Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2788741] Met Frisky Frank as well, he's another credit to our hobby.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the kind words and I'm so glad you enjoyed Bogota while you were here. I love hearing positive reports about Bogota, because I have a hard time understanding how anyone couldn't love this place. There's something for everyone here, it's just a matter of finding it when you visit.

[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2788741]Just got back from a week in Bogota. It was great. Started off with a Woodman tour of Santa Fe, definitely helpful to get the lay of the land. Met Frisky Frank as well, he's another credit to our hobby. To be clear, I am a bargain basement hobbyist. I just want to session with as many cute chicas as I can when I get a chance to hobby, for as low as the going rate gets. Which in Bogota was 40-50 k. I do not want to get to know the chicas (my Spanish is lousy anyway), I don't want a GFE (can get that at home), and I don't mind feeling like I need a shower when I leave the bedroom, I just go back to my room and take a shower. To add my 2 cents to the discussion, I think that Santa Fe is as good as any place in the world for mongering, taking quantity, quality and price into account. And besides the mongering, there is good sightseeing/museums, much more so than MDE or most other good mongering locations. I've been most places in South and Central America, as well as Athens, Greece, and Bogota beats them all. The Santa Fe street walkers come in all sizes, ages and colors, and many of them are 7's or 8's. And the going rate, including the room, is 50 k. One weeknight for some reason, the first 2 I approached asked for 60 K, but when I walked away, ran after me saying Cinquenta. Even to me, 10 k ($2. 20) isn't a big deal, but I don't like being taken advantage of, so I kept walking. There is always another cute chica in Santa Fe. I can't see how anything bad could happen to someone as long as you stay on the main streets, there is so much activity on the streets, as well as a decent police presence, as long as you don't act and look like a gringo tourist, there is nothing to worry about. I was out as late as 11 PM, but usually earlier, and had a great choice as early as noon. I never tried the Santa Fe clubs, I was happy with the SWs. I also went to some of the brothels / casas in the central map (on WorldTravelers map, in Bogota lists). Both Rosquillas, La Bonita and Casa Verde all had nice choices. The current going rate is 35 k for a "rato", about 20 minutes, and is posted in most locations..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report and current pricing. How would you compare Medellin Centro and Bogota SF SWs, in terms of number of girls?

Also, what's your opinion on Santa Fe short-time hotel rooms you've tried?

I did a lot of read on the topic, but I could use some more specific answers, if some of you can please give some advice.

I read a lot of mongers getting drugged, but I do not plan to bring any street walkers back to my hotel.

Somehow I'm getting way more matches on Tinder in Bogota than I ever had anywhere else, and not sure if this is a red flag. Doesn't seem realistic. Too good to be true.

Regarding meeting girls on Tinder, not the ones who obviously have fake photos or when you notice something is off, but like an average cute random girl. What are the risks here? If you could rate it from 1 to 10 maybe.

How would you rate the same chances with meeting girls in clubs, where as I understand there are many girls looking to give some escort service?

Same question for Colombian Cupid.

What are the best escorts agencies? I am guessing those are a safe choice if girls come to you. Most websites look very old, am I looking wrong or they just don't care much about modernizing them?

What would be the price for entire day or entire night girl?

I know it is hard to rate looks to someone else, but I'll say at least 7/10. For comparison, if any of you was in Barcelona in Vecinitas, I like that place a lot and you get 8+/10 in my opinion, for 70€ 30 min with GFE, kissing and CIM included.

Also, are Airbnb's mostly guest friendly or not in Bogota, should I ask directly before booking any?

Would it be better to get a good hotel? Do all hotels keep girl's ID? Is it the best that they do, this way it is safer to bring them back?

Is Viagra or something similar legal and available in pharmacies? For how much? Main reason for it is to be able to do it more often than I naturally can, but I want to avoid some potential risks, if this is not legal or without prescription.

Thanks for the report. How do you know where to take the Santa Fe SW's? Do you advise getting a room at a short stay motel in advance? My spanish is lousy as well and so I'm not keen on having long convos in broken spanish outside in that environment.

[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2788741]Just got back from a week in Bogota. It was great. Started off with a Woodman tour of Santa Fe, definitely helpful to get the lay of the land. Met Frisky Frank as well, he's another credit to our hobby. To be clear, I am a bargain basement hobbyist. I just want to session with as many cute chicas as I can when I get a chance to hobby, for as low as the going rate gets. Which in Bogota was 40-50 k. I do not want to get to know the chicas (my Spanish is lousy anyway), I don't want a GFE (can get that at home), and I don't mind feeling like I need a shower when I leave the bedroom, I just go back to my room and take a shower. To add my 2 cents to the discussion, I think that Santa Fe is as good as any place in the world for mongering, taking quantity, quality and price into account. And besides the mongering, there is good sightseeing/museums, much more so than MDE or most other good mongering locations. I've been most places in South and Central America, as well as Athens, Greece, and Bogota beats them all. The Santa Fe street walkers come in all sizes, ages and colors, and many of them are 7's or 8's. And the going rate, including the room, is 50 k. One weeknight for some reason, the first 2 I approached asked for 60 K, but when I walked away, ran after me saying Cinquenta. Even to me, 10 k ($2. 20) isn't a big deal, but I don't like being taken advantage of, so I kept walking. There is always another cute chica in Santa Fe. I can't see how anything bad could happen to someone as long as you stay on the main streets, there is so much activity on the streets, as well as a decent police presence, as long as you don't act and look like a gringo tourist, there is nothing to worry about. I was out as late as 11 PM, but usually earlier, and had a great choice as early as noon. I never tried the Santa Fe clubs, I was happy with the SWs. I also went to some of the brothels / casas in the central map (on WorldTravelers map, in Bogota lists). Both Rosquillas, La Bonita and Casa Verde all had nice choices. The current going rate is 35 k for a "rato", about 20 minutes, and is posted in most locations. If there was a mesero outside going in with me, I would give him 2 k to make him happy and have him leave me alone. I would then buy a water for 5 or 6 k (beer the same price), and then leisurely survey the chicas till I found one I liked. It was very easy to take a bus to both Santa Fe or the Central area, using the Transmilenio system. I can't wait to get back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2788797]Thanks for the report and current pricing. How would you compare Medellin Centro and Bogota SF SWs, in terms of number of girls?

Also, what's your opinion on Santa Fe short-time hotel rooms you've tried?[/QUOTE]I have not been to Meddelin in ages but there is no way it can compete with Bogota in quantity as Bogota has 8+blocks of girls in SF alone. -- In quality it is probably even but Bogota will have way more Hot SGs-.

I use most of the hotels and they are ok to good. All the clubs have rooms too.

All of the 7 SWs I sessioned with had rooms lined up. They ranged from a few feet to one block from where I approached them. The price of the room, usually posted as 10 k, was included in the 50 k rate. They pay for the room up front, so ideally you pay the SW in small bills, so she has the 10 k for the room. If not, you sometimes have the hotel cashier claiming no change, but usually not. Just try to have 10's and 20's to make it easy. And for the casa / brothels, good to have a few 5's. The rooms are on site for those. Small bills also good for tips. One other thing, a few times, I was quoted 50 k extra for BBBJ, otherwise it was covered.

[QUOTE=FlappyGilmore0;2788916]Thanks for the report. How do you know where to take the Santa Fe SW's? Do you advise getting a room at a short stay motel in advance? My spanish is lousy as well and so I'm not keen on having long convos in broken spanish outside in that environment.[/QUOTE]

I haven't been to MDE since 2018, but based on that visit, as Woodman said, numbers are higher in SF. It was incredible how many cuties on each of the blocks in the area. I really miss strolling around trying to decide who to approach. Regarding the rooms, that was always taken care of by the chica. Probably could get a room on your own and have a slightly higher level of comfort, but I was satisfied with the ones included in the 50 k rate.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2788797]Thanks for the report and current pricing. How would you compare Medellin Centro and Bogota SF SWs, in terms of number of girls?

Also, what's your opinion on Santa Fe short-time hotel rooms you've tried?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YankeeFan;2788976]I haven't been to MDE since 2018, but based on that visit, as Woodman said, numbers are higher in SF. It was incredible how many cuties on each of the blocks in the area. I really miss strolling around trying to decide who to approach. Regarding the rooms, that was always taken care of by the chica. Probably could get a room on your own and have a slightly higher level of comfort, but I was satisfied with the ones included in the 50 k rate.[/QUOTE]This is just from an old impression. Santa Fe is definitely bigger than the El Centro Medellin stroll area with more girls, but I think the density is higher in El Centro. SF the girls seem to hang in groups of 3 or 4. In El Centro, on the street behind Veracruz church, on a good day, that block can be almost solid hookers for the whole block, both sides.

However, I've never strolled SF during peak periods. SF is definitely better at night, after 8 or 9 pm. Much of the El Centro street scene disappears after 8.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2789088]This is just from an old impression. Santa Fe is definitely bigger than the El Centro Medellin stroll area with more girls, but I think the density is higher in El Centro. SF the girls seem to hang in groups of 3 or 4. In El Centro, on the street behind Veracruz church, on a good day, that block can be almost solid hookers for the whole block, both sides.

However, I've never strolled SF during peak periods(Obviously). SF is definitely better at night, after 8 or 9 pm. Much of the El Centro street scene disappears after 8.[/QUOTE]How many blocks in centro? 2-3? Compared to SF with 8+ and girls all night -- Actually many Paisa come to Bogota-- so there is that-- At peak times density is fantastic with groups of8-10+.

Also there are girls that work early morning and lunch-.

Let's not forget that there are strolls in other areas too, a big one called Premiere de Mayo and as I remember near Zona Rosa and Chapinero-.

Medellin is definatey inferior in clubs and strolls.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2789088]This is just from an old impression. Santa Fe is definitely bigger than the El Centro Medellin stroll area with more girls, but I think the density is higher in El Centro. SF the girls seem to hang in groups of 3 or 4. In El Centro, on the street behind Veracruz church, on a good day, that block can be almost solid hookers for the whole block, both sides.

However, I've never strolled SF during peak periods. SF is definitely better at night, after 8 or 9 pm. Much of the El Centro street scene disappears after 8.[/QUOTE]I think most guys experience only 1 block of the Santa Fe scene, but here it is on a map.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2789210]How many blocks in centro? 2-3? Compared to SF with 8+ and girls all night -- Actually many Paisa come to Bogota-- so there is that-- At peak times density is fantastic with groups of8-10+.

Also there are girls that work early morning and lunch-.

Let's not forget that there are strolls in other areas too, a big one called Premiere de Mayo and as I remember near Zona Rosa and Chapinero-.

Medellin is definatey inferior in clubs and strolls.[/QUOTE]Just back from a fairly long trip to both Medellin and Bogota.

I'm a street guy and have been for years.

I know the street scene well in both cities.

I speak Spanish well.

Bogota definitely has more girls available, Medellin, IMO, has much better quality.

Though I fortunately found a few keepers in Bogota, on the streets of SF, there were lots of low quality IMO.

Medellin, for me, had way better quality, on the streets anyway.

In Bogota, however, the clubs are way better. Again IMO.

Venus was my favorite club.

Always found a sexy girl in there to play with, LOL.

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2789285]Just back from a fairly long trip to both Medellin and Bogota.

I'm a street guy and have been for years.

I know the street scene well in both cities.

I speak Spanish well.

Bogota definitely has more girls available, Medellin, IMO, has much better quality.

Though I fortunately found a few keepers in Bogota, on the streets of SF, there were lots of low quality IMO.

Medellin, for me, had way better quality, on the streets anyway.

In Bogota, however, the clubs are way better. Again IMO.

Venus was my favorite club.

Always found a sexy girl in there to play with, LOL.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]You just missed me. I just landed in Bogota tonight, but I'm out again on Wednesday. Had some Delta credits I needed to use up.

The immigration line was backed up out the door and out to the middle of the 2nd conveyor. Took 1 hour 45 minutes to get through. Fortunately, they were pushing people through pretty quick.

[QUOTE=Chelovec;2788654]Hey All.

I'll be there 2/17-2/21. Do you know if there are supermarkets / liquor stores.

In the area?

Thanks All!

Stay safe.

Chel.[/QUOTE]Try exito.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2789285]Just back from a fairly long trip to both Medellin and Bogota.

I'm a street guy and have been for years.

I know the street scene well in both cities.

I speak Spanish well.

Bogota definitely has more girls available, Medellin, IMO, has much better quality.

Though I fortunately found a few keepers in Bogota, on the streets of SF, there were lots of low quality IMO.

Medellin, for me, had way better quality, on the streets anyway.

In Bogota, however, the clubs are way better. Again IMO.

Venus was my favorite club.

Always found a sexy girl in there to play with, LOL.

Enjoy![/QUOTE]Why Bother with Bogota? You seem to be here often, LOL.

[QUOTE=SkinnyGallo;2789451]Try éxito.[/QUOTE]Fuck me, that's a dodgy area. Friend of mine got stabbed a while back around there.

Plenty of shops closer. Just walk north not south.

Was out last night. The clubs were fairly tame though when I had decided to call it a night I walked past Antones and of all places it seemed to be going off in there with a lot of people visible from the street. Troya was good as usual. Got a couple of dances and received a mouthful of pussy which to my surprise she let me lick. Nothing that peaked my interest except for one girl, tall and a great body but she couldn't walk straight and seemed out of it. In my beginning days I always thought those would be the best but after a number of bad experiences of either the girl throwing up, passing out or becoming belligerent in the room, I tend to steer clear of obvious high / v drunk ones. The beer, long travel day and altitude had me feeling a bit off so I decided to call it a night.

The streets though. Damn. There were cuter girls on the streets last night IMO. A lot of young, slim cuties with great bodies. There was a particular group of 3 that looked amazing but they were with guys and wasn't exactly clear if they were BF / GF or if it was sg's talking with friends. Bring Valentine's Day night there seemed to be more than usual of that and I'm guessing that coupled with a Tuesday meant the club scene wasn't as good as some other nights. Decided to not get in the middle of the girls and guys and ask though I circled twice to see if they broke off but unfortunately they didn't.

Back to the hotel and literally passed out on the bed I was so tired. Feel great today so can't wait to get back down there. Damn I love this place.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2789512]Why Bother with Bogota? You seem to be here often, LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't take offense Woodman. I just call it like I see it thru my eyes.

I know you run a business and tout Bogota as the greatest ever for a reason.

That's ok.

I've been at this, in Colombia, for a long time and I know what I'm doing and obviously form my own opinions.

I fly to Bogota towards the end of my trip to hang out a few days.

I do like it there. I had fun. I just believe the street girls are of higher quality in Medellin.

Just my opinion.

From Bogota I can fly direct to Brazil or NY or Miami or wherever I decide to go.

That's really why i end up there.

Though like I said, I do enjoy it as well, and there are certainly some aspects of Bogota that I like better than Medellin.

What's up board. Heading to my 5th trip to Colombia but first in Bogota. I got most of the information I need from the board so thanks for that. One thing I can't find is threesome action. Anybody know where I can get a good quality threesome with bbj.

Anyone been recently? Had a few fun sessions there.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2789918]Don't take offense Woodman. I just call it like I see it thru my eyes.

I know you run a business and tout Bogota as the greatest ever for a reason.

That's ok.

I've been at this, in Colombia, for a long time and I know what I'm doing and obviously form my own opinions.

I fly to Bogota towards the end of my trip to hang out a few days.

I do like it there. I had fun. I just believe the street girls are of higher quality in Medellin.

Just my opinion.
[/QUOTE]I asked my gal about the Medellin / Bogota difference, and I was surprised at how much we saw the same thing. Medellin has Bogota beat on the weather, traffic, pollution, and IMO the beauty of the women. Bogota has to more to offer as a city because of it size, but her biggest difference (and mine) were the quality of the people. She said people in Medellin were more image conscious, stuck up, shallow, and materialistic.

So if you want to bang a lot of hot strange, then Medellin wins. However, if you want to bang a lot of good looking but friendlier women, Bogota wins. And if you are looking for a sugar baby, GF, or wife, Bogota wins as well. I guess if you are looking for looks over trustworthiness in a sugar baby, I would give Medellin the edge there too.

And when I say sugar baby, I mean women you hang out with and bang on multiple occasions. Do not do anything other than pay per meet until you really, really get to know her, and that means preferably years of knowing her.

Was in Bogota in November and met Woodman09. It was great to get his tour for my first time in Bogota and Colombia. Helped with the nerves and the feel of how it all worked. Hung out for a while afterwards.

Highly recommended for first timers in Bogota!

[QUOTE=CkNice11;2790085]What's up board. Heading to my 5th trip to Colombia but first in Bogota. I got most of the information I need from the board so thanks for that. One thing I can't find is threesome action. Anybody know where I can get a good quality threesome with bbj.[/QUOTE]I asked Sofia about that a while back and she said threesomes are, surprisingly, not often requested but she'd be up fpr it.

BBBJ is a bit hit and miss. My then GF got me a couple of girls for my birthday one year just by phoning round the agencies. My previous main squeeze down in SF used to open the condom and make it look used after CIM as she'd get shit from the house otherwise. Maybe ask the mama san about threeway but the girls direct about BBBJ?

If you visit Sofia, tell her she was recommended. She'd get a kick out of that!

