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[QUOTE=Doggus;2955335]Hey folks,

I've read through the last 10-15 pages and can see quite a few conflicting reports. Some say it's easy for bule to pick up pinay in coffee shops, or just turn on Tinder, be direct about your intentions and they'll come flocking. Others say it's not the best for short-term visitors these days (2-3 weeks).

Before I drop a few $ on flights & hotel can anyone confirm which is more accurate? FWIW I'm 40, decent looking white guy in good shape if that makes any difference. Only interested in non-paid encounters although happy to pay for the food / drinks on dates.

I'm keen to hit the Far east but am flexible on location and so perhaps there's another country / city that would be better for non-paid action with the locals?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]If there are tall young Korean or Japanese guys around, you stand no chance.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2957758]If there are tall young Korean or Japanese guys around, you stand no chance.[/QUOTE]I don't think they are coming to PH, I only saw few like you describe, and they were always accompanied by pretty Korean girls. The majority of Koreans coming to PH are young and puffy, but the filipinas still crazy about them because they're the closest thing to the K-pop stars and actors they get bombarded with on TV and phone. Sometimes I wonder if that's part of some grand mind control experiment conducted by the Koreans.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2957722]Mate, the Vagina has and will always be an economy in itself. If you find one, you're going to have to pay in some way to take advantage of it, no matter where in the world you're searching. If you do ever happen to find a free one, please share _ Phil.[/QUOTE]Or alternately, if the OP finds one that costs money, but is attractive and has few miles on it (bit like a used car), please share. . .

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2957808]Or alternately, if the OP finds one that costs money, but is attractive and has few miles on it (bit like a used car), please share. . .[/QUOTE]A possible new business opportunity??

Where I am, the local AA offers a $79 pre purchase check and inspection. I'm sure lots of LDR Romeo's would jump at the opportunity of a confirmation that girlie is who she says she is and performs as promised. 😊.

G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957831]A possible new business opportunity??

Where I am, the local AA offers a $79 pre purchase check and inspection. I'm sure lots of LDR Romeo's would jump at the opportunity of a confirmation that girlie is who she says she is and performs as promised. 😊.

G.[/QUOTE]Am happy to test drive the unit for half that price. Capitalism at its best.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2957793]I don't think they are coming to PH, I only saw few like you describe, and they were always accompanied by pretty Korean girls. The majority of Koreans coming to PH are young and puffy, but the filipinas still crazy about them because they're the closest thing to the K-pop stars and actors they get bombarded with on TV and phone. Sometimes I wonder if that's part of some grand mind control experiment conducted by the Koreans.[/QUOTE]Read his last sentence.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2957831]A possible new business opportunity??

Where I am, the local AA offers a $79 pre purchase check and inspection. I'm sure lots of LDR Romeo's would jump at the opportunity of a confirmation that girlie is who she says she is and performs as promised. 😊.

G.[/QUOTE]This is a good idea, but the market is so large. Being that the Philippines requires a sim be registered, it is possible to run a service similar to Mr. Number in the US (which a lot of escorts use to write notes about clients). It isn't foolproof, though, and comments aren't verified. But maybe it's the closest we could get to something that would work like that for working girls. But for LDR Romeos, I don't think it would make a difference even if it is a private investigator. People will believe what they want to believe if they are infatuated and have their guard down. Been there, got that t-shirt, and moved on. . .

You live and you learn.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2957793]The majority of Koreans coming to PH are young and puffy, but the filipinas still crazy about them because they're the closest thing to the K-pop stars and actors they get bombarded with on TV and phone. Sometimes I wonder if that's part of some grand mind control experiment conducted by the Koreans.[/QUOTE]Mate, I'm not sure if the K-Pop thing and a Korean fascination is the real reason.

It's 'cause they've got the cash and the Korean businesses have filtered in and work together to supply their customers with the whole experience.

I sit back having a late afternoon beer in Sabang, just in time for the Korean guys to parade their talent down the new boardwalk on their way to a Korean restaurant.

And the girls look absolutely miserable.

Yes, there's your typically loud Americans, obnoxious fellow Australian's and up-front rude Europeans (ie: Germans) about, but the Koreans have perfected the take-over.

I sit back with my older Filipina pocket-rocket gymnast and she confirms it all.

As someone who has worked in the scene for many years, and was a Mama at one stage, she suggested us obnoxious ones should stick to the older, more experienced girls for a better and cheaper experience. The young ones are just chasing the Korean cash.

She's not wrong in my opinion.

The genuine girls want a good time with you and it's not short time only.

Keep in touch with them, and chances are, you'll have the best ride of your life with a girl who's a little more mature and great fun at the same time.

Just my experience _ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2957952]Mate, I'm not sure if the K-Pop thing and a Korean fascination is the real reason.

