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This one could be your funniest one yet
[QUOTE=Canada;3065476]Yes all the things you don't like about Trump but facts are facts. Trump is still better for Americans than Biden or Obama. There is a price to pay for world peace. Obviously you don't want to pay it. Even UK are coming around as they have just sent in a war ship to Iran to help USA.[/QUOTE]Of all your Joke Posts, this one might be your funniest one.
You do know the President before Trump pulled us out of the quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Iraq, right? Yeah, his name was Barack Obama.
And you do know the President after Trump pulled us out of the quagmire, counterproductive War of Choice in Afghanistan, right? Yeah, his name was Joe Biden.
And you further know the president between Barack Obama and Joe Biden happily presided over the quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Afghanistan over the entirety of his so-called presidency, every day, hour and minute of it and all while he was telling dumb Repub hillbillies that he could stop any war anywhere in 24 hours with a phonecall, right? Yeah, his name was Donald Trump.
FUN FACT: Have you noticed that when Trump lists the previous America-involved wars that lasted longer than his current quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Iran has lasted so far, "the Vietnam War, 19 years, WWII, five years" and so on, that he never mentions the longest one of all, the Afghanistan War? LOL. Now you know why. Because he didn't / couldn't handle the most difficult part of that quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice that the two Presidents on either side of his disastrous so-called presidency handled better than any withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side in the history of modern warfare; getting America the fuck out of it.
Of course, history will forever record that your "world peace" so-called president Trump not only didn't put an end to the longest War in America's history but he capped off his first disastrous term by pleasing his Bestest Russia Russia Russia Boyfriend Putin to no end by leading his violent, cop-attacking and killing mob of America-hating insurrectionists into bloody battle in his War of Choice Against America on American Soil in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy, the Big Prize for Trump's Russia Russia Russia Puppet-Master Putin, and assassinate a few duly-elected American officials along the way including his own Vice President, has since then bombed 8-9 countries, only happened to be playing golf as so-called president when Netanyahu finally ran out of places to bomb in Gaza so thoroughly he was taking to bombing neighboring countries by mistake, has truly ended no wars but did launch into still another quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice, this time in Iran, that will most assuredly not end with as certain and confirmed, twice by Trump himself, compliance with an effective Iran Nuclear Deal that was brokered by John Kerry and, yep here he is again, Barack Obama.
Really, of all your Joke Posts, that one is probably the funniest one.
Democrat Wars, Republican Wars, and Iran!
[QUOTE=Sirioja;3065400]More than killing more than 150 Iranian young girls who were at school, this not ending war show to the whole world the ignorance of crazy Trump and his stupid team: Vance, Hesgeth, all Nobel awards for low level of brain, when total failure for USA: still mollahs, still same repression, still same unfound uranium, after spending billions, many deaths and for USA and our world paying inflation because of only how Trump is just a stupid guy following his war criminal Netanyahou who makes his business with war, just to avoid justice. If USA want to become MAGA, not shameful like under Trump, then only way is to get rid of Trump and his team. Never MAGA with him, just daily bullshits boring our world and lies compare to his elections program, not more. Thank him for inflation and lost jobs. When I pay gas, I think who deserve a medal to kill him.[/QUOTE]Vance, much more so than anyone else in the Trump administration, did his best to keep this war from happening.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065517]Of all your Joke Posts, this one might be your funniest one.
You do know the President before Trump pulled us out of the quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Iraq, right? Yeah, his name was Barack Obama.
And you do know the President after Trump pulled us out of the quagmire, counterproductive War of Choice in Afghanistan, right? Yeah, his name was Joe Biden.
And you further know the president between Barack Obama and Joe Biden happily presided over the quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Afghanistan over the entirety of his so-called presidency, every day, hour and minute of it and all while he was telling dumb Repub hillbillies that he could stop any war anywhere in 24 hours with a phonecall, right? Yeah, his name was Donald Trump.
