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[QUOTE=Deakyo;1353658]Thanks for your reply and yes, I should've stated what my definition of "quality" was, when it comes to girls. I really don't like the PSE type girls. I'm not a fan of pushy girls who talk a lot and have routine phrases which they throw at me, ex: "ooh baby me love you long time". That stresses me out and it feels faked.[/QUOTE]I really laughed at the "love you long time " part. Reminded me of the movie Good morning Vietnem. If you pick a girl from a go-go place the soultion is easy. Call the girl over, either directly or via a waitress / mamasan, offer to buy her a drink and you can spend some time getting a feel for what she is like. If you are not impressed feel free to pick a different girl or move on to a new bar, there are a multitude of both on offer.
I really do not mean to sour your experience especially as this is only your second visit, but the reality you will discover is that everything these girls say is faked right from the word go.
[QUOTE=Deakyo;1353658]I definitely prefer the GFE experience with someone more down to earth and / or shy. Someone relaxed. And to be honest, looks are not THAT important to me if the "type" of girl is according to those preferences[/QUOTE]Total respect for your honesty here. I have read so many post's on various forums from guys coming here for the first or second time and the list of requirements reads like a one month supermarket grocery list. Something completely unrealistic. I share your preference about looks. No one would want to have sex with, what they consider, an ugly girl. The top lookers can sometimes have a disproportionate attitude because of their perceived status. In whatever setting I always pick, what I consider, slightly above the average and the vast majority of times it has paid dividends.
When I have gone into go-go's sometimes and purely as a joke, as the girl has sat next to me I rattled off all the answers to all the questions they always ask a customer I. E "what your name","where you from","this your first time come Thailand". Most of the time it got a laugh from the girl and helped to break the ice.
[QUOTE=Deakyo;1353658]One more question though: What's the politest way of asking someone if they are a girl or lady-boy? This has always boggled my mind. Sometimes it's freaking impossible to tell when you see them with clothes on. I read somewhere that asking "Have you been a girl all your life?" should do the trick but I don't know, it seems weird / rude somehow. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]I have never seen anyone having any problem with the direct approach. Just ask them straight out "are you Lady-Boy". As far as the bars are concerned It is more than obvious if you walk into a Lady-Boy bar, assuming you didn't notice the ones hanging around outside were LB's.
Before anyone jumps in to correct me (H444) I know, or at least have been told, there are bars in NEP which have ladies and LB's. The point is you will only run into confusion if you decide to pick up a lady from the street, especially at the junction of Soi 4 and Sukhumvit road. I have heard many stories of people, usually drunk, getting back to their hotel and being confronted with the meat and 2 veg. The usual response is "I thought you knew". It's good that you air some of your concerns here but don't get too worried and concentrate on maximizing your enjoyment when you get here.
Regards.
BJ
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[QUOTE=Deakyo; 1353658]snip.
One more question though: What's the politest way of asking someone if they are a girl or ladyboy? This has always boggled my mind. Sometimes it's freaking impossible to tell when you see them with clothes on. I read somewhere that asking "Have you been a girl all your life?" should do the trick but I don't know, it seems weird / rude somehow. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]Not that this is the norm but on occasion they will volunteer the info before you ask. 2 short examples, both on Soi 4. I was walking past a petite quite attractive FL in a slinky black dress, on the "girls side" of the soi. As I passed directly in front she said in a deep voice "I have a dick!" I was quite surprised and laughed out loud and said so do I as I kept walking. Another FL, who I really thought was a woman, told me in the first 5 seconds that she is a he.
Sometimes I will say "you are so beautiful, are you a ladyboy?" No feelings hurt either way.
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[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1353834]Before anyone jumps in to correct me (H444) I know, or at least have been told, there are bars in NEP which have ladies and LB's. The point is you will only run into confusion if you decide to pick up a lady from the street, especially at the junction of Soi 4 and Sukhumvit road. I have heard many stories of people, usually drunk, getting back to their hotel and being confronted with the meat and 2 veg. The usual response is "I thought you knew". It's good that you air some of your concerns here but don't get too worried and concentrate on maximizing your enjoyment when you get here.
Regards.
BJ[/QUOTE]Not sure about NEP. But in Patpong bars there are both ladyboys and girls. I almost fell into the trap. A waitresss rescued me by saying if I like ladyboys.
Ofcourse NEP has exclusive ladyboy bars.
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[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1353834]I really laughed at the "love you long time " part. Reminded me of the movie Good morning Vietnem.
I really do not mean to sour your experience especially as this is only your second visit, but the reality you will discover is that everything these girls say is faked right from the word go.[/QUOTE]Hehe, don't you mean the movie Full Metal Jacket? That's where I got the line from anyway. Maybe it's a popular phrase :P Anyway, yeah I can imagine most of what they say is fake but I prefer those types of lines not being said at all. I don't mind a quiet girl in bed.
