Pattaya Reports

I am new in this forum and I don't really like to write here, because it is a little bit strange here and also difficult to find anything. LOL it needs to take a month holiday to read this tons of long story.

And what a much of BS is wrote here. Oh my god. Why nobody clear it up and leads the user a bit more?

But I can't hold back now and need to write some words to this payments of girls and mindless comparing with Ferrari car. And so on. Many girls in gogos don't look that much better, than girls in disco, freelancer, shopping mall or where else, and many have a bad service too exactly that's why they work in gogo. They prefer high prices and quick fuck, means ST. This is the best way to get big money and use the silly farangs. And also with this classification of girls, this one is a 6 or a 8 or a 10 and so on, where is this Brad Pitt or Elvis who can decide that? Everybody has his own taste, as example I am very picky and my girls need to be a stunner, so I think many of your choices of girls with 6 or 8 I maybe would not fuck for free!

I travel since many years to BKK and Patty and I know the reality.

Pricing for a working girl should have nothing to do with the standard in our rich home country, and it doesn't matter if someone can afford higher prices, this is just stupid. Just think about the money in our currency, in Dollar or Euro, and not in Baht!

Pricing should depends on the life standards of the country. In Thailand for a good work they earn about 400,- EUR for 1 month. So how can anybody pay for a working girl 50-75 EUR for just 1 hour Short time or about 100-150 EUR for 1 Longtime?? What a crazy and silly thing! One stunner girl from a bar in Patty told me, that's some days she can have 3 times short time with farangs in 1 evening / night and earn 10.000 Baht, about 250,- Euro in 1 evening. This is abnormal and the opposite of the own country standard.

And now I tell you something new – it seems like so!

The prices was going higher and higher in double and triple times since the year 2013 !

Bevor till the year 2013 every a ST was totally easy to get with 1000 Baht or less and a LT with 2000-2500 Baht!

I also got some LT for 1500! And I also can tell you, I am not able to have sex with ugly girls, in contrary, my girls always need t be pretty, they have beautiful face and slim body. In Thermae it was usual to have girls for 800/1000 for ST, the good stunners from gogos I got with 3000 for a LT! And now? In Thermae they try to get 2000/3000 for ST and in gogo they ask 4000/5000 for ST,. Its incredible, so crazy!

I live in Germany and a Sorttime here in my expensive town Munich is 50 to 100 EUR (2000-4000 Baht)! So why should I pay same and much more in a very poor country like Thailand?? Anybody still realize anything??

But what was happen? Since 2013 many chines people coming and throw out their money and also the western men compare that and do the same and pay every money the girls asking for. This is what the clever girls let make the prices higher and higher, because they know the stupid farangs will pay it anyway!

And you see its working! So many men pay that and also here in the forum people meaning its ok to pay 3000 for a ST, they have not enough experience or not much brain. This is much more than in our own country. Its not a question if you can afford it, its the fact that the girls cheat use as much as possible and laugh about this stupid farangs.

By the way I could afford to pay this high prices, but I don't do it, because I don't want to be this silly farang. And the girls trying more and more, in January I was there and in Ibar a girl was trying to get 4000/5000 for a Short time. I was laughng loud and asked her if there is much gold in her pussy. And 2 hours later I got a beauty girl for 2500 LT!

And now for all normal thinking men: There are enough girls around and also pretty one in discos, or other freelancer, or also some women from gogo when its late time in night and they want a business, which we can trade to a normal price and have a good time.

And for brainless men, its ridiculous to complain other user who knows that 1000/2000 is the right and normal price. They are right and you are the one without brain.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1933546]The difference is I'm with a 10/10 white skinned girl no baby, and 20-22, not a soi 6 lady working at Insomnia after her shift in Soi 6. Here, let me give you an example. I met this lady on Facebook. We haven't met in person yet, but it's soon to be. She won't be 1,000 Baht, that's for sure.[/QUOTE]I suggest you to read my first post in this debate. We were talking about Go-Go's girl and short time girls in Pattaya area (is this Pattaya thread or what? Could you find a girl like the one you have posted in any go-go bars around Pattaya? Hell no! Anyway, for the experience I have, that white skin beauty you are going to meet, will charge you a ridiculous price, probably 5000 baht up, to act like a zombie in your bed. Sorry not for me. I'm not looking for fancy piece of wood, I'm not a collector. I prefer a 6/10 isanian dark skin with a nice ass and a friendly attitude who will play real rock'and'roll in bed.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1933546]The difference is I'm with a 10/10 white skinned girl no baby, and 20-22, not a soi 6 lady working at Insomnia after her shift in Soi 6. Here, let me give you an example. I met this lady on Facebook. We haven't met in person yet, but it's soon to be. She won't be 1,000 Baht, that's for sure.[/QUOTE]I'm sure I'm not the only person who finds this kind of bragging a bit sophomoric. After all, mongering is supposed to be about fun. This is not the situation in which you need to prove something with your trophy girl, especially to people you will never meet or actually know. Any of us can put up pictures of girls and make claims about how great she is going to be, but are we any wiser for it?