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;2789545]Fuck me, that's a dodgy area. Friend of mine got stabbed a while back around there.

Plenty of shops closer. Just walk north not south.[/QUOTE]This is not a dodgy area. CRA 7 is the main tourist through fair. It is closed off to automobile traffic and is used by pedestrians and bicyclists. In fact every time I'm in Bogota I go eat at SBA Broasters right there on Cra 7 and Calle 22 (excellent fried chicken there) and I have never once had a problem over there.

Now the areas where the street girls work over on the other side of Avenida Caracas yes that is a dodgy area, but a little common sense and street smarts go a long way.

Gabacho.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2790766]This is not a dodgy area. CRA 7 is the main tourist through fair. It is closed off to automobile traffic and is used by pedestrians and bicyclists. In fact every time I'm in Bogota I go eat at SBA Broasters right there on Cra 7 and Calle 22 (excellent fried chicken there) and I have never once had a problem over there.

Now the areas where the street girls work over on the other side of Avenida Caracas yes that is a dodgy area, but a little common sense and street smarts go a long way.

Gabacho.[/QUOTE]Try Chix Broster on Calle 22 and CR16 a. Really good always busy-- it's take out only.

I've been in Bogota for over a month now, so thought I'd write a report about SF. For the most part I've had to figure stuff out from just walking through the streets at different times and talking to people. But also got a lot of info from the forum about locations.

North and South Strolls:

Went during a bunch of different times. Personal preference is to go between 3-6 pm. There's a lot of girls out without the super-crowded spaces that you get when you go between 7-9 pm (arguably there are more girls during the evening / night, but it seems like a lot get busy). I don't go to the south stroll past 7 pm. I've found that while there's a lot of girls there, you don't get quite the same quality. My personal preference is for the houses along carrera 15. Prices for the north stroll seem to be regularly 50 k while on the south there are girls that agree to 40 k.

One thing I've been wary about is girls that aren't part of a casa. For girls around carrera 15/ calle 22 I read it's usually they don't have ID. But in some other places I kind of assume there's a reason, like drugs, why they can't join a casa. Total guess, so someone else can clue me in here.

Clubs:

For all the time I've spent here, I haven't really checked out that many of the clubs. In the beginning I went to Troya a bunch. Was a fan and got prices listed between 80-100 k. Went during basically every possible time of the day / night but it never seems to be that busy? Still a lot better than Paisas. That place is basically always empty. Atunes is supposedly a solid day club but never went (or seen it). Texas only went once and felt kind of claustrophobic (so much fog). There's Atares or whatever it's called on the corner of 24/16 a. That place seems to get crowded at night but never spent a lot of time there.

Then there's Fiebre and Venus. These two places seem to be the most popular by far, with each one having a very different vibe / crowd. First two times I went to Fiebre around 8-9 pm and saw there were only like 4-5 girls and thought it was just a dead club. Totally wrong about that. Went once during a weekday around 11 pm and it was actually jam packed. Now I've been to Fiebre the most, and in my opinion it has the most attractive girls. I've been quoted between 120 k-150 k for the girls I asked, and most of them that say 150 k agree to 120 k.

Originally I thought 120 k was more of a gringo price, but was told by some locals about the same quote from the same girls. I heard 100 k is more of the norm? But I haven't seen it. A bottle / table costs 100 k. I'm sure there's different drinks / prices, but this was a while ago so I don't remember what was ordered. Had a few bad experiences in Fiebre but for the most part they're good.

For Venus, I actually haven't spent that much time in there. Generally seems to be a younger crowd (girls + guys). Have only been there past 11 pm when it's crowded so don't know what it's like earlier.

Safety:

So when I first landed in Colombia I basically never went out past around 7 pm. Slowly got more comfortable going out, especially with Santa Fe. I think I slowly got a bit too comfortable. Walked to, around, and back from Santa Fe at 1 am. By myself. Definitely a really dumb decision. Nothing happened but the streets are definitely spookier when they're empty. During the day time I find it's basically fine, and I'm usually OK with walking around until 9 or 10 pm. Past that have always opted to take an Uber. But think you generally need to always be mindful. Was told to avoid some of the smaller clubs. Example heard that someone got drugged and robbed in Dubai Club. Don't know details so you can treat that as unverified rumour.

Arrived Tuesday night and leaving today. Apart from my phone being pickpocketed and me wasting a night that I had planned to spend at the clubs I had a Great trip. Going to try to make this not too long.

Safety is always a huge concern for people that come on here wondering about Bogota so I'm going to start on this again. I've mentioned it in previous posts I've done but I honestly feel safety is in your perception of being threatened. I'm from the NYC area so everyday I'm around a lot of people, some down and out on their luck, homeless, mentally ill, etc. It's kinda what you get for living in a massively populated city. Bogota is colombias massive populous city so with it you get that same mix of problems. I never felt threatened. I repeat for everyone that needs to hear it again. I never felt threatened. Now I will say that if you're visiting Bogota from say a small Texas town or smaller city where you are not visibly seeing this part of your city and perhaps interacting with it you are going to feel sometimes slightly on edge as all this stuff is out of your normal. So as in all large cities be aware of your surroundings and what you are carrying with you and you'll be fine. Specifically for my pickpocketing incident I let my guard down. The last time I had been pickpocketed was the exact same situation in Mexico City. For this I was Getting onto the transmillenio at Calle 26 as I was too lazy to walk down to Calle 22 from hotel ibis. You will notice that Colombians have a strange habit of not moving out of the way of the doors if it's not the bus they want so it causes a bottleneck as people try to squeeze through small gaps to get on and off the bus and pickpockets use that to their advantage. My stupid fault was that I had my phone and wallet in each one of my Jean pockets and I couldn't necessarily put hands in both my pockets while pushing into the bus. 4 or 5 guys pushed past me through the small gap of people not moving waiting for the other bus and that's when one of them grabbed my phone from my pocket. I knew straight away but the doors of the bus had already closed and even if I could get out I didn't know which of the guys it was. After this I was more attentive. I wore a collared shirt that specifically has those shirt pockets so that I could put my phone in it as well as my "banging" cash with a sweater on covering it. My Jean pocket had a couple of rubbers and small change for drinks and honestly if someone was going to get that then it's a small price to pay than my phone and larger sum of money.

Couple of others have already posted but the guy that mentioned his friend was stabbed near the exito then sorry for your friend but in all reality that areas great fun to just walk down. If you're staying at the ibis or tequandema then just walk down carrera 7 all the way. The road is closed just past the highway and it becomes a walking / cycling street. You'll eventually end up in Candeleria and plaza bolivar. It's most fun on the weekend when the markets are much larger. Across from exito is a coffee shop that sells a bunch of old vinyl records that you could spend some time in. Also right next to there are some other vinyl shops in a small "mall" type building. In addition if you were looking for something to do and you can rent a bike then do it on Sunday when Carrera 7 is closed for a long way and cyclists are out and about. If you're into coffee then stop at Jaguar coffee just off Carrera 7 and experience some great coffee experiences for a farm to table coffee house. Others have said about the chicken. For some reason there's literally a ton of fire grilled chicken places down the road.

Also if you're staying at the Ibis just walk up the hill and turn left on Carrera 5 down to La perserverncia market. It's become popular now because of the Netflix series but the food there is great. Basically about 10-15 vendors all selling their food in a small hall eating space. It gets busy at lunch but show up before 11:30 or after 1:30 and you usually don't wait. Even if you don't the wait isn't long. About 10 minutes.

Anyways enough on the sights. Onto the girls. Tuesday I already put in a previous post. Wednesday got my phone pickpocketed late afternoon so unfortunately had to cut that night off as I went looking for a used iPhone and doing all the find my phone shit, transferring, etc.

Thursday-visited all the clubs. Venus and antones stood out. I get the whole thing about Venus girls being kind of slutty but there's a good mix. Most are younger. There's 2 really cute brunettes girls there. Both were in high rotation. One is slim and just hot and the other is a short petite thing that has a baby face kind of look. I didn't end up getting with either one of them but got a couple of dances from 2 other little sluts. One dance for 10 k and the other for 20 k. I left Venus, checked out Troya, fiebre and paisas before deciding that tonight Antones had my kind of girls. In particular an especially thin little brunette girl. There were a couple of other "gringos" there and couldn't help but wonder if they were from the board as they were round multiple nights. One of them tried to grab her and I was thinking "shit! He's going to get her" but luckily she didn't notice and kept walking towards me and so I grabbed her. If you're on here then sorry mate I got a dance first for 20 k. If you're into thin girls like me then she was exceptional. She had a couple of scars on her leg that looked like from a surgery but nothing that took away from her cute looks and body. Once she got her pussy out and I saw how her lips between her thigh gap looked while she fingered herself, I was hooked. She quoted 100 k and up we go. I made the error of not asking for oral sin condom and I was also so hooked on her pussy that I ate her out for almost the entire 20 minutes. Could be fake but she was getting into it and let me put my finger in her ass and pussy. I fingered her pussy fast while licking her clit and my finger was starting to cream up and then the knock came. I wanted to go longer so gave her another 100 k and this time she agreed to sin condom. She kept on asking if I was healthy (which I am) and she agreed and despite being semi hard from the creamy finger fuck and eating pussy I was now hard from the BBBJ. On goes the condom and bend her over. She's so thin that I don't even need to spread her cheeks open and her entire ass and pussy is visible. Go down for another lick and then to Fucking her and she allows a finger in her ass at the same time before I pull out, take the rubber off and she goes back to BBBJ on her knees before blowing a load in her mouth. Good times, 40 minutes, hot girl and every hole fucked and all for 200 k (45-50 usd). Called it quits after that.

Friday. Again back in all the clubs. This time troya, Venus and Antones were my favorite. Got a couple of dances in Antones from some cute girls for 20 k (about 5 usd) each. Various degrees of fingering and some allow sucking on their tits and others just allow touch. Either way I'm good. Walk into paisas and it's busy but not a lot of girls. The mesero pissed me off too as I asked for a poker and I repeated it twice. They're usually 8 k but I just give the guy always 10 k so he gets a tip. But this guy walks over with a corona and before I can say no he pops it open. I hand him my 10 k and he's like "no it's cincuenta". Wtf? I know I know it's only a few dollars but it just pissed me off with his attitude. Anyways, End up in troya and meet the girl from my last trip. She was finishing but honestly guys if you have a chance to session with her she's fun. Her names Rossi. She's a short little petite cutie and always popular there. After she left in walks this tall, long haired brunette, thin hot girl. Dressed in tight jeans promoting how tiny her ass is. She has this elegant * look about her. Dance for 40 k, exceptional pussy, very tiny ass, pierced nipples and tongue and before you know it were upstairs and I'm a happy guy. 120 k, so a bit higher than usual but having that tall ass and watching those * eyes stare into mine while being fucked is priceless.

Saturday- spent the whole day walking around sightseeing so honestly was kinda lagging but back down there. Always start with a beer in troya as the girls are usually on the upper scale and it gives a good feel for the night. It was busy with nowhere to sit so after finishing the beer I walk into Antones. Not as many cuties as the night before but still fun. Head into fiebre and it seems to be the club on Saturday. It's busy. I leave as I'm not feeling the vibe and head into Venus. Lots of cute little sluts in there. One of the girls that's not really my type walks up and for me what she lacks in hotness she makes up for in always smiling and having fun so she offers me a dance for 10 k. That's less than $3 usd. Tits are shoved in my face, she's fingering herself, etc. How can you not love that! The cute baby face girl is dancing on stage as well with a butt plug in her pussy. Have a drink, enjoying the views then the baby face girl is standing next to me. I ask in my poor Spanish "how much for a dance" she says 70 k. I'm confused and ask again how much for a dance and she says 70 k. I'm sorta confused as that's expensive for a dance LOL and then she points upstairs and I think she misunderstood me and thinks I meant how much to fuck. Well kind of was expecting just a dance but damn 70 k is less than $20 usd so hell yeah. Up we go. She gets straight to business and starts fingering her pussy up close to my face while I lick her clit and I'm already ready and then she's down on her knees giving me a covered blow job. She's letting me do some thrusting with her head before I lay down and she continues. I start fingering her pussy which she's good with. Then move onto fingering her ass which she allows for a bit then stops me. No worries she's been sucking me off in between that so straight into doggy. I'm tall and my shins are ramming up into the low wooden bed and kinda hurting so try to get onto the bed which makes her sort of bend over more and get pushed up to the wall in kinda a hot way and so I'm banging ber harder watching her moan and get squashed into a corner before releasing. Good times!!

Come to Bogota!! This post ended up being long lmao!!

[QUOTE=Balboa;2789918]Don't take offense Woodman. I just call it like I see it thru my eyes.

...[/QUOTE]No offence taken-- Santa Fe holds a special place in my heart as I live very close and can always get excellent sexual fun quick and then go back to work-.

It is such a comfort in my old age-- 99 problems.

It is a matter of to each his own on the SGs-- and that is how it shall always be-.

What is special is the SF experience (SGs and clubs).

When busy you can easily see 200+ girls in one area. The clubs are fantastic. I just love when they are busy and you can go in and see 10+ naked women and then see 10+ more in another club-.

Get tired of the noise, take a break and check out the multiple streetie sweeties-- I like to bang an SG and then a clubgirl or the other way around-- or 2 SGs or 1 girl 2 or 3 times.

It's the specticle that is hard to find in the world today.

I have been running around SF for 10+years and still love it.

Just was in SF Friday and Saturday-- These guys I was with think it is the best place in the world --They had the classic SF Experience.

On another note-- they had great luck with this site [URL]https://secrethostess.com/[/URL].

I am 50, and I can only have so much sex, I need to find other things to do while in Bogota. Tour the sites, go to dinner / clubs with someone (Happy to pay for dinners/drinks)

1. Should I join a daytime tour group (How do I find one).

2. Find a tour guide, I am not gay so don't mind hanging out with another guy as long as he speaks decent English. But prefer a female.

2. Hang out where expats hangout, where?

3. Find some English-speaking girl in SA?

4. Hangout with Woodmen every night.

Many are good at traveling and site seeing by themself, but I can't; I will end up just staying in the hotel room unless I have company.

One thing I want to avoid is falling in love, this happened to me in the past in Singapore, and my 1-week trip lasted 3 months, by the time I came back to the US, I had zero money and about 15 K in CC bills. Falling in love with a girl half my age was fun.

[QUOTE=Mtljay;2791646]I am 50, and I can only have so much sex, I need to find other things to do while in Bogota. Tour the sites, go to dinner / clubs with someone (Happy to pay for dinners/drinks)

1. Should I join a daytime tour group (How do I find one).

2. Find a tour guide, I am not gay so don't mind hanging out with another guy as long as he speaks decent English. But prefer a female.

2. Hang out where expats hangout, where?

3. Find some English-speaking girl in SA?

4. Hangout with Woodmen every night.

Many are good at traveling and site seeing by themself, but I can't; I will end up just staying in the hotel room unless I have company.

One thing I want to avoid is falling in love, this happened to me in the past in Singapore, and my 1-week trip lasted 3 months, by the time I came back to the US, I had zero money and about 15 K in CC bills. Falling in love with a girl half my age was fun.[/QUOTE]Hang out with me. No danger in falling in love. I prefer to hang out with the opposite sex for cultural things, but always down to meet up, eat, and of course monger a bit sometimes too.

How long are you in Bogota?

[URL]Showaround.com[/URL] has a lot of people. I booked with a really nice girl for going shopping. Strictly platonic. But I really like her too now of course! But obviously ymwv and that's my problem and also what comes with booking an early to mid 20's girl. Or book a guy.

If you are there for more than a week or two and / or familiar with seeking mechanics. You could definitely try and meet an English speaking girl there. Many of them. Many work though.

Airbnb has meetups / events. I've heard of a person using it before.

There are also language exchange events but probably a longer term thing. I am going to start them when I get there next week.

Feel free to message me and send your what'sapp.

[QUOTE=Mtljay;2791646]I am 50, and I can only have so much sex, I need to find other things to do while in Bogota. Tour the sites, go to dinner / clubs with someone (Happy to pay for dinners/drinks)

1. Should I join a daytime tour group (How do I find one).

2. Find a tour guide, I am not gay so don't mind hanging out with another guy as long as he speaks decent English. But prefer a female.

2. Hang out where expats hangout, where?

3. Find some English-speaking girl in SA?

4. Hangout with Woodmen every night.

Many are good at traveling and site seeing by themself, but I can't; I will end up just staying in the hotel room unless I have company.

One thing I want to avoid is falling in love, this happened to me in the past in Singapore, and my 1-week trip lasted 3 months, by the time I came back to the US, I had zero money and about 15 K in CC bills. Falling in love with a girl half my age was fun.[/QUOTE]From my previous trips, I found SA girls to be great tour guides for things like museums, monserate, la candelaria etc.

Things I found useful in finding a good guide on SA:

1) English. Google translate gets really tiring if you are doing more than a quick hookup. Tips for finding English speakers. A) Just ask b) if they make spelling mistakes on English words, it's a good sign they are not using a translator c) call them via Whatsapp, many will say they speak English but can only say "Hello, how are you?" d) don't expect flawless English, just look for a grasp of the basics.

