American Politics

[QUOTE=Canada;3065511]Your post suggests that you are not American. Hate America and support terrorist regimes. Fortunately USA has a president to bring safety to the world.[/QUOTE]I'm not American and now boycott USA of Trump which make messe and war, no peace, in our world. Blind and not clever Americans, what are most of them, have to understand they are only less than 5% of population and never kings of our world. I support Greenland, our brothers Canadians, UK, Germany which is different than nazis if you are not ignorant, versus Trump craziness. Like I support so courageous Ukrainians versus criminal Putin, even I love Russia, but hate Putin like Trump. I don t care about Muslim religion, but I don t support Islamism which is built on ignorance, same than Trump works in USA with citizens low level and ignorance. Unbelievable, women, black and latina could vote for him, really no neurons, when he hates them. When he is involved in criminal Epstein affair. I same boycott China, not buying their products: phones, cars.

The too old, senile orange feeling asleep once again in a public meeting. Funny, USA thinking they are kings of the world, but led by a crazy marmot. Where is MAGA? Not with Trump for sure.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3065561]I'm not American and now boycott USA of Trump which make messe and war, no peace, in our world. Blind and not clever Americans, what are most of them, have to understand they are only less than 5% of population and never kings of our world. I support Greenland, our brothers Canadians, UK, Germany which is different than nazis if you are not ignorant, versus Trump craziness. Like I support so courageous Ukrainians versus criminal Putin, even I love Russia, but hate Putin like Trump. I don t care about Muslim religion, but I don t support Islamism which is built on ignorance, same than Trump works in USA with citizens low level and ignorance. Unbelievable, women, black and latina could vote for him, really no neurons, when he hates them. When he is involved in criminal Epstein affair. I same boycott China, not buying their products: phones, cars.[/QUOTE]Well I suppose then if Trump defeats Iran and eliminates a great amount of the terrorism sponsored by Iran you could change your mind. The fact that you keep bring up Epstein files when there is no wrongdoing by Trump shows you are just anti Trump. Your boycott of USA will not worry anyone. Trump has stopped 7 wars in 16 months. He will stop Ukraine war and Iran war both this year. He will achieve what no other president or leader has done. You can still hate Trump regardless if he saves the world. I don't particularly lie Trump as a person but his policies work for Americans. That is the bottom line.

[QUOTE=EihToomsfactsareTrump;3065517]Of all your Joke Posts, this one might be your funniest one.

You do know the President before Trump pulled us out of the quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Iraq, right? Yeah, his name was Barack Obama.

And you do know the President after Trump pulled us out of the quagmire, counterproductive War of Choice in Afghanistan, right? Yeah, his name was Joe Biden.

And you further know the president between Barack Obama and Joe Biden happily presided over the quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Afghanistan over the entirety of his so-called presidency, every day, hour and minute of it and all while he was telling dumb Repub hillbillies that he could stop any war anywhere in 24 hours with a phonecall, right? Yeah, his name was Donald Trump.

FUN FACT: Have you noticed that when Trump lists the previous America-involved wars that lasted longer than his current quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice in Iran has lasted so far, "the Vietnam War, 19 years, WWII, five years" and so on, that he never mentions the longest one of all, the Afghanistan War? LOL. Now you know why. Because he didn't / couldn't handle the most difficult part of that quagmire, counterproductive Repub War of Choice that the two Presidents on either side of his disastrous so-called presidency handled better than any withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side in the history of modern warfare; getting America the fuck out of it..[/QUOTE]Facts are Trump stopped 7 wars in the world in his first year. Facts are Obama and Biden poured billions of dollars to Iran which funded the terrorists worldwide and enabled Iran to develop nuclear. It isn't a joke to the countries he stopped the wars for. Only joke on this site seems to be you.