Some pics taken by myself of girls who actually ask 1. 000/1. 500 baht for short time in Pattaya.

Sure they are not among the - "10/10 white skinned girls - no baby - not soi 6 bar girls " - that use to meet Mr. Bkkdog, but they are more than good for me, and I can guarantee you that they gonna blow you up in bed.

The one in stocking is a normal ladybar working in Soi Bowkao area while the naked one on soi 6. Age around 22 - 24 .

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1933968]Some pics taken by myself of girls who actually ask 1. 000/1. 500 baht for short time in Pattaya.

Sure they are not among the - "10/10 white skinned girls - no baby - not soi 6 bar girls " - that use to meet Mr. Bkkdog, but they are more than good for me, and I can guarantee you that they gonna blow you up in bed.

The one in stocking is a normal ladybar working in Soi Bowkao area while the naked one on soi 6. Age around 22 - 24 .[/QUOTE]Very nice bodies and for sure the right price. That is what they all should be getting.

Just to be clear. I understand people who are just too lazy to go around preferring to call an escort agency. Nothing wrong with that. I did it too sometime, but if we talk about freelancers, go-go bars, discoteque, night clubs, etc. Etc. It's a madness to spoil girls with thousands of baht.

Go to the bars, meet the girls, be polite, chat a little bit. The first approach will probably cost you a bit more (on drinks, bars, etc), then you get phone numbers and they're going to your room for not more than a thousand baht ST.

I'm talking about girls like the one in the pic below. Who cares if the girl is super white, got no tattoo or has an innocent face. I'm not in Pattaya for falling in love or to prove I can buy the most angelic face type. I need action, not bloody romantic tricks. Rock'and'Roll baby!

[QUOTE=SirRobby;1933718] Pricing for a working girl should have nothing to do with the standard in our rich home country, and it doesn't matter if someone can afford higher prices, this is just stupid. Just think about the money in our currency, in Dollar or Euro, and not in Baht![/QUOTE]Yes my friend, you get to the point. The first rule for a true monger should be, as you said, to analyze the price on the life standards of the country.

Now, a girl working at 7/11 get 7.000/10.000 baht (with overtime) monthly, which is about 260.00 Euro. A girl working in a factory like Chevrolet, get 15.000 baht (overtime) which is 384.00 Euro. A Bank employee get 20,000 = about 500.00 Eur, as an head nurse working at Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, so let's say that the average of salary in Thailand is 15.000 baht (384,00 Eur), while the average of salary in Europe is about 1. 500 euro (about 58.000 baht) . Paying 5000 baht a girl in Thailand for a ST is like giving 1/3 of the salary average. It's like giving 500 euro for a ST to a girl in Germany, Holland, France or Italy. If some of you guys have good pension and want to waste your money, no problem at all, but please, stop to "broadcasting" that 3.500 baht for a ST in Pattaya is the norm! Because it's NOT!

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1934007]Yes my friend, you get to the point. The first rule for a true monger should be, as you said, to analyze the price on the life standards of the country.

Now, a girl working at 7/11 get 7. 000/10. 000 baht (with overtime) monthly, wich is about 260.00 Euro. A girl working in a factory like Chevrolet, get 15.000 baht (overtime) wich is 384.00 Euro. A Bank employee get 20,000 = about 500.00 Eur, as an head nurse working at Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, so let's say that the average of salary in Thailand is 15.000 baht (384,00 Eur), while the average of salary in Europe is about 1. 500 euro (about 58.000 baht) . Paying 5000 baht a girl in Thailand for a ST is like giving 1/3 of the salary average. It's like giving 500 euro for a ST to a girl in Germany, Holland, France or Italy. If some of you guys have good pension and want to waste your money, no problem at all, but please, stop to "broadcasting" that 3. 500 baht for a ST in Pattaya is the norm! Because it's NOT![/QUOTE]You're perfectly right! Can't agree with you more. I simply reject the idea of paying for ST in Thailand same price I'd pay in Europe, even I was a $ billionaire, no way, wtf this bit*h is asking one third of the average monthly salary just for a fu*k you go back working the rice field you won't see my money.