2) Average girls. I've found, the hottest girls get a lot of attention and as with anything when you do it repeatedly they follow a script. The script usually doesn't include being a tour guide. Last time I found an average girl (6/7), minimum wage receptionist that had only had a few dates in year on SA. For very little compensation (a months salary for her), she spent a few days as great guide, taking me to great local restaurants and night life, and behind closed doors she didn't know the word NO. I was having to create new fetishes on the fly. And she was so very grateful, which I find to be a refreshing attitude.

3) Just ask them to see you for 1 day, setting up further dates is usually never a problem if you like her. Have a few backups, as they are flaky, you can ghost the backups (they were probably going to flake anyway).

4) Don't fall in love! I you find yourself catching feels, tell someone, hopefully they make you feel like an idiot for it. Remember, these girls are on their best behavior, even more than regular dates. You are only seeing the very best of them, not the real them.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2791093]Arrived Tuesday night...[/QUOTE]Awesome report, too bad about the phone and true about Colombians holding their ground in public transport.

When I hardly spoke Spanish the prospect of losing translator and map was scarier to me than a financial loss, so I always brought a backup phone with me that I keep in the room.

When crowded in public transport I tend keep my hand on the phone, my main wallet in the other jeans pocket attached to the belt by a piece of durable string (detached originally from a travel neck wallet). Yes, they could still cut it, but it isn't visible at first glance and saved me couple times already. I guess one could use chain as well. That wallet can be zipped too, though my laziness gets better of me and I rarely do. It also helps ensure wallet will stay with me if I'd accidently drop it or smth.

There are also so called flip-in wallets that might help in the fight against pickpockets (like Deuter security flip-in wallet) which I use for keys, card, passport (if I have to take it out with me) and some emergency cash.

When traveling solo into unknown I usually wear money belt with some backup cash and, when particularly paranoid of being robbed at gun / knife point (so not that often), I keep some cash in a sock.

Damn, these 10 mil dances sure sound fun and having 10+ clubs next to each other must feel like a sex-amusement park.

I think I'm going to buy myself a sweater and visit Bogota sooner rather than later.

Some questions:

1. Is there any point going to the Santa Fe clubs on Cr 16 a (Venus and others) around 2:30-5 pm on weekdays or is it too early? I'm on a very early work schedule so can't party too much into the night lately.

2. Is there usually a minimum consumption in clubs or can a solo monger just come in, order a drink, take a seat & chill?

3. What are the most pedestrian dense / crowded areas near Santa Fe during daytime? I enjoy hustle and bustle of Medellin Centro and like to walk around and people-watch when in new places. Doesn't necessarily need to be a mongering spot. From google street view it seems like the area around Plaza de Bolivar and Universidad del Rosario might fit the bill and looks relatively safe.

Thinking of staying somewhere around there actually, since I like to be in the place that is lively and walkable, with some food options and shopping available. It seems like somewhere south of Estacion San Diego alongside Carrera 7 might be a good choice. North of it, around Museo Nacional de Colombia, looks nice too, though it seems a bit 'wide and spacious' with not so many shops. In general, I'm aiming for max 20-30 minute walk to Santa Fe or 15 min bus.

4. Any suggestion about other gringo-walkable, lively areas in other parts of Bogota would be appreciated as well.

5. Santa Fe short-time hotel recommendations (hot water anywhere?

[QUOTE=LostCause1;2791668]From my previous trips, I found SA girls to be great tour guides for things like museums, monserate, la candelaria etc.

Things I found useful in finding a good guide on SA:

1) English. Google translate gets really tiring if you are doing more than a quick hookup. Tips for finding English speakers. A) Just ask b) if they make spelling mistakes on English words, it's a good sign they are not using a translator c) call them via Whatsapp, many will say they speak English but can only say "Hello, how are you?" d) don't expect flawless English, just look for a grasp of the basics.

2) Average girls. I've found, the hottest girls get a lot of attention and as with anything when you do it repeatedly they follow a script. The script usually doesn't include being a tour guide. Last time I found an average girl (6/7), minimum wage receptionist that had only had a few dates in year on SA. For very little compensation (a months salary for her), she spent a few days as great guide, taking me to great local restaurants and night life, and behind closed doors she didn't know the word NO. I was having to create new fetishes on the fly. And she was so very grateful, which I find to be a refreshing attitude.

3) Just ask them to see you for 1 day, setting up further dates is usually never a problem if you like her. Have a few backups, as they are flaky, you can ghost the backups (they were probably going to flake anyway)..[/QUOTE]Online girls do not make the best tour guides because they tend to know very little about the various sights. They look pretty but if you want a good tour guide, go with people who actually do it for a living. There are free walking tours available online with guides who know their stuff and you give what you think it is worth. I have been satisfied with the free walking tours which are given by guides who speak fluent English and know the history.

[QUOTE=Mtljay;2791646]I am 50, and I can only have so much sex, I need to find other things to do while in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Me too. Reading this site, seems like the 60 and 70 year old guys are running circles around us though.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2791687]1. Is there any point going to the Santa Fe clubs on Cr 16 a (Venus and others) around 2:30-5 pm on weekdays or is it too early? I'm on a very early work schedule so can't party too much into the night lately.

2. Is there usually a minimum consumption in clubs or can a solo monger just come in, order a drink, take a seat & chill?

3. What are the most pedestrian dense / crowded areas near Santa Fe during daytime? I enjoy hustle and bustle of Medellin Centro and like to walk around and people-watch when in new places. Doesn't necessarily need to be a mongering spot. From google street view it seems like the area around Plaza de Bolivar and Universidad del Rosario might fit the bill and looks relatively safe.

Thinking of staying somewhere around there actually, since I like to be in the place that is lively and walkable, with some food options and shopping available. It seems like somewhere south of Estacion San Diego alongside Carrera 7 might be a good choice. North of it, around Museo Nacional de Colombia, looks nice too, though it seems a bit 'wide and spacious' with not so many shops. In general, I'm aiming for max 20-30 minute walk to Santa Fe or 15 min bus.

4. Any suggestion about other gringo-walkable, lively areas in other parts of Bogota would be appreciated as well.[/QUOTE]From what I experienced:

1. During daytime, everything's open after 1 or 2 PM, but the clubs are relatively empty. To say the less.

2. You can always come in, sit and chill. But well, you will not be very appreciated if you don't order a beer or something (and the beer is 3 times the usual price).

3. The carrera 7 is really a good option. But if you want my advice: very close, you have a neighborhood called La Macarena. Really nice for westerners / gringos, with good restaurants and shops. You'll feel at home and it's a 20 mn walk from Santa Fe. Be careful, it's uphill, though.

4. If you want to stay in the very center, the lowest part of Chapinero and the Parkway. But if you like cabs and uber, try upper Chapinero or Usaquen.

[QUOTE=PigSavinBoy;2791687]1. Is there any point going to the Santa Fe clubs on Cr 16 a (Venus and others) around 2:30-5 pm on weekdays or is it too early? I'm on a very early work schedule so can't party too much into the night lately.

2. Is there usually a minimum consumption in clubs or can a solo monger just come in, order a drink, take a seat & chill?

3. What are the most pedestrian dense / crowded areas near Santa Fe during daytime? I enjoy hustle and bustle of Medellin Centro and like to walk around and people-watch when in new places. Doesn't necessarily need to be a mongering spot. From google street view it seems like the area around Plaza de Bolivar and Universidad del Rosario might fit the bill and looks relatively safe.

4. Any suggestion about other gringo-walkable, lively areas in other parts of Bogota would be appreciated as well.

5. Santa Fe short-time hotel recommendations (hot water anywhere?[/QUOTE]1. Yes, you can go to the clubs at those times but ultimately I think you'll walk away disappointed and probably disgruntled about your visit. To give you an example when I went the first 2 times to Bogota I went sometimes between 4-6 pm. I was sometimes only 1 of 4-5 guys with 4-6 girls max in some places. If you can swing it and do something like 7/8-10 pm you'd have a better time. Having said that, if those early hours are the only times you can go then you may find that even though there are fewer girls and it's not really a club atmosphere one of the girls may be your type. But you also run the risk of walking in and there potentially being absolutely no one. No worries though as you just walk out. First time I did that I felt awkward but now it's happened a few times it doesn't bother me anymore. My first night here and I accidentally walked into Club Dubai at about 8 pm because I thought I was walking into paisas. Dubai is usually not busy anyways but Walk in and it's this small room with 1 girl sitting at the bar on her phone and no customers. I turn around to leave and the guy tries to convince me to stay but ultimately I leave. As long as you knew that up front then hopefully you shouldn't be disappointed if the pickings of girls in the clubs are slim. On this trip (my 3rd one here) I didn't bother visiting the clubs before 7:30 pm because of this in my previous trips.

2. No minimum. On this trip I would usually just walk into each of the clubs (Troya, paisas, fiebre, Antones, Venus, Texas) and plan that I was going to have 1 drink. Had to pace myself or switch between beer and water / Powerade. A mesero from the street will always follow you in except sometimes at Fiebre when you may end up ordering at the bar so just make sure you have 10 and 20 mil notes as a poker and water are 8-10 k. Usually by the time I finished the drink I had an idea of what girls were there and if that club was going to be a good one for the night. Every club seems to have their night. Antones was great for me on Friday whereas the next night it wasn't and fiebre and Venus were better. Also many of the girls will go back and forth between clubs so you may see a girl from Venus in paisas or a girl from Antones in troya, etc. That was one of the best parts as the clubs are right next door to each other you just end up bouncing from club to club and basically seeing almost every girl that night. On Saturday night fiebre and Antones told me I couldn't go upstairs unless I buy a bottle of liquor or sometimes if a girl couldn't dance for you in the downstairs part because it was crowded she would take you up and use on of the seats up there but you didn't have to buy anything for that apart from the dance and a drink for the girl if you wanted her to stay and talk. But in short there's no minimum. If I knew Spanish more I'the walk into more of the slower ones to say I'm just looking and then leave but I felt awkward doing that.

3. Lots of fun places but anywhere round La Candelaria and the plaza whole area, Zona T, the walk down Carrera 7 from the Ibis to plaza bolivar. Parque 93. There's a few. If you're into certain hobbies or whatever you could also look for shops. For instance I'm into vinyl record collecting and anything coffee so there's a load of vinyl.

Shops around as well as artisanal coffee places, etc.

4. Don't have any info on short term places. As far as a hotel though you'd be hard pressed to not be somewhere like Hotel Ibis Bogota Museo. There are of course a load of nicer ones further north but It's a short walk during the day and early evening hours to SF, a short walk to the Calle 26 T bus to get you straight to Calle 22, across the road from the museo nacional bus station for taking you up north to Zona T, etc, BBC brewing company a couple of blocks up, the perseverencia market, some restaurants, etc. Also many of the taxi drivers in the small yellow cabs outside the clubs knew where the ibis was or at least knew where the Museo Nacional was. I would show it to them on my google maps on my phone but could also just say Carrera 10 then turn left and they were happy.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2791822]1. Yes, you can...[/QUOTE]Man, what a great and informative response -- exactly what I was looking for (and more). Thank you DaVinci40, much oblidged.

I do enjoy the party scene so I'll be aiming to do the weekends mostly in that case but will probably pop my head in earlier midweek too, just to get the lay of the land. By now I'm used to leaving slow clubs soon after arrival, but yes, it can be awkward at times, especially when there's only a couple customers and girls and there is this kind of 'intimate' atmosphere -- your every move is being watched and all eyes on you when you stand up to leave hah.

And thanks NichoBaux as well.

Hey why'all I'm in need of a vacation ASAP. Work is killer.

I was plannng on revisiting Tijuana or Cartagena but I hear too much about price gouging and buzz killingtons lately so I'm open to new place like Bogota or Medellin. Do you guys have any preference of the 2? I've been reading the last few weeks and it seems pretty even. The thing that is convincing me is the lower prices and Colombian women.

I would usually aim for an airbnb in a nice centralized location. Is there one region (Bogota or Medellin) that is better situated without having to do Uber or taxi. I watched some videos but they only tell so much.

Want to go back to Tijuana bc all the fun is centralized and same for CTG bc I know it but I want to try new things. Flights surprisingly are similar in price so it's not a huge difference in getting there for me at least.

Anything helps tia.

[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2792149]Hey why'all I'm in need of a vacation ASAP. Work is killer.

I was plannng on revisiting Tijuana or Cartagena but I hear too much about price gouging and buzz killingtons lately so I'm open to new place like Bogota or Medellin. Do you guys have any preference of the 2? I've been reading the last few weeks and it seems pretty even. The thing that is convincing me is the lower prices and Colombian women.

I would usually aim for an airbnb in a nice centralized location. Is there one region (Bogota or Medellin) that is better situated without having to do Uber or taxi. I watched some videos but they only tell so much.

Want to go back to Tijuana bc all the fun is centralized and same for CTG bc I know it but I want to try new things. Flights surprisingly are similar in price so it's not a huge difference in getting there for me at least.

Anything helps tia.[/QUOTE]They are both large cities. Bogota greater metropolitan area over 14 million and Medellin around 5 million. Don't kill me on these numbers. Just going by memory and too lazy at the moment to look them up. The point being there are not areas where you would not be taking transportation. At least to cover the various sorts of places.

Is Click clack hotel ([URL]https://www.clickclackhotel.com/es/hoteles/colombia/bogota/clickclackbogota/[/URL]) girl friendly?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Mtljay;2792793]Is Click clack hotel ([URL]https://www.clickclackhotel.com/es/hoteles/colombia/bogota/clickclackbogota/[/URL]) girl friendly?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Haven't been in there since before covid and they are not.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2792190]They are both large cities. Bogota greater metropolitan area over 14 million and Medellin around 5 million. Don't kill me on these numbers. Just going by memory and too lazy at the moment to look them up. The point being there are not areas where you would not be taking transportation. At least to cover the various sorts of places.[/QUOTE]Medellin is around 2. 5 million and Bogota is around 9 million. Pluses and minuses to both. Bogota has a lot more options, half of the 9 million are women) weather, hands down goes to the land of 'Eternal spring' Medellin. However Bogota has finally moved out of the very rainy 2022/2023 season. My preference goes to Bogota. Medellin has become a lot more Americanized, and with it the girls have jacked up prices but all very beautiful. You will need your Spanish more in Bogota but I like being more heavily immersed in the Colombian culture. You will enjoy whichever you choose. Stay safe!

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2792868]Medellin is around 2. 5 million and Bogota is around 9 million. Pluses and minuses to both. Bogota has a lot more options, half of the 9 million are women) weather, hands down goes to the land of 'Eternal spring' Medellin. However Bogota has finally moved out of the very rainy 2022/2023 season. My preference goes to Bogota. Medellin has become a lot more Americanized, and with it the girls have jacked up prices but all very beautiful. You will need your Spanish more in Bogota but I like being more heavily immersed in the Colombian culture. You will enjoy whichever you choose. Stay safe![/QUOTE]I was talking about the greater Bogota area, or metropolitan Bogota, which (I now looked it up) is 11.5 million, and greater Medellin which is just over 4 million as of the end of 2022. In Medellin this would include Bello, and Envigado, both of which are part of Medellin as we know it. Anyway, they are large cities and you do need to get around by means of some other transportation than just walking. And Spanish would be very useful in both as you will not find a lot of English speaking outside of places that cater to tourists.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2792865]Haven't been in there since before covid and they are not.[/QUOTE]Curious. Friend used to stay there and regularly brought girls back.

I was in SF on Wednesday around 10 pm -- There were some girls on the streets-- a little slow but definately some hotties as usual-.

Most clubs were ok-- Troya was fair-- Except Fiebre was off the hook-- 32+ girls 20+ were way Nice!

Hey All.

I recently returned from Bogota and am sharing my details. I'm 65 years old and I have minimal Spanish, although I am trying like hell to learn more.

This my 2nd trip to Bogata (was there Dec 2022) and I stayed at the Hotel Tequendama. (more on that later).

Both Bogota trips were arranged through Colombian Erotic Vacations (CEV) (it Googles) and they take care of everything (girls, food, transportation, alcohol, tourist tours and "sin" tours of Santa Fe) except your airline bookings. The girls used by them are listed on the website LaCelestina. Co. The faces are obscured but once you put down a deposit, they give you access to a Telegram channel which shows faces. The girls are all 7's and above and they have a separate class called Platino, (9-10) only available through Telegram channel. In December, (26th-30th) I booked 2 girls / day for 24 hours. I found this to be a mixed blessing because the bed in the hotel was a queen mattress and I slept really badly. Most of the girls speak only Spanish, plus "English for Sex". We all coped pretty well with Google Translate. Total was $ 5100. The girls get are also on the food-plan (takeout). I can't recommend the 24 hours (can't see paying for 16 hrs of the 3 of us looking at our phones). On the other hand it was nice to be with 2 pretty tour guides who you knew you were going to bang at the hotel.

The girls were really hot, friendly and sweet, enough so that I scheduled again in February. I was getting, DFK, BBBJ (some balked for an upcharge.) , many are open to Greek and if you pay a surcharge when you have 2 girls they will go full lesbian. ($34/ girls for 2 hours). We were going a lot of 3-way deep french kissing, our tongues dancing in between. (If I was in my 20's I would have blown my load. These girls are real pretty, great bodies, and great actresses!