[QUOTE=Canada;3065660]Facts are Trump stopped 7 wars in the world in his first year. Facts are Obama and Biden poured billions of dollars to Iran which funded the terrorists worldwide and enabled Iran to develop nuclear. It isn't a joke to the countries he stopped the wars for. Only joke on this site seems to be you.[/QUOTE]According to Trump, what he decided to do with Iran even though there was no USA national security need to do it is "a little love tap", a "journey", an "excursion" and not a War.

So whatever those 7-8 skirmishes at most were that nobody ever heard of outside of a few people shooting off guns in some direction somewhere, they certainly could not have been anything like a wars by his own understanding of the term.

Netanyahu stopped bombing Gaza because he ran out of places to bomb there. Nothing to do with Trump. Biden had already negotiated and achieved two ceasefires and got 120+ hostages released. He negotiated the latest ceasefire in May 2024 too but Netanyahu knew if he delayed honoring that one until after the November 2024 election he might piss off enough angry Muslims against the Biden Administration in the only three swing states that mattered, PA, MI and WI, to swing some of that Community's usual Dem candidate votes to the Repub candidate, which 0.75 of a single percentage point of them did, and thereby be solely responsible for putting Trump over the Electoral College threshold to win the election.

And that is exactly what happened.

Consequently, Netanyahu's decision to delay that recent ceasefire until after the November 2024 election, which got the final 25 or so hostages released, also bought him a POTUS dumb enough to launch America into his long wished for quagmire, counterproductive Repub War in Iran.

Could you even name two of the "wars" Trump supposedly stopped without rushing to Google to find out? We know he couldn't stop a Real War, the USA War in Afghanistan, for the entirety of his first 4 long and miserable years as so-called Commander-in-Chief and so-called president of the United States of America. Oh, and we know the "war" he is most proud of having stopped was the war between "Aberbizian" and Albania because he has mentioned that one several times.

[B]Trump, 79, Forgets Name of War He Supposedly Solved.[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-79-forgets-name-war-093136839.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]President Donald Trump forgot the name of a country involved in a war he takes credit for resolving during a speech in South Korea.

The 79-year-old president struggled to pronounce Azerbaijan when discussing a peace deal he helped broker, and then didnt bother naming the second country involved, Armenia.

Trump, who is on course to be the oldest president in U.S. history, has repeatedly made gaffes while boasting about conflicts he claims to have ended in his second term. This includes frequently saying he ended a war between Azerbaijan and Albania, when he actually means the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia.
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"We saved millions and millions of lives with all of them. Azerbaijan. If you look at, if you look at, errr Trump told the crowd of CEOs while failing to recall Armenia. Just take a look at that one, he added after giving up.[/QUOTE]Is that your favorite one too?

[QUOTE=Huacho;3065535]I more or less agree with your assessment about too much credit and blame, which is true in general for presidents on most subjects. I certainly think schools needed to be closed, although the repercussions will last a long time. The interesting thing for me with COVID was living in a country where the president was a medical doctor and seeing how he handled it. Maybe the best thing he did was put the military to work building I think it was four COVID-only hospitals. He also instituted a 'color code' system where the restrictions had three levels based on the particular level of cases in each region. I think that was varied every week IIRC. One weird thing was allowing barber shops and beauty parlors to be deemed 'essential'; I didn't agree with that. But he did a better job than Dump.[/QUOTE]You live in Guatemala? The hospitals overflowed in my community, as did the morgues. They had to bring in refrigerated trailers from Fort Worth to hold all the dead bodies. It would have been great if Trump and Biden had put the military to work doing something useful, to alleviate situations like what we had, like your president did. Kind of related, Hegseth's asking for a 1. 5 trillion military budget, up 50% from last year! WTF! That extra money's not going to be put to good use, like the military budget in Guatemala was.

I disagree about the barber shops. I strapped on my KN-95 mask when I went to get my haircut, and my hairstylist had her rinky dink mask too. I felt invincible, especially after I got the vaccines. And I disagree about the schools too. They should have made those little snot nosed bastards wear N-95 masks, the right way, and beaten the hell out of them if they didn't. If China can have its 6th graders doing differential calculus, then by damn we should be able to get our kids to wear masks.

