Amsterdam

I'm thinking about making another trip out to Amsterdam soon but I was looking for something similar to Asmara. I've noted it's not been great from past several posts, but I like their lineup system, the service was pretty subpar though. Girl was mechanical, bored, and even had an attitude.

Is there somewhere that offer similar services but better service? Especially since Asmara hasn't been mentioned in a bit?

Was recently at the Asmara. Little choice of girls (just 3 in the evening). The guy at the reception not welcoming at all.

Choose Sophia, great girl from Italy. Not a stunner as such but absolutely lovely with great soft tits and a nice character.

Damage 110 Eur for 1 HR massage and sex. The pricing at Asmara is different per service and starts at 80 Eur. Ok experience but not fantastic, but definitely an alternative to rip off opportunities.

Long-time lurker, first report.

Had my first taste of the Amsterdam Red Light District last year and wanted to come back. Bottom line: bring euros. Lots of euros. No cheap sex here, at least after dark in the main canal area. Almost better to think of it as a big party with a side order of peep show. Also if you like to bar-hop, this is a great place.

I paid for two nights in an AirBNB within the RLD itself. Amsterdam is not cheap. I knew this going in, but wanted the experience of overnighting in the RLD. Having done it once, I don't need to do it again. If you want to tour Amsterdam, recommend looking for AirBNBs in Zaandam or even Utrecht.

By day the RLD is much like the rest of Amsterdam. Fewer girls work in the windows, the crowds are much thinner, and the clink of glasses in the bars isn't so loud. The carillon in de Oude Kerk (The Old Church) can make you think you're somewhere else other than in a bawdy district. Of note, the world's only statue monument to sex workers, "Belle," is right next to de Oude Kerk. When I visited on the eve of Easter weekend, there was an "in memoriam" note to a slain sex worker attached to it. Very sad.

As evening came, the RLD came alive. A shopkeeper near Dollebejinsteeg cautioned me that the women who work after dark may be more of the sharky kind (my words, not his), in part due to the fact that they have to deal with more drunk, less appealing guys on average. He recommended searching for sex workers who worked during the day. Really enjoyed talking to this gentleman. He also works as a tour guide. I bought some souvenir chocolates from him. Figures entwined in lascivious Kama Sutra positions.

Beholden to optics as I am, I wanted to savor the nighttime flair of the RLD. Evening fell and the crowds grew. There were just as many women as men, and parents pushing strollers were not unusual, although it raised my eyebrows. Gaggles of young men hooted and guffawed at the sex workers, which disgusted me. On at least four separate occasions, sex workers yelled and cursed at guys trying to sneak pictures or video of them. One such fellow was cursed out right in front of his tour group. There's really no excuse for not knowing that photographing sex workers is a no-no, but guys do it anyway. I saw one man filming from maybe 25 meters away. I deliberately stepped in front of him to block his camera.

Overall, my sexual experiences were a disappointment. Fifty euro gets you in her door. Think of it that way.

The one bright spot from the night's efforts is that I did get to fondle two of the most beautiful boobs I've ever seen. However, the overall returns on my investment were negative. I would rather just give several really sexy girls whom I couldn't take my eyes off of 10 euro tips and give them a smile than try to find a GFE for 100 euro here. I'm sure the locals do far better than the tourists, and I'm sure that better deals can be had in Amsterdam's other RLDs (de Singelgebied and de Pijp), but I would require a return trip to try to test this out.

Oh, there were hotties out there, all right. Loads of them. How in the world was I to decide? First there was a cutie in Dollebegijnsteeg. Then I pushed on and found another in Stoofsteeg; a lady with mountainous (Huge) boobs on the main Achterburgwal, and then I saw Anna a few windows up and I was hooked. Drop dead freaking gorgeous. I made a circuit up to the Black Tiger Bar and checked out the little "basement" area just north of it. I circled back and Anna was still there. The door opened.