FUN FACT: Have you noticed that when Trump lists the previous America-involved wars that lasted longer than his current quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Iran has lasted so far, "the Vietnam War, 19 years, WWII, five years" and so on, that he never mentions the longest one of all, the Afghanistan War? LOL. Now you know why. Because he didn't / couldn't handle the most difficult part of that quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice that the two Presidents on either side of his disastrous so-called presidency handled better than any withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side in the history of modern warfare; getting America the fuck out of it.
Of course, history will forever record that your "world peace" so-called president Trump not only didn't put an end to the longest War in America's history but he capped off his first disastrous term by pleasing his Bestest Russia Russia Russia Boyfriend Putin to no end by leading his violent, cop-attacking and killing mob of America-hating insurrectionists into bloody battle in his War of Choice Against America on American Soil in an attempt to overturn a free and fair election, overthrow American democracy, the Big Prize for Trump's Russia Russia Russia Puppet-Master Putin, and assassinate a few duly-elected American officials along the way including his own Vice President, has since then bombed 8-9 countries, only happened to be playing golf as so-called president when Netanyahu finally ran out of places to bomb in Gaza so thoroughly he was taking to bombing neighboring countries by mistake, has truly ended no wars but did launch into still another quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice, this time in Iran, that will most assuredly not end with as certain and confirmed, twice by Trump himself, compliance with an effective Iran Nuclear Deal that was brokered by John Kerry and, yep here he is again, Barack Obama.
Really, of all your Joke Posts, that one is probably the funniest one.[/QUOTE]Here are the number of American servicemen who died in various wars:
Democrat Woodrow Wilson's War: 116,516.
Democrat Franklin Delano Roosevelt's War: 405,399.
Democrat Harry Truman's War: 36,574.
Democrat Lyndon Baines Johnson's War: 58,209.
Republican George H. W. Bush's War: 382.
Republican George W. Bush's Wars: 6,821.
[B]Donald J. Trump's War: 13[/B]
Bloodthirsty Democrats!
Before you came back with Lincoln being Republican, which I thought was odd considering most in your party say 19th century Republicans would be Democrats today. Well, I'll accept that, that Lincoln's relevant. But only if you agree that Trump's a Democrat, as evidenced by his party registration in 2001 to 2009 and his enthusiasm expressed then for a wealth tax and partial birth abortion.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3065512]And why drones are just as important as nukes. I did not explain this well.
Israel's heavy reliance on seawater desalinationproviding over 80% of its domestic waterhas created a critical security vulnerability, as five major, centralized plants on the narrow coastline are high-value targets for attacks. Missiles or drones could paralyze water supplies, with damage potentially crippling the nation's economy and military readiness as of April 2026.
Unlike the distributed plants in some Gulf states, Israel's production is concentrated in a few, massive coastal facilities, making them susceptible to coordinated strikes.
The reliance on desalination for roughly 80% of drinking water makes the entire population and industrial sector vulnerable to shortages if plants are taken offline.
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So if Iran really wanted to wipe Israel off the map, they would be attacking these desalination plants. They did not do so, but they could have. The point is Iran having nukes is now a moot point which begs the question: why exactly are we at war with Iran?[/QUOTE]Interesting. So apparently the Iranians in power don't have a death wish. This is contrary to the assumption of Trump, Netanyahu and the neoconservatives that Iran might go full fledged David Koresh or Jim Jones if it had a nuclear arsenal.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3065486]This piece from Doomberg has changed my mind on Iran having a nuke.
The goal of modern propaganda is no longer to transform opinion but to arouse an active and mythical belief. " Jacques Ellul.
Just hours after the outbreak of war in Iran, we made a deliberate decision to plug into as much foreign propaganda as possible. We repurposed the all-powerful Twitter / X algorithm to identify a new list of high-signal / low-noise accounts with a pro-Iranian bent. Using a technique previously described here, we supplemented our standard approach to information-gathering with this new feed. In doing so, we were able to draw conclusions about the war's arc days before they surfaced in legacy Western media outlets.
