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[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2976873]Although it is possible to find a cute SW on Burgos, the high quality girls are mostly found in only a few of the best Burgos St. Go Go's like the former Plan be' bar now called Kojax and the former Kojax bar now called Lips. Too bad you missed it. The quality is high and you would have seen 1st hand what all the talk is all about. Is it worth the hefty price? Up to you. I like shagging pretty girls.[/QUOTE]Concur. The much better looking girls are in the gogos. There are at least a handful of pretty things in each bar, much better than the SW (and much younger). The little birdie was recently seen cooling his engines in V8 bar. He observed 16 girls in the bar, 3 customers (1 of them a whale), and all of them do-able. Not a fugly in the bunch.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2976873]Nonetheless, there are some very good alternatives in the neighborhood like El Chupacabra. They serve great tacos believe it or not.[/QUOTE]Chupacabra is on Felipe St, between Polaris and Kalayaan. Its a small indoor / outdoor place. Concur its good Mexican food. Try the street tacos. The owner also has a Mexican resto in Glorieta mall up the road, across from Ayala, floor 3 I think. I think its called Mexicali or such. Same menu; try the enchiladas.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2976845]I operate a don't ask don't tell policy when I'm away. Neither she nor I need to ask nor know what we are doing while I'm away but when I'm in town, good times can be had.Many last a long time but it is a constant conveyor belt. G.[/QUOTE]My approach too G.

I've told the regulars upfront, that I know what they get up to when I'm away, and they usually reply with the general denials.

I bump quite a few off when they constantly ask for cash to support feeding the whole family for a kid's birthday which has nothing to do with me.

A lot of them are opportunists, and I can understand that, considering the poverty in most situations.

But I tell them upfront, I'll reward you when I see you.

Sure, the roster becomes a bit thin at times, but there's always others to fill their spots and it always rises again.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;2977084]My approach too G.

I've told the regulars upfront, that I know what they get up to when I'm away, and they usually reply with the general denials.

I bump quite a few off when they constantly ask for cash to support feeding the whole family for a kid's birthday which has nothing to do with me.

A lot of them are opportunists, and I can understand that, considering the poverty in most situations.

But I tell them upfront, I'll reward you when I see you.

Sure, the roster becomes a bit thin at times, but there's always others to fill their spots and it always rises again.

_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Just don't respond at all. 1 week later she will message you. Babe I luv you and can't wait to see you again.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2976646]Agreed. Regulars are the way to go. I had about five. .[/QUOTE]I used to have a good roster of regulars which I could maintain as I was visiting every other month on work trips.

These days I get in country about every 6 months so I don't keep any expectations of seeing these pervious regulars. I just start from scratch on each visit. It's cheaper than 6 months of messaging and some pesos 'help'.

That being said on my last visit I did call up two regulars, one was happy to come again. The other was a few months pregnant which I calculated could not have been mine and she had moved on.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2976873]Although it is possible to find a cute SW on Burgos, the high quality girls are mostly found in only a few of the best Burgos St. Go Go's like the former Plan be' bar now called Kojax and the former Kojax bar now called Lips. Too bad you missed it. The quality is high and you would have seen 1st hand what all the talk is all about. Is it worth the hefty price? Up to you. I like shagging pretty girls.

As to the Filling Station; you did not miss anything. On a culinary level I rate it 2nd rate at best, meaning I was once served a crummy cheeseburger & fries and I went there twice; my 1st and last time. Hell, I would rather eat at the Gyro stand across the street or McDonalds. Nonetheless, there are some very good alternatives in the neighborhood like El Chupacabra. They serve great tacos believe it or not.

Enjoy Thailand.[/QUOTE]Yes I know, I've been inside all the gogo bars few years ago, but I didn't lost my mind to pay 10 K+ for a working girl in the PH, probably the BGs look better than in AC by average, but since I have my own with me, I wasn't desperate.

Everybody talks about beautiful SWs on Burgos, but I did see only a few, and ranging from fat to extremely fat, maybe they were confused, and had mistaken the LBs for girls, because there were lots of them, an good looking, for whoever is into that.