She led me to a back room and instructed me to just yank my pants down. At this point I was only out the original 50 euro. My memory has already gone fuzzy, but it was clear that I wasn't going to get anything like a GFE. Not even a quarter GFE. She was pleasant, not cold or unfriendly, but like an airline that has learned to market every extra inch of legroom on a flight, Anna had learned the upselling technique to the hilt.

I knew I could get taken. I figured it was like generals who are willing to sacrifice troops to gain Intel about how to fight a bigger, better war machine. In my case the strategy has become clear: don't engage.

Oh, sure, if you threw 400 euros at these ladies, you might get everything you wanted, but why do it in the Amsterdam RLD when German FKK clubs are a short train ride away?

So, back to Anna. Goddess-level good looks. I think she quoted me a price for a blow job that was an eye-opener, which I refused. She probed me, trying to find my sales point. I think I mentioned I really liked foreplay, but that probably didn't even register. I forked over another 50 euro for her to take her top off. I played with her tits, which were magnificent. I asked if I could kiss them, and she refused. She gave me a line that she had a tanning product on that wouldn't taste good.

Supposedly the extra 50 would get me a lap dance, but I've had far better experiences in the booths in American strip clubs. It was like those mechanical pony rides that children begged their parents to put a quarter into so they could feel the motion for a minute.

She told me threesomes were a possibility, going for a drink, etc. But at this point I was just so crestfallen at all the false summits that I called it quits when the timer went off (which was probably set to 15 minutes). I pulled my pants up and she hosed down the vinyl mattress with disinfectant.

No air kisses at the door. Just the memory of some damned fine tits.

I decided to give it one more go. I returned to Stoofsteeg and found a lady who seemed to have a good look in her eye. I opened with asking for a quote for how much for sex for one hour.

Three hundred euros, came the reply.

Gulp.

I eventually agreed to sex for 30 min for 150. I washed myself in the sink and she (Andra) touched me, and we chatted for a bit. She was working on getting me hard, but nothing was happening. It was just awkward, not being able to kiss her, the tension of the clock, etc. I tried wanking myself to erection. Nothing. She tried it. Zero. (And why is it some women think the way to get a guy hard is to yank on the schwanz like she's trying to uproot weeds in the garden? Kissing would work so much better, but of course that's more money. If it's on the menu at all.).

Finally I agreed to change the plans. A blow job (with her top off, even. Whoopee) but no sex. She succeeded in getting me hard by sucking me, which felt good. -Quite good.

But then she started this (excuse me) asinine technique of sucking / blowing for 4-5 slurps, and then she would break off and go back to wanking for 30 seconds or so. Breaking the rhythm like that without any chance of coming was a deal-killer for me.

Again, she was pleasant, no coldness, but I left with no pop and a lot lighter in the wallet with nothing to show for it except newfound wisdom.

Bottom line: Amsterdam RLD is a great party atmosphere with some very hot women, and I believe a good sexual time can be had there. But I'm sure it takes time, patience, and practice.

I must say, I have had significantly better sex in Park 118 for 65 Euros than what you described. Yes the girls are a notch lower but the experience 10 fold better.

