Manila

Lurkers, just a bit of advice on treating the working ladies as we ply our trade in places like the PI. I have an old Navy buddy that I used to run the streets with a long time ago. He's divorced now and looking for another Pinay to ride it out with (as he says), so I hooked him up with one I had known from Tagged and a few visits with in Manila. They hit it off make plans for his trip there and he tells her if things look good, lets plan a trip to the US Embassy to start the paperwork. Obviously my "lady friend" is excited.

My buddy gets there she picks him up and they do the dance of the lost lovers for the first couple of days. Then I get texts from both that says "I've gone back home" (from her) and "she's not my type in person" (from him). Fair enough. However, my buddy didn't offer any tip. In his words he paid for the nights stay at the hotel and breakfasts and dinners and that was all he felt obligated to. She was upset because she has no money, used gas and other expenses to get there and feels like he went back on his words. Not going to get into the drama about her not liking him bragging about he has money and a big house back in the states, etc while she is your typical Pinay with nothing.

I say this to all the mongerers out there, treat them kindly. I get nothing like getting freebies, but if you meet up first time, and don't pay anything to me that's looks bad, especially if you are boasting on how much you have and making promises. Told my buddy we aren't young bulls anymore, we got 6 decades behind us and those days of being "Rico Suave" are long gone, and not a good thing to welch like that. But at least that's just how I see it.

I know it's all a big hustle and anything goes, but be nice fellows. Don't get taken advantage of out there, but at the same time don't take advantage. Leave the park clean enough for the rest of us!

Just my rant!

[QUOTE=Drbombay;2992258]Lurkers, just a bit of advice on treating the working ladies as we ply our trade in places like the PI. I have an old Navy buddy that I used to run the streets with a long time ago. He's divorced now and looking for another Pinay to ride it out with (as he says), so I hooked him up with one I had known from Tagged and a few visits with in Manila. They hit it off make plans for his trip there and he tells her if things look good, lets plan a trip to the US Embassy to start the paperwork. Obviously my "lady friend" is excited.

My buddy gets there she picks him up and they do the dance of the lost lovers for the first couple of days. Then I get texts from both that says "I've gone back home" (from her) and "she's not my type in person" (from him). Fair enough. However, my buddy didn't offer any tip. In his words he paid for the nights stay at the hotel and breakfasts and dinners and that was all he felt obligated to. She was upset because she has no money, used gas and other expenses to get there and feels like he went back on his words. Not going to get into the drama about her not liking him bragging about he has money and a big house back in the states, etc while she is your typical Pinay with nothing.

I say this to all the mongerers out there, treat them kindly. I get nothing like getting freebies, but if you meet up first time, and don't pay anything to me that's looks bad, especially if you are boasting on how much you have and making promises. Told my buddy we aren't young bulls anymore, we got 6 decades behind us and those days of being "Rico Suave" are long gone, and not a good thing to welch like that. But at least that's just how I see it.

I know it's all a big hustle and anything goes, but be nice fellows. Don't get taken advantage of out there, but at the same time don't take advantage. Leave the park clean enough for the rest of us!

Just my rant![/QUOTE]I haven't found too many upsides to giving out referrals. It's amazing the number of times normally nice guys and good friends go crazy the moment pussy is involved. Unfortunately this reflects badly on the referee as well.

I've never understood guys lying to pinas just to get laid. Guys are tripping over pussy as soon as they arrive so anyone who feels that they need to lie to attract girls must be off the charts insecure.

I'm sure it's actually counter productive. The more experienced girls have heard the BS stories and promises a thousand times. The know instinctively when they are being lied to. You would be surprised the number of times that I have been complimented for being honest and perceived roadblocks have been no impediment to her jumping in a taxi.

"I'm married, only in town for a few days and just looking to meet new people".

"Ok. We can still be friends. Where are you staying? Is a pretty common reply.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Drbombay;2992258]Lurkers, just a bit of advice on treating the working ladies as we ply our trade in places like the PI. I have an old Navy buddy that I used to run the streets with a long time ago. He's divorced now and looking for another Pinay to ride it out with (as he says), so I hooked him up with one I had known from Tagged and a few visits with in Manila. They hit it off make plans for his trip there and he tells her if things look good, lets plan a trip to the US Embassy to start the paperwork. Obviously my "lady friend" is excited.