Take the fate of the US military bases sprinkled around the Middle East, presumably built at least in part for an inevitable clash with Iran. During the first week of hostilities, our new feed was replete with shocking footage and satellite imagery that strongly indicated Iran had inflicted massive damage on these bases, far more than the Pentagon was admitting. Much of it seemed "leaked" from Chinese sources, having found its way to Twitter / X via popular Chinese social media outlets, and was mostly confirmed by Western-based satellite providers, at least before the Pentagon demanded they stop publishing it.
Because this material so mismatched what US and Israeli military leaders were reporting, we filed the information as a loose axiom in a developing mental model: Iran was outperforming expectations, a quick and decisive defeat of that country was not in the cards, and no amount of jawboning would alter events on the ground. Although, in many cases, it took several weeks, traditional news organizations slowly began to confirm what by then had become old news to us, culminating in this remarkable investigation by The Washington Post, published Wednesday:
"Iranian airstrikes have damaged or destroyed at least 228 structures or pieces of equipment at US military sites across the Middle East since the war began, hitting hangars, barracks, fuel depots, aircraft and key radar, communications and air defense equipment, according to a Washington Post analysis of satellite imagery. The amount of destruction is far larger than what has been publicly acknowledged by the US government or previously reported.
The threat of air attacks rendered some of the US bases in the region too dangerous to staff at normal levels, and commanders moved most of the personnel from these sites out of the range of Iranian fire at the start of the war, officials have said. ".
This affair drives the importance of not only casting a wide net for inbound information but also having a disciplined process to grade it for veracity. The Washington Post has historically printed many stories we find dubious, but this one revealed sources and methods beyond the standard "people familiar with the matter" trope, adding to its credibility. In other words, it rang true under our own internally developed mosaic.
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It looks like Trump made the same mistake Putin did. He believed his superior forces would overwhelm the enemy. With Putin, he thought his superior population and munitions would win out. Well, Ukraine has not only pushed Russia into a stalemate but is destroying Russian infrastructure with unmanned warfare.
At this point, the Trump administration better concede it has tried and cannot stop Iran from getting the bomb, and to be honest, given how deadly and destructive unmanned drone warfare has been, does it even matter anymore? Israel had the so called iron shield and that has failed as Israel has been getting pummeled by drones and missiles.
The worst kept secret in the world is that Israel has nukes and Iran does not. The idea was the Israelis were measured and rational, but the Iranians were crazed and out of their minds. Well, we now know that Iran has been holding back the means in which it could hurt Israel and its neighbors whereas Israel has shown no mercy to those living in Gaza.
Think about this for a minute. Iran was selling Russia drones. And now Ukraine is selling the USA and other nations drones. That is how woefully behind the times our military has been. We are still showing Top Gun versus the current reality, a base of nerds in Arizona remote flying drones. War is not being fought with aircraft carriers, submarines, and jet airplanes, and of course, that has been where we have been dumping our money.
Iran has told the USA to stuff it and even if the marines were to land in Iran, they like their Russian counterparts would be droned into the ground. At this point, all the USA can do is show it can hurt Iran and blow up their infrastructure. Great, what does that accomplish? Forget about getting the uranium now. Hell, at this point, that is fool's gold. Do you really need a nuke if you have drones?
Trump was sold this war by Netanyahu. We will blow up their leadership. Mission accomplished there. Then there was what would happen next: The people will rebel, there will be confusion in leadership; we can take their uranium, and we will suffer minimal consequences. Eh, wrong answer!
So now of course, we have the answer. The military and political leadership is lying again. Iran has done catastrophic damage and instead of admitting the mistake and turning and running. Trump and the USA are making things worse insisting that they are winning with Israel cheering them on.
I have read that the reason Netanyahu is fighting so hard is that he is afraid he will be jailed if he ends the war. I wonder if Trump feels the same way. Of all the dumb things the Dems did, the worst was raiding Trump's home and the criminal trial. Wars like this are the reason you do not go that far, but the Dems have no notion of going too far with Trump.