I ate at the Filling Station 2 or 3 years ago, but beside the girls in cute revolutionary costumes, there was nothing worth remembering.

[QUOTE=KumuMan;2977124]Just don't respond at all. 1 week later she will message you. Babe I luv you and can't wait to see you again.[/QUOTE]Hi Kumu,

I don't respond.

Been playing this game for a while now.

I'm just upfront from the outset. I'll look after them generously when I'm in town, but when I'm back home they can try the other guys who are doing their balls over them.

I had a Sabang contact who recently 'accidentally' sent me a screenshot of a Western Union payment she'd received from a Korean guy and asked me if I could send some more cash.

When I declined, the howling, crying emojis came flooding in on WhatsApp.

I don't blame them from trying to make some cash, but it's whole negotiating process.

I don't do bar girls and the rates are a lot cheaper with hot locals, cutting out the LD's, the Mama and the 'Middle Man' ie: bar owner.

So another contact was cut from the list, somewhat reluctantly as she was a great lay, but there's always another one around the corner _ Phil.

Hey guys,

I'd like to ask you when is the best time to visit Philippines / Thailand, related to our favorite activity (mongering). I know the rainy season is the lowest season, does that mean cheaper pussy prices, cheaper accomodations? Easier to find girls that would let you cum inside? (in both countries).

I can only assume the more there's tourists, the more the prices are going up, and harder to find girls that ok to get creampied (mostly in Thai), but in other hand, I can't stop thinking if you go during the rainy season, you might not have a lot of options as they won't go out as much?

Let me know. Thanks.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2977278]Yes I know, I've been inside all the gogo bars few years ago, but I didn't lost my mind to pay 10 K+ for a working girl in the PH, probably the BGs look better than in AC by average, but since I have my own with me, I wasn't desperate.[/QUOTE]The gogo girls in Burgos are better looking than AC (IMO). However you are more likely to get the old fashioned long time on Burgos, as you are holding her approx p5 k tip until she departs. AC girls are iffy. In fact, a question for the AC gents: Since covid, how many of your AC gogo girls completed an evening pop + morning pop? What percent?

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2977278]Everybody talks about beautiful SWs on Burgos, but I did see only a few, and ranging from fat to extremely fat, maybe they were confused, and had mistaken the LBs for girls, because there were lots of them, an good looking, for whoever is into that.[/QUOTE]OA not sure who was saying beautiful SW on Burgos. In all my time here, that's an older group, mostly chubs, a few former gogo girls who got too old for the grind. Quite a number of drug addicts and LB. On the more busy street nights (Wednesday. Saturday), you will see 1-2-3 better looking girls, thin and nicely dressed, often with an older lady / mama, at the point of the red arrow in the pic. Or alternately 1 similar girl where the blue box is in the pic. Solid 7's in anyone's book, usually age 25 or less. There are no 8's walking around Burgos St.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2977278]I ate at the Filling Station 2 or 3 years ago, but beside the girls in cute revolutionary costumes, there was nothing worth remembering.[/QUOTE]Its the same menu as Cubana Cafe next door. Large varied menu, of somewhat better quality than normal pinoy restos, at somewhat inflated prices (high for pinoy; count on p400-800 per meal, + drinks; they accept CC). However I concur that based on what's available in the outside world, its just a Denny's.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2977427]The gogo girls in Burgos are better looking than AC (IMO). However you are more likely to get the old fashioned long time on Burgos, as you are holding her approx p5 k tip until she departs. AC girls are iffy. In fact, a question for the AC gents: Since covid, how many of your AC gogo girls completed an evening pop + morning pop? What percent?

OA not sure who was saying beautiful SW on Burgos. In all my time here, that's an older group, mostly chubs, a few former gogo girls who got too old for the grind. Quite a number of drug addicts and LB. On the more busy street nights (Wednesday. Saturday), you will see 1-2-3 better looking girls, thin and nicely dressed, often with an older lady / mama, at the point of the red arrow in the pic. Or alternately 1 similar girl where the blue box is in the pic. Solid 7's in anyone's book, usually age 25 or less. There are no 8's walking around Burgos St.