My buddy gets there she picks him up and they do the dance of the lost lovers for the first couple of days. Then I get texts from both that says "I've gone back home" (from her) and "she's not my type in person" (from him). Fair enough. However, my buddy didn't offer any tip. In his words he paid for the nights stay at the hotel and breakfasts and dinners and that was all he felt obligated to. She was upset because she has no money, used gas and other expenses to get there and feels like he went back on his words. Not going to get into the drama about her not liking him bragging about he has money and a big house back in the states, etc while she is your typical Pinay with nothing.

I say this to all the mongerers out there, treat them kindly. I get nothing like getting freebies, but if you meet up first time, and don't pay anything to me that's looks bad, especially if you are boasting on how much you have and making promises. Told my buddy we aren't young bulls anymore, we got 6 decades behind us and those days of being "Rico Suave" are long gone, and not a good thing to welch like that. But at least that's just how I see it.

I know it's all a big hustle and anything goes, but be nice fellows. Don't get taken advantage of out there, but at the same time don't take advantage. Leave the park clean enough for the rest of us!

Just my rant![/QUOTE]I don't give out referrals either anymore. I have had them mistreat them, no tip or under pay and all that. "We got along so good that I thought she had a good time. No need to pay or tip her. She should pay me!" Fucking idiots. People have to eat here and pay rent and bills.

Some old fat dirty ass really believes the girl had a such great time with him and his dick was sooo good that she should pay him?

[QUOTE=Drbombay;2992258]Lurkers, just a bit of advice on treating the working ladies as we ply our trade in places like the PI. I have an old Navy buddy that I used to run the streets with a long time ago. He's divorced now and looking for another Pinay to ride it out with (as he says), so I hooked him up with one I had known from Tagged and a few visits with in Manila. They hit it off make plans for his trip there and he tells her if things look good, lets plan a trip to the US Embassy to start the paperwork. Obviously my "lady friend" is excited.

My buddy gets there she picks him up and they do the dance of the lost lovers for the first couple of days. Then I get texts from both that says "I've gone back home" (from her) and "she's not my type in person" (from him). Fair enough. However, my buddy didn't offer any tip. In his words he paid for the nights stay at the hotel and breakfasts and dinners and that was all he felt obligated to. She was upset because she has no money, used gas and other expenses to get there and feels like he went back on his words. Not going to get into the drama about her not liking him bragging about he has money and a big house back in the states, etc while she is your typical Pinay with nothing.

I say this to all the mongerers out there, treat them kindly. I get nothing like getting freebies, but if you meet up first time, and don't pay anything to me that's looks bad, especially if you are boasting on how much you have and making promises. Told my buddy we aren't young bulls anymore, we got 6 decades behind us and those days of being "Rico Suave" are long gone, and not a good thing to welch like that. But at least that's just how I see it.

I know it's all a big hustle and anything goes, but be nice fellows. Don't get taken advantage of out there, but at the same time don't take advantage. Leave the park clean enough for the rest of us!

Just my rant![/QUOTE]Sorry man. Don't agree with you. In my opinion she was a hoe that wanted to be a good girl, and wanted the advantages of both. Can't both be a good girl and considered for a long term relationship AND get paid. Sorry doesn't work like that. The cake don't come with a fork.

If you're dating a girl, you're dating her. If you got a hoe you pay her. Lines are clear, this girl wanted to blur the lines. I think we're all much better off when the lines are clear.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gHqqNPLRF4[/URL]

Great video on problems in a few months with moved in girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2992321]Sorry man. Don't agree with you. In my opinion she was a hoe that wanted to be a good girl, and wanted the advantages of both. Can't both be a good girl and considered for a long term relationship AND get paid. Sorry doesn't work like that. The cake don't come with a fork.

If you're dating a girl, you're dating her. If you got a hoe you pay her. Lines are clear, this girl wanted to blur the lines. I think we're all much better off when the lines are clear.[/QUOTE]They were not dating, he came in for a hookup, they all start that way where it goes from there it goes. Can't go along with that, then why didn't he pay her. Sounds like they did the love dance, did he think that was on the house. A few meals and a hotel he thinks is the price of pussy, he is sadly mistaken. My advice to him stay home and away from Asia. Its a good example how the "Cheap Charlie" name got started in the first place. Here's a news flash to those who think you are Gods gift to women. "Pussy aint free". Girlfriend, wife, bar pickup up or set up like here. I've been the world over and if any of you gents know a free pussy location please educate the rest of us. Got a buddy in US just had 3 dates with a chick and he got a peck on the cheek, and she was nothing like the young beauties in the PHP. Maybe he didn't like the product, fine you pay her anyway. I've had many barfines over the years that were duds, but I paid anyway. Its called being a gentleman, that small amount of money means nothing to us. Give her couple hundred bucks pat her on the bottom and just say sorry no connection here. This is the long run can pay off as they will often recommend a friend or two. I hate hearing stories like this but I know it still happens. Sorry Drbombay hope this does not reflect badly on you.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2991074]It's your money so you do what you want with it but I've never understood this justification. The $300 was spent in the Philippines so I would compare it to what it could have gotten there, not back home.

