Manila

True, I thought about going to La Union where I would've access to college girls but then 6/7 hrs bus ride one way out of 2 days didn't seemed worth it that time. I've been to AC on my very first visit. Friend of mine is a Teacher at the University there. Walking Street isn't really my scene though. I prefer non-pro, worst case semi pro.

I tend to stay far away from crazy shit and sketchy areas but then look how I managed to invite trouble to my door step.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2959348]Man! That sounds like a total disaster, I never even heard of such huge prices in the PH. I'm not an expert in the Manila scene, been there only few times out of necessity, after I saw some movie like fucked up dangerous shit happening in broad daylight, but it looks like you could have had the best time of your life for that kind money, only 2 hours away in AC.[/QUOTE]

Tell me about it! Never done such stupid shit and never will. I still don't know what was I thinking. Must be them non-stop Tiger Beers I had on my flight to Manila from Bangkok, LMAO.

Should've showed some interest to that middle aged flight attendant who was extra nice to me and were throwing herself all over me with all those friendly nonsense talk. Would've yield better outcome compared to the Bakla.

I guess it was in a way of resetting my conscious.

[QUOTE=Jarango;2959355]You gave a bloke you did not know access to your building and your room number. He brought another bloke with him. You escaped a bullet as they were definitely going to rob you at the very least. NEVER do amything remotely like thatagain.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zippos;2959292]The Disaster.

Just got back home from 2 months of Middle East and Asia work trip and Sexpedition. It was a hectic remaining trip Philippines onward hence reports are delayed.

Day 11 - The walk of shame.

Lily the Bakla. Arrived Manila from Bangkok at late evening. While in Bangkok, pinged all my contacts but didn't get many responses and some weren't available for few days. Only Lily responded. I had met her on Pina Love few months ago and I totally forgot or slacked on following the rules of engagement. Bakla was all ready to come over and Telegram (Sofiafvck, phone last 4 digit 9798) was full of highly photoshopped pictures. Deal was finalized for 5 k for full night.

Mistakes that I never made before and never will. Didn't do a video call, Didn't meet at a public place and told her my apartment number, unbelievable! Not sure what I was thinking.

I asked her to wait for me at reception but got a text saying I'm here and on my way to your apartment, WTF! I got out and headed for elevator and saw Bakla accompanied by another Bakla (fugly, even street dog would avoid pissing on her). I immediately Who TF is your friend and let's head downstairs. Soon we reach lobby, Baklas friend flee the building and Lily started arguing to pay cancellation fee which is 5 k.

I gave her 1 k for taxi and told her to GTFO! Another mistake, shouldn't have paid. Bakla started demanding 5 k and started causing scenes at the reception. It's a residential apartment with lots of families sitting at lobby. I asked the receptionist and security to get her out but Bakla wouldn't leave. Security guard started paging head security for help who didn't arrive! It was a total Chaos and just like Instagram trends I was in middle of "All eyes on me". I was heading towards the elevator and Bakla started following me and security guard couldn't leave the door unattended. I just said myself fuck it and paid her remaining 4 K and with a blink of an eye, Bakla disappeared.

Got back to my apartment, opened my recently purchased Don Julio and took a biggest sip humanly possible to wash off the nightmare. Called my buddy who called his cousin in Philippines National Police Drug Enforcement Group and passed on all the details of Bakla. Now Bakla is in for a surprise and hopefully won't pull such stunt again or this is probably what Bakla does for living. As per him, there is a gang of Bakla who does this scam and occasionally robs people if they are allowed to enter with second Bakla. Lesson learned the hard way and won't make that mistake ever aging. Attaching Baklas pictures for others to be alert.

Day 12.

This is where I am truly thankful to Westcoast for his support and word of comfort and encouragement. Thanks buddy, Greatly appreciated. I had about 25 k PHP left and two full days to get through before leaving for KL.

My Batangas MILF was on period, so no go.

Pina girl 1 told me she is with someone else and won't be free for a week but her friend will msg me. By the time I heard from her friend, I was already packing my bags for KL.

Pins girl 2 is available to come next day from San Miguel Bulacan, not worth it as I won't even have a day with her.

Pina 3 - look and attitude wise, maybe 2nd best one after my OFW girl from previous week. Did a video call to found out she is 2 hrs away from Manila and can't get to BGC until tonight and she has office tomorrow.