Its the same menu as Cubana Cafe next door. Large varied menu, of somewhat better quality than normal pinoy restos, at somewhat inflated prices (high for pinoy; count on p400-800 per meal, + drinks; they accept CC). However I concur that based on what's available in the outside world, its just a Denny's.[/QUOTE]Maybe was Cubana where I ate before, I recall, I was seating outside. This time I ate at the turkish restaurant at the end of the street, was the only place with an available table. I had the mix appetizer plate, and mix grill, was ok for the PH, and I didn't had that kind of food in a long time, last time was in Singapore in the arab quarters, where the quality was net superior. Just got tired of fried, boiled, bbq or grilled tasteless pork, that's all my GF buys. When at home I do upgrade it with spices or garlic, but my GFs will not touch it afterwards.

About the evening / morning action in AC, usually I don't want to keep them overnight, but sometimes very rarely when I do, I just tell them about the tip they will get in the morning (1-2 K), and they always stay and act lovely, still cheaper than BGs in Makati. But if you're already there, then of course that's the way to go: give her the 5 K payment in the morning. I do that with the FLs too, no money upfront.

I'm in Bangkok right now, and it is a culinary delight, even at the stall on the street where we ate at lunch there was gourmet style looking food, and cheap too. We had 2 huge chicken drumsticks covered in some crunchy stuff, 2 fish, one big sausage, 2 egg something, mixed noodle, rice, veggies, and of course some bbq pork for the GF, just in case, all for 180 TBH, about $6. All clean and very presentable. Also I entered 7/11 and I can't believe the variety of foods they have there if you get the late night cravings.

Later we will go to a massage, then to Nana Plaza.

This is one girl to definitely avoid. She advertises on Pina Love and on Smooci. She goes by many different names, but has a set of angel wings tattooed on her chest.

She is around 30, not 23. Look at how low her Smooci rating is. I got her off PL and she convinced me her low score was due to a couple of angry Arabs. Her attitude stinks and paid her some "fuck off" money to get rid of her. Unless a Smooci girl has a rating of 4. 8 or above, just avoid.

Before I get lectured on breaching privacy blah, blah, blah, I got the image from the freely accessible Smooci site. If you have a problem, you can complain to Newsome.

Finally found time to write a report of my November / December trip. I spent a month in Manila, but 3 of those weeks were in Makati and based just off Burgos Street. I had a few experiences of the RLD.

My first experience of Gogo Bars on this trip was in fact thanks to my partner. We had been sitting in a Mexican bar on Burgos Street (opposite corner to Filling Station). We was in that bar for a number of hours, beyond 10 pm. She had quite a bit to drink, but during that time she was insisting that we check out what is through the black door (Dimples) on the building opposite. When we finished in the Mexican bar, my partner led the way and we went through that black door followed by a black curtain. Dimples seemed like a small Gogo bar, but had a lot of bikini-clad women (25 minimum) waiting for men. We did not stay in there for long. A woman came up to me and seemed to take offence when I asked if she was the mamasan, to which she replied "no, I'm the waitress", we soon left. I saw no men in there, but this bar felt like sardines in a can, a bit tight for space. My partner said she saw a few indian men in there, but I think I was the only guy there.

Another night I went alone into a different Gogo Bar, Iron Horse Saloon. Located opposite Makati Palace Hotel. Adhering to caution, I dodged alcohol and just drank only coke. Within a few steps of walking into the bar, the immediate attention of women became apparent and I made my way to where I wanted to be seated. There was just one other guy in there. He was getting his shoulders massaged but didn't look like he really wanted the massage. I sat down and one woman who followed me in said she was the mamasan. I wasn't entirely sure, but she seemed friendly so I made a request for the type of lady I wanted (young and skinny) and pointed out I only wanted one. Just before that I had to politely decline a few overweight women who initially came and sat beside me. She pulled a skinny lady off stage and I accepted her. She sat beside me, I bought drinks for the skinny lady and the nice lady who was saying she was the mamasan. This mamasan informed me that the skinny lady was 27 and had only been at the bar for a few days. To begin with I thought "hmmmm, sounds like a nice line being fed to me", but within 5 minutes, I suspected she was telling the truth. The mamasan had to lead the skinny lady on what to do initially, and to be honest I was more into the mamasan, but she was busy directing the play. I then realised there was a mature woman in a brown outfit watching from the opposite side of the bar. I suspect she was making signals and was the real mamasan.

