Bangkok Reports

[QUOTE=Nick Depalma;1346053]Been to BKK, time of my life. Making a trip to lisbon / spain; was wondering if fellow experienced mongers to BKK ever been to that area. Can't get any response in that forum. Forgive me for a displaced post. Cheers brothers.[/QUOTE]HAHA. I was going to post something because I am in Lisbon now visiting a distant relative. This place is not even close to Thailand. A waste for mongering really. The only thing this place has truly is ADS in the newspaper for escorts / Incall or outall. If you are white man they seem to want 100 E, or more. But I have to say these are some of the ugliest women I have seen. Unfriendly, Unibrows, big noses, fat asses, with cigarettes hanging fom their mouths. I am not impressed with the women and the way the Portugese men drive, they appear to be sexually frustrated.

I found Spain to be better. They have some decent clubs and bars with rooms out back and the girls seem much prettier and friendlier to me. They also have the ADS in the papers for escorts.

I have not seen a massage parlor in Lisbon. I did see some SW's, but they were all very fat and black crack working girl looking. I asked several taxi drivers about SW's and they said" we don't have, it is illegal". OK, whatever.

I am sure somebody will get on here and tell us how great these places are. I don't see it at all. So again, if you are looking for BKK type action and prices, forget it. These places are not even close.

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1346409]Well,Realistically, I don't think anyone can expect to learn the culture of a new country in a seven day trip, irrespective of which locations are visited.[/QUOTE]Much true, but in a seven day trip in LOS, you can meet quite many girls and go deeper into a certain type of culture.

My suggestions for BKK hotels? Livingstone Lodge (Soi 33) and Mjestic Grande (Soi 2, just behind Nana hotel, more respectable)

Pattaya: not my area of action. I might go to PH if ever going there (the LB matter is a side issue, the hotel is not infested by LB, maybe the club is) but certainly not to meet DIA girls there.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1346451]Having said that, I ventured a few days in the early evening with time to kill and tried to find a decent free lancer, but nothing was to be found in the neighborhood of Gulliver's and beer garden. It was nothing but a sausage fest of beer drinkers, pool shooters, and not a lot of girls at either location.[/QUOTE]I'd rather try my luck with the Nana Parking Lot, soi 3 down to the Grace Hotel, soi 4 up to the 7-11, then over to Annies, and Sukhumvit from soi 3 & 4 to Soi Cowboy.

If you can't find anything worthwhile there in the evening:

1) the BIB may have just done a sweep or

2) it's due to some sort of holiday or religious festival or.

3) heavy rainfall has caused them to scurry away or.

4) you missed all the hotties. Better luck next time.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano; 1346451]Ran into a hot street walker while heading to Insomnia, I messaged her the next day and her reply was how much you give me? Never a good sign as it seems they try to see if you will offer more than they're willing to accept. I asked how much you want, and she said 2k. I countered 1K. She said NO. Ok. 1.5K. NO. LOL

LT was 4K and she wouldn't budge on either ST or LT fees. Not sure where all the hot 1k baht girls are. Pattaya? LOL[/QUOTE]Not my cup of tea, though if she works regularly at Thermae the Japanese may feel differently. Around the NPL, from what your pics showed of her, she wouldn't perk my interest, even at 500 baht ST.

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano]That's the gal who asked for 2k ST and 4K LT. Not a ladyboy.

I believe she's a regular at Thermae.[/QUOTE]RAMMSTEIN. Engel. (HD)

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcl-7MSfEaU&NR=1&feature=endscreen[/url]

[QUOTE=Chill Out; 1346256]I'm younger than you; I have the same experience. I'm only on one of the big sites. I get 2 to 5 messages a day. Girls contacting me, not replying. Most are non-pros. Unfortunately it's useless; very few of them are beautiful. I have had the account for a long time but I met almost no one from there.

Is TLL better?[/QUOTE]I'd say they are all hit and miss. Personally, it isn't worth it to me to spend loads of time on dating sites. The girls that are looking for sponsors or cash, I'd far rather see what I'm getting up front and not play any games, just pay and be happy, no need for the BS or waste of time. The ones that are "good girls" if one is looking for a GF. Well, huge numbers of them cannot speak English well enough for what I want in a relationship. I can speak decent Thai but in terms of a GF, no way been there done that. Also huge numbers of them do not look in person what the picture they posted was. I've met a few girls that I have dated anda few that I have become friends with after seeing that they didn't attract me physically in person. I would say this, if you meet a regular girl who is looking for a boyfriend / husband and you end up using her for a shag or low cost fun, all you are doing is making a more negative image of foreigners here amongst regular girls.

It is also very obvious when you spend time online which ones are busy chatting to hundreds of guys, which ones are players, and which ones really have any interest in real communication or pursuing some initial contact something further. Again, if you live here full or most of the time and want a GF and find a decent one, by all means pursue it. If you want a good root, quit trying to pretend that she is a good girl or that she doesn't want money and just go down to Sukhumvit, pay some cash, and get what you came for.