In Feb, I didn't go with CEV and booked my own hotel (Tequendama). I do have a trip with them to Medellin in April and I was able to sub-contract transportation with them and they handled the scheduling of the girls. This time I booked 2 girls / day but only for 5 hours (6-11 PM) (That was about $350 USD) Some nights I reduced to 2 hrs ($200 USD) and was able to offer the girls additional hours (off the clock).

A highlight of the trip was a tour of Santa Fe with Woodman! He's a great guy and does a great tour. He really took me under his wing and gave me lots of info on the clubs, SWs and restaurants.

Really liking Colombian women!! So freakin' hot.

Stay safe.

Chelovec.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;2792920]Curious. Friend used to stay there and regularly brought girls back.[/QUOTE]For a price, can't remember how much but I feel like it was high. Things often change pre covid and post covid. Best to call.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2792868]My preference goes to Bogota. Medellin has become a lot more Americanized, and with it the girls have jacked up prices but all very beautiful. You will need your Spanish more in Bogota but I like being more heavily immersed in the Colombian culture. You will enjoy whichever you choose. Stay safe![/QUOTE]Yea I hear MDE is the sex capital of the continent but I speak the language so to hear that it's less Americanized and less touristy is def a plus for me.

How are the hotels in Santa Fe region? Area seems a little sus so not sure what to think. Guest friendly are def wanted or should I aim for an airbnb. I'm open to either but I just want to be a nice walking distance from SGs bars downtown and casas.

[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2793389]Yea I hear MDE is the sex capital of the continent but I speak the language so to hear that it's less Americanized and less touristy is def a plus for me.

How are the hotels in Santa Fe region? Area seems a little sus so not sure what to think. Guest friendly are def wanted or should I aim for an airbnb. I'm open to either but I just want to be a nice walking distance from SGs bars downtown and casas.[/QUOTE]Although I met Woodman in SF years ago and I returned tp SF, I never sessioned, it just wasn't my thing. However I have been going to Bogota for over 10 years and many times. If your into places like SF, Wood is the guy to hook up with at least once so you get a crash course in that area of Bogota and you will then hit the ground running and take full advantage of your stay. PM me and I can send you my whatsapp if you want some other info on Restaurants, and areas to to visit in Chico Norte. And some other info.

Looking for recommendations for finding mature / GILF chica's in Bogota. Just looking to scratch an itch while I'm there mongering. I don't see many options on the online sites, so hoping someone has some guidance / advice. I'll be there (in Bogota) tomorrow.

Does anyone know if the Hyatt is guest friendly?

[QUOTE=Chelovec;2793303]Hey All.

I recently returned from Bogota and am sharing my details. I'm 65 years old and I have minimal Spanish, although I am trying like hell to learn more.

This my 2nd trip to Bogata (was there Dec 2022) and I stayed at the Hotel Tequendama. (more on that later).

Both Bogota trips were arranged through Colombian Erotic Vacations (CEV) (it Googles) and they take care of everything (girls, food, transportation, alcohol, tourist tours and "sin" tours of Santa Fe) except your airline bookings. The girls used by them are listed on the website LaCelestina. Co. The faces are obscured but once you put down a deposit, they give you access to a Telegram channel which shows faces. The girls are all 7's and above and they have a separate class called Platino, (9-10) only available through Telegram channel. In December, (26th-30th) I booked 2 girls / day for 24 hours. I found this to be a mixed blessing because the bed in the hotel was a queen mattress and I slept really badly. Most of the girls speak only Spanish, plus "English for Sex". We all coped pretty well with Google Translate. Total was $ 5100. The girls get are also on the food-plan (takeout). I can't recommend the 24 hours (can't see paying for 16 hrs of the 3 of us looking at our phones). On the other hand it was nice to be with 2 pretty tour guides who you knew you were going to bang at the hotel..[/QUOTE]Did I read that right? 5100 usd just for girls and you had a total of 8 girls?

[QUOTE=LuvNaturalTits;2793536]Looking for recommendations for finding mature / GILF chica's in Bogota. Just looking to scratch an itch while I'm there mongering. [b]I don't see many options on the online sites[/b], so hoping someone has some guidance / advice. I'll be there (in Bogota) tomorrow.[/QUOTE]That is because there are not many options. Come on dude. How many old ass women hookers are you really expecting to find? You better go with one of the probably two that you found online.

[QUOTE=LuvNaturalTits;2793536]Looking for recommendations for finding mature / GILF chica's in Bogota. Just looking to scratch an itch while I'm there mongering. I don't see many options on the online sites, so hoping someone has some guidance / advice. I'll be there (in Bogota) tomorrow.[/QUOTE]I've seen at least one in Santa Fe. I've also seen a few older on [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/[/URL] so if you haven't tried that site take a look.

Another option would be a swingers club. I've been to one here that had older people there too.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2793598]Did I read that right? 5100 usd just for girls and you had a total of 8 girls?[/QUOTE]Yes, but that included hotel, food and alcohol.

Made an appointment with a chicas from mileroticos for 4:30. I arrive at 4:48 because of traffic. That's the last time I make appointments close to rush hour. I arrive and she says she needs 15 minutes because she just eating. Okay, I was late to the appointment, so I'll give her some leeway. I wait 15 minutes. She's not done yet. She tells me to relax. Whatever, I got things to do. I'm not going to wait there forever. I message a second option off of mileroticos and tell her I'll be there in 10 minutes. I leave to go to my second option and arrive at the building 13 minutes later.

I message her and she tells me the room number. The lady at the front desk tells me its 10 mil to go in, girl did not make me aware that it was going to be 10 to enter the building, but its common enough and the girl looked really good in the fotos. I pay the 10 mil and go up, when I get to the door and text the girl again, I wait for 3 minutes and the door beside me opens up. The girl that walks out seems cute enough but looks nothing like the photos. She opens the door that I'm in front of and we walk inside, where she tells me that the girl I exactly want is occupied. I'm like wtf. She offers to show me other girls that are available. 3 girls present themselves, 1 of which was obviosly like 6 or 7 months pregnant. None of which I found particularly attractive. I ask if I can have my 10 mil back and she says yea, just talk to the lady at the desk. The desk lady says I went into the room. No refunds. Ultimately I was able to get my 10 mil back but there was a discussion between the front desk lady and the girl who opened the door for me about business being business.

I checked out their website [URL]https://colombiaeroticvacations.com/campaigns[/URL] . I have done vegas with cute girls, I will rank as 8 to 10 and never spent that kind of money.

[QUOTE=Chelovec;2793771]Yes, but that included hotel, food and alcohol.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chelovec;2793771]Yes, but that included hotel, food and alcohol.[/QUOTE]Is this some kind of scam or something? Sounds to me like you got took and don't even know it!

[QUOTE=Chelovec;2793303]Hey All.

I recently returned from Bogota and am sharing my details. I'm 65 years old and I have minimal Spanish, although I am trying like hell to learn more.

This my 2nd trip to Bogata (was there Dec 2022) and I stayed at the Hotel Tequendama. (more on that later).

Both Bogota trips were arranged through Colombian Erotic Vacations (CEV) (it Googles) and they take care of everything (girls, food, transportation, alcohol, tourist tours and "sin" tours of Santa Fe) except your airline bookings. The girls used by them are listed on the website LaCelestina. Co. The faces are obscured but once you put down a deposit, they give you access to a Telegram channel which shows faces. The girls are all 7's and above and they have a separate class called Platino, (9-10) only available through Telegram channel. In December, (26th-30th) I booked 2 girls / day for 24 hours. I found this to be a mixed blessing because the bed in the hotel was a queen mattress and I slept really badly. Most of the girls speak only Spanish, plus "English for Sex". We all coped pretty well with Google Translate. Total was $ 5100. The girls get are also on the food-plan (takeout). I can't recommend the 24 hours (can't see paying for 16 hrs of the 3 of us looking at our phones). On the other hand it was nice to be with 2 pretty tour guides who you knew you were going to bang at the hotel.

The girls were really hot, friendly and sweet, enough so that I scheduled again in February. I was getting, DFK, BBBJ (some balked for an upcharge.) , many are open to Greek and if you pay a surcharge when you have 2 girls they will go full lesbian. ($34/ girls for 2 hours). We were going a lot of 3-way deep french kissing, our tongues dancing in between. (If I was in my 20's I would have blown my load. These girls are real pretty, great bodies, and great actresses!

In Feb, I didn't go with CEV and booked my own hotel (Tequendama). I do have a trip with them to Medellin in April and I was able to sub-contract transportation with them and they handled the scheduling of the girls. This time I booked 2 girls / day but only for 5 hours (6-11 PM) (That was about $350 USD) Some nights I reduced to 2 hrs ($200 USD) and was able to offer the girls additional hours (off the clock).

A highlight of the trip was a tour of Santa Fe with Woodman! He's a great guy and does a great tour. He really took me under his wing and gave me lots of info on the clubs, SWs and restaurants.

Really liking Colombian women!! So freakin' hot.

Stay safe.

Chelovec.[/QUOTE]That number is going to send a lot of guys over the moon but it's your money, you had fun so who's to complain. However, with a little more knowledge of Bogota you can go to nice restaurants, have a nice hotel, and meet some beautiful women, for a fraction of that amount. The danger here is for the rest of us. The guys offering this service are recruiting the same women we are seeing and if they are getting over paid by this service is upsetting the status quo. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2794036]The danger here is for the rest of us. The guys offering this service are recruiting the same women we are seeing and if they are getting over paid by this service is upsetting the status quo. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]He said tour operators used la Celestine website. My guess is they paid the women less than what they advertise as they would qualify for volume discounts.

Chelovec, first time I went to Argentina, I used a tour operator. It was 3 X the price of what I would have done on my own. In your case, I would guess you paid 5 X what I would have travelling to Bogota on my own.

I get the tour though. You have someone to show you the ropes the first time who knows where to go and can speak the language and have the safety of a group, but I just did it that one time and just went on my own after that, and I recommend you do that as well.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2793313]For a price, can't remember how much but I feel like it was high. Things often change pre covid and post covid. Best to call.[/QUOTE]I'm staying at the Click Clack right now. I don't know if it is chica friendly (haven't asked), but you could probably sneak a girl in pretty easily. Assuming she's appropriately dressed. The elevator at the lobby level is out of service, so you when enter the lobby you have to go down the stairs to the restaurant below to catch the elevator up to the rooms. This makes it easier to bring a girl in if you go down to the restaurant and have a drink together and then just casually walk over to the elevator afterward.

I went here this morning around 10 am and they had a lineup of five girls, all bangable and a couple I'd rank as 7-8's. I chose a beautiful petite chica in her early 20's with a nice thin body. No stretch marks or baby fat. Cost was only $50 COP for 30 minutes all inclusive (massage + BBBJ + cowgirl, doggy and finished in missionary). Service was great so I tipped her an extra $20 COP after we finished. Great bang for the buck, pun intended.

[QUOTE=Mtljay;2793886]I checked out their website [URL]https://colombiaeroticvacations.com/campaigns[/URL] . I have done vegas with cute girls, I will rank as 8 to 10 and never spent that kind of money.[/QUOTE]It takes me to a google.

I had a session tonight with this Venezuelan beauty: [URL]https://photoprepagos.com/go/Ahyz-SEra[/URL].

She's even hotter in person with a nice slim body. Photos are accurate though. $100 COP for 30 minutes + $100 COP for BBBJ.

Glad I paid for the BBBJ because her head hand was superb with lots of deep throat action. Rode me reverse CG, then doggy and finished in mish with her maintaining eye contact the whole time. Highly recommend this girl.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2794063]He said tour operators used la Celestine website. My guess is they paid the women less than what they advertise as they would qualify for volume discounts.

Chelovec, first time I went to Argentina, I used a tour operator. It was 3 X the price of what I would have done on my own. In your case, I would guess you paid 5 X what I would have travelling to Bogota on my own.

I get the tour though. You have someone to show you the ropes the first time who knows where to go and can speak the language and have the safety of a group, but I just did it that one time and just went on my own after that, and I recommend you do that as well.[/QUOTE]I used a guide first time in Copa but only for a few bucks, and only once, and I didn't speak any Portuguese at the time. But for the next ten days I had a great time just me and my Wing man. Guides and agencies have a place but not to the tune of 5100. Using a guide for your first trip to a new country helps you hit the ground running but use your big head when negotiating what your willing to pay the guide.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2793633]That is because there are not many options. Come on dude. How many old ass women hookers are you really expecting to find? You better go with one of the probably two that you found online.[/QUOTE]In Brazil it wasn't difficult to find at all.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2793596]Does anyone know if the Hyatt is guest friendly?[/QUOTE]If you mean the Grand Hyatt, then yes I've heard it is, although this was a report from over 2 years ago. I'll be staying there in a few weeks so I can let you know.

[QUOTE=Jacobinss;2794227]If you mean the Grand Hyatt, then yes I've heard it is, although this was a report from over 2 years ago. I'll be staying there in a few weeks so I can let you know.[/QUOTE]Please do. Thanks.

Guys,

I've read most of the reports in the last couple of days and have a pretty good idea of what to expect, but I'm primarily only into BBFS. I fully understand the risks and touchwood haven't gotten anything yet but I feel like BBFS is very hard to come by especially for someone that speaks no Spanish. I'm not looking to cum inside anyone as I don't want kids LOL but just the action itself.

I will be coming from March 23rd till March 28th and basically want lots of BBFS action during this time frame. Any suggestions where to look? Seeking has been most successful for me at least in Canada.

[QUOTE=LuvNaturalTits;2794189]I had a session tonight with this Venezuelan beauty: [URL]https://photoprepagos.com/go/Ahyz-SEra[/URL].

She's even hotter in person with a nice slim body. Photos are accurate though. $100 COP for 30 minutes + $100 COP for BBBJ.

Glad I paid for the BBBJ because her head hand was superb with lots of deep throat action. Rode me reverse CG, then doggy and finished in mish with her maintaining eye contact the whole time. Highly recommend this girl.[/QUOTE]Does 'verified' actually mean anything on this site in Colombia? Are the services performed in the listing usually accurate?

[QUOTE=LostCause1;2794361]Does 'verified' actually mean anything on this site in Colombia? Are the services performed in the listing usually accurate?[/QUOTE]Verified means they verified the photos are accurate which, in my experience, has always been the case. If they're verified Then you're less likely to deal with an agency and get the services promised. In this case, she did everything she advertised.

[QUOTE=LuvNaturalTits;2794122]I'm staying at the Click Clack right now. I don't know if it is chica friendly (haven't asked), but you could probably sneak a girl in pretty easily. Assuming she's appropriately dressed. The elevator at the lobby level is out of service, so you when enter the lobby you have to go down the stairs to the restaurant below to catch the elevator up to the rooms. This makes it easier to bring a girl in if you go down to the restaurant and have a drink together and then just casually walk over to the elevator afterward.[/QUOTE]Doesn't the same elevator also service the top floor bars? Impossible to police, iirc.

[QUOTE=LuvNaturalTits;2794189]I had a session tonight with this Venezuelan beauty: [URL]https://photoprepagos.com/go/Ahyz-SEra[/URL].

She's even hotter in person with a nice slim body. Photos are accurate though. $100 COP for 30 minutes + $100 COP for BBBJ.

Glad I paid for the BBBJ because her head hand was superb with lots of deep throat action. Rode me reverse CG, then doggy and finished in mish with her maintaining eye contact the whole time. Highly recommend this girl.[/QUOTE]Cute. Nice find. Way too young for me though, LOL.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2793644]Another option would be a swingers club. I've been to one here that had older people there too.

Good luck.[/QUOTE]The only swingers' club I'm aware of was Viviana Santamaria's which seems not to have reopened after Christmas. You know of any others? (PM if you prefer!

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2793903]Is this some kind of scam or something? Sounds to me like you got took and don't even know it![/QUOTE]Maybe, but consider the fact I had no Spanish, not much info on the country. I suppose I paid for the piece of mind.

To have the logistics done for me. Also consider what your would pay for 2 hot chicks. For a 24 hour period.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2794063]He said tour operators used la Celestine website. My guess is they paid the women less than what they advertise as they would qualify for volume discounts.

Chelovec, first time I went to Argentina, I used a tour operator. It was 3 X the price of what I would have done on my own. In your case, I would guess you paid 5 X what I would have travelling to Bogota on my own.

I get the tour though. You have someone to show you the ropes the first time who knows where to go and can speak the language and have the safety of a group, but I just did it that one time and just went on my own after that, and I recommend you do that as well.[/QUOTE]Probably I did overpay but it was a very enjoyable, stress free time. As I become better at Spanish and more familiar with the country, I'll free better about freelancers.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2794036]That number is going to send a lot of guys over the moon but it's your money, you had fun so who's to complain. However, with a little more knowledge of Bogota you can go to nice restaurants, have a nice hotel, and meet some beautiful women, for a fraction of that amount. The danger here is for the rest of us. The guys offering this service are recruiting the same women we are seeing and if they are getting over paid by this service is upsetting the status quo. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]You got to consider where I'm coming from. 65 years old with a little Spanish and first time in any Latin American country and one with a particularly violent past.

