the 3rd tier, working class and below (Tango). I noticed a difference between the working class and 3rd tier. It seemed that the higher the level, the more "normal" the girl seemed. More like the girl next door type. Not that those can't be found in the lower clubs. I believe it just might be more rare. UnospongeBob and Amigomio feel free to correct me if this is wrong.
But, on the other hand. The best experience I have ever had with a girl, bar none, hands down, best in show.... was a girl from the Tango. This is not to be confused with the Tangalay, the Tango is that rat hole, nasty bar on the corner north of El Infinito. Tango I would rate as below working class. I pop my head in occasionally and got lucky once. Never saw her in there again.
So, there might be rules to this game, there are no absolutes.
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Premiere can be singled out as the most expensive club in Monterrey in the sense that they boast they have the best girls in Monterrey within the best instalations a club can offer.
Girl part is not true at all and it hasn't been for years and only the best instalations can be labled as a "grand tourism" joint.
The girl quality you find at Premiere can be found at brother club Amnesia and others like Obsession and Prestige.
The side that hurts, it's extremely expensive to get something done here.
We must be talking around 5000 pesos to get only a quickie in one of their parlours.
Be forwarned that getting there requiers a taxi, one that will surcharge you and afterwards you yourself will be surcharged at the club for being an out of towner.
Going to Premier is not one hell of a way to move up.
My recomendation, if you really want to move up, go to Poisson first, right in the middle of the expensive and moderate priced clubs.
That way you'll exactly know how much you would pay at a place like Casino or Harem (you half the tab) or exactly the opposite, how much you would not pay at Amnesia or Premiere (you ante the tab by 100%).
[url]http://www.premiermonterrey.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=IhateUPS]I read something about a metropolis premier on some spanish site. Is that 1 any good? I'm not looking to give money away like at a SC from up north, just looking for a bit of an upgrade. Any of those a board fav? I'm not big on bouncing all over the city looking for a place unless I feel like the people @ the club are trying to rip me off.[/QUOTE]
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I was thinking poisson also when I saw your breakdown of the clubs. Infinito was ok. The drinks were cheap, the girls were nice, I just didn't have a hotel that would have welcomed guests and the privado area took a couple beers to get used to. Is sheraton still the hotel of choice? Are taxis an issue? I had no problem getting to and fro. It was cheaper than I had imagined.
[QUOTE=Amigomio]Premiere can be singled out as the most expensive club in Monterrey in the sense that they boast they have the best girls in Monterrey within the best instalations a club can offer.
Girl part is not true at all and it hasn't been for years and only the best instalations can be labled as a "grand tourism" joint.
The girls you find at Premiere can be found at brother club Amnesia and others like Obsession and Prestige.
The side that hurts, it's extremely expensive to get something done here.
We must be talking around 5000 pesos to get only a quickie in one of their parlours.
Be forwarned that getting there requiers a taxi, one that will surcharge you and afterwards you yourself will be surcharged at the club for being an out of towner.
Going to Premier is one hell of a way to move up.
My recomendation, if you really want to move up, go to Poisson first, right in the middle of the expensive and moderate priced clubs.
That way you'll exactly know how much you would pay at a place like Casino or Harem (you half the tab) or exactly the opposite, how much you would not pay at Amnesia or Premiere (you ante the tab by 100%).
[url]http://www.Premiermonterrey.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
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Sheraton is still GF friendly... till last week.
Security has been tighten all over the map.
And I don't think taxis are an issue. Still the same as last time.
If you are going to be here and the dates are concur, PM to meet other mongers that will be visiting Monterrye too.
[QUOTE=IhateUPS]I was thinking poisson also when I saw your breakdown of the clubs. Infinito was ok. The drinks were cheap, the girls were nice, I just didn't have a hotel that would have welcomed guests and the privado area took a couple beers to get used to. Is sheraton still the hotel of choice? Are taxis an issue? I had no problem getting to and fro. It was cheaper than I had imagined.[/QUOTE]
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Trainman
Usb,
Sorry to hear about this news, I am supposed to be going to Monterrey at the end of May for 5 days business. What Hotel do you think I should stay at, and also now it looks bad to go out at night to play with some girlies, do you think the concierge of the hotel may be able to bring a girn to the hotel for me.
I am also getting concerned, as I have read a alot of bad vibes, and I have to go as I need to get the business.
Please any help from anyone, and maybe Amigomio may be able to take me to the places to find the girls, or assist in getting me a regular supply to my room
Please guys anyone help me when I arrive end of May.
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Trainman
Hi Guys,
I am coming to Monterrey at the end of May, need someone to join up with to have some girl fun with.
As for all the recent troubles, is it a good idea to go out to the clubs, or would it be better to stay in hotel, and find concierge to get me girls to come to my room.
Please anyone about wishes to meet, or can help me please let me know
Many thanks