After 15 to 20 minutes had passed, the lady proclaiming to be the mamasan decided to take it upon herself to introduce a new lady. Not skinny, but was meant to be 19, and looked ok. At this point I had a woman either side of me, taking turns to grind, and the first lady proclaiming to be the mamasan in front of me. I decided to go in for the kill and take one to the private area. The use of this area cost 4. 5 K, and then lady tip which was 5 K. I had wanted to take both ladies with me, but this was not allowed. Before heading to the private area, I asked to clear the drinks bill first. I bought three rounds of ladies drinks and I knew roughly the amount I had to pay. The bill they gave me was correct in my mind. Once in the private area, the skinny lady was sent away to prepare, the mamasan gave me something like 5 of 6 shots of alcohol. Initially I rejected the drinks as I thought I was about to get tricked, but she assured me the drinks were free. I did not consume the alcohol and shortly after those were placed on a table, skinny lady came in to entertain.

Once done, I thanked skinny lady for her time, left the drinks on the table and made a direct line for the exit. The lady who said she was the mamasan demanded a tip as I passed her. I laughed at that initially, but then thought "to be fair, she was very entertaining and did help with the experience". After I tipped her, I headed to the exit. The same lady stops me and introduces me to the doorman standing near the exit. I shake his hand and then realise what was coming next. The man says "I was your personal bodyguard tonight", to which I smiled and said "I never saw you". I knew what he wanted, and I know I should not do this, but I recall giving him 100-200 php to leave me be. As I pass through the exit, the other fellas wanted money "hey sir! As I walked away one was following me down the street for a brief moment until I got near Burgos Street.

A week later I head out to go into Ringside Bar, but to no avail. I arrive too early, so the doorman invites me into Bottoms. I decide to go inside as I recall Bottoms was meant to be a popular bar before 2020. I enter Bottoms, and appreciate 7. 30 pm (ish) is probably a bit early for a Gogo bar, but I'm in there now and I buy a drink of coke. The few ladies on stage are standing still bored, the ladies sitting down seemed to have been caught by surprise. They slowly get off their seat and straight away this feels like a regret already. I pick the first half-decent lady that comes into my line of sight and she sits down with me. I buy her one drink and we talk briefly. A couple of ladies ask if I want my shoulders massaged. Recalling the customer from Iron Horse Saloon, I reply "no thanks". The three ladies on stage are still not dancing at this point. Bottoms was not what I expected. Looked like it could be a fun place, but on the inside there was no life, perhaps it was too early. I asked who the mamasan was, and she comes over. I discuss the BF and tips arrangement. Again, I end up liking the mamasan more that the woman I had chosen. There was something about that mamasan that made me want BF her instead. I give her 500 php, as I thought I'd try and find her again another night if I get the opportunity and perhaps sit down with her. I wouldn't get that opportunity.

The BF was about 3. 8 K to 4 k (I forget) and I gave the lady 5 K. On this I should have negotiated it down, but I decided to play along. The lady seemed nice in general, but I later realise at the ST hotel nearby, everything about her was pulled in tight. I decide not to keep her with me and let her go within an hour. The ST hotel we were at was fine but a bit expensive for the limited time we used it for.

Iron Horse Saloon can be considered a one-stop shop. Next time it will be my final destination of choice. Just accept blatent shakedowns are likely, not sure if this is common in many Gogo bars.

Bottoms is the opposite. It could be a place to stop off at along the street, but not one to spend considerable amount of time in and I'm pretty sure better options are available. I also got the impression, from the lady I took to the ST hotel, that Bottoms is rarely busy. That said, the mamasan said it was usually busy around midnight. Take that as you will.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2976926]Concur. The much better looking girls are in the gogos. There are at least a handful of pretty things in each bar, much better than the SW (and much younger). The little birdie was recently seen cooling his engines in V8 bar. He observed 16 girls in the bar, 3 customers (1 of them a whale), and all of them do-able. Not a fugly in the bunch.
[/QUOTE]V-8 has been one of the top P Burgos bars for the last two years imo. Here's a pic of a quartet of V-8 girls including my fav in the middle.