The girls were very satisfying to me and I had the comfort that it was arranged ahead of time. Of course I look to this site for options and strategies. Would you share some?

Thanks. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=LuvNaturalTits;2794189]I had a session tonight with this Venezuelan beauty: [URL]https://photoprepagos.com/go/Ahyz-SEra[/URL].

She's even hotter in person with a nice slim body. Photos are accurate though. $100 COP for 30 minutes + $100 COP for BBBJ.

Glad I paid for the BBBJ because her head hand was superb with lots of deep throat action. Rode me reverse CG, then doggy and finished in mish with her maintaining eye contact the whole time. Highly recommend this girl.[/QUOTE]Hey thanks for the tip, I landed last night after 30 plus hours from Aus, saw this and hit her up on whatsapp for a 30 min session at mine. She wanted 300 k as advertised, I thought I'll head over and get a 90 k 30 min as I'm exhausted, turned out new rates are 100 k incall for 30 min. All good, I head over on uber, see her and she's cuter than photos and tiny with a bubble butt.

She happily jumps on and grinds me for a while then gives a great deepthroating BJ with condom. I jump on and smash in a few positions then get tired, she gets back off then inhales me again for a few before jumping back on reverse doggy. 5 min I call it as I'm too tired and won't cum immediately. Plus 100 k seems high for BBBJ if that's all I was paying but I'd hit her up for it next time I saw her if it was for an hour. Thanks for the report mate, now to find if woodman is touring tonight and how to jump on the tour.

Think I've been spending too much time in Santa Fe so figured I'd spend some time looking at other places. Went to Pussy House, turns out it moved to another location on calle 65 #13-61. In the old location there was a place called Las Divas across the road? No idea if it still exists. Anyways, PH turned out to be kind of a let-down. Girls I think were generally more attractive in SF so I left pretty fast. Didn't ask about prices but from what I understand it's about the same as SF clubs? A poker beer did cost 15 k so who knows.

Decided to also check out Lido. For all that I heard about the place, it definitely felt like a let-down. The whole place is really nice, but there wasn't much of a party atmosphere. There's definitely a lot of girls there (more than SF clubs? But few guys and lots of empty space. I was kind of expecting a place like Hong Kong in Tijuana (big party). The way that some locals described Lido, I thought I'd see mostly girls that looked like IG models. That didn't seem to be the case. I asked about prices and was told 300 k for the club and 1 m for the girl on average? I was kind of taken aback and forgot to ask if that's for taking a girl out of the club for a longer time or just a short time. A few weeks ago I remember a local mentioning it's something like 400 k for an hour with a girl. But I don't really know. A bottle of water is 50 k though.

[QUOTE=LuvNaturalTits;2794383]Verified means they verified the photos are accurate which, in my experience, has always been the case. If they're verified Then you're less likely to deal with an agency and get the services promised. In this case, she did everything she advertised.[/QUOTE]Any advice for online directories? I feel like normally I'd rely on reviews but those seem to be few and far in between. I messaged a few girls but never pulled the trigger. In other places having verified photos basically doesn't mean shit. And some of the better looking girls I just assume are fakes. As an example, for these postings:

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/teusaquillo/linda-vip-unica-por-aqui-no-se-atiende-a-cualquiera-id-c6k2t[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/usaquen/nueva-dama-de-compa%C3%B1ia-universitaria-de-trato-vip-y-muy-complaciente-id-zbvrv[/URL]

Even though they're verified it seems phony. No options but to just bite the bullet? Or any telltale signs? I didn't get anything with reverse image search.

[QUOTE=Chelovec;2794803]Maybe, but consider the fact I had no Spanish, not much info on the country. I suppose I paid for the piece of mind.

To have the logistics done for me. Also consider what your would pay for 2 hot chicks. For a 24 hour period.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't pay $5100 usd that's for damn sure. I live here (medellin not Bogota, but visit Bogota often) and stay for 3 months at a time with that much money. I just had an amanecida (all nighter) with a hot chick I've known since last year, she came around 6 pm and left around 12 noon the next day and we fucked 3 times and I paid her guess how much, 300 k COP! So you do the math and try to convince yourself that you weren't taken advantage of! Spanish or no Spanish that company is exploiting you and the women too.

[QUOTE=Chelovec;2794809]You got to consider where I'm coming from. 65 years old with a little Spanish and first time in any Latin American country and one with a particularly violent past.

The girls were very satisfying to me and I had the comfort that it was arranged ahead of time. Of course I look to this site for options and strategies. Would you share some?

Thanks. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]I don't know of any way you can unspend the money and do something different for your first time. It sounds like you enjoyed yourself and I'm guessing the money isn't going to break you. I don't see anyone complaining about what you spent offering to pay you back, so just start thinking about the next time.

There's an ideal location in Medellin for first timers with no Spanish, worried about security and finding girls. It's known as the Mansion. You can Google Hotel M Medellin to find the website. The rooms are a bit overpriced, but it's not excessive. It's a small place with a pool and a bar. During the day working girls hang out at the pool. At night working girls hang out in the bar. Many of the guests have stayed there many times.

All in one location, guides, translators, girls and a room to stay in. You could probably stay there for 3 weeks, have at least 1 girl every night and still spend under $5,000.

From there you can start building a little black book of girls and friends and get comfortable with Colombia.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2794999]Any advice for online directories? I feel like normally I'd rely on reviews but those seem to be few and far in between. I messaged a few girls but never pulled the trigger. In other places having verified photos basically doesn't mean shit. And some of the better looking girls I just assume are fakes. As an example, for these postings:

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/teusaquillo/linda-vip-unica-por-aqui-no-se-atiende-a-cualquiera-id-c6k2t[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/usaquen/nueva-dama-de-compa%C3%B1ia-universitaria-de-trato-vip-y-muy-complaciente-id-zbvrv[/URL]

Even though they're verified it seems phony. No options but to just bite the bullet? Or any telltale signs? I didn't get anything with reverse image search.[/QUOTE]You are over thinking it in my opinion. Not trying to criticize since I am sort of assuming you are trying to apply what we (and I) have done and have to deal with in the US.

I've seen maybe 25 off of photoprepagaros. Only real bad experiences have been with blurred photos. Well, and 1 time I fell for the angled photos and she was latina Shaq. Girls without blurred photos have been pretty much spot on appearance-wise. Attractive ones (which is relative, but mine is 18 to 24 year old spinner without tons of makeup) have been essentially exactly as advertised or better. It's not like the US where it's super old pictures and / or they are all drugged out.

My experience has been over half force the full time on you and make sure you have a nice time. Some are just all business but still good. Of course you will get a few that either don't click or try and get you out in like 15 minutes, but now I only do 30 minutes for a first meet and make sure to get prices for extras in whatsapp before. It's not like the us where I avoid talking specifics via text. I also always visit their apartment / incall first unless she only does outcalls. No idea if that matters, but it's just easier for me since I can better control getting there vs relying on her transportation.

I also never go with a spa posting / group posting. For those your better off just showing up to the spa or going casa hoping.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2793230]I was in SF on Wednesday around 10 pm -- There were some girls on the streets-- a little slow but definately some hotties as usual-.

Most clubs were ok-- Troya was fair-- Except Fiebre was off the hook-- 32+ girls 20+ were way Nice![/QUOTE]Good boots on the ground to my old friend Woodman and BTW I am in Santa Marta but think I need to make a stop in Bogota next week before I return home in Medellin, a nice change of pace for The Tall Man whose backyard are the paisa chicas of Medellin.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Chelovec;2794804]Probably I did overpay but it was a very enjoyable, stress free time. As I become better at Spanish and more familiar with the country, I'll free better about freelancers.[/QUOTE]$5100 for me that's around 400 hrs of shagging or 2 months of daily long time sessions.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2794999]Any advice for online directories? I feel like normally I'd rely on reviews but those seem to be few and far in between. I messaged a few girls but never pulled the trigger. In other places having verified photos basically doesn't mean shit. And some of the better looking girls I just assume are fakes. As an example, for these postings:

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/teusaquillo/linda-vip-unica-por-aqui-no-se-atiende-a-cualquiera-id-c6k2t[/URL]

[URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/usaquen/nueva-dama-de-compa%C3%B1ia-universitaria-de-trato-vip-y-muy-complaciente-id-zbvrv[/URL]

Even though they're verified it seems phony. No options but to just bite the bullet? Or any telltale signs? I didn't get anything with reverse image search.[/QUOTE]In my experience with photoprepagos they've always been the girl from the photos but I don't choose the ones who blur their face though because I don't trust it. Worst that's happened to me is one girl ended up having about 20 lbs extra weight since her photos were taken but she still delivered the services as promised.

So I had an interesting experience today. I tried to get a mileroticos girl up to my airbnb. I had explicitly asked the host if visitors were permitted and he confirmed that they are indeed allowed. So I thought everything would be fine. When I got the phone call from security, I told them to let her in, but the security team said that I had to contact my host on airbnb and give him the name and ID number of my visitor before they would let the girl into my apartment. I was a bit pissed, I had never heard of this before. I complained to my host as that was not what I was expecting when I asked if visitors were allowed. He said that he need the name of my visitor so he could register her on some migration website. This had to be done before my visitor would be allowed in. I had never heard of this before, but my host says it is new law that went into effect in December. So you can see how this would put a serious damper on our hobby if we need to register a girl with our host before she is allowed in. Imagine trying to have a girl come over late at night, then contacting your airbnb host at 2 am in the morning trying to get him to register your hooker on some migration website before you can get laid.

So has anyone else heard of this law? Or had a similar experience perhaps?

Are there any good restaurants with vegetarian options around sante fe are? First time in BOG. I will in BOG March 23-29 if anyone want to meetup for a drink.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2795267]So I had an interesting experience today. I tried to get a mileroticos girl up to my airbnb. I had explicitly asked the host if visitors were permitted and he confirmed that they are indeed allowed. So I thought everything would be fine. When I got the phone call from security, I told them to let her in, but the security team said that I had to contact my host on airbnb and give him the name and ID number of my visitor before they would let the girl into my apartment. I was a bit pissed, I had never heard of this before. I complained to my host as that was not what I was expecting when I asked if visitors were allowed. He said that he need the name of my visitor so he could register her on some migration website. This had to be done before my visitor would be allowed in. I had never heard of this before, but my host says it is new law that went into effect in December. So you can see how this would put a serious damper on our hobby if we need to register a girl with our host before she is allowed in. Imagine trying to have a girl come over late at night, then contacting your airbnb host at 2 am in the morning trying to get him to register your hooker on some migration website before you can get laid.

So has anyone else heard of this law? Or had a similar experience perhaps?[/QUOTE]I have not heard. But my experience until others report.

I booked an airbnb for March (in late Jan) in a very large building with 24/7 security and asked about guests. They said no problem and security has not even made them sign in. I do have a keycard that lets me enter on my own, but security is always there but I just walk by. My visitors are very civilian looking though. A keycard is also required for your floor in the elevator, so maybe they care a bit less for that reason.

Of all the other airbnbs I messaged the ratio of ones that required 24 hour notice or 1 hour notice vs "No" vs "No Problem" felt no different than last year.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2795267]So I had an interesting experience today. I tried to get a mileroticos girl up to my airbnb. I had explicitly asked the host if visitors were permitted and he confirmed that they are indeed allowed. So I thought everything would be fine. When I got the phone call from security, I told them to let her in, but the security team said that I had to contact my host on airbnb and give him the name and ID number of my visitor before they would let the girl into my apartment. I was a bit pissed, I had never heard of this before. I complained to my host as that was not what I was expecting when I asked if visitors were allowed. He said that he need the name of my visitor so he could register her on some migration website. This had to be done before my visitor would be allowed in. I had never heard of this before, but my host says it is new law that went into effect in December. So you can see how this would put a serious damper on our hobby if we need to register a girl with our host before she is allowed in. Imagine trying to have a girl come over late at night, then contacting your airbnb host at 2 am in the morning trying to get him to register your hooker on some migration website before you can get laid.

So has anyone else heard of this law? Or had a similar experience perhaps?[/QUOTE]I think you have been fooled. There is no new migration law in force and what if your girl is Colombian? Just a property owner who knows that guests might bring back home working girls and junkies and does not want any mess. You would have invited a male friend in the middle of the afternoon I bet you would not have been asked anything to let him in.

[QUOTE=Handsume;2795285]Are there any good restaurants with vegetarian options around sante fe are? First time in BOG. I will in BOG March 23-29 if anyone want to meetup for a drink.[/QUOTE]I'm sure there are several. Bangkok Thai Cuisine has some vegetarian options. Food was good and big portions.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2795267]So I had an interesting experience today. I tried to get a mileroticos girl up to my airbnb. I had explicitly asked the host if visitors were permitted and he confirmed that they are indeed allowed. So I thought everything would be fine. When I got the phone call from security, I told them to let her in, but the security team said that I had to contact my host on airbnb and give him the name and ID number of my visitor before they would let the girl into my apartment. I was a bit pissed, I had never heard of this before. I complained to my host as that was not what I was expecting when I asked if visitors were allowed. He said that he need the name of my visitor so he could register her on some migration website. This had to be done before my visitor would be allowed in. I had never heard of this before, but my host says it is new law that went into effect in December. So you can see how this would put a serious damper on our hobby if we need to register a girl with our host before she is allowed in. Imagine trying to have a girl come over late at night, then contacting your airbnb host at 2 am in the morning trying to get him to register your hooker on some migration website before you can get laid.

So has anyone else heard of this law? Or had a similar experience perhaps?[/QUOTE]Honestly, that's BS. There is no law regarding anything similar, here. The only rule (not law) applies to "conjuntos residentiales" (you're obvisouly in one) where security has to register all the entries. They have no right to ask for an official ID. Just to ask for a name, firstname and ID number (the number, not the passport, not the ID card. They are not police). And if you're allowing the entrance, they can not object anything. It's clearly an abuse. And your host is just lying to your face (or to your ear, whatever). I've experienced dozen of AirBnB, hotels. Never happened. In a hotel, though, the ministry of tourism allows them to ask for the official ID.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2795267]So I had an interesting experience today. I tried to get a mileroticos girl up to my airbnb. I had explicitly asked the host if visitors were permitted and he confirmed that they are indeed allowed. So I thought everything would be fine. When I got the phone call from security, I told them to let her in, but the security team said that I had to contact my host on airbnb and give him the name and ID number of my visitor before they would let the girl into my apartment. I was a bit pissed, I had never heard of this before. I complained to my host as that was not what I was expecting when I asked if visitors were allowed. He said that he need the name of my visitor so he could register her on some migration website. This had to be done before my visitor would be allowed in. I had never heard of this before, but my host says it is new law that went into effect in December. So you can see how this would put a serious damper on our hobby if we need to register a girl with our host before she is allowed in. Imagine trying to have a girl come over late at night, then contacting your airbnb host at 2 am in the morning trying to get him to register your hooker on some migration website before you can get laid.

So has anyone else heard of this law? Or had a similar experience perhaps?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I just had an idea. If your guest was from Venezuela (and it's easy to spot their accent), it can explains things. Even if it is still an abuse to deny the entrance.

By the way, I've seen plenty of people complaining that it is difficult to find some action on daytime. Except through Prepagos. In Bogota, you can find dozen and dozen of massage parlour or brothels opened during the day. Even some bars. They are just a little bit more confidential than the places we all know in SF. But if you like to walk a little, if you do have an adventurous nature, it does worth it. It's a more quiet quest, more for calm people. But the advantage is that you can also discover new places, parts of the city you're not used to. And it's not only in the North. If you're thinking to Teusaquillo (a barrio that I like a lot), you do have many things, especially toward the west side, where the Americas, the 26th and NQS are crossing. Home of the Abejitas, for example. Which is still a nice place. Girls are nice, friendly, everything's very clear from the start, no lies on prices. There always 6 to 8 chicas there, and if you're coming in the afternoon, you will always have the choice (after 6, maybe less). You have other places around, and even a bar open during the day near the Hyatt, close to Corferias. Well, don't panic, the day is still young. As the night.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;2794454]The only swingers' club I'm aware of was Viviana Santamaria's which seems not to have reopened after Christmas. You know of any others? (PM if you prefer![/QUOTE]Here are three. ID recommend messaging them on WhatsApp and you will get their status updates to see what's up. There is another one that's not in Chapinero that I forget, but I will update it when they do a status update next. I'll also try and canvas the other ones in Chapinero on the map and update if closed or not.

[URL]intersw.com[/URL] Carrera 18 #78-50.

I didn't visit this one, but they appear open still.

Europeo [URL]Europeobar.com[/URL] Carrera 16 #76-20.

Early Nov visit I think. Current Whatsapp updates. I am 90% sure this is where I went with another ISGer and 3 chicas. Main floor was chill. Most people in towels and couples doing their thing, but people a little reserved. Guy and girl show that was super hands on. In the basement there was a hot tub with fucking and a sauna room. We got motioned to join in the sauna room by another girl, but we had a prior arrangement with our dates that we were only fucking them.

Imperio [URL]swingerbogota.com[/URL] Carrera 14 #83-18.