I more or less agreed with you back until at least the fall of 2020. Since then I've come to believe there were two ways to get through COVID that half assed worked. One was like China and Australia, quarantine people and severely restrict freedom of movement. Here in God's country, rural and suburban Texas, people weren't going to put up with that though. So then you default to the second way, the Swedish model. You use common sense, try to protect your old people, and get on with life.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065529]Add these expert estimates of hundreds of thousands of deaths currently and millions and millions more deaths in the future to the millions of Trump's Mass Murder victim deaths he racked up already after one of his previous "defunding frenzy" efforts led directly to creating Trump's Pandemic.

See, unless Trump defunds these programs that have kept Americans and other people around the world alive, healthier and safer, where will his Trillions of Dollars in corporate welfare and more tax cuts for himself, his Crime Family and other billionaires come from?

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Naturally, when the next Dem takes office and is saddled with cleaning up this and other colossal Repub messes of everything, the Iran War, massive business and farm failures, disastrously low if non existent jobs creation, etc, the ongoing momentum and tsunami effect from them will likely see even more deaths into that first recovery year or so, as happened with Trump's Pandemic under Biden, the Niagara Falls of GW Bush's Great Repub Recession jobs destruction and business failures handed to Obama, the Great Coolidge / Hoover Repub Depression handed to FDR and so on. The tsunami of Repub Disaster does not suddenly come to a halt and everything resets to zero at 12 Noon on January 20 at a presidential inauguration. And no Dem is either stupid enough nor thinks their supporters are stupid enough to fall for the claim that this will all be solved and over on Day One.

But try not to be moron suckers for typically pro Repub Mainstream Media when they report those ongoing ripple effects without providing ordinary logical context for them.[/QUOTE]Damn it Tooms, you're like the little boy who cried wolf. You come up with something I agree with, that the sudden and extreme cuts to USAID were a travesty, and I almost miss it, because you're compelled to mix that in with lots of anti-Republican hate speech. I think, "That's just another Tooms Republican Snuff Porn Post," and almost don't bother to read it.

[QUOTE=Canada;3065658]Well I suppose then if Trump defeats Iran and eliminates a great amount of the terrorism sponsored by Iran you could change your mind. The fact that you keep bring up Epstein files when there is no wrongdoing by Trump shows you are just anti Trump. Your boycott of USA will not worry anyone. Trump has stopped 7 wars in 16 months. He will stop Ukraine war and Iran war both this year. He will achieve what no other president or leader has done. You can still hate Trump regardless if he saves the world. I don't particularly lie Trump as a person but his policies work for Americans. That is the bottom line.[/QUOTE]Are you from Canada? Because, Trump did not serve in Vietnam; he's a draft dodger. He hasn't prevented any wars. He's very unstable and needs rest time. He's saying Venezuela will be the 51st state. How nutty is that? Did he not say he was going to buy Canada and referred to the Prime Minister as Governor.

I admired how Prime Minister Carney handled Trump at the White House when he told that he was sure that White House was not for sale so they same would be true for the nation of Canada. The New York Times has reported today that most of Iran's military equipment near the Strait Of Hormuz is still intact.

It's nonsensical to believe that airstrikes alone can topple Iran. We need to have a program for Trump supporters and sycophants to be sent to front lines for any combat missions. Let's see how your fly-by-your- ass instincts work for you in real combat.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3065690]Damn it Tooms, you're like the little boy who cried wolf. You come up with something I agree with, that the sudden and extreme cuts to USAID were a travesty, and I almost miss it, because you're compelled to mix that in with lots of anti-Republican hate speech. I think, "That's just another Tooms Republican Snuff Porn Post," and almost don't bother to read it.[/QUOTE]Citing the numbers of Americans and other people around the World that Repub Trump has Mass Murdered so far with his frenzied typical Repub defunding and removal of programs designed specifically to prevent Mass Murders and save lives, contrary to all expert warnings for him and other Repubs not to do something so dangerous and stupid, hardly constitutes "anti-Republican hate speech. " It should be so common-place to state these simple truths that even typically pro Repub Mainstream Media can not ignore them and must report them, no matter how grudgingly.

