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[QUOTE=Huacho;3060834]I must have missed the line on the Form 1040 where taxpayers identify by political party, most likely because there isn't one. So must throw the bullshit card.[/QUOTE]Socialists make up bullshit every day. And they can even find a socialist media source for their bullshit. Just look at the posts on this thread.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3060767]Would love to dissect whatever is going on in your head, dude.
No, the irrationality and the AIPAC lobbying are two different phenomena. The US's Govt lapdog sycophancy to its master Israel because of AIPAC and similar is not at all irrational. It's perfectly rational: Of course if your master gives you money, you do it's bidding. It's reprehensible, corrosive to democracy, utterly bad for America but it's perfectly rational.[/QUOTE]Now you call me crazy but Trump is rational? LOL. You are the one not being rational.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3060767]The irrationality was referencing the fact that despite this successive Presidents have been able to hold off going to war on Iran for Israel because the quid pro quo they give to Israel (money, arms, changing US laws even) was deemed sufficient and going to war for them on Iran was a step too far.[/QUOTE]Saying things always stay the same is more of your being irrational.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3060767]Even the walking dead Biden was able to say "no" to Israel.[/QUOTE]Nope, when Israel slaughtered those in Gaza Biden did no lift a finger. He gave Israel the weapons to do it.
[QUOTE=HotDog666;3060767]But this fucking idiot falls hook, line and sinker for Netanyahu's BS. There was no upside, none, for America, and multiple downsides. No rational person would have ever followed through on this. Even his own team were cool on this. This delusional fool got suckered by the Israelis that it would be over in 3 days.
It was a stupid, irrational and fucked up thing to do, and yet like I said you have deranged people like you who will still find method in his madness. There is no method, only madness.
Let's just hope and pray that this weekend's talks end in fruition, because it's causing pain to Americans, but it's causing far, far more pain to the ROW, such as the Indian who loses his job and has to move back to the village; such as the African who may starve if the fertilizers don't come through; such as. Not that you care at all about any of this suffering.[/QUOTE]I just posted the explanation as to what has changed and how much uranium Iran had. Iran has missiles that have reached Turkey and were sent to hit Diego Garcia far from Iran. It is just a matter of time before they had ones capable of hitting the USA. As for your cheap shot about suffering, I could say the same about you; you do not care if Iran has the bomb and the missiles to hit the USA.
To be clear, Trump has been impulsive on foreign policy with regards to tariffs and the visa situation. I thought some of the tariffs were a good idea but he way overplayed his hand with them.
In fact, I think Trump's sales job on the war has been very poor. He has opened the door to criticism as he is not sold well why we need to be at war.
I was just hoping that Trump was not irrational for going to war, and I am not sure that he has been. I was cynical like you, but I read and quoted the piece by Seymour Hersh, and he has the best government sources of anyone I have seen.
He wrote a piece on Biden blowing up Nordstream that IMO was flawless. He reported we were going to bomb Iran before we did and now he is reporting that the USA will have boots on the ground in Iran and the reason for it. If you are a dumb Dem, the tired response is to bash anyone saying anything you do not like. The truth is that I quoted only Hersh's sources and not his opinion of Trump. He criticized Trump quite harshly in the same article I quoted from.
And just because I list why Trump is doing what he is doing does not mean I agree with it. You can be rational and still be wrong. If the talks break down and Trump sends in troops and they do not find the uranium and get slaughtered, then I will have no problem saying that he made the wrong decision. The problem with you dumb Dems is even when Trump has a successful mission like he did with Venezuela and Maduro, you all keep calling him crazy which means you all are the irrational ones.
[QUOTE=FutureDeadGuy;3060862]You're misguided. Biden's peak for the CPI increase occurred in June 2022 at 9.1%, not 10%. Inflation at the end of his presidency dropped all the way down to 2.9%. Trump's initial number was one in decline, not one in the middle of a wreck.
The present number under Trump stands at 3.3% from March 2026, marking the highest rate since May 2024 thanks to the Iran war and tariff actions. The gas prices have crossed $4 per gallon, and it looks like the train that Trump supposedly stopped is accelerating once again.