My visit was Sept I think. Pretty sure I saw updates but you can message on whatsapp to confirm. I went to this place with a girlfriend. I think it was 80 k for both of us and it included 2 drinks. But maybe it was a little more or less. There was the main floor that had couches and the bar. Couples were doing their thing and then there was a show with a guy and girl fucking. There was like a wrap around balcony upstairs along with an andrew cross or whatever its called and some restraints. In the basement there was a sauna room with fucking. And then a big open room next to it with wrap around seating with couples doing their thing and then a bunch of huge mats in the middle of the room for more fucking.


Gloryhole Bogota - gloryholebogota.com but follow them on twitter for info and videos. Also message on whatsapp to get their updates which are great. @CabinasSwinger

And finally there is also a gloryhole that has couples sometimes in the holes area and then upstairs an event space. See a few of my previous posts for more info. There is both girls they bring in upstairs for events (but no additional cost) and then just couples where the guy likes to share. I have talked to enough people there to confirm this.

Planning a trip to Bogota for the end of June and beginning of July. Very limited experience existing mostly of trips to Costa Rica and DR. Looking for hotel recommendations and some general suggestions. From reading here and other research I've found 2 and would like feed back or other suggestions. Hotel ibis Bogota Museo and Hotel Tequendama.

Any general suggestions for the visit is greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=NichoBaux;2795557]By the way, I've seen plenty of people complaining that it is difficult to find some action on daytime. Except through Prepagos. In Bogota, you can find dozen and dozen of massage parlour or brothels opened during the day. Even some bars. They are just a little bit more confidential than the places we all know in SF. But if you like to walk a little, if you do have an adventurous nature, it does worth it. It's a more quiet quest, more for calm people. But the advantage is that you can also discover new places, parts of the city you're not used to. And it's not only in the North. If you're thinking to Teusaquillo (a barrio that I like a lot), you do have many things, especially toward the west side, where the Americas, the 26th and NQS are crossing. Home of the Abejitas, for example. Which is still a nice place. Girls are nice, friendly, everything's very clear from the start, no lies on prices. There always 6 to 8 chicas there, and if you're coming in the afternoon, you will always have the choice (after 6, maybe less). You have other places around, and even a bar open during the day near the Hyatt, close to Corferias. Well, don't panic, the day is still young. As the night.[/QUOTE]I was in Santa Fe yesterday afternoon. Lotsa great action-- It is a so great to see all them in daylight-- We saw at least 100+ girls. 75% Very Nice.

Hot Girls are there in the afternoon. Have Fun at the Best Sex Playground on Earth--Santa Fe.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2795785]I was in Santa Fe yesterday afternoon. Lotsa great action-- It is a so great to see all them in daylight-- We saw at least 100+ girls. 75% Very Nice.

Hot Girls are there in the afternoon. Have Fun at the Best Sex Playground on Earth--Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]I have been hitting SF streets every day for 3 weeks now, going at different time and love that even at 10 am on Sunday you can find some hottie.

Yesterday at 8 pm, Monday, Venus was nice and quiet for a drink. Only a few customers and about 10 girls (3 of them are in my "next to bang list").
A busy night at Fiebre it's just too much.. i had to go outside last time.

In Santa Fe' any time or day is worth checking.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2795785]I was in Santa Fe yesterday afternoon. Lotsa great action-- It is a so great to see all them in daylight-- We saw at least 100+ girls. 75% Very Nice.

Hot Girls are there in the afternoon. Have Fun at the Best Sex Playground on Earth--Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]Sorry Wman I've seen you doing your tours around SF many times.

But if you think its the best in the world I got news for ya jajajaja.

You really should get out more, hey theres even a website called ISG.

Check it out sometime, I'm in BKK right now, after being in Pattaya and Phnom Penh Angeles City Tokyo.

And I've just started this "fucking" trip lololol.

Meet me in SEA I should be "bouncing around" I mean fucking around SEA.

For several more weeks, Ill show you some places that will blow your mind.

Ie, Nana Plaza on a busy night, think a pussy food court with 3 levels.

Maybe 10 bars on each floor, maybe 50 putas in each bar on wknd, do the math.

ZERO fat nasty cows in lingerie in the 60's jajajaaaaa.

There are more hot sooper fuckable 18 yo putas in 1 Nana bar then there are in all of SF LMAO.

But hey YOLO jaajajaaa if you want to think SF is the best.

Self delusion is a horrible malady!!

[QUOTE=BarrioSpinners;2795812]I have been hitting SF streets every day for 3 weeks now, going at different time and love that even at 10 am on Sunday you can find some hottie.

Yesterday at 8 pm, Monday, Venus was nice and quiet for a drink. Only a few customers and about 10 girls (3 of them are in my "next to bang list").
A busy night at Fiebre it's just too much.. i had to go outside last time.

In Santa Fe' any time or day is worth checking.[/QUOTE]I have always been able to find some good action too-.

Best days days are Tuesday to Saturday-- Best Times mid to late afternoon for daytime fun. At night the Streetie Sweetie Action is best early evening until 9-11+ depending on the the night-.

Club action is best after 9 -.

But as you say any time or day is worth checking-.

I have been continually amazed and thrilled by Santa Fe girls for 12 years.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2795549]I'm sure there are several. Bangkok Thai Cuisine has some vegetarian options. Food was good and big portions.[/QUOTE]I'll second this. A few of us had dinner and a show so to speak last Saturday night in Sante Fe. Good food. Some of the reviews on Google point to a less than steller experience than some, but not our experience at all. Seems like the vocal minority write the reviews vs just using the star system. It's definitely much spicer than typical Colombian place, so when they ask 1,2, or 3 picante tell them what you would normally. The melon juice in agua was really nice too. I haven't noticed it before.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/icjZUMGsDXLtAft17?g_st=iw[/URL]

That block also had other restaurants that seemed worth checking out.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2795813]Sorry Wman I've seen you doing your tours around SF many times.

But if you think its the best in the world I got news for ya jajajaja.

You really should get out more, hey theres even a website called ISG.

Check it out sometime, I'm in BKK right now, after being in Pattaya and Phnom Penh Angeles City Tokyo.

And I've just started this "fucking" trip lololol.

Meet me in SEA I should be "bouncing around" I mean fucking around SEA.

For several more weeks, Ill show you some places that will blow your mind.

Ie, Nana Plaza on a busy night, think a pussy food court with 3 levels.

Maybe 10 bars on each floor, maybe 50 putas in each bar on wknd, do the math.

ZERO fat nasty cows in lingerie in the 60's jajajaaaaa.

There are more hot sooper fuckable 18 yo putas in 1 Nana bar then there are in all of SF LMAO.

But hey YOLO jaajajaaa if you want to think SF is the best.

Self delusion is a horrible malady!![/QUOTE]Or maybe you somehow knew who I was and never said Hi??

If you like Asian girls that's great Many guys do not like-- Do you like traveling 36+++ hrs too?

Not sure about SGs in their 60's never have seen one-.

A lot of what you say sounds hyperbolic-.

Anyhow Have a safe flight-.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2795879]I'll second this. A few of us had dinner and a show so to speak last Saturday night in Sante Fe. Good food. Some of the reviews on Google point to a less than steller experience than some, but not our experience at all. Seems like the vocal minority write the reviews vs just using the star system. It's definitely much spicer than typical Colombian place, so when they ask 1,2, or 3 picante tell them what you would normally. The melon juice in agua was really nice too. I haven't noticed it before.

[URL]https://maps.app.goo.gl/icjZUMGsDXLtAft17?g_st=iw[/URL]

That block also had other restaurants that seemed worth checking out.[/QUOTE]Appreciate it JackTaggart. I'll check it out. Also PM'd you for meetup if your around.

I'm curious what your strategy here is. I've been trying out seeking, but haven't really been successful. This one girl whose pictures made her look like an 8 ended up being more like a 6. 5 in a video call.

She insisted I give her a price, which I really didn't want to since I was hoping she would look better in real life, I said 200 to 300 for sex, and she told me that was way too low, but honestly from her pictures I can't justify paying her more, I didn't want to say to her that she wasn't good looking enough. 400 k for an all nighter seems like a steal, but I'm not really an all nighter kind of guy.

I get the feeling that most of the girls want to pin down a number that they will get, I usually want to rule them out, but a lot of the girls end up insisting on a number.

I've also had a date where no money was involved, just paid for like a normal date.

I feel like these seeking girls really overvalue themselves.

[QUOTE=Aureliano16;2784536]The most common "rate" in seeking is COP 400.000 which is like USD 80, not for an hour, but for a date. If the girl clicks with you, you can pull an all nighter for that price.

You could even get girls for less, but I think you'd need to learn some spanish. Especially true for non-pro girls living in the southern part of the city.

I went to the zone of plaza de las americas so many times, it's a very nice spot because you have the shopping mall to eat / drink something and the love hotels at 5 min distance. Also clubs for dancing close. And since it's the south, you get "poorer" girls; I could arrange dates for as low as 200.000 (USD 40) with an all nighter and several fucks in the session.

Many foreigners are afraid of the south, though. I have never had any issue.[/QUOTE]

I also find that its significantly harder to tell how good looking a girl is from pictures these days. 99% of the pictures have filters applied. Its horrible.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2795916]I'm curious what your strategy here is. I've been trying out seeking, but haven't really been successful. This one girl whose pictures made her look like an 8 ended up being more like a 6. 5 in a video call.

She insisted I give her a price, which I really didn't want to since I was hoping she would look better in real life, I said 200 to 300 for sex, and she told me that was way too low, but honestly from her pictures I can't justify paying her more, I didn't want to say to her that she wasn't good looking enough. 400 k for an all nighter seems like a steal, but I'm not really an all nighter kind of guy.

I get the feeling that most of the girls want to pin down a number that they will get, I usually want to rule them out, but a lot of the girls end up insisting on a number.

I've also had a date where no money was involved, just paid for like a normal date.

I feel like these seeking girls really overvalue themselves.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2795829].[/QUOTE]I have noticed a massive police presence day and night at each corner like if they surround the area (after dark i don't walk south so i'm not sure if this just the strips ). i was expecting less or at a certain time/day only from some review i read .They are literally in the clubs ... maybe just watching pussy, i can't blame them.

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[QUOTE=BarrioSpinners;2795941]I have noticed a massive police presence day and night at each corner like if they surround the area (after dark i don't walk south so i'm not sure if this just the strips ). i was expecting less or at a certain time/day only from some review i read .They are literally in the clubs ... maybe just watching pussy, i can't blame them.[/QUOTE]They dominate the area for control I guess because you have so many Venezuelans there and it is so close to the federal areas. At times they run operations where they shake down certain blocks-.

They mistreat the Venezuelans terribly. I have been helping a poor family I sort of adopted because I love the 5 kids and they are at risk but worth saving. The police have literally come into the building and stolen the little bit of money Yessica (the mother) had. I supply her with magazines and comics (and money) to sell on the street and the police stole some of them. These are the poorest people-- It is Disgusting.

This family lives in one disgusting room, in a building where drugs are sold in the hallway. It is Dickensian.

If any are interested in the GoFundMe I set up for them please contact me as I need help helping them.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2795880]Or maybe you somehow knew who I was and never said Hi??

If you like Asian girls that's great Many guys do not like-- Do you like traveling 36+++ hrs too?

Not sure about SGs in their 60's never have seen one-.

A lot of what you say sounds hyperbolic-.

Anyhow Have a safe flight-.[/QUOTE]36 hrs? Nope Chicago to Tokyo was maybe 12? How many hrs does it take most guys to get to Colombia besides those in Florida already?

You are invested in promoting SF here and you've never seen putas in their 60's in SF oh cmon man jajaja how convenient jajajaaa (hey just watch SF youtube jajajajaaaa).

I've seen them in their fucking 70's in see thru crotchless panties and high heels at noon LOL across from Piscina or outside Hotel Monaco.

And yes I remember talking to you "once" a few yrs back and you were smoking a joint outside the shwarma place so I understand if you don't remember I know I told you my ISG name.

I like Latinas a lot but Asian putas have tighter bodies and pussies.

And softer personas, I like my putas extremely feminine.

Many Colombianas fall very short with the femininity.

To paraphrase a wise man, he says asia is a very feminine culture and typically produces very feminine women and men.

Conversely Latin America is very masculine and generally produces more masculine women and men (yes of course there are outliers).

But there are things I like more about Sudamerica.

The weather for sure.

The people for sure.

Many Asians don't like white people, and I don't give a shit, I'm just sayin (and probably why WW3 may start in the West Philippine Sea soon).

Thailand is the epicenter of whoring globally.

If you want a once in a lifetime whoring experience cum to Thailand.

If you want cheap, very very dirty sex go to SF LOL.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2796061]They dominate the area for control I guess because you have so many Venezuelans there and it is so close to the federal areas. At times they run operations where they shake down certain blocks-.

They mistreat the Venezuelans terribly. I have been helping a poor family I sort of adopted because I love the 5 kids and they are at risk but worth saving. The police have literally come into the building and stolen the little bit of money Yessica (the mother) had. I supply her with magazines and comics (and money) to sell on the street and the police stole some of them. These are the poorest people-- It is Disgusting.

This family lives in one disgusting room, in a building where drugs are sold in the hallway. It is Dickensian.

If any are interested in the GoFundMe I set up for them please contact me as I need help helping them.[/QUOTE]Woodman#9 I'd love to arriving tomorrow staying at Ayenda Americano [blue][Telephone Number deleted by Admin][/blue].

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[QUOTE=Woodman09;2795785]I was in Santa Fe yesterday afternoon. Lotsa great action-- It is a so great to see all them in daylight-- We saw at least 100+ girls. 75% Very Nice.

Hot Girls are there in the afternoon. Have Fun at the Best Sex Playground on Earth--Santa Fe.[/QUOTE]Have Fun at the Best Sex Playground on Earth--Santa Fe? New Mexico? Jajajajaaa.

If anyone believes this please PM me I want to sell you a bunch of CCP digital currency jajajaaa.

Recently returned from a visit and it was great. Will be back soon. Unfortunately I was too rushed to get a Woodman tour. Saying Thai woman are more feminine than Colombians is laughable. The average bar girl is in flip flops, squatting down while munching on some food or squealing "want massage" doesn't cut it. LOL That's said, no reason you can't enjoy both!

One could take the average Santa Fe chica and drop her on a busy Friday night bar scene / street in the US and they'll blend in easily.

Bogata has the perfect mix of grime and upscale for me. Don't show papaya or get too drunk and you increase your odds.

Their are casa's are everywhere but I only visited two around calle62 and 52 in Chapineiro.

Is there a site / contact information for the current crop of young pornstars?

[QUOTE=BoldNineK;2794359]Guys,

I've read most of the reports in the last couple of days and have a pretty good idea of what to expect, but I'm primarily only into BBFS. I fully understand the risks and touchwood haven't gotten anything yet but I feel like BBFS is very hard to come by especially for someone that speaks no Spanish. I'm not looking to cum inside anyone as I don't want kids LOL but just the action itself.

I will be coming from March 23rd till March 28th and basically want lots of BBFS action during this time frame. Any suggestions where to look? Seeking has been most successful for me at least in Canada.[/QUOTE]I got at lido BBFS at lido however not sure if all girls offer there.

I will be in Bogota late March 24th through April 2. Is Lalos still a thing looked up on maps not. Much info. I am planning on a heading to lido mid week and maybe pussyhouse and a few prepagos. Also have one great contact will be meeting on the weekend. Was there back in late July went great!

Coming to BOG for 3-4 nights in June or July. I've read through the forum and will be reaching out for a Woodman tour, but posting a couple questions to get on anyone's radar who will be there.

Me: Flying out of ATL. Experienced brothels / clubs of Amsterdam, Miami, ATL (gladly offering any advice on those). I'm 30 with poor Spanish (practicing), but want to try Colombia for once.

Goal: Coming to monger, with my downtime simply to chill out and eat in a new country's city. My tastes are the young Instagram model types (enhanced or natural). I'm aware of the $ premium on them. To make it simple I plan on just doing the basic McDonalds approach of going to the gringo friendly clubs. Go out in afternoon, come back to eat / shower, then night clubs before its too late.

*Going with BOG over MDE this 1st time. It seems BOG has more clubs and straightforward, with the added benefit of Woodman guide and I can get a direct 4. 5 HR flight to BOG and not stress the connecting / extra travel to lose a day just to get to MDE.

1) Will get a membership and ask Wood, but is he hands on in person? Would appreciate a wing on at least my first encounter but will make use of his rated services.

2) Right clubs for my goals? Seem Troya Fiebre Paisa are the older silicone girls, and Atunes Atonis Venus Casona Texas California are the younger, natural cheaper clubs.

3) I have the stamina for 2-3 rounds a day, what are the reliable daytime clubs for VIP?

4) When are peak night hours? It seems 9 pm is a fair slow start for action, and then by 11 pm I can get a 2nd round in.

5) Late night cutoff for safety? I get to always be vigilant, but is there a time that's too stupid to be out past? I'm fine with heading home by midnight if I get 2 rounds in.

I plan on contributing to this board after this and more trips.