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1346409]Well, I don't think it should come as any surprise that this is a purpose of the trip, given that this is, after all, a site dedicated to that sort of pursuit. Realistically, I don't think anyone can expect to learn the culture of a new country in a seven day trip, irrespective of which locations are visited. If not those two hotels, then which ones would you suggest?[/QUOTE]I do agree with the feedback you are getting on hotel choices. I recommend doing your hotel research on web sites like trip advisor and wotif. That way you can plug in your own criteria about price and amenities etc. I do know that wotif allows you to search only Sukhumvit hotels and expect that trip advisor would too. Of course there are hotel threads here on ISG but I think the research would take longer and leave out too many possibilities.

[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1346578]I do agree with the feedback you are getting on hotel choices. I recommend doing your hotel research on web sites like trip advisor and wotif. That way you can plug in your own criteria about price and amenities etc. I do know that wotif allows you to search only Sukhumvit hotels and expect that trip advisor would too. Of course there are hotel threads here on ISG but I think the research would take longer and leave out too many possibilities.[/QUOTE]All has to do also with the hotel budget the guy has set and this we do not know, so difficult to address him.

I personally run with a comfortable hotel budget and I would not even look at at 1500b / night option, others might rate it overspending.

Rates of 3000b. Night (or a bit below) give good choices and this is my target.

As usual each one his own.

Am at Dream hotel, Mid way along Salaviki street with above grond subway. Near Asok station. Soi Cowboy is 5 blocks away. It is only one block long. Many clubs and girls. Have not taken and from there. Up street is soi15 hotel. Go towards nana plaza 50 feet and entrance to bar down low right corner. Only bar where seen this set up. Guys in middle, girls circle around and you pick. Then many on street in this area. Have been to nana plaza. Lady boy clubs third level. Learned hard way. First floor many gogos. Then on soi 4 many beer bars. Hillary 2 is pool and no bar fine. Hillarys 4 is bigger with 500 baht barfine. Had girl name the for 3 days. Wanted me to go meet perants, I said I still have to pay bar fine. She of course. Me next. Have not seen since. But total freak in bed. 38 yrs old. Solid body. 3 kids. Another bar Bankok beat I think soi 7 was fun. Pool tables upstairs. Went to Annies, Cabbage Condom resturant, [ food is good ] all tourist things. I have never felt threatened in this country. These are friendly people. Women keep figure well into 30's. To soon to come to judgements. Leave in two days. Am glad it has been done. Medicail here seems to notch compared to many places. Phrmacys sell antibitocs and Vigra over counter. If I live long enough I shall return. Hope this gives some help. RED

You where in Thermae which sort of caters to the Japanese / Koreans. Not with standing that; one can still get lucky.

[QUOTE=Redman69;1346650]Snipped . Go towards nana plaza 50 feet and entrance to bar down low right corner. Only bar where seen this set up. Guys in middle, girls circle around and you pick. Snipped RED[/QUOTE]

GS.

Thanks a lot for the information in your post. During my last visit to BKK in Feb 12, I checked out both grace and rajah but did not like the setting that much. Its kinda awkward to sit in spacious place and gawk around like an idiot!

Does anyone know if one has to use the girls room for ST or you need ro rent one? Or can one take them out.

[QUOTE=Global Surfer; 1343274]This information is about 6 months old when I last visited BKK?

Most of them are Central Asians Uzbek, Kazak, Kyrgyz and Georgians.

Street walkers on and around Sukhumvit generally cost the same I. E. BHT 1000-2000 ST. They are generally 3-4/10 and mostly past there sell by date. Some claim to be from Morocco and ask for BHT 2K-3K. Moroccans are hot favourite of Arabs. I cannot speak Arabic and as such cannot confirm if they are really from Morocco or not.

In Grace Hotel they may ask between BHT 3000 – 5000 ST. Quality is definitely better than street and almost all of them are Uzbeks or local Thais or rarely South American. Remember Grace Hotel is full of super rich Arabs.

In CM2 night club in Novotel in Silom they range from BHT 5000 to BHT 10000 LT. Quality is very good and mostly Uzbek, Kazak, Kyrgyz, Mongolians, Turks and may be some Russians / Ukrainians. You may also find blacks and local Thais. In CM2 local Thais may ask for BHT 4k and my go for BHT 3K.

I think you can find them another club called 'Boss' or 'Bossy' with quality and rates comparable to CM2. I have never been there,

In Rajeah hotel on Soi 4 may cost BHT 2500. Quality is reasonable but you have to use their room in the hotel.

Please note that prices also depend upon time of the day and your bargaining skill and I must admit that I am not very good at that.

Why they cost more.

They are not as common as locals and generally people like what they do not have. You will notice most Europeans going after Thai girls particularly from Issan province (darker in colour) where as Thais going after fairer colour locals.

Warning.

CIS may ask for money up front and they are famous for converting LT to ST I. E. Leaving after two / three hours. So be careful when you negotiate the deal and clarify everything in job interview.