It's 'cause they've got the cash and the Korean businesses have filtered in and work together to supply their customers with the whole experience.

I sit back having a late afternoon beer in Sabang, just in time for the Korean guys to parade their talent down the new boardwalk on their way to a Korean restaurant.

And the girls look absolutely miserable.

Yes, there's your typically loud Americans, obnoxious fellow Australian's and up-front rude Europeans (ie: Germans) about, but the Koreans have perfected the take-over.

I sit back with my older Filipina pocket-rocket gymnast and she confirms it all.

As someone who has worked in the scene for many years, and was a Mama at one stage, she suggested us obnoxious ones should stick to the older, more experienced girls for a better and cheaper experience. The young ones are just chasing the Korean cash.

She's not wrong in my opinion.

The genuine girls want a good time with you and it's not short time only.

Keep in touch with them, and chances are, you'll have the best ride of your life with a girl who's a little more mature and great fun at the same time.

Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]I was married to one 27 years younger than me for almost a decade, but I didn't listen to the forum advice not to take them out of the Philippines (mine was Vietnamese) after that I got myself a few "older" ones, in their 30's, but lately it just happened that they were all much younger, the one that lives with me right now is 24, we been together for over 1 year, and so far it works great, especially that she has no kids. For her benefit I'm trying to show her the real ways the world works, not how they see it from the PH perspective, but only lately she started to show interest, after she talked to some of the filipino crew on the cruises we took together, and she realized that there are many opportunities in this world, unknown to the commoners, and she may not know everything like she was convinced before. In a way is fun to see results when remodeling a young mind, I have previous experience from the vietnamese one, but that one wasn't that stubborn. Right now I'm working on shyness, clothing, and most important on the gastronomic preferences.

We are far from AC, the Koreans didn't discovered this island yet, but when her GFs come over and they watch TV together, they always giggle and comment when they see all those boys that look like girls in the korean telenovelas, this is one of the reasons why I'm saying that there must be something else than only money, when the AC BGs only want to get BF by koreans, but who knows for real what's going on in their mind? Few of the BGs in AC told me that they have Korean boyfriends, and they will take them to Korea, but of course they all went dark, I even met one that was pregnant with one, and a few that lost their virginity to them.

Two of my Friends Married their girl friends and both got a divorced by their wife's once they got back to the USA.

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Doggus;2955335]Hey folks,

I've read through the last 10-15 pages and can see quite a few conflicting reports. Some say it's easy for bule to pick up pinay in coffee shops, or just turn on Tinder, be direct about your intentions and they'll come flocking. Others say it's not the best for short-term visitors these days (2-3 weeks).

Before I drop a few $ on flights & hotel can anyone confirm which is more accurate? FWIW I'm 40, decent looking white guy in good shape if that makes any difference. Only interested in non-paid encounters although happy to pay for the food / drinks on dates.

I'm keen to hit the Far east but am flexible on location and so perhaps there's another country / city that would be better for non-paid action with the locals?

Cheers.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2958008]I was married to one 27 years younger than me for almost a decade, but I didn't listen to the forum advice not to take them out of the Philippines (mine was Vietnamese) after that I got myself a few "older" ones, in their 30's, but lately it just happened that they were all much younger, the one that lives with me right now is 24, we been together for over 1 year, and so far it works great, especially that she has no kids. For her benefit I'm trying to show her the real ways the world works, not how they see it from the PH perspective, but only lately she started to show interest, after she talked to some of the filipino crew on the cruises we took together, and she realized that there are many opportunities in this world, unknown to the commoners, and she may not know everything like she was convinced before. In a way is fun to see results when remodeling a young mind, I have previous experience from the vietnamese one, but that one wasn't that stubborn. Right now I'm working on shyness, clothing, and most important on the gastronomic preferences.

We are far from AC, the Koreans didn't discovered this island yet, but when her GFs come over and they watch TV together, they always giggle and comment when they see all those boys that look like girls in the korean telenovelas, this is one of the reasons why I'm saying that there must be something else than only money, when the AC BGs only want to get BF by koreans, but who knows for real what's going on in their mind? Few of the BGs in AC told me that they have Korean boyfriends, and they will take them to Korea, but of course they all went dark, I even met one that was pregnant with one, and a few that lost their virginity to them.[/QUOTE]I would wager, the Korean love soap dramas are the no 1 watched on NEtflix.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2929041]I had a 24 h layover in Manila, after going through the forum I saw many folks mentioning LA Cafe so I gave it a try. I arrived around 9. 30 pm and have to say I never saw so many ugly girls at one place. They asked me if I know the prices and I said between 2,500 - 3,000 and then they started laughing. They said min. Is 5,000[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Donnahito;2929107]I was there in 2020 right before everything shut down, and the place was packed by ladies obviously in their 30's and older and sorta fugly[/QUOTE]It's important to realise the kind of venue LA Cafe is. It's not somewhere you go, have a quick saunter around, pick a stunner and take her home. It's a freelance bar packed with many girls, the large majority of which will not be to your liking. But there are always gems if you are patient. I find it's a bar best enjoyed with a drinking partner, to have a few beers and make a no-rush choice which girl you're taking back to your hotel. Also worth bearing in mind that 11 pm-12 am seems to be when a lot of the prettier girls arrive and generally the prettier girls can be found upstairs.