[QUOTE=GiuseppeBonera;2796952]I will be in Bogota late March 24th through April 2. Is Lalos still a thing looked up on maps not. Much info. I am planning on a heading to lido mid week and maybe pussyhouse and a few prepagos. Also have one great contact will be meeting on the weekend. Was there back in late July went great![/QUOTE]Both the Lalo's (international and not) closed down. Not sure when, but when I went they were gone and someone nearby said it was like last year? I went to Lido's around 2 weeks ago but left pretty quickly because of the vibe. Do you know what prices are like there normally? Kind of forgot to ask.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2794997]Went to Pussy House, turns out it moved to another location on calle 65 #13-61. In the old location there was a place called Las Divas across the road? No idea if it still exists. Anyways, PH turned out to be kind of a let-down. .[/QUOTE]Pussy House is awful- clip joint. I had some good experiences at Las Divas pre-pandemic but not recently.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2797010]Coming to BOG for 3-4 nights in June or July. I've read through the forum and will be reaching out for a Woodman tour, but posting a couple questions to get on anyone's radar who will be there.

Me: Flying out of ATL. Experienced brothels / clubs of Amsterdam, Miami, ATL (gladly offering any advice on those). I'm 30 with poor Spanish (practicing), but want to try Colombia for once.

Goal: Coming to monger, with my downtime simply to chill out and eat in a new country's city. My tastes are the young Instagram model types (enhanced or natural). I'm aware of the $ premium on them. To make it simple I plan on just doing the basic McDonalds approach of going to the gringo friendly clubs. Go out in afternoon, come back to eat / shower, then night clubs before its too late.

*Going with BOG over MDE this 1st time. It seems BOG has more clubs and straightforward, with the added benefit of Woodman guide and I can get a direct 4. 5 HR flight to BOG and not stress the connecting / extra travel to lose a day just to get to MDE.

1) Will get a membership and ask Wood, but is he hands on in person? Would appreciate a wing on at least my first encounter but will make use of his rated services.

2) Right clubs for my goals? Seem Troya Fiebre Paisa are the older silicone girls, and Atunes Atonis Venus Casona Texas California are the younger, natural cheaper clubs.

3) I have the stamina for 2-3 rounds a day, what are the reliable daytime clubs for VIP?

4) When are peak night hours? It seems 9 pm is a fair slow start for action, and then by 11 pm I can get a 2nd round in.

5) Late night cutoff for safety? I get to always be vigilant, but is there a time that's too stupid to be out past? I'm fine with heading home by midnight if I get 2 rounds in.

I plan on contributing to this board after this and more trips.[/QUOTE]My general advice; if you want insta model types is to use online methods and get a guest friendly location. Whatsapp call them to verify looks and you're good to go.

Study your Spanish! Go to a strip club in the US and everything you say to a girl there- learn it in Spanish LOL.

1) Take a tour and / or try to meet up with others.

2) You have to visit all of the clubs because the girls drift / walk between then all night. You can't classify any one club as older, silicone, natural etc.

You said you were familiar with ATL and Miami so IMO, Troya, Atonis Venus = Follies, Fiebre, Paisa = Tootsies.

3) Hit the casas daytime. The casas in Zone T have the closest thing to insta model types I think.

4) 9 is good for Santa Fe clubs.

5) Cutoff is more about drinks IMO. Don't get drunk. It can be hard when in Santa Fe for 3-4 hours depending on your personality. I was out as late as 3 am in Santa Fe on a weekend.

A good cutoff time could be 1 am due to Uber availability but even that's pretty random.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2797010]Coming to BOG for 3-4 nights in June or July. I've read through the forum and will be reaching out for a Woodman tour, but posting a couple questions to get on anyone's radar who will be there.

Me: Flying out of ATL. Experienced brothels / clubs of Amsterdam, Miami, ATL (gladly offering any advice on those). I'm 30 with poor Spanish (practicing), but want to try Colombia for once.

Goal: Coming to monger, with my downtime simply to chill out and eat in a new country's city. My tastes are the young Instagram model types (enhanced or natural). I'm aware of the $ premium on them. To make it simple I plan on just doing the basic McDonalds approach of going to the gringo friendly clubs. Go out in afternoon, come back to eat / shower, then night clubs before its too late.

*Going with BOG over MDE this 1st time. It seems BOG has more clubs and straightforward, with the added benefit of Woodman guide and I can get a direct 4. 5 HR flight to BOG and not stress the connecting / extra travel to lose a day just to get to MDE.

1) Will get a membership and ask Wood, but is he hands on in person? Would appreciate a wing on at least my first encounter but will make use of his rated services.

2) Right clubs for my goals? Seem Troya Fiebre Paisa are the older silicone girls, and Atunes Atonis Venus Casona Texas California are the younger, natural cheaper clubs.

3) I have the stamina for 2-3 rounds a day, what are the reliable daytime clubs for VIP?

4) When are peak night hours? It seems 9 pm is a fair slow start for action, and then by 11 pm I can get a 2nd round in.

5) Late night cutoff for safety? I get to always be vigilant, but is there a time that's too stupid to be out past? I'm fine with heading home by midnight if I get 2 rounds in.

I plan on contributing to this board after this and more trips.[/QUOTE]1. The tour is hands on. I'd been here for a while so I didn't get too much new information, but I still appreciated the company and would recommend the tour.

2. Out of the clubs in SF you'll like Fiebre the most.

4. Peak hours are usually around 11 or 12 at night. Things stay pretty crowded up and into 2 am.

5. Inside of the clubs and walking between the clubs in calle 16 a is pretty fine. There's always police on the streets and also within the clubs (not all, but Fiebre yes). If you're out late I would recommend taking an Uber back to your place.

The gringo friendly clubs are basically in the north because the staff all speak English (e. G. , Lido). Depending on what you mean by Instagram model types, it might be hard to find what you're looking for. If you mean skinny girls with the sillicone look, you'll find that. I would definitely recommend practicing Spanish, because it makes the experience more enjoyable.

Arrived Fri night after 18 hrs flights MUC via FRA and Met up with Woodman 8 pm Sat night. Woodman is a really friendly guy and knows SF like the back of hand. First of all he took me to a couple of bars open looking out onto the street where we could look out onto the street and observe the many street walkers congregating on the corners. Bottles of beers in these bars were only 3500 cop (75 cents) bargain! After half an hours or so then it was onwards to the clubs, First one was Troya and in my opinion the best one of all the clubs Woodman showed me. Woodman and I soon realised the we had a mutual interest in playing at gyno doctors. There was this amazing chika on the next table to where we sat doing the most incredible erotic table dance totally naked that I have witnessed in a long time, makes Windmill in Pattaya for any who knows that place look tame in comparison. I caught the eye of a chika walking past our table so I got Woodman to negotiate a Table dance, 30000 cop (USD $6) She was all over me butt naked and I was whilst sitting at the table she managed to get into the 69 position on me. I could not help but to dive into her pussy and have a munch. Oh how tasty that was. Woodman enjoyed practising some limited armature gyno doctor's skills too. I think I should have stayed in Troya but we decided to move on to check out the other clubs, smaller cheaper clubs. I was not too impressed with them. Too much of a sausage fest and the girls were no where near as pretty as Troya. But woodman was doing his thing and showing me around which was good as I now know which clubs to avoid. The smaller clubs do not have comfortable seating which at my age is a must for me. Overall my Woodman tour was def worthwhile and is a must for any first time visitor to SF. Thanks Woodman!!

All this controversy about girls in Bogota vs other parts of the world.

Guess what. There are guys who post Sante Fe walkthroughs on youtube.

Also guys who post BKK walkthroughs (Sukhumvit, Nana, Thermae) too.

Decide for yourself what you prefer. Different people like different things. It's all good.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2796079]36 hrs? Nope Chicago to Tokyo was maybe 12? How many hrs does it take most guys to get to Colombia besides those in Florida already?

You are invested in promoting SF here and you've never seen putas in their 60's in SF oh cmon man jajaja how convenient jajajaaa (hey just watch SF youtube jajajajaaaa).

I've seen them in their fucking 70's in see thru crotchless panties and high heels at noon LOL across from Piscina or outside Hotel Monaco.

And yes I remember talking to you "once" a few yrs back and you were smoking a joint outside the shwarma place so I understand if you don't remember I know I told you my ISG name.

I like Latinas a lot but Asian putas have tighter bodies and pussies...
Bla Bla Blaaaaaahhhhhhh...

.[/QUOTE]Maybe hyperbolic was the wrong word-- I meant Stupid--it's just Bla bla blaaaaaaahhhh. To guys who aren't into asian girls-- Which so many are not-.

And in Santa Fe you can find the vast majority of women are 18-20 something and in great variety -- especially at prime time. I truly have never seen a 70 yr old woman in SF.

There may be 1 or 2 older ladies in SF-- but that is all-- You obviously don't know your ass from a hole in the ground or just make up crap-.

I'm not going to answer you point by point as much of what you wrote is idiotic-- Anyone who reads the 99% positive reports on SF would think that.

All I have to say is if you are not into Colombian and Venezuelan women, you have terrible taste.

I do understand the need for a tighter pussy especially if you are under endowed?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2796353]Have Fun at the Best Sex Playground on Earth--Santa Fe? New Mexico? Jajajajaaa.

If anyone believes this please PM me I want to sell you a bunch of CCP digital currency jajajaaa.[/QUOTE]I am Emotionally attached to Santa Fe-- that is my informed opinion-- I understand your need for Asian girls and that is fine- To Each his own.

I have no need to talk up SF -- I do because It is Great and I Love It!! And All one has to do is read the many reports of good times Below-.

[QUOTE=Mongoose312;2797299]Pussy House is awful- clip joint. I had some good experiences at Las Divas pre-pandemic but not recently.[/QUOTE]The new infrastructure of the pussy house calle 65 is superb. Big, all new, super long podium for the girls to dance, giant screen, bright, clean and freshly painted. The downside currently is the lack of customers and girls. I was there on Saturday around 10 pm, it was dead zone. At least 10 waiters are scanning you every five minutes to see if your glass is empty. Their main room is on the top floor and I spotted a second room on the first floor with girls inside but this looked sort of private bar and I could not get in. Not sure what's happening there. I stayed half an hour and left disappointed.

Las divas still exists and is running business but girls looked awful this Saturday and, same as pussy house, it looked dead. May 4 girls and no more than 10 sausages around 10 pm.

[QUOTE=WetNose;2797727]All this controversy about girls in Bogota vs other parts of the world.

Guess what. There are guys who post Sante Fe walkthroughs on youtube.

Also guys who post BKK walkthroughs (Sukhumvit, Nana, Thermae) too.

Decide for yourself what you prefer. Different people like different things. It's all good.[/QUOTE]You can have a lot more bang for your buck in Bogota, then what you can get on Sukhumvit, Nana, Thermae, Thailand's farang inflation is through the roof. If you are happy now paying $8 for a lady drink, then $30 bar fine and on top of that another $75 for an hour in the sack with a Thai MILF you are welcome to it because for the same cost you can have an all night session with a Venezuelan beauty who is born to be so erotic that she sucks you in and blows you out in bubbles. I've mongered in both places, Lived in Pattaya and Pattaya is going down hill for mongers in favor for the chinese tourist market.

[QUOTE=WetNose;2797727]All this controversy about girls in Bogota vs other parts of the world.

Guess what. There are guys who post Sante Fe walkthroughs on youtube.

Also guys who post BKK walkthroughs (Sukhumvit, Nana, Thermae) too.

Decide for yourself what you prefer. Different people like different things. It's all good.[/QUOTE]Or you could just as well be like me and like both. Who says it has to be one or the other? I like hamburgers and pizza. And I am definitely not talking about how pizza is the best thing ever if I have not tried hamburgers.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2797748]The new infrastructure of the pussy house calle 65 is superb. Big, all new, super long podium for the girls to dance, giant screen, bright, clean and freshly painted. The downside currently is the lack of customers and girls. I was there on Saturday around 10 pm, it was dead zone. At least 10 waiters are scanning you every five minutes to see if your glass is empty. Their main room is on the top floor and I spotted a second room on the first floor with girls inside but this looked sort of private bar and I could not get in. Not sure what's happening there. I stayed half an hour and left disappointed.

Las divas still exists and is running business but girls looked awful this Saturday and, same as pussy house, it looked dead. May 4 girls and no more than 10 sausages around 10 pm.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that about Pussy house. I have some good times in there pre pandemic.

Hey guys,

I hope I'm allowed to post this here:

I'm living in Bogotá for a time now and have to say my experiences are mixed up. I like the strip clubs / brothels for the atmosphere and the cheapness, sex was also good.

My "problem" is I'm really into rougher sex and especially deepthroating. Had some girls from tinder who really enjoyed that. But for some reasons it seems that a lot of escorts / prepagos don't like to do this. Had few very good payed experience here.

So as you might assume from my preferences I like the porn site brokenlatina*****s. And especially as I met some girls here who are working as camgirls too (or camgirls and escorts at the same time) I thought it might be possible to meet one of the brokenlatina*****s. Girls and pay them for sex. I don't know where theyre shooting but its likely to be in Bogotá, or not? But even if its Medellin or Cali, I'm living here and travelling a lot, so that wouldn't be a problem.

So as this is a popular site is there someone here who has any information on them or maybe even has a contact? I wrote them a mail but by now they didn't answer.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2798069]Hey guys,

I hope I'm allowed to post this here:

I'm living in Bogot for a time now and have to say my experiences are mixed up. I like the strip clubs / brothels for the atmosphere and the cheapness, sex was also good.

My "problem" is I'm really into rougher sex and especially deepthroating. Had some girls from tinder who really enjoyed that. But for some reasons it seems that a lot of escorts / prepagos don't like to do this. Had few very good payed experience here.

So as you might assume from my preferences I like the porn site brokenlatina*****s. And especially as I met some girls here who are working as camgirls too (or camgirls and escorts at the same time) I thought it might be possible to meet one of the brokenlatina*****s. Girls and pay them for sex. I don't know where theyre shooting but its likely to be in Bogot, or not? But even if its Medellin or Cali, I'm living here and travelling a lot, so that wouldn't be a problem.

So as this is a popular site is there someone here who has any information on them or maybe even has a contact? I wrote them a mail but by now they didn't answer.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I see a bright future for you in a jail somewhere in this country. Just saying. Hinting around here trying to find others of similar ilk.

Of course I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2798069]I thought it might be possible to meet one of the brokenlatina*****s. Girls and pay them for sex. I don't know where theyre shooting but its likely to be in Bogot, or not? [/QUOTE]Why would it matter where they are shooting? Usually they get a motel, hotel, or rent a house. It is not like they keep the same place and do it everyday. You do realize the chicks are hookers and the people making the content are paying them to do it the exact same way you can find a hooker and pay them to do it right?

[QUOTE=Botti223;2798069]Hey guys,

I hope I'm allowed to post this here:

I'm living in Bogot for a time now and have to say my experiences are mixed up. I like the strip clubs / brothels for the atmosphere and the cheapness, sex was also good.

My "problem" is I'm really into rougher sex and especially deepthroating. Had some girls from tinder who really enjoyed that. But for some reasons it seems that a lot of escorts / prepagos don't like to do this. Had few very good payed experience here.

So as you might assume from my preferences I like the porn site brokenlatina*****s. And especially as I met some girls here who are working as camgirls too (or camgirls and escorts at the same time) I thought it might be possible to meet one of the brokenlatina*****s. Girls and pay them for sex. I don't know where theyre shooting but its likely to be in Bogot, or not? But even if its Medellin or Cali, I'm living here and travelling a lot, so that wouldn't be a problem..[/QUOTE]The website is run by guys who find and pay girls to do whatever it is they do on whatever that site is. Don't expect them to rush to help when you send an email asking "can you hook me up with one of the women you're making money off of."

If you're living there, just take your time, and ask around. There's bound to be a group of s&m aficionados. Or some girls will have friends who are into that. I'm not into that and have found more than enough girls in Medellin who want it rough. And before anyone asks, no, I'm not giving out contact information. Unfortunately, too many men with that particular kink are intent on causing real harm, rather than just playing a role.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2798304]I see a bright future for you in a jail somewhere in this country. Just saying. Hinting around here trying to find others of similar ilk.

Of course I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]In jail? Because I like deepthroat? Or because I want to interact with amateur porn actresses?

Sounds pretty square in a forum like this.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2798312]Why would it matter where they are shooting? [/QUOTE]Because I would like to meet one of the girls.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2798472]In jail? Because I like deepthroat? Or because I want to interact with amateur porn actresses?

Sounds pretty square in a forum like this.[/QUOTE]Consensual BDSM stuff, no problem. But there certainly are fantasy porn scenarios that would be over the line if you were to do them in real life.

Interacting with porn actresses, to each their own.

My comment is just that sometimes people fish for contacts for stuff that goes way over the line. I am particularly sensitive about this as someone close to me was murdered by a guy that had a fantasy that concluded with that.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2798591]Consensual BDSM stuff, no problem. But there certainly are fantasy porn scenarios that would be over the line if you were to do them in real life.

Interacting with porn actresses, to each their own.

My comment is just that sometimes people fish for contacts for stuff that goes way over the line. I am particularly sensitive about this as someone close to me was murdered by a guy that had a fantasy that concluded with that.[/QUOTE]Care to elaborate on the details of your lady friend's murder?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2798650]Care to elaborate on the details of your lady friend's murder?[/QUOTE]No, I really can't. She was a family member, it was a few years ago now, and her murderer was eventually convicted.