I opened up my list of Nuru massage places that I had collected from FB group and last one wasn't too bad. Well, I was wrong.

Manila home and Hotel massage. Booked a girl name Rica. 1600 php for 2 hrs massage but not body to body. Girl arrived bit late due to traffic. Picture showed big boobs but in real photoshop didn't hold its glory, almost no boobs with bit of tummy. When asked about extra, she quoted 8 k! I countered with 3 k which was still more but she didn't lowered than 4 K. Not going to pay 4 K for 1 shot. I was already in for a disastrous 3 days, might as well make the worst out of it. She didn't even took her tops off saying that will cost me 3 k and it will be body to body massage with HJ. I was like screw you, I can do it myself. Paid up and she took off. I guess she is has to be happy with 400 php after paying the agency and plus transportation to and from QC.

Cavite Massage, Extra Service Massage, Bacor Las Pinas Massage, Secret Massage Home, Manila Hotel and Home Massage.

- All are run by same group or person as Telegram contact ID for all was Kathrine 2023. Same pricing structure and who ever answer will assure you saying " Don't worry sir, our girls are all sure takers" but won't discuss the price with you but insist on discussing with the customer! I guess game is to sell some sort of massage package and bonus if someone desperate enough to pay this girls 4 K - 8 k for a shot!

Euphoric Escape Nuru Spa. Bit upscale compared to previous ones. Similar types of answers when inquired but this one guaranteed Naked full body 2 hrs Nuru massage for 2.5 k plus 500 transportation. Booked Madison. Wasn't expecting same as picture and she lived up to the un-expectations. Smaller boobs than picture and photoshopped only matched 60%. Gave an okayish nuru massage. Didn't even inquire about extra and nearly at the end, she brought it up and quoted 12 k for 1 shot. I just burst out laughing. She wasn't expecting that so I enjoyed the moment of her awkwardness. Paid her and she left saying she only gets 600 php from it. I told her I will give her 3 k for a good fuck (my exact words) but she counter saying 6 k. I just opened the door and she walked out.

The Gentlemen Spa. Took a girl name Scarlet from them on previous week where girl were expecting 30 k php for 2 pop but a zero disappeared in middle of google translate and she was not happy with 3 k for 2 pop, LOL. This time booked a girl name Ace. 80% matches picture and has big boobs. Nice and polite girl for sure and good nuru massage skills. Did everything as per package which was 2 hrs naked body to body nuru massage for 2.5 k plus the transportation. She quoted 14 k for extra (at this point I'm not surprised), I was going to laugh at her face but didn't because she was nice and polite and she did give a good nuru massage. Her own words were, these are the discussed set rates for them and she can't get lower than 6 k. You already know my answer and I just gave her a bottle of water and opened the door. This concludes my Manila massage experience and heads up for the forum to what to expect.

Contacted Manila Courtesan for Pamela (boobsy), booked her for full night package 6 pm to 6 am for 10 k 4 shot arriving next day.

Day 13 - Last day in Paradise / Shit hole.

Woke up late with a hard on as all those massages but no release from yesterday and no action from day before but on a bright side, I have Pamela coming this evening. Had a plan to meet few friends before leaving Manila and never returning again. Went to SM Aura food court as their office was near that. Had a good lunch with them. One of my friend brought his pretty colleague. They already knew about my previous day experience and were trying to convince me to give PH another try and go to province and meet someone there. I saw the pretty girl turned red hearing all these conversations, LOL. My friend told his colleague to hangout with me but she has to go back to work and I had Pamela coming around 6 pm. So, too late for it. Finished our late lunch and did some last minute shopping and went back to Airbnb.

Manila Courtesan. I would say, they live up to their standards. Very much transparent and friendly and kept me informed about Pamelas arrival. Pamela arrived shortly after 6:15 pm due to traffic. Very sweet and polite and educated girls. Pursuing her university degree and this is how she pays for her tuition fees. Look wise 6 but her attitude makes it up. Won't bore you with details, did first covered shot shortly after she freshened up. Order some grab food and Smirnoff ice type drink. Watched movies for a bit. Did second shot at around 11 pm then went to sleep. Woke up around 4 am and did 3rd shot. Didn't feel like going for 4th nor I had the time as she was leaving at 6 am. I will definitely meet her again if I ever return to Philippines and that's a big IF.