Thanks for the great response! I'm beginning to feel very ready to go now. I just have one more question:
What hotel would you recommend if I want to stay near Sukhumvit Road / Nana / Soi Cowboy area? Last time I stayed at World Inn Hotel which was pretty much across the street from Eden Club. It cost me 950 Baht / night. This time I want to try a new hotel. What I want the hotel to have is clean rooms. 24h food service, no problems / fees with bringing girls up to the room. I prefer not to pay more than 1000 Baht / night. So what are some of the hotels you have had good experiences with in the areas I mentioned?
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[QUOTE=Monte3; 1323881]Last night started off going to Titanium, nice place but like a bunch of Hi So want to be girls, a little stuffy for me. Left and went to Soi 4 looking to see if there were any hidden jewels. I'm sure there were, just not for me! Walked over to Bangkok Beat and immediately made eye contact with a sweet girl, Ning. We hit it off very well dancing and partying until about 2 am. Decided we would spend the night together but not just yet. Got a cab over to Soi 11 and hit Climax, The place was rocking. Lots of cuties all shaking it.
Closed Climax, went up Suk got a room, thats when the real fun started. She had long hair past the middle of her back, quickly I jumped in the shower and got all of the sweat off, she got in at the same time. We soaped each other up and washed off. It was a treat having one of these girls who's pussy didn't smell like a fresh can of anchovy's. In bed she was just as hot, very accommodating. She started giving my unit a through hum all the way to my ball sack, feeling the back of her throat I almost shot off before I could get in her. Propped her ass on a pillow and slowly slid inside her kissing her, sucking her tongue. When I was ready to shoot off, Pulled out and pulled her head so she could get the the full shot. Slightly jerking she wrapped her lips around the head of my unit and gently rubbed her tongue under the tip until I jizzed in her mouth and chin. I collapsed on her and we held each other until we slept.
Woke up to the sound of running water looked at my watch and noticed about 3 hours were behind me, she hopped back in bed and we had a similar round with a full shot in her pussy, what a sweetheart.
Total Damage around 2, 000 Drinks, Hotel was 2, 600, and 2, 500 for her time and company.[/QUOTE]Monte3.
You made me hot!
Can I replace that girl?
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[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1353834]When I have gone into go-go's sometimes and purely as a joke, as the girl has sat next to me I rattled off all the answers to all the questions they always ask a customer I. E "what your name","where you from","this your first time come Thailand". Most of the time it got a laugh from the girl and helped to break the ice.
BJ[/QUOTE]He he this applies also pretty much for the freelanceladies at I. E Climax. Same question and I have did your routine creating nothing else as a icebreaker. Funny. As to the opposite I have tried to act as a newbee stating this is my first time please treat me nicely (not that I am a veteran but know enough now to atleast not beeing a rookie anymore, hehe) to see if girls take advantage. But I have rarely experienced that. Sometimes they maby leave out the extra mile service (rimming, deepthroathing, CIM / COF) but that is ok. If they know you know the deal they mostly do everything. As for anal I have to say lately I have had someone denying even if I have claimed I need all services there is. Then I take back 500BHT from my imaginary bill.
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[QUOTE=Sammon; 1353848]Not sure about NEP. But in Patpong bars there are both ladyboys and girls. I almost fell into the trap. A waitresss rescued me by saying if I like ladyboys.
Ofcourse NEP has exclusive ladyboy bars.[/QUOTE]You are right on Patpong, Superpussy runs genuine girls, LB pre- and post-op, so the question must be quite direct as post-op will not answer yes to the question,"you have a dick" LOL.
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[QUOTE=Crazy4Thai;1353842]Sometimes I will say "you are so beautiful, are you a ladyboy?" No feelings hurt either way.[/QUOTE]I like this method of inquiring into a person's sex status.
[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1353834]The point is you will only run into confusion if you decide to pick up a lady from the street, especially at the junction of Soi 4 and Sukhumvit road.[/QUOTE]As a rule the LB street sex workers are on the NEP side of Soi 4 and the females are on the opposite side of the street where the Nana Hotel is.
An exception is the sidewalk adjacent to the Nana Hotel parking lot where there is often a mixed bag late in the evenings. Like 11 pm or later, perhaps.
IME I've never encountered a LB sex worker soliciting directly on the Nana Hotel parking lot area itself. Or even on the outside adjacent sidewalk in the daytime & early evenings.
The same applies to Soi 3 from the intersection at Soi 4 to the Grace Hotel, where I've encountered female Thai & "Russian" street working hookers.
I've found lower Sukhumvit from Soi 3 to 5 has a mixed bag both at day and night.
Generally the LBs are quite obvious, but will tell you if you ask, which I make it a habit to do. In one case the LB lied. I was suspicious, asked security at the hotel & he identified him as such. I've heard their I'd cards will also out them. As a last resort, if the LB makes it to your room, you can apply the visual and hand checks.