With Republicans, we would call Biden demented and the like, but I was like, why would you want to put this old feeble guy in jail? Who is that going to help? But the dumb Dems want Trump jailed, humiliated, and killed, and IMO that is a big reason why Trump is not backing off like he normally would have. Tucker Carlson said that when he talked to Trump that he felt Trump had no choice but to go to war.
Trump has had three assassination attempts and we still have Spidy calling him the Fuhrer practically egging on his fellow Dems to keep trying to kill Trump, and the libtards think they are the compassionate ones. Oh brother![/QUOTE]I understand that USA Servicemen were sheltering in hotel rooms in a couple of Middle Eastern countries, so they wouldn't be wiped out along with their bases.
I listened to Carlson's comments in a 2 hour interview by a NYT journalist. He appeared to believe Trump was led by a mystical or higher power to bomb Iran the second time around. That's what Carlson sensed. Carlson's a devout Christian and probably believes there's divine influence over Trump. Or maybe in this case, given his position on the Iran war, be believes evil's influencing Trump. I believe Allah has moved Trump to war with Iran preliminary to the coming out of the Mahdi and the second coming of Christ, who will both fight Israel and the Great Satan in a victorious war. Not really, but some Iranians believe that.
I believe having a nuclear arsenal is still highly desirable, even in the age of drones. When you have nukes, nobody fucks with you. Which is why you don't see Trump fucking with North Korea or Russia or militarily with China.
I agree about Netanyahu. The USA shouldn't be fighting Israel's wars.
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World Peace Trump's Mass Murder Count is Soaring!
Add these expert estimates of hundreds of thousands of deaths currently and millions and millions more deaths in the future to the millions of Trump's Mass Murder victim deaths he racked up already after one of his previous "defunding frenzy" efforts led directly to creating Trump's Pandemic.
See, unless Trump defunds these programs that have kept Americans and other people around the world alive, healthier and safer, where will his Trillions of Dollars in corporate welfare and more tax cuts for himself, his Crime Family and other billionaires come from?
The A. I. Overview:
[QUOTE] [b]How many deaths due to Trump defunding USAID?[/B]
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Estimates regarding the death toll following the Trump administration's decision to dismantle and defund USAID (United States Agency for International Development) range from hundreds of thousands in the first year to a projected 14 million by 2030.
Congressman Brad Sherman | (.gov)
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Current Estimated Deaths
As of early 2026, various independent modeling tools and research institutions have tracked the immediate human cost of the funding cuts:
762,000+ Deaths: According to the ImpactCounter dashboard (as of January 2026), over 762,000 people have died due to the USAID funding pause and subsequent cancellations.
600,000+ Deaths: A November 2025 estimate cited by the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health placed the toll at 600,000, with roughly two-thirds of those being children.
Specific Causes: According to the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP), modeled deaths include:
174,000+ from PEPFAR-related HIV/AIDS program disruptions.
164,000+ child deaths from pneumonia.
125,000+ child deaths from diarrhea.
70,000+ deaths from malaria.
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
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Long-Term Projections
If the dismantling of the agency continues, peer-reviewed studies and international organizations project a much higher cumulative toll:
14 Million by 2030: A study published in The Lancet in July 2025 forecasted that steep funding cuts could result in over 14 million additional deaths by 2030, including 4.5 million children under five.
9.4 Million by 2030: A second Lancet study updated in February 2026 lowered this projection slightly to 9.4 million additional deaths, accounting for some mitigation efforts by other donor countries.
200,000 Child Deaths Annually: Oxfam warns that 2025 could see the first rise in child mortality this century, with one child under five potentially dying every 40 seconds due to the cuts by 2030.
The Lancet
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Official Stance
Despite these estimates from top research institutions, the Trump administration has officially denied that any deaths have occurred. Secretary of State Marco Rubio testified to Congress that "no one has died" and "no children are dying on his watch" as a result of the agency's closure. However, experts note that the closure of clinics and NGOs has also disabled the infrastructure necessary to accurately track real-time mortality data in many affected regions.