1000 baht it's a lot of money for the average thai people with a normal job who have to work more than 3 days to earn that amount. Think of this everytime you're paying a prostitute. Well at least I do, you can do what you want it's your money, but then don't come on here saying 3500 b is the right price for ST, or that people not willing to pay that money are cheap charlie, because otherwise I'd know how to call you.

Peace.

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1934007]Yes my friend, you get to the point. The first rule for a true monger should be, as you said, to analyze the price on the life standards of the country.

Now, a girl working at 7/11 get 7. 000/10. 000 baht (with overtime) monthly, wich is about 260.00 Euro. A girl working in a factory like Chevrolet, get 15.000 baht (overtime) wich is 384.00 Euro. A Bank employee get 20,000 = about 500.00 Eur, as an head nurse working at Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, so let's say that the average of salary in Thailand is 15.000 baht (384,00 Eur), while the average of salary in Europe is about 1. 500 euro (about 58.000 baht) . Paying 5000 baht a girl in Thailand for a ST is like giving 1/3 of the salary average. It's like giving 500 euro for a ST to a girl in Germany, Holland, France or Italy. If some of you guys have good pension and want to waste your money, no problem at all, but please, stop to "broadcasting" that 3. 500 baht for a ST in Pattaya is the norm! Because it's NOT![/QUOTE]Are we double checking the math here? 384 euro per month in Thailand would seem about normal for the average worker. What doesn't look correct is the 1500 euro monthly salary as being 'average'. 1500 euro per month would 18000 euro per year, there's no way that number is correct. Think the problem here is you bring up salary and then switch to pension but even 18000 per year with a pension sounds lowball.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1934103]Are we double checking the math here? 384 euro per month in Thailand would seem about normal for the average worker. What doesn't look correct is the 1500 euro monthly salary as being 'average'. 1500 euro per month would 18000 euro per year, there's no way that number is correct. Think the problem here is you bring up salary and then switch to pension but even 18000 per year with a pension sounds lowball.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I don't get your point. Do you mean that the average in Europe is lower or higher?

You can take a look on the web. 2015/2016.

[URL]https://www.reinisfischer.com/average-salary-european-union-2015[/URL]

[URL]https://www.reinisfischer.com/average-salary-european-union-2016[/URL]

[QUOTE=Ziggy00;1934049]You're perfectly right! Can't agree with you more. I simply reject the idea of paying for ST in Thailand same price I'd pay in Europe, even I was a $ billionaire, no way, wtf this bit*h is asking one third of the average monthly salary just for a fu*k you go back working the rice field you won't see my money.

1000 baht it's a lot of money for the average thai people with a normal job who have to work more than 3 days to earn that amount. Think of this everytime you're paying a prostitute. Well at least I do, you can do what you want it's your money, but then don't come on here saying 3500 b is the right price for ST, or that people not willing to pay that money are cheap charlie, because otherwise I'd know how to call you.

Peace.[/QUOTE]And the sad thing is that 99,9 % of the girls working in sex business coming from poor villages around north area where people use to live with 3. 000 baht a month. I'm talking about North east (Isaan) and west (Sukhothai area, etc. Etc.). When they say: "I'm from Sukhothai. Chang Mai. Udon Thani. Kon kaen. Surin. Buriram, etc. " it's all untrue. They all live in small villages 100 km or more far from the main city. They move to the big cities where all farangs and rich people are (Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Chang Mai, Ko samui, etc.) pretending to be superstars. Even the Univ. Girls, the very white ones who probably say they're from Bangkok, they're not. They have all families living in the north.

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1934158]When they say: "I'm from Sukhothai. Chang Mai. Udon Thani. Kon kaen. Surin. Buriram, etc. " it's all untrue. They all live in small villages 100 km or more far from the main city. They move to the big cities where all farangs and rich people are (Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Chang Mai, Ko samui, etc.) pretending to be superstars. Even the Univ. Girls, the very white ones who probably say they're from Bangkok, they're not. They have all families living in the north.[/QUOTE]Sure you think that until you have visited home with them and find out they ARE actually from Bangkok, etc. Not sure why it would matter though. Don't farang who are from some podunk town usually round up to the closest bigger city that someone may have heard of as well?

