Medellin Reports

It's super dangerous. Do not go there.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1910978]Haha true that. On second thought, centro is full of local people who will look at you all weird and stuff, probably casing you for a robbery later. Don't go there.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1910988]It's super dangerous. Do not go there.

.[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention that all the women in Centro are actually men.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1910978]Haha true that. On second thought, centro is full of local people who will look at you all weird and stuff, probably casing you for a robbery later. Don't go there.[/QUOTE]Last month I saw two gringos with shorts and flip flops in Centro.

They were talking Engpalish very loud to bunch of street girls, laughing and joking, and everybody was looking at them.

Soon police came and asked questions, and they took gringos to somewhere.

I don't know if they were arrested.

These guys better stay in Poblado.

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All I'm saying is, you were incorrect to tell the board to avoid El Centro. I echo the sentiment in DCFan's new post.[/QUOTE]I think the "Parkinsons" part of your username is kicking in, LOL. I don't have a post telling people to "avoid El Centro". Haven't made a post even slightly close to that. You can definitely quote that post to prove me wrong though.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1910961]But the action taken here is against foreigners, the public enemy is the gringo sex tourist -- in their "nicer" neighborhood.
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Now here is where I WILL mention El Centro:

Who's more visible? The guy that invites a chica over to his apartment via taxi? Or the gringo in his shorts wearing a fanny pack going door to door (read "Casa to Casa") looking for that "diamond in the rough"; the gringo trolling around the statutes and the church downtown looking for street chicks?

If I wanted to make an exploitation news piece for the evening news, do I set my camera up in Poblado were I may happen to catch a brief shot of a gringo unlocking his front door for a visiting chica? But which apartment has gringos? And what if he's napping for 3hrs and doesn't have any chicas coming over until later that evening?

Or do I set my camera up in El Centro and interview gringos all day long as they come out of New Life? Perhaps ask one of them to pause their negotiations with a street chica to give me a quick exclusive?

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1910961]But, if you think no one knows or no one is watching -- did you miss the part of Jake's arrest video where they interviewed the neighbor (lady driving in her car)?
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Who cares? If I cared that people are speculating that I may be there for sex, then I might as well shred my passport and never leave my house!

I'll say it again: I could bang 4 different chicas before lunch and be walking my happy ass down the street to McDonalds. No one you pass on the street will have any idea how your morning went unless you stopped them and told them. Sure, they can speculate, but who gives a shit about their speculations?

Show me the YouTube video with Johns and Ho's hanging out and chatting it up in front of random apartment buildings in The DR. Then show me the video of Johns and Ho's hanging out and chatting up on the strip in Sosua. Which of the two videos is harder to find?

Prosecutor: "Why did you rob the bank?"
Willie Sutton: "Because that's where the money is!"

AS SavePros said, no one cares that you are in Medellin to visit casas or anything else. Just keep it on the down low. Most latins know about it, they just don't want it thrown in their face as Cuba Dave was doing. Add in any other misadventure (s) as Colombia Jake was doing and you have a recipe for disaster.

Centro can be dangerous. There are areas you don't go. The problem is that you can't tell which are the areas to stay out of, unless you just know which streets not to go past. Some people are just easy marks and sure enough some Colombian will follow them until there is an opportunity to mug them. Or worse.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1911103]Show me the YouTube video with Johns and Ho's hanging out and chatting it up in front of random apartment buildings in The DR. Then show me the video of Johns and Ho's hanging out and chatting up on the strip in Sosua. Which of the two videos is harder to find?[/QUOTE]Is this a trick question seeing that Sosua IS the DR? (Regardless, not sure what either one has to do with Medellin.).

This past Saturday I arrived at "Ground Zero" in El Centro around 1 PM looking for a wife. I made the rounds circling the Church, the Museum, the Statues, and the Park. Lots of women around along with the drunks and glue sniffers that inhabit this area. After about an hour it started to rain very hard and everyone was standing under the awnings of the buildings and in the storefronts. I hung out for a while and was going to head back to Poblado when the rain lightened up. I opened up my umbrella and started walking around again and came upon a thin woman about thirty years old with a pretty face and beautiful eyes. We talked for a bit and she told me she was available for 20,000 Pesos. I found her desirable and wasn't going to be breaking the bank so I said let's go.

