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[QUOTE=Trainman]Thanks everyone for your feedback.

Betomty, my email is [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]. i'd love to hear from you.

I shall be booking flights this week.

Be great to get a few girls and have a party somewhere, anyone up for that

Trainman

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Can anyone tell me if they have smoking rooms at the sheraton, if not can anyone let me know a good girl friendly hotel to stay at with smoking rooms.

My tickets are booked and I arrive in Monterrey on the 28th or 29th as I shall stay in Mexico City for 1 or 2 days before I come to Moneterrey.

If anyone wants to meet up and go out for some fun, pm me, I have now joined.

Many thanks to all

TM

There are three tiers of clubs to select from...

"KNOW YOURSELF..." That is the first step when making selections as to which of the three tiers is most likely to appeal to you, and it will help you determine where you're going to spend your time. I recommend you plan it out first, before you ever get to Monterrey.

Knowing what you like in advance will maximize your play time, and minimize your running all over town to actually find what you like. A lot of time is sometimes spent running all over, from bar to bar, looking for your own brand of perfection, when in reality, if you know your own criteria intimately, you're more likely to be spending time sitting in the bars versus sitting in the taxis. Sometimes the running around is unavoidable, and sometimes running all over to get as much a taste of the different environments can be fun, for some, myself included. But, for some, they prefer to cut right to the chase, get on with it, and not spend so much time sampling. I am personally a sampler. I am known to literally stick my head in a bar, turn my head left and right, make snap judgments about the environment, the selection, etc...and if things do not feel right, I move on to the next, sometimes visiting as many as ten bars in one night. But, I do so rapidly, making very quick judgements, spending sometimes less than 60 seconds making my assessment, getting a feel for the vibe of the bar, then moving on if my intuition isn't peaked.

But, if you're more interested in cutting right to the chase, and do not want the work of running all over the place to find perfection, then you might want to choose from the list of bars we recommended, and stick to the plan.

First, the bars are all "safe," in that you need not worry about your safety as a general rule, one level compared to the other. I mean, my farm is safe too, but you might get kicked in a head by a horse, bitten by a snake, chased by a chicken, stung by a bumble bee, or step in a cow pie, etc... So, safety is relative, verdad? Life is dangerous...but, the bars aren't any more dangerous than what can occur in other places that appear to be safe. And, lets face it, the bars are safer than if you booked a room at the Holiday Inn in El Centro, verdad?

The lower level, working class bars are raucous, very filthy, very uncomfortable to relax, but cheaper. Girl quality is the same to slightly lesser quality than most medium level bars, except for El Infinito, which in my opinion can hold it's own compared to any of the high end expensive bars in town, maybe even superior at times. Money is earned from privados rather than drinks. So, many girls that earn in that way are not as charming as girls earning from the sale of drinks...theoretically. There are exceptions...

And, whether charm is really a valid criteria for guys that do not speak much Spanish...well, maybe it isn't so important. However, even when my Spanish was quite limited, it always amazed me how some girls were more charming than others. And, for some guys, it's all about looks, and very little about personality and charm. Personally, I prefer a girl with a certain demeanor versus a Diva with little or no personality, which is characteristic of many a Diva indeed. So, for me, knowing my own self as I do, I am often more satisfied with a girl that may not be a Diva, but is cute, charming, etc...

I am often accused by Monterreydude of having criteria that are too high with respect to looks, but that is a false accusation. I am not that particular, except I like them YOUNG (usually 22-28), thin, short, usually dark skinned, usually dark hair, and at a minimum they must at least be "cute." But, sometimes the ones I select based on appearance, if they are virtually boring, or at times when some of them do open their mouths but have no personality, they drop ten points automatically. So, the whole package needs to be there for me, and that's why I am sometimes deemed "particular" by Monterreydude.

The medium level bars are not quite as raucous, much more comfortable to relax with a girl, talk to her, play around a little with her on your lap, etc...not as filthy, and slightly more expensive. The girls will possess a better quality of personality, and they will be more charming with you than the typical lower end working class bar.

Frankly, the expensive bars, other than to attend Prestige for lunch, I do not visit them. But, what time I have spent in them over the last ten years, they do not impress me, not in the least compared the quality of selection I can get in the medium and lower level bars. The high end bars are much cleaner, more comfortable than the medium level bars, in that the facilities are in newer and better condition, they are glitzier, sometimes more GRINGO-IZED with respect to music played, sometimes having a higher percentage of girls that speak English, etc...But, they are a much more expensive cost for drinks and services, and the girl quality is not proportionally better than El Infinito, IMHO. However, the girls are required to sell very high priced drinks, and logically, they should possess good personalities to do so. However, I must admit, I am often totally and completely blown away at how often girls in the high end bars lack personality. There is the occasional exception, but I've usually been disappointed at the cost as it relates to any additional benefit to the higher end bars.