Regarding prices, it depends on the quality of girl obviously, but 5000 is very steep. In March this year I met this cutie, standing in the bar downstairs. She was 23, absolutely tiny with a pretty face. When I asked how much she replied '3000 for two hours'. Next night I chose a girl purely based on the size of her tits (D-Cups, you'd approve). She quoted 5000 but immediately accepted my 3000 counter-offer.

On a side-note, is it true LA Cafe has changed its name to Midnight Haven?? Not the greatest name for a bar famed for being open 24 hours! I might offer them some free marketing advice when I next visit in February.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2958008]
We are far from AC, the Koreans didn't discovered this island yet, but when her GFs come over and they watch TV together, they always giggle and comment when they see all those boys that look like girls in the korean telenovelas, this is one of the reasons why I'm saying that there must be something else than only money, when the AC BGs only want to get BF by koreans, but who knows for real what's going on in their mind? Few of the BGs in AC told me that they have Korean boyfriends, and they will take them to Korea, but of course they all went dark, I even met one that was pregnant with one, and a few that lost their virginity to them.[/QUOTE]Its pretty simple. Koreans are simpler clients than westerners. Westerners will interview the girl and ask invasive questions in the bar like, do you give head without a condom, do you do anal? Do you do this or that. Who wants to answer questions like that? Yes we all know they are hookers, but they have still have a sense of shame about their work. I've seen it mentioned before and I agree. Koreans are more about appearances. They want the most beautiful woman and they are not price sensitive about it. Then they just sit and watch the Koreans drink, many times, they don't even have sex.

Would you rather sit around and drink with some korean guy or get paid less and get hammered all night by some westerner? Answer seems pretty obvious to me.

[QUOTE=AttilaTheHun;2929041]I had a 24 h layover in Manila, after going through the forum I saw many folks mentioning LA Cafe so I gave it a try. I arrived around 9. 30 pm and have to say I never saw so many ugly girls at one place. I found one that looked half way decent, started talking to her, she needed help from her friends because she didn't speak english well and they quickly wanted to find out if I came here before.

I said it's my first time but the place was recommended to me. They asked me if I know the prices and I said between 2,500 - 3,000 and then they started laughing. They said min. Is 5,000, which I found a bit odd because I could swear I saw an amount mentioned here below 3,000. I went out to make my way home and another girl came over to talk to me.

She was average looking and I thought since I was technically already on my way home I asked her if she wants to come with me. I asked her how much and she also said 5,000, to which I said that I only have 4,000 and within a blink of an eye she said that was okay for her. Now I knew they were inflating the prices. The taxi came after 10 min and I told her that I changed my mind. Left home alone, but didn't loose 4,000 to average looking chicks.[/QUOTE]They probably spotted you from a mile away as a first timer. Of course they are going to say 5 k. I laughed so hard when I read your line about never seeing so many ugly girls in 1 place. You're so right. LA Cafe is where average girls (5's) go to feel like they are 10's. Its that bad. If you go in there not expecting much, then it can be fun. But if you going there to find some pretty filipinas, you've gone to the wrong place. With the amount of makeup the typical LA Cafe girl uses, I'm surprised when they can form a smile.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2958026]Its pretty simple. Koreans are simpler clients than westerners. Westerners will interview the girl and ask invasive questions in the bar like, do you give head without a condom, do you do anal? Do you do this or that. Who wants to answer questions like that? Yes we all know they are hookers, but they have still have a sense of shame about their work. I've seen it mentioned before and I agree. Koreans are more about appearances. They want the most beautiful woman and they are not price sensitive about it. Then they just sit and watch the Koreans drink, many times, they don't even have sex.

Would you rather sit around and drink with some korean guy or get paid less and get hammered all night by some westerner? Answer seems pretty obvious to me.[/QUOTE]You're right about the koreans, a girl even told me that the korean she's been with didn't touch her for I don't know how many days, and before leaving asked her for a bite on his neck to show off back home how he drove her crazy in bed.

About interviewing the girl about the stuff that we're going to do, I never ask in a brutal way for example for CIM, I always play around with words, telling her that she has the prettiest mouth I ever seen, and I would really, really like to come in it because is irresistible, or stuff like that. I ask my questions while praising the girl, and even if she says no to something, you can tell if you can change her mind or not later. I never treat them like cattle.