[QUOTE=Docwiltro;2979297]V-8 has been one of the top P Burgos bars for the last two years imo. Here's a pic of a quartet of V-8 girls including my fav in the middle.[/QUOTE]Concur. Fewer girls than Dimples, Maison, or Lips. Typically 15-25 girls on duty, but probably the highest percentage of guapas.

One good pic deserves another. Enjoy the big smoke when you're in town. Get a small one and shake it up good. Don't be afraid to take two, so one can take pics / vids while your hands are busy with the other.

Little birdie update: Fyre and Neon Nights remain closed.

S Bom: Good report.

[QUOTE=SenhorBom;2978913]............................

Once done, I thanked skinny lady for her time, left the drinks on the table and made a direct line for the exit. The lady who said she was the mamasan demanded a tip as I passed her. I laughed at that initially, but then thought "to be fair, she was very entertaining and did help with the experience". After I tipped her, I headed to the exit. The same lady stops me and introduces me to the doorman standing near the exit. I shake his hand and then realise what was coming next. The man says "I was your personal bodyguard tonight", to which I smiled and said "I never saw you". I knew what he wanted, and I know I should not do this, but I recall giving him 100-200 php to leave me be. As I pass through the exit, the other fellas wanted money "hey sir! As I walked away one was following me down the street for a brief moment until I got near Burgos Street.

A week later I head out to go into Ringside Bar, but to no avail. I arrive too early, so the doorman invites me into Bottoms. I decide to go inside as I recall Bottoms was meant to be a popular bar before 2020. I enter Bottoms, and appreciate 7. 30 pm (ish) is probably a bit early for a Gogo bar, but I'm in there now and I buy a drink of coke. The few ladies on stage are standing still bored, the ladies sitting down seemed to have been caught by surprise. They slowly get off their seat and straight away this feels like a regret already. I pick the first half-decent lady that comes into my line of sight and she sits down with me. I buy her one drink and we talk briefly. A couple of ladies ask if I want my shoulders massaged. Recalling the customer from Iron Horse Saloon, I reply "no thanks". The three ladies on stage are still not dancing at this point. Bottoms was not what I expected. Looked like it could be a fun place, but on the inside there was no life, perhaps it was too early. I asked who the mamasan was, and she comes over. I discuss the BF and tips arrangement. Again, I end up liking the mamasan more that the woman I had chosen. There was something about that mamasan that made me want BF her instead. I give her 500 php, as I thought I'd try and find her again another night if I get the opportunity and perhaps sit down with her. I wouldn't get that opportunity.

The BF was about 3. 8 K to 4 k (I forget) and I gave the lady 5 K. On this I should have negotiated it down, but I decided to play along. The lady seemed nice in general, but I later realise at the ST hotel nearby, everything about her was pulled in tight. I decide not to keep her with me and let her go within an hour. The ST hotel we were at was fine but a bit expensive for the limited time we used it for.

Iron Horse Saloon can be considered a one-stop shop. Next time it will be my final destination of choice. Just accept blatent shakedowns are likely, not sure if this is common in many Gogo bars.

Bottoms is the opposite. It could be a place to stop off at along the street, but not one to spend considerable amount of time in and I'm pretty sure better options are available. I also got the impression, from the lady I took to the ST hotel, that Bottoms is rarely busy. That said, the mamasan said it was usually busy around midnight. Take that as you will.[/QUOTE]This is why I avoid Manila like the plaque, unless I'm there forced by circumstances, same felling like south of the border. For me AC is the choice, everything is straight forward (as much as it can be).

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;2979573]This is why I avoid Manila like the plaque, unless I'm there forced by circumstances, same felling like south of the border. [/QUOTE]On occasion I find a gem in the big city worth keeping.