Stopping a wrecking train is one thing, but being its driver is something else entirely.[/QUOTE]Biden inflation was 22.1% over 4 years causing the higher costs. Trump first year 2.7% and it is only 3% short term and year will stabilize at around 2.7%. This would make Trump inflation 10-11% for his 4 years of it holds but once Biden regulations are all removed prices will start coming down. Oil prices are short term so it will go back down to 2. 7 or less. There will never be another train wreck like Biden created. Trudeau did the same thing in Canada. Both will be known as worse leaders in Canada and USA history.
[QUOTE=Canada;3060867]Socialists make up bullshit every day. And they can even find a socialist media source for their bullshit. Just look at the posts on this thread.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you must not be well read. Anything that disagrees with whatever faux news told you to believe is socialist? You seem to be missing any data other than whatever you've convinced yourself of.
Just look at your posts on this thread.
[QUOTE=Canada;3060867]Socialists make up bullshit every day. And they can even find a socialist media source for their bullshit. Just look at the posts on this thread.[/QUOTE]On the other hand, you and the MAGAs in America make up bullshit by the hour and can't even find a media source to back it up.
Your litany of made up bullshit Biden failures and made up bullshit Trump accomplishments is hilarious. Really. You cite many of the MAGA Hit Parade of Easily Debunked Lies even faster than some of the long-term MAGA busllshiters in the USA that promote the bullshit and might actually think "Republicans handle the economy better than Democrats" contrary to all available evidence and data going back at least 100 years of Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Recessions and Great Repub Massive Jobs Destruction.
Hey, remember when Dear Leader Trump scored 18 holes-in-one on one of his own failing golf courses? That's what it said on the scorecard he scribbled out himself at least. Must be true.
Did you see Melania cough up a baby rib bone during her "I didn't participate, I just watched" recent press conference? The whole world saw it! Swear to god!
I think the press corp thought she was finally showing up to make good on her Record High Lying husband's promise that she would explain the timeline on her arrival in the USA and starting to working vs her status as an immigrant to legally work "in about two weeks" that he made, oh, 10 years ago. LOL.
[QUOTE=Huacho;3060834]I must have missed the line on the Form 1040 where taxpayers identify by political party, most likely because there isn't one. So must throw the bullshit card.[/QUOTE]Democrat
[QUOTE=Canada;3060867]Exactly.[/QUOTE]Canadian Liberal aka Trudeau lover. Unless you're saying Huacho is a socialist in which case I take that back.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3060844]Just because your kiddie-diddling hero Larry Summers favored his Trump / Epstein Cult friends with that horseshit about Biden causing inflation shouldn't mean a well-informed person ought to fall for it.
Please explain how Biden "engineered" double digit inflation in over half the world's economies during and in the aftermath of Trump's Pandemic while still keeping the USA inflation rate no higher than 9. 1% for only 2-3 months in 2022 while also producing one of if not THE best and strongest recovery from it on Earth.
[B]In the U.S. and around the world, inflation is high and getting higher.
June 15, 2022[/B]
[URL]https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/06/15/in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world-inflation-is-high-and-getting-higher/[/URL]
[B]The US recovery from COVID-19 in international comparison.
Oct. 17, 2024[/B]
[URL]https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-us-recovery-from-covid-19-in-international-comparison/[/URL]
[B]Mapped: Cumulative Global Inflation by Country (2020-2025)
Sept. 29, 2025[/B]
[URL]https://www.visualcapitalist.com/global-inflation-by-country-2020-2025/[/URL]
You cannot possibly claim to know anything whatsoever about the Real World Economy while still hanging onto that Repub MAGA bullshit about how Joe Biden "engineered" the inflation suffered around the globe as the result of the worldwide economic disaster of Trump's Pandemic.
Next you'll be telling us Joe Biden made the price of eggs skyrocket, nevermind the Avian Flu epidemic, but then the hens had a meeting and decided to celebrate the razor-thin squeaker of an election win for Donald Trump by laying cheaper eggs.[/QUOTE]
Democratic Party True Believer and Polemicist
Do you really want to argue this again? Excessive stimulus spending engineered by Biden and other Democrats ignited inflation first in the USA, and later in other countries as demand from the USA drove up the prices of commodities and imported manufactured goods and stretched supply chains. Yes, Democrat former Treasury Secretary and Chairman of the NEC Larry Summers agrees with me. So does Democrat economist Jason Furman.