Congressman Brad Sherman | (.gov)
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USAID shutdown has led to hundreds of thousands of deaths
Nov 20, 2025 The dismantling of USAID, according to models from Boston University epidemiologist Brooke Nichols, has already caused the deaths of six hundred thousand peopl...
Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
One Year After Trumps USAID Shutdown, Sherman & Meeks Lead ...
Jan 23, 2026 Yet, on January 24th, 2025, the Trump Administration abruptly shut down the lifesaving agency with a disastrous stop-work order that cut recipients around the w...
Congressman Brad Sherman | (.gov)
Evaluating the impact of two decades of USAID interventions and ... - The Lancet
Jun 30, 2025 Higher levels of USAID fundingprimarily directed toward LMICs, particularly African countrieswere associated with a 15% reduction in age-standardised all-caus...
The Lancet
What USAID did, and the effects of Trump's cuts on lifesaving aid
Jan 27, 2026 It includes specific directives as to how tax dollars must be used to support vulnerable communities around the world and restore the legacy of U.S. foreign ass...
Oxfam
Death toll from USAID cuts, withdrawal of chikungunya vaccine, funding ... - CIDRAP
Jan 21, 2026 One year after the Trump administration began its dismantling of USAID, a model that tracks the impact of USAID funding cuts on global disease prevention progra...
CIDRAP
USAID defunding could lead to 14 million deaths worldwide from ...
Jul 1, 2025 This indicates that USAID financing prevented 91.8 million all-age deaths, including 30.4 million preschool children, from 2001 to 2021, the authors said. The f...
CIDRAP
A child under five could die every forty seconds by 2030 due to U.S. ...
Jan 15, 2026 Notes to editors * From 2024 to 2025, U.S. humanitarian assistance fell from roughly $14.1 billion USD to $6.4 billion USD. (Carnegie Endowment for Peace). * Ab...
Oxfam
One year on from dismantling of USAID, study projects that global aid cuts could ...
Feb 4, 2026 Now, a new study published in The Lancet medical journal aims to quantify the human toll of those budget decisions projecting that global aid cuts could lead ...
CNN
Trump Somehow Still Spending Billions to Shut Down USAID
May 7, 2026 It could also lead to 22.9 million children under 5 losing critical nutrition, and 5.7 million women losing safe places for childbirth, according to a CNN sourc...
The New Republic
USAID Shuttered A Year Ago. Will Trumps Trade Over Aid ... - Forbes
May 10, 2026 Projections On The Health Impacts of Closing USAID. The projection is that the funding cuts could lead to more than 14 million additional deaths by 2020, includ...
Forbes
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Trump DOGE cuts caused 600000 deaths this year, fmr. USAID official says
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including its ripple effects on a program known for saving 25 million lives.
Apr 23, 2026 Newsroom | UCLA +4 Key findings regarding the impact of these cuts include: Death Toll Estimates: Independent modeling (ImpactCounter) and studies (published in...
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USAID cuts may lead to more than 14 million deaths globally, ...
Jul 2, 2025 USAID cuts may lead to more than 14 million deaths globally, including 4.5 million children under 5 by 2030, researchers say * Projections by the researchers sh...
Newsroom | UCLA
0:21The Trump administration claimed its elimination of USAID and humanitarian. [/QUOTE]Naturally, when the next Dem takes office and is saddled with cleaning up this and other colossal Repub messes of everything, the Iran War, massive business and farm failures, disastrously low if non existent jobs creation, etc, the ongoing momentum and tsunami effect from them will likely see even more deaths into that first recovery year or so, as happened with Trump's Pandemic under Biden, the Niagara Falls of GW Bush's Great Repub Recession jobs destruction and business failures handed to Obama, the Great Coolidge / Hoover Repub Depression handed to FDR and so on. The tsunami of Repub Disaster does not suddenly come to a halt and everything resets to zero at 12 Noon on January 20 at a presidential inauguration. And no Dem is either stupid enough nor thinks their supporters are stupid enough to fall for the claim that this will all be solved and over on Day One.
But try not to be moron suckers for typically pro Repub Mainstream Media when they report those ongoing ripple effects without providing ordinary logical context for them.