We checked into my Hotel of choice at Ground Zero the Premier Plaza. I got her a beer, a snack, and up to the room we went. We talked for about twenty minutes and she told me she had never been with a gringo before. The clothes came off, we showered, and she started giving me a bareback deep-throat blow job. Wow, incredible I almost hit the ceiling in the room. She was really into the sex, passionate, moaned, yelped, got very wet, and came two times before I finished. A passionate nympho, just my type! After an hour and a half together we exchanged numbers and I put her number on speed dial in my phone. When I gave her 40,000 Pesos she was in shock and disbelief and looked at me as though I was Bill Gates. I had such a great experience with her that I saw her again on Sunday for three hours and again on Monday.

If you can spend time in El Centro during the day, are not an obvious gringo (blond hair / blue eyes), can understand and speak some Spanish, and are not afraid to approach women in Public, El Centro is the place to be, at least for me. Poblado / Parque Lleras is a great area to stay in, but I don't waste my time looking for women there.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1911237] We talked for a bit and she told me she was available for 20,000 Pesos.

When I gave her 40,000 Pesos she was in shock and disbelief and looked at me as though I was Bill Gates. [/QUOTE]Thanks for ruining the market and doubling the price. Jejeje.

I guess 40,000 will now be expected from all the better looking girls.

I can understand giving and extra 5000, not because we can afford it, but to show thanks for excellent service. But doubling the standard price is kinda insane even if we are 2 week millionaires!

I am sure you are going to say it is not much money and you can afford it, but that is not the point, I have seen the prices go up over the years in over monger destinations and it is because of that kinda of attitude. Tip as if you are a local seems to be the best way to go.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1911339]Thanks for ruining the market and doubling the price. Jejeje.

I guess 40,000 will now be expected from all the better looking girls.

I can understand giving and extra 5000, not because we can afford it, but to show thanks for excellent service. But doubling the standard price is kinda insane even if we are 2 week millionaires!

I am sure you are going to say it is not much money and you can afford it, but that is not the point, I have seen the prices go up over the years in over monger destinations and it is because of that kinda of attitude. Tip as if you are a local seems to be the best way to go.[/QUOTE]Oh please! What others pay should not affect you. If a chica wants to be with you, then she will take your price. If not, then she won't.

You are banking on her thinking that she would have no better offers, so you can exploit that.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1911339]Thanks for ruining the market and doubling the price. Jejeje.

I guess 40,000 will now be expected from all the better looking girls.

I can understand giving and extra 5000, not because we can afford it, but to show thanks for excellent service. But doubling the standard price is kinda insane even if we are 2 week millionaires!

I am sure you are going to say it is not much money and you can afford it, but that is not the point, I have seen the prices go up over the years in over monger destinations and it is because of that kinda of attitude. Tip as if you are a local seems to be the best way to go.[/QUOTE]I understand where your coming from and agree with what you have said, however there are always exceptions. In this case I wanted to help her out given what she told me about her situation and her life in general. I see nothing wrong with being generous when it is warranted and appropriate. You don't need to worry about me doubling the price for all the other mongers who partake in the El Centro street scene. The average rate for the street girls is around 30,000 Pesos for an hour, so 40,000 pesos for an hour and a half it still in line with the going rate. Mongering in El Centro is very different than other monger destinations in the World that have experienced price increases. I really don't know of any other monger destinations similar to the El Centro street scene except maybe Tijuana in some ways which has not experienced any price increases for several years. In fact the prices have actually gone down given the strength of the US dollar.

What do you mean better offers? She won't get better offers. You are in el centro duh! The going street price is 20-25 k plus 10 k for room for a 1/2 hour. . The chica accepted your price and you gave her trouble. What kinda sense is that. Guys, the younger chicas would smell the gringo a mile away and charge you more of the break. 35-40 k but you say nah hoe the price is 25 k. And if she give you a great time then you tip 5 k. 10 k tops. You went with a older chica like I did this morning at 9 am. She charged me 20 k plus 10 k room. Decent services and I didn't tip her shit. These street hoes aren't used to tips. Fuck that!

[QUOTE=Queens35;1911385]Oh please! What others pay should not affect you. If a chica wants to be with you, then she will take your price. If not, then she won't.

You are banking on her thinking that she would have no better offers, so you can exploit that.[/QUOTE]

It seems some mongers have a small bit of a heart and / or soul remaining, LOL. I have to admit, when I hear some of these low prices offered to me, I feel extremely guilty, almost like I'm exploiting the chica. 20 k pesos is an insanely small amount of money, it amounts to $6.83 at the the present exchange rate. Doubling that means you paid a bank breaking $13.66.