And yeah other factors contributed, like COVID related factory closures and the Ukrainian war. But your party kicked the whole mess off.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3060889]Democrat
Canadian Liberal aka Trudeau lover. Unless you're saying Huacho is a socialist in which case I take that back..[/QUOTE]There would have been no reason for the global manufacturers and supply-chains to fire up and start manufacturing and shipping products anywhere until the biggest national customer on the planet had money in its pocket to start ordering products again after Trump's disastrous decisions in 2019 ushered in his Pandemic and crashed them.
In that way Biden's and the Dems' (and momentarily Trump's because the Dems insisted on it, but especially Biden / Dems' steady follow up legislation) stimulus measures revived and recovered The World's Economy and not just America's. The fact that there was No Global Depression a la The Great Repub Depression nor even a Global Recession due to Trump's Pandemic is virtually all Biden's doing.
Your kiddie-diddler hero Larry Summers could not gaze above a 10 year old's crotch area long enough to see the big picture in how Biden getting "too much" passed by a dime or two in the face of an inevitable Great Depression and Great Recession-loving Repub Majority just 2 years later, with a new virus spreading like wildfire across America and the rest of the world, the MAGA Lord pooh-poohing the idea of even taking the vaccine for it and nobody yet knowing if the long term effects of infection would kill even more hundreds of thousands of Americans than Trump had already Mass Murdered along with more manufacturers and supply-chains in paralysis 2 years later, 3, 4 or more.
It was the right move for America to be the first with the greatest stimulus and consequently the first transitory wave of unavoidable recovery inflation in order to get the world's economies moving again. No other nation had the power, means or, obviously, the ability to afford a piddling momentary 9. 1% inflation rate before it dramatically and steadily declined well into 2023 and 2024 in order to deal with the colossal mess of everything Trump handed the world.
As he is doing again today.
You can't possibly be so lacking in understanding of economics in the Real World not to know the Demand and the Ability to Pay for it had to come before the Supply would be manufactured and shipped from anywhere after Trump's disastrous decisions in 2018 and 2019 and his spectacular mismanagement of his colossal blunders all through 2020 was the order of things and not the other way around.
Or can you?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3060907]There would have been no reason for the global manufacturers and supply-chains to fire up and start manufacturing and shipping products anywhere until the biggest national customer on the planet had money in its pocket to start ordering products again after Trump's disastrous decisions in 2019 ushered in his Pandemic and crashed them.
In that way Biden's and the Dems' (and momentarily Trump's because the Dems insisted on it, but especially Biden / Dems' steady follow up legislation) stimulus measures revived and recovered The World's Economy and not just America's. The fact that there was No Global Depression a la The Great Repub Depression nor even a Global Recession due to Trump's Pandemic is virtually all Biden's doing.
Your kiddie-diddler hero Larry Summers could not gaze above a 10 year old's crotch area long enough to see the big picture in how Biden getting "too much" passed by a dime or two in the face of an inevitable Great Depression and Great Recession-loving Repub Majority just 2 years later, with a new virus spreading like wildfire across America and the rest of the world, the MAGA Lord pooh-poohing the idea of even taking the vaccine for it and nobody yet knowing if the long term effects of infection would kill even more hundreds of thousands of Americans than Trump had already Mass Murdered along with more manufacturers and supply-chains in paralysis 2 years later, 3, 4 or more.
It was the right move for America to be the first with the greatest stimulus and consequently the first transitory wave of unavoidable recovery inflation in order to get the world's economies moving again. No other nation had the power, means or, obviously, the ability to afford a piddling momentary 9. 1% inflation rate before it dramatically and steadily declined well into 2023 and 2024 in order to deal with the colossal mess of everything Trump handed the world.
As he is doing again today.
You can't possibly be so lacking in understanding of economics in the Real World not to know the Demand and the Ability to Pay for it had to come before the Supply would be manufactured and shipped from anywhere after Trump's disastrous decisions in 2018 and 2019 and his spectacular mismanagement of his colossal blunders all through 2020 was the order of things and not the other way around.