My favorite bars are as follows. When I want to relax, I go to the Medium Level Bars. When I want to take a girl out, I find them in the Lower End Working Class Bars.

Low End: El Infinito, Givenchy, El Cielo, Beibis, Tango, Parthenon (when open).
Medium Level: Azul Tequilla, Pasarelas, Casino, Harem, Bahamas, Woman's

And, much of my time these days is occupied with a GF, and I have spent less and less time in the bars over the last five years. So, I personally feel that I need to visit some more lower and medium level bars to see if things may have changed for the better in others of them, and whether I am missing something. I kind of feel that I could be in sort of a funk with respect to "predictability" at the bars I routinely visit.

The sampling above is the tip of the iceberg in Monterrey, and I really need to visit a wider range of bars, especially the medium level ones, to see if there might be some other ones that are escaping my radar due to laziness, and because going to the familiar has just become routine and convenient. And, besides, these bars all change almost on a daily and weekly basis, and visiting one today doesn't mean it will be good tomorrow, according to my criteria. I suspect there are so many frontiers to be explored, bars where I am missing out on so many new girls. I just haven't had the initiative lately, and a GF to fill my time doesn't help my energy level. And, there are many times when I'm satiated, not really caring if I see girls or not. I have one available to me all the time, and I've become somewhat reluctant to throw the money away on trying to scratch a place that doesn't itch.

Monterrydude has a fantastic map that reveals the locations of each of the bars of any consequence in the city, and the map is good to copy so you have something to show taxi drivers. The map can be obtained by private message request to Monterreydude. It will be your most valuable resource, so make sure you get it, keep it with you, etc...After ten years of coming to Monterrey, I still keep a copy in my briefcase. I never have to use it at this juncture, but it's there if I need it, or want to venture out to brave new worlds of something.

I know myself...do you??? And, I mean that generally speaking, addressing the typicaly reader...Get that part out of the way first, and your short time in Monterrey will be more satisfying. Because, you have little time to waste like we do, those of us that live in Monterrey, or visit with such frequency that we're working an ongoing program, meeting girls and continuing relationships with them over time.

I literally have no less than nine amigas that know me well, and they are all available. Most of you that visit will not have that luxury. Your time spent will seem excruciatingly short. You do not have the luxury to test out theories like we do. Therefore, you must make the effort to know yourself in advance, stick to your plan of action, and execute it. I believe that's going to be your best bet for maximizing your experience in Monterrey.

[QUOTE=Trainman]Thanks everyone for your feedback.

Betomty, my email is [blue][Email address deleted by Admin][/blue]. i'd love to hear from you.

I shall be booking flights this week.

Be great to get a few girls and have a party somewhere, anyone up for that

Trainman

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I received a PM from a gentleman looking for some advice with respect to recommendations for an MP or escort situation. The gentleman describes himself as shy, and not great with the Spanish language. The gentleman knows that I frequent the strip clubs, but he says that such an environment is a little intimidating, and that it may not be his kind of scene, he believing that with his particular reservations, the strip club environment may not be comfortable for him.

I am posting some of my recommendations to him here in the forum, the blind leading the blind. But, some of you may be able to post your replies here, and he can follow some better informed recommendations than mine. It is true that I frequent the strip clubs, but I totally and completely respect those that prefer the other venues.

Here is my partial reply to him:

"About three years ago, I did a world wind tour of the MPs in a taxi for several hours, just trying to scope them out, and put them in some kind of pecking order in case I wanted a distraction. The ones below are the ones that seemed the best to me at that time. But, they change almost daily.

Marcella
Misses
Romanos (Owned by Misses)
Verssace
Signore
Virgo
Playboy (1,2,3,4)
Faraonas (1,2)
Shampoo

Were I you, I would grab a taxi driver, and do a lot of looking around for a couple of hours just to see what's good that day. It can be very iffy. I'm sure you may already know this, but El Sol newspaper, in the Oxxo Stores, which are like grains of sand around the city, has an extensive listing of MPs, escorts, and out call girls. I think El Sol comes out on Wednesday if I'm not mistaken. There will be many ads in El Sol for all kinds of services, MPs, etc...I would use it for the addresses, and take it with me in a taxi.

I know of an English speaking driver that I used on one occasion. His name is Sr. XXXX, and he will not probably remember me because it's been a while since I used him. But, he spoke pretty good English, he seemed reliable, his taxi was clean and presentable, air conditioned, and he can get you were you need to go with the least amount of language barrier.