Got ready, went to airport, exchanged all the remaining Php to USD, went to Puff Lounge and sat there smoking for an hour until I bored my flight to KL.

This was my third visit to Philippines and 3rd time wasn't the charm for me for sure. If I sum it up.

1. First trip, I had my spinner and other girls from Cupid one of them stole money from me but besides that wasn't extremely bad and that's why I went second time last year.

2. Second time, I went to province, had 4 different girls including my spinner which was okay but then 1 of them was a dead fish and another one was a drama queen. Decided to give 3rd time the charm try.

3rd time the Disastrous Charm.

1. My OFW girl couldn't stay longer than 2 days.

2. My spinners cousin showed up from province with period.

3. My spinner couldn't come because husband was back in town from ship and also, she didn't have any other girls left for me to try.

4. My army wife was pregnant with 2nd child.

5. My buddy got me in touch with a girl from Baguio who was quoting me 30 k for day and half then brought down to 20 k but she would bring her friend so it would've been 40 k for 2 for 2 days, LAMO.

6. My batangas MILF was on period.

7. My Iligan MILF had found a 53 yr old divorced man from California with a cylinder, so less investment of time for her and once she gets US citizenship, either she can divorce him or wait until he gets to 6 feet under then find a young fuck boy. Also, she was meeting him in Cebu at the same time when I was there.

8. I had tried Makati red light district on my first and second visit and definitely not my scene. Don't like fuglies.

9. Got scammed by Bakla and yes it's entirely my fault as I didn't do the leg work and took precautions.

10. Lastly by the time I heard back from other Pina Love girls, I was already leaving. So not much luck there.

11. Didn't have much luck from Tinder and Bumble either. Lots a Bakla.

Thanks for reading my long post. I hope Philippines works out for you all much better than me and you get to enjoy your time here. Girls are unpredictable in general but Pinas holds the highest rank in that and iadded bonus if you had a disastrous luck like me.

Almost forgot to mention, best money changer I found for BGC / Makati area was Sheeha Money Changer in BGC. You can type "Chimac burgos circle bgc" on grab app and it's right next to it. Saw many blues lined up there changing their currency. I think they have a branch in Pasig / Passy as well.

Have fun and Happy Safe Mongering brothers.

P.S. Pictures of Bakla, not a girl![/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing that with us, we can all learn.

May I ask, given your experience, if you were in Manila again would you just use Manila Courtesan?

The only thing I would add is that whenever I see an image like your first picture I take it as a red flag. I know all girls will use filters / photoshop but that first image doesn't even look like a human being, it looks like a cartoon.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2959370]True, I thought about going to La Union where I would've access to college girls but then 6/7 hrs bus ride one way out of 2 days didn't seemed worth it that time. I've been to AC on my very first visit. Friend of mine is a Teacher at the University there. Walking Street isn't really my scene though. I prefer non-pro, worst case semi pro.

I tend to stay far away from crazy shit and sketchy areas but then look how I managed to invite trouble to my door step.[/QUOTE]Well, we all prefer the non pros, but on such a short stay like yours, you'll have to be extremely lucky to find one. I had non pros like that on short notice, but was just the luck of the moment, and never ever happened on the many occasions when I was looking for it, it doesn't matter how hard I tried, or how well I planned everything. Otherwise all the non pros that I had required a lot of hard work, lot of time, and maybe more money indirectly spent than lots of BFs combined, all with no guarantee that something may come out of it.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2959843]I had non pros like that on short notice, but was just the luck of the moment, and never ever happened on the many occasions when I was looking for it, it doesn't matter how hard I tried, or how well I planned everything. [/QUOTE]I totally concur. All of my best nights and girls have been by accident.

ID actually go further and say that heading out with a master pan and a thirsty look is the best way to come home alone.

Just go with the flow, see what happens and you can be very pleasantly surprised by what happens.

G.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2959370]True, I thought about going to La Union where I would've access to college girls but then 6/7 hrs bus ride one way out of 2 days didn't seemed worth it that time.[/QUOTE]La Union exactly my thoughts. Love that place, but the transport there and back is daunting.