Or can you?[/QUOTE]Thanks to the Democrats' American Rescue Plan and other stimulus spending, [B]excess[/B] personal savings peaked around 2. 2 trillion in the summer of 2021. When people spent down the huge excess, it drove demand and inflation. Wages didn't increase as fast as prices of goods and services. So the American Workingman lost purchasing power. He became poorer.
Ironically, by giving away free money and free stuff, the Democratic Party came out the loser in 2024. Even Trump, an extremely poor general election candidate, won.
Trumps interference in supply chains in 2017 to 2020, principally through tariffs on China, didnt cause inflation to become a problem. 2025 is a different story, although YoY inflation still isnt close to the peaks during the Biden administration.
As to your other claim, the Trump Adminstration, Pfizer, and Moderna saved hundreds of thousands of lives by accelerating vaccine development with Operation Warp Speed. If memory serves me correctly Trump took the vaccine. And he was rightly proud of it.
[QUOTE=Canada;3060837]If Trump is a clown for 3% inflation then what does that m add me Biden with his 10% inflation? Biden inflation over his 4 years was over 22%. It is amazing that Trump has done so well after Biden regulations and policies drove inflation to the highest in 40 years. It takes time to stop a train wreck.[/QUOTE]Too old and senile Trump is used to play bad clown putting messe in everything, killing Americans and making lost jobs and inflation. I would not understand if he is not fired in November, after his lies about peace and many failures. A loser putting shame on USA. Go to play golf.
You mean they had the uranium that they were in dialogue and negotiations and which they were demonstrating agreeability to not have nukes before the attack by America, and now which they have reneged upon because "America isn't trustworthy"? How did this rationality work out for you? You just cannot get to admit it can you? That he had no reason, had no plan, had no end game, had no strategy and operated capriciously. Backward engineering "reasons" is precisely what you're doing right now, and if you're too dumb to admit this, then I pity you dude.
He's fucked America with his tariffs and now with this, and he's fucking the world too, and he has 2 more years to go.
Here's something for you to mull over when you insist in your brain at what a super genius he and his team are:
The top four members of Iran's negotiating team:
-PhD.
-PhD.
-PhD.
-PhD.
(and, of course, the President of Iran is a heart surgeon).
Top echelon of US negotiating team:
-Trump's son-in-law, crooked real estate heir, Saudi "prince"-dictator's best friend and notorious Israeli agent.
-Trump's golf buddy, crooked real estate businessman and notorious Israeli asset.
-Trump's vice-president, a failed author with no real power or agency.
-CENTCOM military commander, highly illiterate 'valet' who has already dishonoured his uniform and betrayed his oath in the last 44 days of brutal, unscrupulous and illegal war of aggression and genocidal threats against Iran.
Your fuhrer is playing 3 Dementia chess with Grandmasters.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3060871]Now you call me crazy but Trump is rational? LOL. You are the one not being rational.
Saying things always stay the same is more of your being irrational.
Nope, when Israel slaughtered those in Gaza Biden did no lift a finger. He gave Israel the weapons to do it.
I just posted the explanation as to what has changed and how much uranium Iran had. Iran has missiles that have reached Turkey and were sent to hit Diego Garcia far from Iran.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3060957]Ironically, by giving away free money and free stuff, the Democratic Party came out the loser in 2024. Even Trump, an extremely poor general election candidate, won.[/QUOTE]That is what gets me with the Dems. Trump was seen as an antidote to the Dems madness. DEI and a DEI presidential candidate, trans men in women's sports, white men being the root of all evil, out of control censorship, the idiotic lawfare, lying about Biden's mental state, and a rigged primary where the Democratic candidate was picked by the elites. It is important to remember how critical Democratic stupidity was in getting Trump elected.
Thing is Bill Maher warned the Dems. He said Trump was seen as the man who could defend America against all the crazies and Maher acknowledged it unlike other Dems. Thing is you got Tooms blasting Maher as a bothsider and Republicans which cracks me up. Maher was correctly being critical of the Democrats as they were running off of a cliff.
I think once the Dems have an open primary season and do not rig it, they will get an electable candidate. Trump has gone way too far and alienated even his supporters. He is not working deals but flying off the handle impulsively. While I disagree in part with it, the image of Trump being Israel's beetch is going to bite the Republicans in the butt.