Therefore, best policy is not to pay upfront.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1346238]I have to agree with you on this one. It is all about how you present yourself. Creating a profile is like advertising and you have to write somewhat surprising or "outside the box" to get attention from females bcs some of them get thousands of mails and interest / favorites addings. I try to write something to draw attention in the headline of my profile. I did write I hate prostitution and girls asking for money and / or support. I did even add I don't want girls with babies and they did have to come from / live in Bangkok. And I have to say I have got quite a lot of responses (even without me contacting them first). This is for my TLL profile. I have a feeling or atleast my impression of TLL are that girls here are a bit more genuine than in DateinAsia (DIA) and Thaifriendly (TF).

For my DIA and TF profiles I leave a more open minded feel to the girls when they read so everyone can feel free to respond. Here it is me mostly contacting the girls. I feel the TF site consists of more P4P girls than the rest (my own experience) and DIA sth in between (more LB's in DIA). I don't have the same profilename in any of the 3 sites. I have been busted once from one TLL girl but then it is just moving on.

Discussions about my financial status, living arrangements, arrivel time and so on I leave out until I need to present sth. This from tactical reasons so I can twist these arrangements into what I feel the girls need to hear. For obvious reasons I will not tell a non P4P I mostly stay in Soi 11 as normal Bangkok girls would not even set their foot in that area. Maby once in a while they will BTS themself between some of the shoppingmalls in the area but that is it. So when I am relatively sure they are not P4P and they want to meet up I will travel outside the worst monger area. If I can smell the pussy I will even change hotel to a outside sex area in BKK.

One good advice (atleast it works for me) is to twist communication in a direction stating you have relatively short time in BKK (or wherever you might stay). This will leave some preasure on the girls and since you leave shortly (this don't necessarily have to be true) you can get pussy service (outside the normal timeframe regarding traditional Thaigirls) as the girl most likely want you to remember them (you have to be tactical in how you play this game) and not will keep you wait until you come back. Sometimes this works and sometimes not.

So to Blue Nose: If you get girl to inroom visit you in Nana Hotel and / or PH Hotel (Pattis) you don't even have to wonder if the girls are P4P bcs they most certainly are. No question about it. Do not matter what their profile state. A non P4P traditional normal working girl would never ever come to that area. Even hotel staffs in that area I feel you can meet up with for mongering action purposes but they will expect some sort of compensation, hehe.

I just turned 40yrs.[/QUOTE]Congratulations with your birthday.

Did you gave yourself a nice (sexy) surprise party?

[QUOTE=Blue Nose;1346409]Well, I don't think it should come as any surprise that this is a purpose of the trip, given that this is, after all, a site dedicated to that sort of pursuit. Realistically, I don't think anyone can expect to learn the culture of a new country in a seven day trip, irrespective of which locations are visited.[/quote]REad your original post again, these were your words.

[quote]If not those two hotels, then which ones would you suggest?[/QUOTE]I'm not travel agent but I can tell you this:

BKK: Try the SOLO hotel: [url]http://www.solohotelsresorts.com/[/url] (you can get a room there for under 2000 thb) it's a stones throw to Annies and Nana Plaza.

Pattaya: I usually stay at Dusit but that may be over your budget

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1346238]So to Blue Nose: If you get girl to inroom visit you in Nana Hotel and / or PH Hotel (Pattis) you don't even have to wonder if the girls are P4P bcs they most certainly are. No question about it. Do not matter what their profile state. A non P4P traditional normal working girl would never ever come to that area. Even hotel staffs in that area I feel you can meet up with for mongering action purposes but they will expect some sort of compensation, hehe.

I just turned 40yrs.[/QUOTE]I agree with almost everything in the post except the part that I have quoted. When I first started coming to Thailand I would always stay at the Nana Hotel. It is a total shit hole and definitely not worth the 1200 baht or whatever they are charging these days. In the days that I was staying there many women who I met online visited me there. These women had decent jobs and some of them had cars. Only 1 ever said anything about money. And that was well after. She told me that if I wanted her to continue to visit me and not go to her job (hairdresser of course) then I would need to give her money. I 86ed her. Most recently I think it was Nic who posted a few CL ads. I contacted one of the girls. I thought she was full of shit because hey, it's CL. She has a University degree, a car, a good job, but she is looking for someone. I stay in the Ibis these days if I am in BKK. Hey she showed up and everything was on the up and up. She was not a P4P girl or a scammer after all. Might I add that most of the women who I met on TLL and came to visit me while staying in the Nana Hotel I am still friends with and even still intimate friends with a few. I am 40 years old as well.

[QUOTE=Margaya; 1346705]GS.

I checked out both grace and rajah but did not like the setting that much. Its kinda awkward to sit in spacious place and gawk around like an idiot!

Does anyone know if one has to use the girls room for ST or you need ro rent one? Or can one take them out.[/QUOTE]The answer is in the report you referred to:

[quote]Rajah hotel on Soi 4 may cost BHT 2500. [b] [red]Quality is reasonable but you have to use their room in the hotel.[/red] [/b][/quote]