You seem to like the same things as me (kissing a truely beautiful woman), so I put in some effort to give you a better chance next time.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Had my first taste of the Amsterdam Red Light District last year and wanted to come back. Bottom line: bring euros. Lots of euros. [/QUOTE]You might as well RTFF. I wrote on this, e. G. Post 2043 but there are older ones as well.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]As evening came, the RLD came alive. A shopkeeper near Dollebejinsteeg cautioned me that the women who work after dark may be more of the sharky kind [/QUOTE]So true but there are exceptions.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Beholden to optics as I am, [/QUOTE]Me too.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I saw one man filming from maybe 25 meters away. I deliberately stepped in front of him to block his camera.[/QUOTE]Bravo! I did things like that. But beware. There are groups of especially English (drinking tour) and Dutch people (bachelor party from the country boys) that might take offense.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Overall, my sexual experiences were a disappointment. Fifty euro gets you in her door. Think of it that way.[/QUOTE]So true. You must do two things: tell that you will come to work here for a year or so. Next ask for half an hour. If that means 100 euro, then it will be OK. I did this so many times. In +500 sessions it failed once with a newby Hungarian a long time ago.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]The one bright spot from the night's efforts is that I did get to fondle two of the most beautiful boobs I've ever seen. [/QUOTE]That was what you were looking for, wasn't it? Not too bad.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]try to find a GFE for 100 euro here. [/QUOTE]In daytime maybe, but even then 200 for 1 hour is a safer option for GFE.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I'm sure the locals do far better than the tourists, [/QUOTE]Very true. But it's not about tourists. It's about a possible repeat. A girl needs a few regulars to give her an 'income plan'. I talked it over with a few girls and they really count with 'so many regulars to be expected this week' and the 'extra at random guys' But she has to work for those, compete with colleagues. Again, tell her you are starting work here for a year or so. You will be a possible repeat customer for her. And daytime will generally get you nicer girls but not always.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]and I'm sure that better deals can be had in Amsterdam's other RLDs (de Singelgebied and de Pijp),[/QUOTE]Het Singelgebied is very much hit or miss and very, very few beauties. That is what you wanted? Or not? De Pijp seems to be almost dead when I go there every so often. It depressed me, so I don't go there more often than a few times a year. Last one was a few months ago, around 20:00 on Thursday: empty.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Oh, there were hotties out there, all right. Loads of them. How in the world was I to decide? First there was a cutie in Dollebegijnsteeg. Then I pushed on and found another in Stoofsteeg; a lady with mountainous (Huge) boobs on the main Achterburgwal, and then I saw Anna a few windows up and I was hooked. Drop dead freaking gorgeous. I made a circuit up to the Black Tiger Bar and checked out the little "basement" area just north of it. I circled back and Anna was still there. The door opened.[/QUOTE]If you keep on walking, cruising the windows again and again then you might be one of two kinds: customer waiting for his favourite girl to appear or an indecisive person. The first one is popular, because it is a repeat customer and girls like to snatch him from their colleague. The second one is 'fair prey'. If a girl opens the door without my initiative I move on. It is a bad sign. But you had your drop dead gorgeous woman. Not too bad. I you go to FKK Germany you will not find this kind of beauty. Or they are busy all the time and you still don't see them. But I find the top beauties of Amsterdam to be well above the top beauties in FKK Germany.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]She led me to a back room and instructed me to just yank my pants down.[/QUOTE]I would have run. If a girl doesn't undress. If she doesn't politely wait for you to undress fully, then take a runner. An MO you might try: put the money on the table and not give it to her. If she then starts like this, you just get your money from the table and leave. I did something like that once: grabbed the money from her hands when she started to ask stupid questions. She may be surprised still. I went to another girl, shared the story and laughed about it with her. The nice girls don't like the sharky ones as well!

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Oh, sure, if you threw 400 euros at these ladies, you might get everything you wanted, but why do it in the Amsterdam RLD [/QUOTE]Absolutely not true. They will give their standard service for the money. If they like you they will give you much more but that happened only twice to me.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]when German FKK clubs are a short train ride away?[/QUOTE]Not so short to me. And to be honest, the service I get in RLD Amsterdam is better than in most FKK's in Germany.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Supposedly the extra 50 would get me a lap dance[/QUOTE]Better not to give extra's for extra services. Pay for her time and be strict about it. Paying for extra's is called 'Pezen' in Holland (a very derogatory expression) and you will pay a lot for almost nothing. However in negotiating BEFORE the session you can ask for anal or some other service you like.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]She told me threesomes were a possibility[/QUOTE]Threesomes in RLD? A sure sign she sees you as 'fair prey'. Even in FKK Germany I decline unless I already had a session with one of them and that one is to vouch for the other. They never offer me threesomes when they can have me one-on-one.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I pulled my pants up and she hosed down the vinyl mattress with disinfectant.[/QUOTE]Yikes. So sorry for you.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]No air kisses at the door. Just the memory of some damned fine tits.[/QUOTE]In Holland you get three kisses at the door. You kiss her cheeks. Insist on them. They will at least know that you are familiar with the custom.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I decided to give it one more go. I returned to Stoofsteeg and found a lady who seemed to have a good look in her eye. I opened with asking for a quote for how much for sex for one hour.[/QUOTE]That is a good question!