I haven't called Sr. XXXX lately because I really don't necessarily need an English speaking driver, and I use my own drivers for business, using them strictly for business, and I don't mix my night time activities in their presence, if you know what I mean. SR. XXXX's number is XXXXXXXXXX.

I would hook up with him were I you, tell him what you want to do. I'm sure he will be able to help you, and the language barrier will be less of an issue if you have a taxi driver you can call that speaks the English language.

When I used a taxi to scope out the masage parlors, it only cost me about 200 pesos (less than $20 US for several hours). I don't know what SR. XXXX will charge, but you can work it out with him. When I use a driver for business, it usually costs me around $100 pesos per hour, more or less, a little less than $10 US per hour. They will stick with you as long as you want them, and if you get their number for future days, they'll be quite eager to have a steady customer for a few hours each day. Hope this helps! Good Luck! USB"

I sent him a PM too.
Recomended to him both Extravagance and Versace.

First cause they are more or less of the same class and no more than a block and half from each other in the downtown area.
For a better referece to USB that knows his way around Monterrey, Extravagance is 2 blocks down one of the streets that borders Pasarelas MC,


[QUOTE=UnospongeBob]I received a PM from a gentleman looking for some advice with respect to recommendations for an MP or escort situation. The gentleman describes himself as shy, and not great with the Spanish language. The gentleman knows that I frequent the strip clubs, but he says that such an environment is a little intimidating, and that it may not be his kind of scene, he believing that with his particular reservations, the strip club environment may not be comfortable for him.

I am posting some of my recommendations to him here in the forum, the blind leading the blind. But, some of you may be able to post your replies here, and he can follow some better informed recommendations than mine. It is true that I frequent the strip clubs, but I totally and completely respect those that prefer the other venues.

Here is my partial reply to him:

"About three years ago, I did a world wind tour of the MPs in a taxi for several hours, just trying to scope them out, and put them in some kind of pecking order in case I wanted a distraction. The ones below are the ones that seemed the best to me at that time. But, they change almost daily.

Marcella
Misses
Romanos (Owned by Misses)
Verssace
Signore
Virgo
Playboy (1,2,3,4)
Faraonas (1,2)
Shampoo

Were I you, I would grab a taxi driver, and do a lot of looking around for a couple of hours just to see what's good that day. It can be very iffy. I'm sure you may already know this, but El Sol newspaper, in the Oxxo Stores, which are like grains of sand around the city, has an extensive listing of MPs, escorts, and out call girls. I think El Sol comes out on Wednesday if I'm not mistaken. There will be many ads in El Sol for all kinds of services, MPs, etc...I would use it for the addresses, and take it with me in a taxi.

I know of an English speaking driver that I used on one occasion. His name is Sr. XXXX, and he will not probably remember me because it's been a while since I used him. But, he spoke pretty good English, he seemed reliable, his taxi was clean and presentable, air conditioned, and he can get you were you need to go with the least amount of language barrier.

I haven't called Sr. XXXX lately because I really don't necessarily need an English speaking driver, and I use my own drivers for business, using them strictly for business, and I don't mix my night time activities in their presence, if you know what I mean. SR. XXXX's number is XXXXXXXXXX.

I would hook up with him were I you, tell him what you want to do. I'm sure he will be able to help you, and the language barrier will be less of an issue if you have a taxi driver you can call that speaks the English language.

When I used a taxi to scope out the masage parlors, it only cost me about 200 pesos (less than $20 US for several hours). I don't know what SR. XXXX will charge, but you can work it out with him. When I use a driver for business, it usually costs me around $100 pesos per hour, more or less, a little less than $10 US per hour. They will stick with you as long as you want them, and if you get their number for future days, they'll be quite eager to have a steady customer for a few hours each day. Hope this helps! Good Luck! USB"[/QUOTE]

i collected a bunch of business cards from the mps i visited a few years ago that i believed had potential at the time...but, the mps can fluctuate wildly, so who knows if they are still any good now. and, some may have closed or moved. but, here goes...

romanos, tapia 862 ote, arista and tapia
misses, tapia 654, ryan and pino suarez
signore villagomez, 828 nte. entre carlos salazar and arteaga.
playboy 1, tapia 353, pte. on the corner of jimenez and tapia.
playboy 2, arteaga 1015 pte.
playboy 3, isaac garza 421 pte.
playboy 4, villagran, no. 641
verssace, carlos salazar 615 ote.
virgo, madero no 846 ote., arista and dr. coss, above secrets mc
shampoo, colon #1162 at the corner of zaragoza

as for hotel accommodations, i have been scoping out one for a few years that may have some potential. i can not entirely vouch for this hotel, but it's not too far from villagran and carlos salazar. therefore, it's close to the gauntlet where there are numerous mps, el infinito, el cielo, beibis, tengo, givenchy, etc...all within about three blocks walking distance from the hotel.

