Just to be Clear and set the record Straight!
1. I try very hard not to overpay. I can afford to. But I don't, and I certainly don't set high expectations. I believe in under promising and overdelivering.
In Thailand, the max I agreed to pay for LT was 2,500 for a girl in Insomnia (not a beer bar or Go Go girl) who was 8 in terms of looks, dress, figure and age (20). And, she had a German boyfriend, supporting her from afar. It was NOT my best experience. She clearly preferred the 20 something guys. And had been in Pattaya for over a year. Had learned from experience. In other words agreeing to pay a bit more, a priori does not usually (for me) turn out to be great at the end.
2. The best ones were those that agreed to 1,500 LT, BUT when they were great GFE, and they stayed with me for several days. They were all under 28 and 6's and 7's. I find that to be the sweet spot for GFE and where I can set the expectations the way I like it ( for me). And after the night, they never asked me how much. I took them shopping and spent some money on them. When they left they Never counted what I gave (before they left) or even looked at it, and simply put in their purse. And, in such instances the min I paid in cash was 3,000 baht per day.
So, in other words, when I find a girl that is great GFE, is really nice and I enjoy the chemistry, they simply stay for as long as I want them to. THEN I always pay way more than they expect. So, I only expect for find say about only 1-2 such girls every week. My next 5 week trip, if I found 5-10 these kinds of girls , I would be super happy. That's all I can handle. I prefer to stay with a girl for several days.
They never knew, and had no reason to expect shopping/gifts. And, I did not try to ever tell them that I will contact them again when I return. And, I have not had any contact with any of the, since I left Thailand. Pretty much the same in all countries with maybe about 10 exceptions in total. (who I see again).
3. And my 20 year old oil massage girl from Isaan (From a massage place near Central Fetsival mall) initially stayed LT for the night from 11 pm until 9 am for 2,000 baht (4 months ago). And later she would just drop by on her own and just stay. Never asked me for anything. No negotiation. That's what she asked and I agreed without hesitation. I knew she would be great. And, she was.
4. In the DR, or in So Paulo, or Fortaleza or Curitiba, or Peru. For example. When I meet and hook up via the dating sites, I never talk money. Never. If they bring it up, or ask me to send them $, I delete that contact / conversation. It is only in Thailand that I talk money ahead of time.
5. I am going to the DR in about 3 weeks for nearly a month and I have at least another 50 net new contacts (after deletes) and at least 15 of them I'd say very good. All 19-23. And, none of them have brought up money. The ones that did were deleted.
In general, in my experience, the higher the expectation in terms of $, ahead of time, the less the GFE. But, I'd say out of about at least 100 in the last 3 years, 80 plus percent have been great. And about 20 PC very great. 5 PC bad and I quickly parted company. Another 15 per cent, no GFE whatsoever and again parted company in less than 2 hours.
So, I am not inexperienced and I don't agree to pay a lot. And keep expectations very low.
AND, very importantly I do NOT do ANY short time (a priori). Some may turn out that way only because I choose to cut it off early.
BUT, when the girl is great, I do go above and beyond and in Thaialnd gladly pay 3,000 or more baht or more, not including food and gifts. Or in other countries (not Thailand) , many gifts and trips with them to all inclusive resorts etc. , in addition to cash. One girl in Peru was so great and stayed with me for 4 weeks. And did so many touristy things, dance clubs, restaurants, shopping etc and when I left I gave her nearly $2,000 USD. But she had already begun to tear up by the elevator. It was imply great GFE and simply great chemistry.
The point being there are many nice women in many of the above countries, if you learn how to talk to me them, engage them, be truly nice to them. But, being generous after tha fact, and rewarding the ones who are great GFE, beyond their expectations pays off well for me. Call it what you want, but maybe there is some sort of karma. And even if not, most girls can tell guys pretty quickly. They may hide it. But they know it. Particularly the jerks and the assholes. So, maybe there is some sort of karma (negative karma) there as well.
So, what I am trying to say again is that there are many nice girls....but it takes time and effort. The hit ratio for me ( scoping out a place like Insomnia ( or a dating website in other countries ) is less than 10 PC. So, it requires quite a bit of effort and experience.
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Pattaya vacation 7 days for approx 30,000 Baht
It seems MarcoStraight is not up to the challenge so here goes.
So you arrive at the airport with 30,000 Baht. Take the airport Link to Phaya Thai and change to the BTS. Take the BTS to Mo Chit station, all for about 100 Baht. Once you arrive, take a taxi to MoChit Song for 60 Baht, this is the name of the bus station nearby. There you can catch the bus to Pattaya for 120 Baht. Once in Pattaya, take a baht bus to your hotel for about 50 baht.
Now the hotel. Malee Pattaya is near Central Pattaya. It is 450 Baht per night which is very affordable and quite reasonably looking, picture attached. 420 25-31 Soi Buakhao (South Pattaya) | Nongpue, Banglamung, Pattaya 21180, Thailand. This is just an example, there are many similar options available, just use booking dot com to search.
Food is next. Spend your days eating street food such as mango or pork and sticky rice. On some days head over to sizzler for their lunch specials at 200 Baht or less and get steak and all you can eat salad bar with Pasta, soup, and fruit. There are also plenty of cheap eats in small restaurants and pubs everywhere.
Mongering the most important. Go to Soi 6 in the afternoons, have a couple of beers and choose a lady. The whole encounter should be 800-1,300 Baht. In the evenings, head over to Insomnia, beach road, or a beer bar on soi 7 or soi 8. In all locations, you can find a lady LT ranging from 1000-1,500 Baht. In summary, you will have the company of 2 ladies each day with one being together with you all night. Plan for 3,000-3,500 Baht per day for mongering.
Another interesting choice would be to pay 1 lady 15,000 Baht for 6 nights of LT. Find her on the internet before you come. Cut her loose daytimes to eliminate shopping and food expenses for the lady. Just 6 nights of action.
Now, just reverse the travel instructions and head back to the airport.
Not exackly 30,000 Baht but close I think. Sorry no photos of Sizzler and street food but there is a 10 photo minimum per post.
So in summary. As long as you can afford your round trip plane ticket, you can have a great time mongering in Pattaya for 6 nights and 7 days for under $1000 including hotel, food, ladies, a few beers, and transportation to and from the airport.
Hot independent girl contact in Pattaya or Bangkok
Hi guys,
I am in Pattaya right now and it would be great if somebody can share contacts of some hot indies urgently. I will be really thankful.
Regards.