And despite what some folks are bound to say here, 40 k pesos doesn't amount to much down there. Even in the poorest estrata 1 barrios, $13.66 doesn't get you that much more in Colombia than it does in the states. I suspect these girls are low-balling themselves partly because the supply around them must seem infinite, and they may possibly have some bad habits they need to feed if you know what I mean. Especially the ones prowling centro. So be careful with those rock-bottom prices as desperate girls with addictions have weak immune systems, and you can end up with a "souvenir" from your trip if you BB with these types of girls.

Now putting aside all that, I never use the word propina with the girls. If they treat me right, I give them something extra. I always tell them "para su familia" "for your family" as I'm trying to set in their mind it's an occasional gift, not a tip for service. If I give extra, it's at the first time I session with a girl (because I want to encourage her to see me again) and at the end of my trip.

I set expectations with these girls, I explain to them "no doy regalos cada vez" I don't give gifts every time. I tell them this right after they got their gift.

Of course, there's a risk to this, some girls think they can spring some sob story about their mother or whatnot, to you or some other gringo coming by in her near future.

My principle is that the girls that whine the most and give me the most sob-stories get the least or nothing extra at all, even though sometimes I believe them.

I don't think Surfer did anything too bad; going from 20 to 40 is not as sinful, LOL, as going from 200 to 400! If he wanted to keep her in the rotation and keep her energies focused on him, then he did the right thing for himself and for her since she made a little extra change (certainly not enough for her to move out of her barrio or open a savings account, LOL).

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;1911412]What do you mean better offers? She won't get better offers. You are in el centro duh! The going street price is 20-25 k plus 10 k for room for a 1/2 hour. . The chica accepted your price and you gave her trouble. What kinda sense is that. Guys, the younger chicas would smell the gringo a mile away and charge you more of the break. 35-40 k but you say nah hoe the price is 25 k. And if she give you a great time then you tip 5 k. 10 k tops. You went with a older chica like I did this morning at 9 am. She charged me 20 k plus 10 k room. Decent services and I didn't tip her shit. These street hoes aren't used to tips. Fuck that![/QUOTE]I don't agree that a younger Chica versus an older Chica can sniff out a Gringo faster. As far as tipping, decent service doesn't warrant a tip like you say, however when a Chica in El Centro rocks me, she's going to get a tip and maybe even double what she quoted me if the experience was incredible and I know I'm going to repeat with her. So what do I get in return for this? Well my experience has been that when I repeat with them I get the "royal" treatment of at least an hour or more instead of the "typical" experience you had in El Centro. Everybody rolls different.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;1911550] As far as tipping, decent service doesn't warrant a tip like you say, however when a Chica in El Centro rocks me, she's going to get a tip and maybe even double what she quoted me if the experience was incredible and I know I'm going to repeat with her. So what do I get in return for this? Well my experience has been that when I repeat with them I get the "royal" treatment of at least an hour or more instead of the "typical" experience you had in El Centro. Everybody rolls different.[/QUOTE]Oh yes. That is what I was doing with my wonderful girl who I named "glue sniffer" in my reports of September 2015 here (make a search if you did not read and are curious). I was giving her and her friend (every time different) 40 k-50 k each time. Was I spoiling the market? Not really. What market by the way?? I want to see how many can go after midnight around Perpetuo Socorro. I was special to her, she was special to me.

What was I getting in change of the double fee? True GFE coupled with porn-star experiences, beyond any expectation, and something close to a friend in an environment where I was not looking one. Even a phone call for the "Dia de Amor y Amistad".
(No, she was not a zombie. Pretty, clean, honest and still unspoiled in spite of the dump where I found her).

[QUOTE=Queens35;1911385]Oh please! What others pay should not affect you. If a chica wants to be with you, then she will take your price. If not, then she won't.

You are banking on her thinking that she would have no better offers, so you can exploit that.[/QUOTE]What do you mean if a chica wants to be with you? Are you forgetting that these are hookers and they are doing this as a job and not for romance?

So at your job where you assemble widgets, your boss's best friend tells him oh please, what other companies pay should not affect you. If Queens35 wants to assemble widgets, then he will take your price. I doubt if you are going to the job everyday for your love of assembling widgets, but in reality to put a roof over your family's head and food in their mouths. And should your boss only offer you half of the pay that you are accustomed to getting then you would tell him to go fuck himself and look for work elsewhere, the same as the hooker is capable of doing.