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[QUOTE=Harold444;1353670]There is a noticeable rejuvanation in the soi the good dr]s businesses are in. Too bad the girls look downright fugly.[/QUOTE]Sadly, Harold, all of us can't pull supermodels off the street like you do. You are a handsome man. Here's one for you:
[url]http://hapavoice.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/hapa100.jpg[/url]
[url]http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=harold[/url]
+and+kumar&qpvt=harold+and+kumar&FORM=IGRE
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl;1353976]Generally the LBs are quite obvious, but will tell you if you ask, which I make it a habit to do. In one case the LB lied. I was suspicious, asked security at the hotel & he identified him as such. I've heard their I'd cards will also out them. As a last resort, if the LB makes it to your room, you can apply the visual and hand checks.[/QUOTE]Once I had the experience of a SW lady kindly telling me that she was a LB just after I agreed for at ST session. That's good customer service. But I guess that what you can't see on Sukhumvit should be easily recognized inside the hotel room. BIt was on Sukhumvit around Asok.
But I wonder why so many people talk as they are almost afraid of even meeting a LB on the street. After all, with the amount of LBs around theres got to be a market for it.
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[QUOTE=Deakyo;1353850]Hehe, don't you mean the movie Full Metal Jacket? That's where I got the line from anyway.[/QUOTE]Same place I got my line I use for FL on Beach Road."[b]500 baht is all my mother allows me to spend. [/b] So 400 for you and 100 for short time room."
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[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1353976]IME I've never encountered a LB sex worker soliciting directly on the Nana Hotel parking lot area itself. Or even on the outside adjacent sidewalk in the daytime & early evenings.
The same applies to Soi 3 from the intersection at Soi 4 to the Grace Hotel, where I've encountered female Thai & "Russian" street working hookers.[/QUOTE]PP your experience must really be limited or either you are walking around with beer goggles. In front of the Nana Hotel sign there will always be at least 1 loner LB. And where the taxis park on Soi 3 from Suk down to the Grace routinely has 2 or 3 groups of them.
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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1354121]PP your experience must really be limited or either you are walking around with beer goggles. In front of the Nana Hotel sign there will always be at least 1 loner LB. And where the taxis park on Soi 3 from Suk down to the Grace routinely has 2 or 3 groups of them.[/QUOTE]How can there "always" be at least one LB in front of the Nana Hotel sign when often there is no one there at all? Have you been in LOS too long & are starting to see the ghosts that the P4P gals believe in? BTW I recently posted a video showing exactly two people dressed as ladies there one evening, probably both females. Here it is, referring to the segment 5 to 15 seconds into the film:
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7KD8xBYxiU&NR=1&feature=endscreen[/url]
Like I implied, I've never seen any street working P4P on Soi 3 except for females. I usually stick to Soi 4 & Sukhumvit for the superior quality of ladies, but if you've seen otherwise then it must be so. That would be an exception to the general rule.
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[QUOTE=Deakyo; 1353850]Hehe, don't you mean the movie Full Metal Jacket? That's where I got the line from anyway. Maybe it's a popular phrase :P Anyway, yeah I can imagine most of what they say is fake but I prefer those types of lines not being said at all. I don't mind a quiet girl in bed.
Thanks for the great response! I'm beginning to feel very ready to go now. I just have one more question:
What hotel would you recommend if I want to stay near Sukhumvit Road / Nana / Soi Cowboy area? Last time I stayed at World Inn Hotel which was pretty much across the street from Eden Club. It cost me 950 Baht / night. This time I want to try a new hotel. What I want the hotel to have is clean rooms. 24h food service, no problems / fees with bringing girls up to the room. I prefer not to pay more than 1000 Baht / night. So what are some of the hotels you have had good experiences with in the areas I mentioned?[/QUOTE]Indeed you are right, guess it is age catching up with me. I know where you are coming from with the over-the-top lines. Sometimes I get them to speak Thai in a soft voice during the act and it certainly works for me.
This will sound like I am dodging the issue of an ideal hotel but the truth is I have only stayed in 1 or 2 hotels in this area. Best suggestion I can make is to look on Agoda. I am sure this has a filter matrix on the left so you can put your budget range in etc etc. Failing this perhaps some of the other board members who have way more experience of hotels in this area could pitch in with some suggestions.
Regards.
BJ
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[QUOTE=Zahle; 1354026]I guess that what you can't see on Sukhumvit should be easily recognized inside the hotel room.
But I wonder why so many people talk as they are almost afraid of even meeting a LB on the street. After all, with the amount of LBs around theres got to be a market for it.[/QUOTE]For many, knowing this in the hotel room is quite late. For some it is not even the case of talking about LB's, so go imagine. That a market is there, there is no doubt. It might well be we have a friend interested. It is always friends who do the funny things, we always hear things through friends, LOL.