And if the Dems elect a halfway rational candidate in 2028 like the governor of PA or KY versus an alcoholic brain dead hooker who literally sucked her way to the top, the election is theirs to lose. Unless the war in Iran is won in quick and spectacular fashion, which is very much in doubt, the Republicans are going to get slaughtered in the mid-terms.
I was told if there was an impeachment and a private versus public ballot in the a Senate, Trump being gone would be a done deal. I think he has only 20 Republicans senators who really support him. The irony is that impeachment may be the Republican's saving grace. If JD Vance becomes president after an impeachment and is just not the impulsive egotistical blowhard Trump is, and he really is not like that, then the Republicans may have a chance in 2028.
Low brained, megaloman Trump wants same Arc Triomphe than in Paris, but he will never get same culture. Pathetic guy spending billions, also in White House and new building in Miami, and Americans will have to pay.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3060973]That is what gets me with the Dems. Trump was seen as an antidote to the Dems madness. DEI and a DEI presidential candidate, trans men in women's sports, white men being the root of all evil, out of control censorship, the idiotic lawfare, lying about Biden's mental state, and a rigged primary where the Democratic candidate was picked by the elites. It is important to remember how critical Democratic stupidity was in getting Trump elected.
Thing is Bill Maher warned the Dems. He said Trump was seen as the man who could defend America against all the crazies and Maher acknowledged it unlike other Dems. Thing is you got Tooms blasting Maher as a bothsider and Republicans which cracks me up. Maher was correctly being critical of the Democrats as they were running off of a cliff.
I think once the Dems have an open primary season and do not rig it, they will get an electable candidate. Trump has gone way too far and alienated even his supporters. He is not working deals but flying off the handle impulsively. While I disagree in part with it, the image of Trump being Israel's beetch is going to bite the Republicans in the butt.
And if the Dems elect a halfway rational candidate in 2028 like the governor of PA or KY versus an alcoholic brain dead hooker who literally sucked her way to the top, the election is theirs to lose. Unless the war in Iran is won in quick and spectacular fashion, which is very much in doubt, the Republicans are going to get slaughtered in the mid-terms.
I was told if there was an impeachment and a private versus public ballot in the a Senate, Trump being gone would be a done deal. I think he has only 20 Republicans senators who really support him. The irony is that impeachment may be the Republican's saving grace. If JD Vance becomes president after an impeachment and is just not the impulsive egotistical blowhard Trump is, and he really is not like that, then the Republicans may have a chance in 2028.[/QUOTE]LOL Elvis, about Maher. Yes, our friend Tooms does have more in common with the hard core MAGA crowd than he'd care to admit. You do see people like Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelley and Candace Owens seriously questioning the President's judgement on certain matters. Tooms on the other hand seems inclined to defend absolutely any move by a Democrat president.
Trump's going to have to follow through on some of his more spectacular ideas, like bombing Iran back to the stone age, before he'd be removed via the 25th amendment or impeached by the Senate. I don't think that's going to happen. As you well know some of his more ridiculous statements are actually negotiating ploys. And when he fucks up, like letting Stephen Miller, Kristi Noem and Greg Bovino call the shots at ICE, he changes course.
I agree with you about the Democrats' chances if they select a good candidate. But who's left? Maybe Fetterman or like you say one of the governors. They ran off Sinema and Manchin. A rational Democratic governor wouldn't be a bad outcome at all PROVIDED Republicans controlled the Senate and / or House, like they did in Clinton's 2nd term. I have a feeling though that Democrats will sweep the presidency, Senate and House in 2028, and progressives will rule the roost. I hope I'm wrong.
I do like the way Vance thinks on defense, and he's an excellent orator, regardless of whether he believes what he's saying or not. I'd prefer Rand Paul for 2028, but that's very unlikely to happen. Rand I believe would be a strong general election candidate. If he's the candidate, I definitely wouldn't vote for the Libertarian, like I did in the last 3 elections. I'd probably vote for Vance too if he's running against a progressive.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3060957]Thanks to the Democrats' American Rescue Plan and other stimulus spending, [B]excess[/B] personal savings peaked around 2. 2 trillion in the summer of 2021. When people spent down the huge excess, it drove demand and inflation. Wages didn't increase as fast as prices of goods and services. So the American Workingman lost purchasing power. He became poorer.