Oh look! Another Repub Trump's Liquor Cabinet member is working hard to create the next deadly, worldwide economy-destroying and hyper inflation-triggering Repub Pandemic:

[B]Experts worry 'we are not prepared' for pandemic under Trump, RFK Jr.[/B]

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2026/05/08/trump-rfk-jr-prepared-potential-pandemics/89991254007/[/URL]

[QUOTE]The A.I. Overview:

The real questions we should be asking about hantavirus and another pandemic

Experts warn that the United States is ill‑prepared for a potential pandemic as a hantavirus outbreak draws attention, criticizing recent funding cuts, the withdrawal from the WHO and changes to vaccine policy under the Trump administration and Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., while WHO officials stress the virus is not a pandemic threat.
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Infectious Diseases Society of America CEO Dr. Jeanne Marrazzo said the U.S. is not prepared for public‑health crises, citing large‑scale funding and workforce cuts to the CDC, withdrawal from the WHO, decimation of USAID and cuts to scientific research.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. ended long‑standing childhood vaccine recommendations, which experts say undermines public trust in health institutions..[/QUOTE]Yeah, yeah, we already know what the MAGA response will be; "Hey, nobody could have predicted such a thing! It's just another wild coincidence! This new deadly, worldwide economy-destroying, hyper inflation-triggering Pandemic would have happened under any president including a Dem president"!

Uh. Nope.

And typically pro Repub Mainstream Media's predictable response? "Well, that Pandemic wasn't Trump's fault. He should remind everyone what a great economy he produced before that Pandemic came out of nowhere and ruined it"!

You know, the "great" Repub Trump economy today of crap jobs creation numbers vs historically positive private-sector jobs numbers under Biden, lower GDP Growth numbers than he inherited from Biden, a higher unemployment rate than he inherited under Biden, higher grocery prices than he inherited under Biden, a higher inflation rate than he inherited under Biden, an inflation rate now exceeding the weakest wage growth in 5 years, and all with Trillions of Dollars added to his deficits with exactly zero to show for it.

[QUOTE=Canada;3065658]Well I suppose then if Trump defeats Iran and eliminates a great amount of the terrorism sponsored by Iran you could change your mind. The fact that you keep bring up Epstein files when there is no wrongdoing by Trump shows you are just anti Trump. Your boycott of USA will not worry anyone. Trump has stopped 7 wars in 16 months. He will stop Ukraine war and Iran war both this year. He will achieve what no other president or leader has done. You can still hate Trump regardless if he saves the world. I don't particularly lie Trump as a person but his policies work for Americans. That is the bottom line.[/QUOTE]Real facts are Trump is a sexual criminal. If he was not protected, he should be in jail where was Epstein, same than Netanyahou for other reason. Which 7 wars stopped your crazy senile sleeper, when he attacked Venezuela, Iran, threaten Greenland, Mexico, Canada, Germany. I don't see other than a danger for our world, who wants to rob Ukraine, Greenland, just making shame on no MAGA USA. Yes, mollahs are dangerous, but for Iranians, not USA nor my France, and your daily bullshiting Trump didn't change anything, still same mollahs and uranium, but economics now partly blocked and inflation, some Americans died and not finish now because of Trump. Now Islamists, not only from Iran, will target Americans, because of Trump and his ignorance. He lost, when he didn't know where he put hand, when he is just ignorant stupid and same for his team. Obama and Biden were much clever than him, don't make war with people who are proud to become martyr and die. US marines are not able for this ideology, they are scared to die.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3065690] I think, "That's just another Tooms Republican Snuff Porn Post," and ALMOST don't bother to read it.[/QUOTE]"Almost" 555!