Been trying to convince myself to make it a stop, butfinding it very hard. So far this is my best argument; use to love to go to subic / olongapo but it use to take 8 hours from Manila, so 4 hours transport to AC spend a few days there then 4 hours to the barrio, and same on the way back. I was younger back then, and way more active, so easily done. Now it would be 1. 25 hours from Manila to AC for a few days, then only 2 more hours to LaUnion.

I've gone back dozens of pages here and there's been nothing on [URL]https://manilacourtesans.com/[/URL].

I get that the Philippines it's Angeles City, Subic Bay, etc. But looking at what's on offer, and the incredibly low price, there's got to be something to these escorts. Some of them look pretty good too. This is the one thing that's making me think Manila could be a nice switch from Bangkok.

Reading reviews from other forums, it does seem to be hit or miss, but so is a lot of what's on offer in Bangkok, but these prices on Manila Courtesans sounds like a real steal to me.

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2959929]I've gone back dozens of pages here and there's been nothing on [URL]https://manilacourtesans.com/[/URL].

I get that the Philippines it's Angeles City, Subic Bay, etc. But looking at what's on offer, and the incredibly low price, there's got to be something to these escorts. Some of them look pretty good too. This is the one thing that's making me think Manila could be a nice switch from Bangkok.

Reading reviews from other forums, it does seem to be hit or miss, but so is a lot of what's on offer in Bangkok, but these prices on Manila Courtesans sounds like a real steal to me.[/QUOTE]They are convenient, for sure. I used them a couple of times. One thing I have noticed is it does no good to make a reservation in advance. Just call the day you want to see them. My first time was a miss. Young, nervous provider who was not prepared and noticeably uncomfortable. The second time was a resounding hit.

Prices are not bad for ST. Usually between 4. 5-7 k. LT is double that price, which isn't the best deal.

As a side note, Manila Courtesans' providers are instructed not to provide BBFS. Manila Asian Escorts (I have researched but have not used) has providers that will do that.

If my luck turn up the same way as last time, you bet! 100% Manila Courtesan. I did manage to find another Chinese run escort agency on telegram but prices are steep!

Exactly, definitely a red flag and for some reason it didn't register in my brain. Oh well, we can always learn from our mistakes.

[QUOTE=Alexandra2525;2959832]Thanks for sharing that with us, we can all learn.

May I ask, given your experience, if you were in Manila again would you just use Manila Courtesan?

The only thing I would add is that whenever I see an image like your first picture I take it as a red flag. I know all girls will use filters / photoshop but that first image doesn't even look like a human being, it looks like a cartoon.[/QUOTE]

In that case I was extremely lucky on my previous 2 visits where I had help from my spinner plus timing was right and first part of this visit until I had to go to Bangkok. Second part or second week is the one where shit went sideways royally.

If there is a next time, I will make sure to have a backup of a backup of a backup without disclosing my address to avoid 3 girls turning up at same location.

Also, I will most probably head down to province where I will have local connections from friends without booking Airbnb in Manila for the entire trip.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2959843]Well, we all prefer the non pros, but on such a short stay like yours, you'll have to be extremely lucky to find one. I had non pros like that on short notice, but was just the luck of the moment, and never ever happened on the many occasions when I was looking for it, it doesn't matter how hard I tried, or how well I planned everything. Otherwise all the non pros that I had required a lot of hard work, lot of time, and maybe more money indirectly spent than lots of BFs combined, all with no guarantee that something may come out of it.[/QUOTE]

If you are looking for my review, here it is. I would recommend 100% without any hesitation. You can chat with the receptionist from their site and she will recommend based on your requirements.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2959292]
Manila Courtesan. I would say, they live up to their standards. Very much transparent and friendly and kept me informed about Pamelas arrival. Pamela arrived shortly after 6:15 pm due to traffic. Very sweet and polite and educated girls. Pursuing her university degree and this is how she pays for her tuition fees. Look wise 6 but her attitude makes it up. Won't bore you with details, did first covered shot shortly after she freshened up. Order some grab food and Smirnoff ice type drink. Watched movies for a bit. Did second shot at around 11 pm then went to sleep. Woke up around 4 am and did 3rd shot. Didn't feel like going for 4th nor I had the time as she was leaving at 6 am. I will definitely meet her again if I ever return to Philippines and that's a big IF.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2959929]I've gone back dozens of pages here and there's been nothing on [URL]https://manilacourtesans.com/[/URL].