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Three hundred euros, came the reply.[/QUOTE]That is the wrong answer. Anything above 200 euros is a sure sign of a shark lady.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Gulp.[/QUOTE]The right answer. Bravo.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]I eventually agreed to sex for 30 min for 150. [/QUOTE]The wrong answer. It should be 100.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Kissing would work so much better, but of course that's more money. If it's on the menu at all.).[/QUOTE]In all those years I had it twice. Don't look for kissing in Amsterdam, or be a 20-something GOD. But even then only few ladies will kiss you. Did you look at other people roaming the streets in RLD? Would you like to kiss them? For kissing go to FKK Germany (even there it is not always on the menu, especially if you want a beauty) or a brothel with ladies above 30 yo. Or fatties etc.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Finally I agreed to change the plans. A blow job (with her top off, even. Whoopee) but no sex. She succeeded in getting me hard by sucking me, which felt good. -Quite good.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you paid but here is another tip for you. Agree on 100 euro for half an hour or any multiple of that ratio. Start putting off your clothes. Pay her when you are fully naked. But if she is still in her bikini or whatever, put your clothes on and leave. Find a lady in another street as the word will go fast. I only had to do a thing like that in FKK Germany (a withdrawn promise for kissing). But you can do it in Amsterdam as well. Just don't go to that street anymore for a few months.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]But then she started this (excuse me) asinine technique of sucking / blowing for 4-5 slurps, and then she would break off and go back to wanking for 30 seconds or so. Breaking the rhythm like that without any chance of coming was a deal-killer for me.[/QUOTE]A very common technique. Found often in Amsterdam but even more in FKK Germany. Tell her it puts you off and ask her to take larger intervals. But you are at her mercy once she touched your dick. No more money back or anything.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Again, she was pleasant, no coldness, but I left with no pop and a lot lighter in the wallet with nothing to show for it except newfound wisdom.[/QUOTE]Still not sure about what you paid but 100 euro shou'd have gotten you suck and fuck for half an hour. She seemed to have treated you as 'fair prey' but pleasingly. That is too little.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314212]Bottom line: Amsterdam RLD is a great party atmosphere with some very hot women, and I believe a good sexual time can be had there. But I'm sure it takes time, patience, and practice.[/QUOTE]I wrote much more concise about this. My post is nr 2043. If you had read that one, you might have had a much better experience. I mentioned the two girls I had best experiences with recently. I might go bankrupt because of Liana. Haven't tried anyone else anymore because of her. And it is always 200 euros for 1 hour. And maybe chocolates, no money. Liana will move to 'Oude kennissteeg' next week for a bigger room.

DioRetz, thank you for the fantastic feedback on the Amsterdam RLD. It seems we have had some different experiences at German FKKs. Feel free to read my two recent reports. Links below. My experiences there are limited, being able to visit from the USA only once a year, but kissing has usually been offered in FKKs without my asking. I'm surprised kissing is that rare in the Amsterdam RLD, and that's kind of a disincentive for me to return. I do like foreplay, caressing, intimacy, pillow talk.

I had one previous taste of the RLD last year. It was a Monday about 9 pm; things were quiet--nothing like the throngs I encountered this trip on Thursday & Friday nights. Found a very lovely lady who turned out to be from Albania. Paid fifty euros, she immediately took her top off, lay on the bed, and it was a good quick session. Amsterdam is so much fun and I love the RLD vibe. Wish I could get there more often.

You mentioned using a line with the ladies that you're starting work there for a year. If I could find a job in Netherlands or Germany I'd move from USA in a heartbeat. No family or kids to keep me here. As is the problem with most Americans, however, I'm essentially mono-lingual. I speak a smattering of German but not enough to have a real conversation. I'm more than willing to learn but suspect it may not be enough to get hired. I have to look more into this in depth.