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1934158]And the sad thing is that 99,9 % of the girls working in sex business coming from poor villages around north area where people use to live with 3. 000 baht a month. I'm talking about North east (Isaan) and west (Sukhothai area, etc. Etc.). When they say: "I'm from Sukhothai. Chang Mai. Udon Thani. Kon kaen. Surin. Buriram, etc. " it's all untrue. They all live in small villages 100 km or more far from the main city. They move to the big cities where all farangs and rich people are (Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Chang Mai, Ko samui, etc.) pretending to be superstars. Even the Univ. Girls, the very white ones who probably say they're from Bangkok, they're not. They have all families living in the north.[/QUOTE]There are many guys here on this board who are great guys! I've met a few of them in various countries.

But, why do the majority of the posters on the ISG board talk so poorly and downright insultingly of women in other countries?

Why can't many of these guys here put themselves in their shoes, and also try to comprehend and appreciate some of the life issues from the locals' (in the other countries) point of view?

Is it not possible to travel, adventure, meet women, date women, pick up women in different kinds of bars (Go Go, Beer bars, other Sois, or clubs, or equivalent in other countries), under whatever financial arrangement works best for both parties AND still have a heart? Not at all talking about a LT GF, love, marriage or sending money monthly from afar..... But just for the time when we are in their countries / with them? Can't guys just be cool?

Yeah, sure there will be rip offs now and then (nature of stats in life, generally speaking), bad decisions, things that just don't work out etc. Bad girl's, bad experiences. All a part of life everywhere in the world!

But, even given all of the above, are the majority (greater than 50 PC) of the guys on this board just really bad guys. Some jerks, some bad apples, some looking for a fight in a foreign country, some trying to cheat girls in their country, some with some hate, some with big superiority complex because they have some money, etc. Etc. ?

Sometimes, I feel that there are too many guys here who deserve to get what they end up with.

I don't know. But I think it's possible to adventure in different countries, with some appreciation for their local, personal situations and some respect for their history, context and culture and still experience the life of an adventurer. If the vast majority of the guys did that, then I think we'd all be better off. I'm not holding my breath for this though.

Having spent 20 odd years managing global businesses for Fortune 50 global corporates, I find a lot of the sentiments here intensely appalling.

No wonder things everywhere seem to be getting more expensive, more difficult, less appealing, less of a pleasure..... And more of a rip off.

Karma dudes! IMO, many here deserve what they get!

( I'm sure I'll get some pointed and hard feedback for the above....I'm prepared for it though ....so fire away).

[QUOTE=Haven123;1934251]There are many guys here on this board who are great guys! I've met a few of them in various countries.

But, why do the majority of the posters on the ISG board talk so poorly and downright insultingly of women in other countries?

(. . .)

Karma dudes! IMO, many here deserve what they get!

( I'm sure I'll get some pointed and hard feedback for the above....I'm prepared for it though ....so fire away).[/QUOTE]Hear, hear! I second your position.

It is not because I had the good luck to have some spare money that allows me to travel a few times each year that I should look down upon the less fortunate people. They all deserve our respect. When I'm hungry I will appreciate the street food cook much more than the CEO of a global food company and when I'm horny, the Soi 6 sweetheart will be my favorite rather than the HiSo "old money" socialite.

[QUOTE=MarcoStraight;1934158]And the sad thing is that 99,9 % of the girls working in sex business coming from poor villages around north area where people use to live with 3. 000 baht a month. I'm talking about North east (Isaan) and west (Sukhothai area, etc. Etc.). When they say: "I'm from Sukhothai. Chang Mai. Udon Thani. Kon kaen. Surin. Buriram, etc. " it's all untrue. They all live in small villages 100 km or more far from the main city. They move to the big cities where all farangs and rich people are (Bangkok, Pattaya, Phuket, Chang Mai, Ko samui, etc.) pretending to be superstars. Even the Univ. Girls, the very white ones who probably say they're from Bangkok, they're not. They have all families living in the north.[/QUOTE]Not all bar girls are poor from Isaan. Take the time to get to know them a little. They are not just pieces of meat for us to get our rocks off on. It is amazing was happens when you treat the girls like a real person, they become much more responsive. Generosity gets you a long way. So what if you pay 500-1000 more, this could mean the difference between the lady going after 2 hours to staying the whole night.