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3065692]Are you from Canada? Because, Trump did not serve in Vietnam; he's a draft dodger. He hasn't prevented any wars. He's very unstable and needs rest time. He's saying Venezuela will be the 51st state. How nutty is that? Did he not say he was going to buy Canada and referred to the Prime Minister as Governor.

I admired how Prime Minister Carney handled Trump at the White House when he told that he was sure that White House was not for sale so they same would be true for the nation of Canada. The New York Times has reported today that most of Iran's military equipment near the Strait Of Hormuz is still intact.

It's nonsensical to believe that airstrikes alone can topple Iran. We need to have a program for Trump supporters and sycophants to be sent to front lines for any combat missions. Let's see how your fly-by-your- ass instincts work for you in real combat.[/QUOTE]Yes I am Canadian. Socialism is out of control here. Health care system is a joke. Taxes are ridiculous. Gas prices are $8 CDN a gallon and we have more oil than USA. Carney is a joke. He has handled the trade issue with USA terribly and may possibly ruin the Canadian economy. Canada has tariffs on everything coming into Canada from all countries and even charges tariffs between our provinces. He was elected because he was going to be tough with Trump. It was like Peewee Herman saying he was going to be tough with Hulk Hogan. Wasn't a fair fight. Still has time to be dumber than Trudeau. Canada inflation s equivalent to Biden inflation. Unfortunately Canada does not have a Trump as Prime Minister. Trump economy is best in the world right now. Canada economy one of the worse. Thank god USA didn't get Harris as president. Thank your lucky stars.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065685]According to Trump, what he decided to do with Iran even though there was no USA national security need to do it is "a little love tap", a "journey", an "excursion" and not a War.

So whatever those 7-8 skirmishes at most were that nobody ever heard of outside of a few people shooting off guns in some direction somewhere, they certainly could not have been anything like a wars by his own understanding of the term.

Netanyahu stopped bombing Gaza because he ran out of places to bomb there. Nothing to do with Trump. Biden had already negotiated and achieved two ceasefires and got 120+ hostages released. He negotiated the latest ceasefire in May 2024 too but Netanyahu knew if he delayed honoring that one until after the November 2024 election he might piss off enough angry Muslims against the Biden Administration in the only three swing states that mattered, PA, MI and WI, to swing some of that Community's usual Dem candidate votes to the Repub candidate, which 0.75 of a single percentage point of them did, and thereby be solely responsible for putting Trump over the Electoral College threshold to win the election.[/QUOTE]If you can't acknowledge that Iran terror over the USA and other countries over the past 40 years happened then you must be a huge supporter of Iran and all the worldwide terrorists. I just don't feel a terrorist supporter should be taken serious on this site with their anti American posts. You must have been in your glory when Biden and Obama sent billions of dollars to Iran over their presidency to start the Israel war ad terrorist attacks. Really shows who you are.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3065715]Real facts are Trump is a sexual criminal. If he was not protected, he should be in jail where was Epstein, same than Netanyahou for other reason. Which 7 wars stopped your crazy senile sleeper, when he attacked Venezuela, Iran, threaten Greenland, Mexico, Canada, Germany. I don't see other than a danger for our world, who wants to rob Ukraine, Greenland, just making shame on no MAGA USA. Yes, mollahs are dangerous, but for Iranians, not USA nor my France, and your daily bullshiting Trump didn't change anything, still same mollahs and uranium, but economics now partly blocked and inflation, some Americans died and not finish now because of Trump. Now Islamists, not only from Iran, will target Americans, because of Trump and his ignorance. He lost, when he didn't know where he put hand, when he is just ignorant stupid and same for his team. Obama and Biden were much clever than him, don't make war with people who are proud to become martyr and die. US marines are not able for this ideology, they are scared to die.[/QUOTE]You accuse Trump as a sexual criminal. Ok send me the proof. If you don't have any proof you shouldn't be lying about this. I guess if you assume that you can just post these lies with out proof ten we can post everyday that you are a sexual criminal. You are as much of a sexual criminal as Trump and I have the same proof you have.