I'm constantly amazed by the number of poverty babes who peel off jeans and a T shirt or a $5 dress to reveal a bikini model underneath. Let's not even discuss their fun attitude vs the golden pussy girls' entitlement.

Again, no criticism of you or how you spent your money to get what you wanted. Just an observation of alternatives.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I know what 300 dollars got me, a hot girl I rarely see. Smokin is a better word, and she was GFE on another level and stayed until noon with many repeats. Now do I do this often, of course not, but occasionally its not going to put me in the poor house. I get it some guys will spend enormous amount to get there plus room and board and reject a girl over 20 bucks!! This to me is insane and a justification I do not understand and probably never will.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2992321]Sorry man. Don't agree with you. In my opinion she was a hoe that wanted to be a good girl, and wanted the advantages of both. Can't both be a good girl and considered for a long term relationship AND get paid. Sorry doesn't work like that. The cake don't come with a fork.

If you're dating a girl, you're dating her. If you got a hoe you pay her. Lines are clear, this girl wanted to blur the lines. I think we're all much better off when the lines are clear.[/QUOTE]Probably she was referring to her expenses, not necessarily on getting some dough of his friend, life is harsh for the natives, and the budget is all planed to the last dime. I always have that in mind, even when I'm in the right, and the girl that shows up is not looking like the one in the pic, and I send her back home, I give her trike money, also keeping in mind that's not good to create enemies in a foreign land.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2992321]Sorry man. Don't agree with you. In my opinion she was a hoe that wanted to be a good girl, and wanted the advantages of both. Can't both be a good girl and considered for a long term relationship AND get paid. Sorry doesn't work like that. The cake don't come with a fork.

If you're dating a girl, you're dating her. If you got a hoe you pay her. Lines are clear, this girl wanted to blur the lines. I think we're all much better off when the lines are clear.[/QUOTE]To some extent that is true. I know of her other "friends" and she was looking to cash in. Playing the field they call it in betting. But still, I'm more upset at my buddy for knowing the game but totally not respecting it. But, to each their own.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2992332]I know what 300 dollars got me, a hot girl I rarely see. Smokin is a better word, and she was GFE on another level and stayed until noon with many repeats. Now do I do this often, of course not, but occasionally its not going to put me in the poor house. I get it some guys will spend enormous amount to get there plus room and board and reject a girl over 20 bucks!! This to me is insane and a justification I do not understand and probably never will.[/QUOTE]$300 is 17,000 PHP. That's the monthly full time salary of someone working in a mall, and you just randomly gave it to a girl for one night because, *checks notes*, she's hot?

News flash, Philippines is full of hot girls that you don't have to spend 17 k pesos on LOL. Sure, absolutely pay her the going rate, the going rate for a hot girl overnight in Manila is anything from 5-10 k pesos depending on where you got her from and your negotiating skills. Some girls will even be happy with 3 k but that's more ST rates these days.

And yes, we know it's cheaper than NY / LA / Vegas / Miami etc. Guess what, we aren't in those places and neither are these girls. But with the way the spending is these days, it won't be long before Manila girls might as well be Miami ones cost wise.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2992274]I haven't found too many upsides to giving out referrals. It's amazing the number of times normally nice guys and good friends go crazy the moment pussy is involved. Unfortunately this reflects badly on the referee as well.

I've never understood guys lying to pinas just to get laid. Guys are tripping over pussy as soon as they arrive so anyone who feels that they need to lie to attract girls must be off the charts insecure.

I'm sure it's actually counter productive. The more experienced girls have heard the BS stories and promises a thousand times. The know instinctively when they are being lied to. You would be surprised the number of times that I have been complimented for being honest and perceived roadblocks have been no impediment to her jumping in a taxi.

"I'm married, only in town for a few days and just looking to meet new people".