Thanks again for all the tips and info.

LivingRoom:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2593-SC-Sauna-Club-Living-Room-Kaarst&p=2314234&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2314234.

Sixsens:

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3769-FKK-Sixsens&p=2314223&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2314223.

Anybody into african escorts in Amsterdam? Would like to get some recommendations for a Hotel visit.

Any experience with that one? Looks great.

[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/africanfantasy009/87427/[/URL]

Thanks in advance.

The 118 Club was easy to get to and find. Take the #4 tram (3.40 Euros ) from central station or downtown and it lets you off around the corner one block from the brothel. Went in and was presented only 3 girls. Two were a bit too chunky, and one, brunette Ana, was nice, but not what I was really looking for. I wanted a natural European blonde beauty. I selected Ana, as choices were limited, but during the discussion of "extras" she said she would not allow fingering, which is my requirement. So she amicably left, and asked the other girls who would do that, and to my great delight, one Jenna showed up, absent from the first roundup. This girl was just what the doctor ordered. Tall, striking, Dutch, slender, natural blonde beauty. She had the most amazing natural tits, perfect ass, sweet face. She said she was 22, and spoke perfect English. Made me use a condom for the fingers, which diminished the experience by about 20%, but was still nice. I could look, spread, caress the outside of the pussy and anus bare fingered, but deeply penetrated her sweet pink pussy only with condomed fingers. She was amazingly beautiful, did I mention that? However, her attitude was a bit aloof. She was personable, permissive to the limits agreed upon, but somewhat unenthusiastic. Also, she got up three times to wash her hands. I believe in hygiene, but it was somewhat disruptive of the mood. I would have appreciated more enthusiasm, but given the rare experience in its totality, I could accept that. Cost: 80 Euros for 45 minutes, 60 Euros for extras (light kissing and fingering). There is a 10% surcharge for credit card.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2317574] I'm surprised kissing is that rare in the Amsterdam RLD, and that's kind of a disincentive for me to return. I do like foreplay, caressing, intimacy, pillow talk.[/QUOTE]That is hard to find in RLD Amsterdam.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2317574]I had one previous taste of the RLD last year. It was a Monday about 9 pm; things were quiet--nothing like the throngs I encountered this trip on Thursday & Friday nights. Found a very lovely lady who turned out to be from Albania. Paid fifty euros, she immediately took her top off, lay on the bed, and it was a good quick session. Amsterdam is so much fun and I love the RLD vibe. Wish I could get there more often.[/QUOTE]Mondays are quiet. Perfect time to try your luck.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2317574]You mentioned using a line with the ladies that you're starting work there for a year. If I could find a job in Netherlands or Germany I'd move from USA in a heartbeat. No family or kids to keep me here. As is the problem with most Americans, however, I'm essentially mono-lingual. I speak a smattering of German but not enough to have a real conversation. I'm more than willing to learn but suspect it may not be enough to get hired. I have to look more into this in depth.[/QUOTE]Near the RLD there is an ice cream shop. Quite often I do have to order in English there. But it wouldn't get you a salary for an expensive hobby. However, if you have skills in ICT, even more so telecom then you can find a job here, speaking no Dutch at all. Amsterdam, Utrecht and Leiden are university cities and many people there do not speak Dutch. A few houses from my home there is a Russian working in software developing in telecom. He speaks Russian and English. If you work in finance there should be possibilities too. In Holland everyone speaks English but we socialise in Dutch! In Germany most people from 40 and younger speak English. I do think that Berlin is much the same as Holland.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314234]LivingRoom:[/QUOTE]Nice report I should go there once. But every time I make plans, something else comes up or they work on the railroads etc.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2314223]Sixsens:[/QUOTE]Good report. Just the reasons why I stopped going to Sixsens. If you plan on going back there, lie down in the Oriental room for half an hour. Might bring you a nice surprise but not always.