I get that the Philippines it's Angeles City, Subic Bay, etc. But looking at what's on offer, and the incredibly low price, there's got to be something to these escorts. Some of them look pretty good too. This is the one thing that's making me think Manila could be a nice switch from Bangkok.

Reading reviews from other forums, it does seem to be hit or miss, but so is a lot of what's on offer in Bangkok, but these prices on Manila Courtesans sounds like a real steal to me.[/QUOTE]

If I don't get down to Davao and if I decide to come back to Philippines, I will for sure head that way. Arrive at late night and take the bus while roads are sorta traffic free. Friend of mine owns a house not too far from Poro point (hopefully not saying it wrong) with a made and caretaker to look after. I got other friends there too whose cousin works at hospital. Might get lucky with a Nurse or Doctor as long as I don't wake up with one kidney or Eye missing, LMAO.

Nonetheless, will definitely have more organized plan and arrangements.

[QUOTE=Transporter;2959927]La Union exactly my thoughts. Love that place, but the transport there and back is daunting.

Been trying to convince myself to make it a stop, butfinding it very hard. So far this is my best argument; use to love to go to subic / olongapo but it use to take 8 hours from Manila, so 4 hours transport to AC spend a few days there then 4 hours to the barrio, and same on the way back. I was younger back then, and way more active, so easily done. Now it would be 1. 25 hours from Manila to AC for a few days, then only 2 more hours to LaUnion.[/QUOTE]

Will take a mental note of that G, LOL. Have few more questions about Davao. Will ask in Other areas quoting your last reply.

Another General question, how do you meet multiple non-pro who thinks they are in love with you or expecting serious relationship? I know you already said, you make it clear to them that you are not looking for LTR or marriage but sometimes not much choice if I want to score that particular one. I used to switch hotels after each girls in Jakarta. I won't if I should follow same strategy for Manila for this particular type.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2959879]

Just go with the flow, see what happens and you can be very pleasantly surprised by what happens.

G.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewtonYork;2959929]I've gone back dozens of pages here and there's been nothing on [URL]https://manilacourtesans.com/[/URL].

....but these prices on Manila Courtesans sounds like a real steal to me.[/QUOTE]There are several reasons that outcall escort hotlines aren't popular in Manila / The Philippines: they are about double the price of even high end bars; the girls are basically the same bargirls / freelancers that you can find elsewhere and; there are numerous establishments set up expressly for guys with more money than time on Burgos etc. On Burgos, not only can you see what you are buying, you will likely get a face full of tits or even a BJ for the price of a couple of get to know you drinks. Hell, some even have back rooms where even more is available. A lot more.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Zippos;2959979]

Another General question, how do you meet multiple non-pro who thinks they are in love with you or expecting serious relationship? I know you already said, you make it clear to them that you are not looking for LTR or marriage but sometimes not much choice if I want to score that particular one. I used to switch hotels after each girls in Jakarta. I won't if I should follow same strategy for Manila for this particular type.[/QUOTE]It would be extremely rare for a good girl to be throwing herself at you and actively chasing you. They are typically painfully shy and require a lot of ground work. Many girls play the good girl game and "accidentally" find themselves alone in your room at 3 am but that's just a game. Play along and pretend but getting them to do the deed is hardly a challenge.

I would never recommend lying to girls just to bed them. Morals aside, it's simply not required nor worth it. Girls have heard all the BS stories before '000's of times and know when a guy is spinning a story. They may play along if it benefits them but they know. I have had many girls compliment me as "honest" or "nice" for telling the whole unedited truth including what many would think would stop us hooking up. "But we can still be friends" is a common reply. Also remember that if you are hiding things, then this gives the message that you are easy to scam or blackmail.

There was a huge debate on the board a while ago about the level of secrecy and security required when meeting girls. Several guys promoted fake names, hiding nationality, and hotel details etc. Personally I don't bother with any of it. I don't exactly hand out my wife's email address but I know that if a girl wants to find my details, then it's extremely easy to do so. This is another reason not to lie to girls: if I haven't done anything wrong then there is no need to hide anything. It's really difficult to overstate how connected the girls are in Asia. If they want your details they will know someone at your hotel etc who can find out. It's foolish to pretend that you are hiding anything.

Enjoy. G.