at that time, the hotel was named hotel le-gar, but i believe it may have changed hands since i checked it out, and i don't remember the new name if in fact it has changed names. the hotel is on the same block as carlos salazar, located about 1 block to the west of pino suarez street and only 1 block to the south of arteaga. it is literally only 5 blocks from the bus station on colon. so, it's really well situated for walking to your entertainment areas, should you want to do so, and you should have no problems finding taxis if you want a little added security.

i did check out the rooms a few years ago, and it seemed like it was a little worn with respect to furniture, etc...the rooms seemed pretty spacious however. based on the brochure i picked up at the time, and just now, after looking at their photographs of the rooms in the brochure, i recollect a pretty decent sized room. and, with respect to being slightly worn, it has apparently since been renovated since i visited the rooms. it is pretty centrally located for fun. plus, it fits that criteria i mentioned a few posts ago, mexican owned, mexican patrons, obscure location, not a national chain, etc...the likelihood that you would be noticed with respect to being targeted for criminal activity is pretty slim.

i seem to remember some banner hanging out in front a few weeks ago that indicated that it was re-opening with new management or something. and, i seem to recall that the color of the building had changed, and that it was more attractive than before. i just seem to recall that the building looked much more inviting when i saw it a few weeks ago compared to before. from the street, it actually looks like it could be a decent place to stay. the cost of rooms at that time was 503 pesos for a double, and 462 pesos for a single. they also had a continental breakfast in the morning.

you can actually still google it by that name, hotel le-gar, and it comes up, $33.00us per night...not bad. and, on the website, it says it was last updated march 25, 2010. so, that's consistent with their having banners outside announcing some changes, and also with my seeming to recall a change to the outside appearance of the building.

and, it just seems to me that if one is discrete, you could probably sneak a girl in there. but, i have never tried it. it's just that it meets the criteria i mentioned in a prior post, and it's location is superb. i have walked those same streets between the bars where that hotel is located, between carlos salazar and villagran, where the gauntlet of bars and mps are, to el cielo and beibis, which are very close to the hotel, and i've done so quite often until 3am in the past.

now, the other interesting thing about this area is that there are several other, relatively cheap hotels that are in this same area, all within walking distance. they all fit my criteria, mexican owned, mexican patrons, obscure, etc...and some of them border on being, or definitely are, "no tell" hotels. so, this particular area offers some options that warrant checking out with respect to decent alternative accommodations. i just haven't had that need so i haven't gone so far as to book rooms in this area.

however, the interesting thing here is that even if you were denied access with your girl to hotel le-gar, there are enough "no tell," 100 peso per hour hotels situated in very close proximity to hotel le-gar that you could go to one of them if need be, and be relatively on schedule with respect to time wasted trying to unsuccessfully get them in to hotel le-gar were it to go badly that way. or, in many instances, a lot of guys don't really want to bring the girl back to their own room. this hotel is located so close to all the action, and to the alternative "no tell" hotel rooms, that it would be very convenient for shifting to a plan b if need be.

down in this same area, i have never had an issue, or noticed anything that made me concerned for my safety walking those streets. but, things are changing, and down in that area, you might want to take taxis late at night if possible. i wouldn't say that i would never walk around down there at night, because i do. but, it just a precaution, a word to the wiser of us that you might not want to walk around down there after dark these days. besides, down in that area, the taxis are abundant, making the location superb for catching a taxi.

cut and pasted from the hotel website:
rooms:
45 standard and 3 suites
(it would be interesting to see what the suites look like. according to the website, they have jacuzzis too. who knows, maybe they have some suites with jacuzzis in the rooms.
address: rayon no. 752 nte., centro, 64000 monterrey, nuevo leon
ph: +52 (81) 8374-4860
[url]www.hotelle-gar.com[/url]

location:in the center of monterrey, just 5 minutes from cintermex, macroplaza and paseo santa lucia.
rooms: newly remodeled, spacious, fully carpeted, cable tv, wireless internet, air conditioning and telephone.
services:free continental breakfast, free local calls, high speed internet, parking, meeting rooms, safe, restaurant, room service, laundry and dry.

so, some of you intending to come down might want to give this hotel a try, and give us a review of the hotel's accommodations, and whether you can sneak girls in, etc...