I read about your planning a visit to GT. You might do so but I stopped going there and spend time in Samya. To me Samya is much the same as GT used to be a few years ago with a vibrant party atmosphere as an extra. I visit Artemis every now and then because of my love for Berlin.

[QUOTE=Rithro;2317574]
You mentioned using a line with the ladies that you're starting work there for a year. If I could find a job in Netherlands or Germany I'd move from USA in a heartbeat. No family or kids to keep me here. As is the problem with most Americans, however, I'm essentially mono-lingual. I speak a smattering of German but not enough to have a real conversation. I'm more than willing to learn but suspect it may not be enough to get hired. I have to look more into this in depth.
[/QUOTE]Are you a member of LinkedIn? The majority of the vacancies is posted there. And as DioRetz already said: Dutch isn't always required.

I am doing som research for Asian massage parlours in Amsterdam. I mean full body massage with BBBJCIM (Probably not a surprise). Will pay back with a report. Thanks!

I'll be in town next week for two days. I'm in my late 30's, Chinese, little overweight. I'm usually into the cute young petite type of girl. Other than FS, I require BBBJ. I'd like to keep the price below 130 EUR for 30,180 EUR for HR. I only speak English and am only available in the daytime. Ideally, the girl would be a local. I visit many countries and try to see a local at each country. Kind of like checking off a list.

From reading parts of this thread, I'm not sure if I should try a window girl, club, or escort. With the window girl, at least I know who I'm getting, but it seems this is where I have the highest probability of getting a poor / lazy service. At a club, I can choose the girl too but there is less selection and harder to negotiate (I don't know what is "standard" I can try an escort and try to negotiate beforehand, but who know who I will get. Getting older, it is harder for me to keep things going if the girl doesn't do her job. For example, I read about girls that decide to take breaks jury a BJ and stop the rhythm. That is definitely something that would ruin the experience for me.

Or I could skip all of this and wait for my next trip to a FKK.

A big shout to mogwai for going out pf his way to help fellow mongers!

Maastricht: very pretty and very dry. None of the searches revealed anything substantial. Walked around the town, was approached by pimps near VOdafone. My gut told me to avoid. So no results. There is stuff, but risky.

Amsterdam: was short so went to the oft recommended 118. Great GFE session with Roxana, a tall black with a stunning body. Paid extra 40 for kissing (no younger) and enjoyed it.

Then a visit here not complete without the rld, somewhere a mongers tick mark. So went in for a quick blow.

Enjoy and thanks Mogwai again!

[QUOTE=TomHardy223;2320441]A big shout to mogwai for going out pf his way to help fellow mongers![/QUOTE]Thanks, you're welcome!

[QUOTE=Enphl;2320394]I'll be in town next week for two days. I'm in my late 30's, Chinese, little overweight. I'm usually into the cute young petite type of girl. Other than FS, I require BBBJ. I'd like to keep the price below 130 EUR for 30,180 EUR for HR. I only speak English and am only available in the daytime. Ideally, the girl would be a local. I visit many countries and try to see a local at each country. Kind of like checking off a list.

From reading parts of this thread, I'm not sure if I should try a window girl, club, or escort. With the window girl, at least I know who I'm getting, but it seems this is where I have the highest probability of getting a poor / lazy service. At a club, I can choose the girl too but there is less selection and harder to negotiate (I don't know what is "standard" I can try an escort and try to negotiate beforehand, but who know who I will get. Getting older, it is harder for me to keep things going if the girl doesn't do her job. For example, I read about girls that decide to take breaks jury a BJ and stop the rhythm. That is definitely something that would ruin the experience for me.
[/QUOTE]BBBJ is available from some of the window and club / private house girls, but they are usually not the cute young petite types. And certainly not Dutch.

Best try your luck with an advanced search at Kinky:

Click on 'Uitgebreid zoeken' at the top of the page.

Land: Nederland.
Provincie: Noord-Holland.
Plaats: Amsterdam.

Geslacht: Vrouw.
Talen: Nederlands.

Check the box for 'pijpen zonder condoom' (BBBJ).

Click on 'Zoeken'.