[QUOTE=Canada;3065788]If you can't acknowledge that Iran terror over the USA and other countries over the past 40 years happened then you must be a huge supporter of Iran and all the worldwide terrorists. I just don't feel a terrorist supporter should be taken serious on this site with their anti American posts. You must have been in your glory when Biden and Obama sent billions of dollars to Iran over their presidency to start the Israel war ad terrorist attacks. Really shows who you are.[/QUOTE][B]Trump on Irans Multiple Violations[/B]

[URL]https://www.factcheck.org/2017/10/trump-irans-multiple-violations/[/URL]

[QUOTE]In refusing to certify the Iran nuclear deal, President Donald Trump said Iran has committed multiple violations of the agreement. But thats not the finding of the International Atomic Energy Agency.

The IAEA has issued eight reports since the agreement was implemented in January 2016, and all eight have found Iran is implementing the agreement most recently on Aug. 31.

[B]Trump himself has certified to Congress on two occasions that Iran has complied with the nuclear deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, or JCPOA. [/b]The president must issue a certification every 90 days.[/QUOTE][B]Pentagon tells Congress no sign that Iran was going to attack US first, sources say.
March 2, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pentagon-tells-congress-no-sign-that-iran-was-going-attack-us-first-sources-say-2026-03-02/[/URL]

[B]Pentagon tells Congress no intelligence showed Iran was preparing to strike before US attack
Closed-door briefings acknowledge no evidence that Tehran intended to hit US forces first, as Democrats accuse Trump of launching a war of choice.[/B]

[URL]https://www.trtworld.com/article/50386a301b64[/URL]

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[QUOTE][b]Trump's stated justification for his Iran War[/b]

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Based on reports from early 2026, President Trump justified the war with Iran by asserting the need to eliminate "imminent threats" to U.S. forces, allies, and to prevent Tehran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Trump claimed the strikes were proactive measures to destroy Iran's ballistic missile program, navy, and military capabilities to achieve peace in the region.

BBC
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Key justifications and stated objectives included:
Imminent Threats: Trump argued Iran was planning attacks, stating, "If we didn't do it, they (Iran) were going to attack first".
Nuclear Prevention: A primary goal was to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons, with This article from Time noting Trump's focus on dismantling nuclear facilities following joint U.S.-Israel strikes.
Military Destruction: Trump stated the goal was to "destroy Iran's Navy" and "missiles capable of reaching our beautiful America".
Regime Change/Support for Protesters: Trump encouraged Iranian protesters to take control of their government, claiming the U.S. was providing "overwhelming strength and devastating force" to aid their freedom.
Preemptive Strike: Officials noted the action was taken to preempt Iranian attacks, with This YouTube video indicating the administration claimed Iran had been "killing Americans" for decades.

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The administrations messaging, as reported by NPR, often claimed Iran's military was "decimated," while some reports noted a goal of fostering regional stability by weakening Iran's influence.

NPR
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How Trump's stated reasons, goals and timeline for Iran war have shifted - Reuters
But whatever the time is, it's okay. Whatever it takes," Trump said at the White House. In a social media post, Trump said there was a "virtually unlimited supp...


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Six key lines from Trump's statement on Iran strikes - BBC
Feb 28, 2569 BE "Our objective is to defend the American people by eliminating imminent threats from the Iranian regime, a vicious group of very hard, terrible people. Its mena...

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How Trump is trying to justify the Iran war


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What the Trump administration says about why it went to war with Iran
Mar 7, 2026 BE "Missiles capable of reaching our beautiful America" ... One of the more consistent rationales the White House has given for launching strikes is that Iran was ...

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How Trumps Iran war objectives have shifted over time - NPR
Mar 25, 2026 BE Peace. When he launched the war, Trump emphasized that the bombing would continue uninterrupted "as long as necessary to achieve our objective of PEACE THROUGHO...

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Read Trump's full statement on Iran attacks | PBS News
Feb 28, 2569 BE To the members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard, the armed forces and all of the police, I say tonight that you must lay down your weapons and have complete i...