Ironically, by giving away free money and free stuff, the Democratic Party came out the loser in 2024. Even Trump, an extremely poor general election candidate, won.
Trumps interference in supply chains in 2017 to 2020, principally through tariffs on China, didnt cause inflation to become a problem. 2025 is a different story, although YoY inflation still isnt close to the peaks during the Biden administration.
As to your other claim, the Trump Adminstration, Pfizer, and Moderna saved hundreds of thousands of lives by accelerating vaccine development with Operation Warp Speed. If memory serves me correctly Trump took the vaccine. And he was rightly proud of it.[/QUOTE]Biden and the Dems had nothing to do with the Global Inflation that occurred during and in the wake of Trump's Pandemic. That 9. 1% momentary peak in the USA economy's rate of inflation under Biden while he was also recovering the millions of jobs Trump had wiped out and going on to create millions more than all three previous Repub presidents combined, including Trump of course, was the Envy of the vast majority of other major countries that saw their inflation rates rise into double and triple digits with virtually no jobs recovery or creation in sight.
Blaming Trump's Pandemic Inflation on the incoming Biden Administration that was handed it and then recovered the world from it is perhaps the most ridiculous and oblivious of all ridiculous and obvious Repub MAGA concoctions. And that's saying a lot!
And, no, Trump did not grandly announce his and Melania's taking of the vaccine that Obama's original 7 years prior fast track vaccine and pandemic prevention program got done in near record time. He and Melania got vaccinated in near total secrecy, the report of it not coming out by what Trump falsely describes as "fake news" until long after they did it and hundreds of thousands of Americans had died for lack of taking it. And then Trump got booed by his rabid anti-vaccine Repub MAGA crowd that he had so deliberately and consistently indoctrinated into that position for daring to mention it might be a good idea to get vaccinated and he therefore never mentioned it again. He likely only did it that one too little too late time because he saw his Party's voters in deadbeat Red states dropping like flies from ongoing effects of his Trump's Pandemic virus.
[B]Donald Trump, Melania got COVID-19 vaccine in secret before leaving office.
March 2, 2021[/B]
[URL]https://globalnews.ca/news/7671671/donald-trump-coronavirus-vaccine-secret/[/URL]
[B]Trump got vaccinated in secret. Here's why this matters.
Dr. Peter Hotez says that if former President Donald Trump and former first lady Melania Trump had decided to reveal to the public that they received the Covid-19 vaccine it would have helped "melt away" a lot of vaccine hesitancy.[/B]
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2021/03/02/donald-melania-trump-got-covid-19-vaccine-in-secret-hotez-sot-newday-sot-vpx.cnn[/URL]
[B]Trump booed at Alabama rally after telling supporters to get vaccinated.
"But I recommend take the vaccines," Trump said. "I did it. It's good. Take the vaccines."
Aug. 22, 2021[/B]
[URL]https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-booed-alabama-rally-after-telling-supporters-get-vaccinated-n1277404[/URL]
[QUOTE]Covid cases and hospitalizations are surging in large parts of the South because of the highly contagious delta variant of the coronavirus. Cullman, where the rally was hosted, is experiencing a rise in cases that has matched its previous peak from late December. The city declared a Covid state of emergency Thursday to provide extra emergency support for the rally.
Alabama has the lowest vaccination rate in the U.S., with just more than 36 percent of its population having been fully inoculated, according to an NBC News tracker. Gov. Kay Ivey, a Republican, has said "the unvaccinated folks" are to blame for Covid's resurgence in the state.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Tiny12;3060653]From ChatGPT, here's South Australia's total energy consumption by source. I believe SA's share of consumption from renewables should be higher than other states based on what I recall you posting, but could be wrong. These numbers are adjusted for Victoria interconnects.
Liquid petroleum products 42% to 45%
Natural Gas 30% to 34%
Renewables (wind, solar, bioenergy) 14% to 18%
Coal 3% to 6%
Other 3% to 5%[/QUOTE]Don't care if you are "cut-and-pasting" for ChatGOP, because you can't think for yourself or your not smart enough to put aggregated data into your own words.
I want to see [B][u]the links[/B][ / you] to the data information.
BTW, that would be data, information and numbers the electrification on SA's electrical grid!