now, don't get angry with me if you end up staying there and you can't get your girl in there. it's hit and miss until you try these places out. every one of us has to go through this process. with them being a recently upgraded facility, they may be really proud of themselves for a while, and they may be reluctant to let too much go on until the newness wears off. but, definitely, no matter what legitimate hotel you stay at in monterrey, you're going to have to be discrete regardless. but, i also believe there may have been some side entrances to the place, etc...as i said, this place has been on my radar for a long time.

i may, in fact, check it out myself one of these days. at that price, the hotel would be a really good resource, provided the beds are comfortable and the rooms are clean. any other amenities are of little consequence to me. i don't watch television (but, my gf does...a lot!, so that's good they have cable), and their advertising says they have wireless internet, which is a must for my purposes.


[quote=monterreydude]i sent him a pm too.
recomended to him both extravagance and versace.

first cause they are more or less of the same class and no more than a block and half from each other in the downtown area.
for a better referece to usb that knows his way around monterrey, extravagance is 2 blocks down one of the streets that borders pasarelas mc,[/quote]

I wanted to thank Monterreydude and Unspongebob for their suggestions for my recent trip to Monterrey, and for Monterreydude for guiding me around the city. (Especially after a friend who was supposed to meet me failed to show.) It was definitely an education and experience--and a side of Monterrey that I had not seen before.

You're welcome Eisan...I hope you had a good time!

I am curious...Does business or vacation bring you to Monterrey? It sounds like you've visited Monterrey before. How often have you visited in the past? And, are you planning future visits?

I have noticed since the crash of the US economy that there seems to be significantly less activity on the ISG board with respect to Monterrey posts. I don't think it's because guys aren't wanting to participate, but more on account of a lesser number of guys coming to Monterrey on business. And, certainly, due to the poor economy, a less number of guys coming for vacation.

However, lately, it seems like visitors to Monterrey are picking up, and that inquiring posts are starting to occur with a slightly greater frequency than the last 18 months. That could be an indication that the economy is turning the corner.

[QUOTE=Eisan]I wanted to thank Monterreydude and Unspongebob for their suggestions for my recent trip to Monterrey, and for Monterreydude for guiding me around the city. (Especially after a friend who was supposed to meet me failed to show.) It was definitely an education and experience--and a side of Monterrey that I had not seen before.[/QUOTE]

You're welcomed too... next time well get more girls for you at Casino.


[QUOTE=Eisan]I wanted to thank Monterreydude and Unspongebob for their suggestions for my recent trip to Monterrey, and for Monterreydude for guiding me around the city. (Especially after a friend who was supposed to meet me failed to show.) It was definitely an education and experience--and a side of Monterrey that I had not seen before.[/QUOTE]

Hi Good News

I arrive Monterrey 3pm on the 28th May. Shall be staying 3 nights before heading to Monclova for 2 nights, then back to Moneterrey for 2 nights.

Is anyone around that wishes to meet up and go to the clubs or try to get a couple of girls back to the hotel with us for a bit of a swapping party.

Still not sure which hotel to book, have been advised the Sheraton, but like the look also of Holiday Inns, not Holiday Inn express.

Anyone want to meet up and go for a beer and to who knows where.

Carlos, if your still about please contact me, love to take you up on your offer of help.

Trainman

[QUOTE=Unspongebob]I am curious...Does business or vacation bring you to Monterrey? It sounds like you've visited Monterrey before. How often have you visited in the past? And, are you planning future visits?[/QUOTE]I go to Monterrey for vacation. I have lived and traveled abroad and have really enjoyed those experiences; I live in Texas now and don't make so much money, so Monterrey is a good option for me. This last visit was my third or fourth, and as Monterreydude showed me there is still a lot to learn and see there! I will definitely go again--I think later this summer. I want to try Mexico City, too.

I should add that another reason people have curtailed travel there is safety. I work with people who have traveled to Monterrey in the past for business, but they telecommute now. Even when they did travel they were told to stay in the hotel when not working.

I cannot give you my email as you are not a subscriber of this forum.

[QUOTE=Trainman]I cannot give you my email as you are not a subscriber of this forum.[/QUOTE]Trainman, as someone who joined not too long ago, I would highly recommend you join to gain access to messages. With the help you get here it will pay immense dividends.

So if you wish to pm me please do, and we can chat about your visit, as I go to Monterrey next week.

I have tried to PM you BETMOTY but you are either not a member of this forum or have put down you do not wish to receive PM.

I have tried to send you my contact details as I come next week to Mexico.

Trainman