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Rationale for the 2026 Iran war - Wikipedia
President Donald Trump has stated the goals of the war were to destroy Iran's ballistic missiles, eliminate their navy, prevent them from acquiring nuclear weap...

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Trump Says Cease-Fire With Iran on 'Life Support' After Rejecting Tehrans Response
May 12, 2569 BE U.S. and Israel's core focus: Iran's nuclear capabilities. The dispute over Iran's nuclear capabilities lies at the center of the current impasse in Washington ...

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Why is Trump claiming the U.S. won the war with Iran?[/QUOTE]Nope. There is no official statement about Iran "sponsoring terror" other than the non specific claim that Iran has been killing Americans for years. But not nearly as many as Trump's decisions in 2019 and 2020 did, of course.

Obama and Biden returned Iran's own money to them because, as Trump himself confirmed twice, they were behaving properly, like good boys and girls, and in complete compliance with the highly effective Iran Nuclear Deal that Trump tore up and, say it with me, "defunded and removed" the inspectors right after he confirmed they were in compliance, thereby allowing Iran to do anything it damn well pleased over the past 9 years.

That move by Trump has proven to be a lot more expensive in lives and American dollars than all the Billions returned to Iran by all the presidents before Trump.

[QUOTE][b]Factcheck: Obama and Biden sent billions to Iran?[/b]

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Yes, the Obama and Biden administrations released billions of dollars in Iranian funds that were previously frozen by U.S. sanctions, totaling an estimated $17.6 billion. These were not taxpayer-funded gifts but Iranian assets released as part of settlements or hostage deals.

Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation
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Key Facts on Fund Releases:
Obama Administration ($1.7 Billion): In 2016, the Obama administration paid $1.7 billion in cash (comprising $400 million in principal and $1.3 billion in interest) to settle a failed pre-1979 arms deal. The payment coincided with the release of American prisoners, leading to accusations of a "ransom" payment.
Biden Administration ($16 Billion): The Biden administration made about $16 billion in previously frozen funds accessible to Iran. This included $10 billion in Iraqi electricity payments and $6 billion in a hostage deal aimed at humanitarian transactions.

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PBS NewsHour
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Key Context:
Nature of Funds: The funds were Iranian assets held in foreign banks or in the U.S. that were frozen due to sanctions.
Purpose: The releases were linked to complex negotiations, including the 2015 Iran nuclear deal (JCPOA) and prisoner swaps.
Controversy: Critics, primarily Republican lawmakers, argue these funds strengthened Iran, a state sponsor of terrorism, while the administrations maintained the payments were lawful settlements.

Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation
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Iran Nuclear Deal: Correcting Misconceptions
The Facts: The money that Iran receives from complying with the agreement is not a direct payment from the U.S. government. Instead, the funds are Iranian forei...

Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation
Biden Handed Over $16 Billion to Iran - Congressman Brian Mast
Washington loves mincing words. About two months ago, President Biden agreed to hand over $6 BILLION as a part of a hostage deal with Tehran. Shortly after, Ham...

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Yes, Barack Obama paid Iran $1.7 billion in cash. But here is the full story ...
Yes, both the Obama and Biden administrations [b]released billions of dollars in Iranian funds that had been frozen by U.S. sanctions, but these actions were struc...[/b]
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Fact check: How much money did Obama and Biden send to Iran? What to know.

In total, the Biden administration made $16 billion accessible to Iran. Thus, combined, the Biden administration and the Obama administration made combined $17.[/QUOTE]See, that was part of the deal in order to get Iran to fully comply with the Nuclear Agreement, which all three presidents since that deal was made confirmed multiple times that they were indeed in compliance with it, rather than, you know, stupidly plunge America into another quagmire, counterproductive War of Choice in the Middle East where the first thing everyine knew Iran would do is shutdown, control the Strait of Hormuz and throw the World into another historic global Repub economic disaster.