"Ok. We can still be friends. Where are you staying? Is a pretty common reply.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I tell them upfront, I'm not leaving home but I can be around to pay for play and not need to go out all night. Some take up that offer some don't. My buddy still thinks we are in our 30's running the streets of San Diego and the Trophy Lounge! Time to move on. But if he feels he can still get them to give it to him for free more power to him. Just not my method anymore.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2992331]They were not dating, he came in for a hookup, they all start that way where it goes from there it goes. Can't go along with that, then why didn't he pay her. Sounds like they did the love dance, did he think that was on the house. A few meals and a hotel he thinks is the price of pussy, he is sadly mistaken. My advice to him stay home and away from Asia. Its a good example how the "Cheap Charlie" name got started in the first place. Here's a news flash to those who think you are Gods gift to women. "Pussy aint free". Girlfriend, wife, bar pickup up or set up like here. I've been the world over and if any of you gents know a free pussy location please educate the rest of us. Got a buddy in US just had 3 dates with a chick and he got a peck on the cheek, and she was nothing like the young beauties in the PHP. Maybe he didn't like the product, fine you pay her anyway. I've had many barfines over the years that were duds, but I paid anyway. Its called being a gentleman, that small amount of money means nothing to us. Give her couple hundred bucks pat her on the bottom and just say sorry no connection here. This is the long run can pay off as they will often recommend a friend or two. I hate hearing stories like this but I know it still happens. Sorry Drbombay hope this does not reflect badly on you.[/QUOTE]

I assumed they were both in it to date. The term "ride it out with" gave me that impression. I wouldn't "ride it out with" a hooker. If she just wanted travel expenses. Yea the guy should have coughed up the dough. Agree there. thats nothing. If she wanted to get paid for sex. Thats a no no in my book.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2992332]I know what 300 dollars got me, a hot girl I rarely see. Smokin is a better word, and she was GFE on another level and stayed until noon with many repeats. Now do I do this often, of course not, but occasionally its not going to put me in the poor house. I get it some guys will spend enormous amount to get there plus room and board and reject a girl over 20 bucks!! This to me is insane and a justification I do not understand and probably never will.[/QUOTE]I agree with you and it is none of my business nor anyone else's what you do with your money and your dick. A few times the girl was so hot and slutty that I had to have her. I paid above the union wage with no regrets. My money my dick.

Few months ago, I contacted really cute girl off Pina love. She wasn't 10 by any means but she was solid 8.

After exchanging WhatsApp numbers, I asked her to come over.

She said sure, before she comes over I asked her what is for ST. She said 20,000 Pesos, I thought she is kidding but no.

I wasn't going to take her anyway but I offered her 10,000 peso she still said no. So I said forget it.

Few weeks later I contacted her again just to make sure she dident lose her mind, again she said 20,000 peso.

I wasn't curious and asked her, does people really pay 20,000 ? She said " I don't get many people but I do get atleast 2 or 3 a week".

Every girl has her stretgey but I will never pay anything more then 70 $ max. 8 or not.

[QUOTE=Locamotive;2992332]I know what 300 dollars got me, a hot girl I rarely see. Smokin is a better word, and she was GFE on another level and stayed until noon with many repeats. Now do I do this often, of course not, but occasionally its not going to put me in the poor house. I get it some guys will spend enormous amount to get there plus room and board and reject a girl over 20 bucks!! This to me is insane and a justification I do not understand and probably never will.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2992590]Few months ago, I contacted really cute girl off Pina love. She wasn't 10 by any means but she was solid 8.

After exchanging WhatsApp numbers, I asked her to come over.

She said sure, before she comes over I asked her what is for ST. She said 20,000 Pesos, I thought she is kidding but no.

I wasn't going to take her anyway but I offered her 10,000 peso she still said no. So I said forget it.

Few weeks later I contacted her again just to make sure she dident lose her mind, again she said 20,000 peso.

I wasn't curious and asked her, does people really pay 20,000 ? She said " I don't get many people but I do get atleast 2 or 3 a week".

Every girl has her stretgey but I will never pay anything more then 70 $ max. 8 or not.[/QUOTE]Well 20 k is just ridiculous. The 15 k I paid was high but she was exceptional, but 20 k?. Nah that's a bit much. She must have thought she was a 10. But I talk to some girls in bars and occasionally they do have someone take them to a beach somewhere and gives them 20 or 25 k a day. These guys are few and far in-between where money is just no object. Good for them and the girls who can get it.