Headed over to Angelos VIP in the Kennedy area with a local friend. It's kind of like a cheaper Lido where the interior is really nice, they make you go through extra security, and there's girls around but few guys. Friend told me prices there are pretty similar to Fiebre though slightly higher, but we left pretty quick because I didn't like the vibe (not really a party). I didn't really look around that well but the girls there were pretty attractive. A girl I know apparently saw me during the 5 minutes I was inside and later told me that it's like 500 k / hour for girls there.

Around Angelos there's like 5-7 clubs in the area which aren't as nice all basically side-by-side on the main street. Apparently gringos don't really come to this area, so it's more frequently visited by locals. Some of the places kind of remind me of going into Texas or Venus (but smaller) so if that's your thing could be another place to check out. I asked one girl and she mentioned 70 k to go upstairs. There's also a decent police presence on the street around the clubs.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2798591]Consensual BDSM stuff, no problem. But there certainly are fantasy porn scenarios that would be over the line if you were to do them in real life.

Interacting with porn actresses, to each their own.

My comment is just that sometimes people fish for contacts for stuff that goes way over the line. I am particularly sensitive about this as someone close to me was murdered by a guy that had a fantasy that concluded with that.[/QUOTE]As I made clear in my post. At least I think I did. I'm mainly interested in heavy deepthroat.

I don't think brokenlatina*****s is about BDSM. They're using handcuffs but that's it.

I don't want to start a philosophical discussion but I think its pretty much a matter of person definition what is "over the line" in a sexual sense. And even if a person "is over the line" in a sexual sense it doesn't mean that he's a criminal and has no sense for what is right or wrong.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2799010]As I made clear in my post. At least I think I did. I'm mainly interested in heavy deepthroat.

I don't think brokenlatina*****s is about BDSM. They're using handcuffs but that's it.

I don't want to start a philosophical discussion but I think its pretty much a matter of person definition what is "over the line" in a sexual sense. And even if a person "is over the line" in a sexual sense it doesn't mean that he's a criminal and has no sense for what is right or wrong.[/QUOTE]You said you're into "rougher sex", which implies some level of S&M. Deepthroat by itself is just normal stuff. Deepthroat combined with rougher sex definitely is suggesting BDSM stuff.

And you're referencing a website called "Brokenlatina*s. " That actually goes beyond BDSM, which is consensual. "Broken" means nonconsensual submission. I don't think anyone is overreacting to think you might be interested in things which are "over the line", which can quite often be illegal.

As I said, I haven't had a difficult time getting girls to deepthroat, or at least make the attempt. I've also had no real problem finding girls interested in at least some level of rougher sex, spanking, choking, hair pulling, bondage, etc. And I never went looking for it. You talk to the girls, find out what they like, let them know what you like and the rest is easy.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2799010]As I made clear in my post. At least I think I did. I'm mainly interested in heavy deepthroat.

I don't think brokenlatina*****s is about BDSM. They're using handcuffs but that's it.

I don't want to start a philosophical discussion but I think its pretty much a matter of person definition what is "over the line" in a sexual sense. And even if a person "is over the line" in a sexual sense it doesn't mean that he's a criminal and has no sense for what is right or wrong.[/QUOTE]Your line may not be the same as the other person. If you are over the line as defined by society, and, or the line defined by the other person then you may well be a criminal. And remember that in most countries we talk about on this forum you are guilty until proven innocent. So a chica accuses you of being over the line. You get to tell your side of the story after a couple of years in a jail awaiting trial. Whether you are guilty or not will probably not matter by that time.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2799176]Your line may not be the same as the other person. If you are over the line as defined by society, and, or the line defined by the other person then you may well be a criminal. .[/QUOTE]Yes, but you're mixing up personal or social lines with laws. And that's a mistake.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2799192]Yes, but you're mixing up personal or social lines with laws. And that's a mistake.[/QUOTE]The law quickly comes into play when someone accuses you of assault. That is what I was referring to. You may feel that your "thing" is within the law and not over the line. That is irrelevant. It is what the other person thinks. So when you are accused of sexual assault in many countries you will potentially spend time in jail even though it is not "over the line" from your point of view, and not "over the line" legally even. Sure, you may be eventually exonerated legally, but after 2 years in a jail awaiting trial you may no longer have the will to live.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2799063]And you're referencing a website called "Brokenlatina*s. " That actually goes beyond BDSM ... "Broken" means nonconsensual submission. I don't think anyone is overreacting to think you might be interested in things which are "over the line", which can quite often be illegal. [/QUOTE]So then someone who likes the Jules Jordan series "Big Ass Worship" and wants to imitate this is also a pagan or polytheist?

[QUOTE=Botti223;2798069]Hey guys,

I hope I'm allowed to post this here:

I'm living in Bogot for a time now and have to say my experiences are mixed up. I like the strip clubs / brothels for the atmosphere and the cheapness, sex was also good.

My "problem" is I'm really into rougher sex and especially deepthroating. Had some girls from tinder who really enjoyed that. But for some reasons it seems that a lot of escorts / prepagos don't like to do this. Had few very good payed experience here.

So as you might assume from my preferences I like the porn site brokenlatina*****s. And especially as I met some girls here who are working as camgirls too (or camgirls and escorts at the same time) I thought it might be possible to meet one of the brokenlatina*****s. Girls and pay them for sex. I don't know where theyre shooting but its likely to be in Bogot, or not? But even if its Medellin or Cali, I'm living here and travelling a lot, so that wouldn't be a problem.

So as this is a popular site is there someone here who has any information on them or maybe even has a contact? I wrote them a mail but by now they didn't answer.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]You can find girls that are submissive.

I like to take over and call the shots in my sessions. Not really extreme but I do like to find girls who will let me gag them with my dick covered or not.

I want a girl that lets me use her like a sex doll and choke, pull hair, stick my fingers in there mouth and generally move her into the positions I want-.

-- Basic domination I guess-.

I find many girls who like this kind of thing-.

I am always trying to vette their submissivness before I do an initial session. The ones that are into this are the ones I repeat with-- I have a large stable-.

Hola amigos!

I used to have an account here that I is not valid anymore. It used to be ThatIndianGuy on this site and I had a lot of great exchanges here with a lot of great people.

Anyhow!

I have been to Bangkok, DR, Costa Rica and Brazil. Visiting Bogota for the first time in few weeks. I have a question and it is a very unusual one. Any chica friendly hotel where the rooms have balconies? I am a smoker, unfortunately, and I hate to take the elevators all the way down just to smoke a cigarette after having some good time with a chica.

Thanks for any reposes in advances.

TIG!

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2799579]Hola amigos!

I used to have an account here that I is not valid anymore. It used to be ThatIndianGuy on this site and I had a lot of great exchanges here with a lot of great people.

Anyhow!

I have been to Bangkok, DR, Costa Rica and Brazil. Visiting Bogota for the first time in few weeks. I have a question and it is a very unusual one. Any chica friendly hotel where the rooms have balconies? I am a smoker, unfortunately, and I hate to take the elevators all the way down just to smoke a cigarette after having some good time with a chica.

Thanks for any reposes in advances.

TIG![/QUOTE]Not sure about hotels-- But there are many Airbnb in highrises with balconies -- Many near Santa Fe-- Good Luck.

Hello,

Long time lurker here wanting to share my experiences.

I've been to Bogota 3 times now for a total of over 2 months. I've tried both agencies and independent girls.

From my experience independent girls are worth the money.

I primarily use Seeking and usually pay them around 300,000 - 400,000 Cop.

Here is my most memorable experience:

Valentina:

Messaged her on Seeking and I offered her 400,000 Cop initially. She countered with 600,000 Cop. I then tried countering with $250 for BBFS CIP. It was a long shot and I didn't think she would agree to it. She then countered with $350 BBFS CIP for 3 hours. She was a hot 20 year old so I agreed to it.

When she arrived, she looked exactly like her pictures. Her service was great. Great BBBJ, DFK, and CIP. I ended up cumming 3 times in about 2 hours and just asked her to leave early.

I know $350 US is ridiculously expensive in Bogota but I really wanted to BBFS with a hot 20 year old.

In total I have probably been with around 15 escorts in Bogota but that was the most memorable one. I was able to get BBFS with one other girl. If anyone wants to hear about it.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2797732]Maybe hyperbolic was the wrong word-- I meant Stupid--it's just Bla bla blaaaaaaahhhh. To guys who aren't into asian girls-- Which so many are not-.

And in Santa Fe you can find the vast majority of women are 18-20 something and in great variety -- especially at prime time. I truly have never seen a 70 yr old woman in SF.

There may be 1 or 2 older ladies in SF-- but that is all-- You obviously don't know your ass from a hole in the ground or just make up crap-.

I'm not going to answer you point by point as much of what you wrote is idiotic-- Anyone who reads the 99% positive reports on SF would think that.

All I have to say is if you are not into Colombian and Venezuelan women, you have terrible taste.

I do understand the need for a tighter pussy especially if you are under endowed?[/QUOTE]Hey my old friend Woodman, well The Tall Man was out in the bars and streets last night in SF, and dang at about 7 PM there was a downpour so headed into the nearest strip club (Venus? And found me a thick big boned black girl from Cali and damn she could take a pounding.

Love the variety of SF.

Peace and love to all that follow.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2799579]Hola amigos!

I used to have an account here that I is not valid anymore. It used to be ThatIndianGuy on this site and I had a lot of great exchanges here with a lot of great people.

Anyhow!

I have been to Bangkok, DR, Costa Rica and Brazil. Visiting Bogota for the first time in few weeks. I have a question and it is a very unusual one. Any chica friendly hotel where the rooms have balconies? I am a smoker, unfortunately, and I hate to take the elevators all the way down just to smoke a cigarette after having some good time with a chica.

Thanks for any reposes in advances.

TIG![/QUOTE]Hotel with balcony NH Group Teleport Royal.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2799579]Hola amigos!

I used to have an account here that I is not valid anymore. It used to be ThatIndianGuy on this site and I had a lot of great exchanges here with a lot of great people.

Anyhow!

I have been to Bangkok, DR, Costa Rica and Brazil. Visiting Bogota for the first time in few weeks. I have a question and it is a very unusual one. Any chica friendly hotel where the rooms have balconies? I am a smoker, unfortunately, and I hate to take the elevators all the way down just to smoke a cigarette after having some good time with a chica.

Thanks for any reposes in advances.

TIG![/QUOTE]I guess you miss the 6th floor in the Del Rey LOL There is a hotel in Chico Norte, Bogota it has a kitchenette, a king bed for at 50 night. The second floor has an attached terrace. PM for details.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2799218]So then someone who likes the Jules Jordan series "Big Ass Worship" and wants to imitate this is also a pagan or polytheist?[/QUOTE]Here you go. I know this girl. She just sent me the link to her new OnlyFans account. She does deepthroat, bondage, S&M, is multi-orgasmic and is a squirter. She's from Medellin. Sexually she's extremely adventurous and passionate. She's all natural, no kids. She's put on some weight since I last saw her, which is a bonus if you're into big tits.

I don't know if you can get her to come see you. If you do, she won't come cheap. Although, if you can get her and make it enjoyable for her, she'll leave you drained. She's mostly running her other businesses. However, she does have a lot of friends and she can probably find you what you're looking for.

[URL]https://onlyfans.com/santamariaxxx?rec=1001306[/URL]

I have been to SF many times in the last 2 weeks-- Many Good Times!

Here a few notes.

I got slapped because a drunk Mexican was slapping a girls ass during a lapdance in Fiebre and she thought it was me-- it hurt too, LOL. This friggen Mexican was so drunk I think we fist bumped about 80+ times.

I did not see any 50- 80 yr old SGs the whole time-- I did see a couple of midgets tho. I did see 100's of 18-20 something girls. A hot ass girl named Milena works at Venus-- she is a Super cute 20 something Latina, Skinny with great medium boobs I and many of the ISGers banged her (me, many times). She does great lapdances and does a great job on the pole too. - I do not know why she always is in Venus as she could work in any club -- She is the unofficial headliner-- she is an 8+.

SGs-- We went about 10 p on Saturday and there were some nice ones but it had rained so not as many as usual. Sometimes when it is raining there will be tons of girls in Texas or California clubs-- I love those clubs because the girls ars so slutty.

The club La Casona has built a Great open air lounge on their 3 d floor-- Huge and you can smoke-- Beautiful -.

[URL]https://imgur.com/a/54xVdJS[/URL]

New Clubs on CR 16 Pink (not opened) and Dubai which is struggling-.

Much more to say-- Later.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2799579]Hola amigos!

I used to have an account here that I is not valid anymore. It used to be ThatIndianGuy on this site and I had a lot of great exchanges here with a lot of great people.

Anyhow!

I have been to Bangkok, DR, Costa Rica and Brazil. Visiting Bogota for the first time in few weeks. I have a question and it is a very unusual one. Any chica friendly hotel where the rooms have balconies? I am a smoker, unfortunately, and I hate to take the elevators all the way down just to smoke a cigarette after having some good time with a chica.

Thanks for any reposes in advances.

TIG![/QUOTE]You didn't specify what area you were looking for. Probably not that helpful given the location isn't the best for mongering and not sure what else you are here for, but pepe sierra is near by. I had a room here with a huge balcony and the front desk didn't care about much. There is a restaurant and bar in the back.

Hotel Lancaster.

Avenida carrera 45 # 106 B -28, Bogot.

[QUOTE=Marglo;2799652]Hotel with balcony NH Group Teleport Royal.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Is that hotel visitor friendly?

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2799826]You didn't specify what area you were looking for. Probably not that helpful given the location isn't the best for mongering, but not sure what else you are here for, but pepe sierra is near by. I had a room here with a huge balcony and the front desk didn't care about much. There is a restaurant and bar in the back.

Hotel Lancaster.

Avenida carrera 45 # 106 B -28, Bogot.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I want to stay close to Santa Fe.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2799736]I guess you miss the 6th floor in the Del Rey LOL There is a hotel in Chico Norte, Bogota it has a kitchenette, a king bed for at 50 night. The second floor has an attached terrace. PM for details.[/QUOTE]I stay at the Sportsmen Lodge. All the rooms are on the first floor so stepping out is no big deal.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2799749]Here you go. I know this girl. She just sent me the link to her new OnlyFans account. She does deepthroat, bondage, S&M, is multi-orgasmic and is a squirter. She's from Medellin. Sexually she's extremely adventurous and passionate. She's all natural, no kids. She's put on some weight since I last saw her, which is a bonus if you're into big tits.

[URL]https://onlyfans.com/santamariaxxx?rec=1001306[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you very much.

Its just that as I told you I'm not into S&M or bondage at all. Yes, you're right, in some years I will discover the criminal in me and end up in jail assaulting colombian girls. But right now I'm just looking for a girl who likes to. And I really mean that, I don't want to have the feeling to discomfort her. Let me put my dick entirely in her mouth. And I think I don't have to fly to Medellin for this. I also met some girls here who enjoyed this. Met one girl on tinder who even wanted to shot a porn movie with her. It was awesome but besides sex she didn't interest me at all and if I meet someone just to sex have with him ID rather pay for that. To me it feels more comfortable.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2799549]You can find girls that are submissive.

I like to take over and call the shots in my sessions. Not really extreme but I do like to find girls who will let me gag them with my dick covered or not.

I want a girl that lets me use her like a sex doll and choke, pull hair, stick my fingers in there mouth and generally move her into the positions I want-.

-- Basic domination I guess-.

I find many girls who like this kind of thing-.

I am always trying to vette their submissivness before I do an initial session. The ones that are into this are the ones I repeat with-- I have a large stable-.[/QUOTE]Nice to hear but besides that you're also misinterpeting my reference to a porn series called "brokenlatina*s" as if it was about submissivenes (not that this would be a bad thing, its just not my thing) I don't really see how this can help me.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2799874]Nice to hear but besides that you're also misinterpeting my reference to a porn series called "brokenlatina*s" as if it was about submissivenes (not that this would be a bad thing, its just not my thing) I don't really see how this can help me.[/QUOTE]Now that this has come full circle, I hope you see now that nobody else can find what is going to be perfect for you. Sometimes you have to do your own digging and sorting.

How can I get this woodman tour everyone is talking about? Flew into Bogota yesterday and I'm a little intimidated by how dangerous everyone makes Santa Fe sound but I leave Thursday and really want to experience it before I go (currently have a room booked near parque central Bavaria outside of Santa Fe) anyways, I know I appear new here but just new to mongering in Bogota, I frequent the USA site. Either way I'll end up making my way out there but I would feel a lot safer and better with someone who knew the area, would be willing to pay for this (not $5100 &#128541 but I'll treat you to a few ladies or drinks. Anyways, any help is much appreciated, I know this is a long shot coming from a new account.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2799791]I have been to SF many times in the last 2 weeks-- Many Good Times!

Here a few notes.

I got slapped because a drunk Mexican was slapping a girls ass during a lapdance in Fiebre and she thought it was me-- it hurt too, LOL. This friggen Mexican was so drunk I think we fist bumped about 80+ times.

I did not see any 50- 80 yr old SGs the whole time-- I did see a couple of midgets tho. I did see 100's of 18-20 something girls. A hot ass girl named Milena works at Venus-- she is a Super cute 20 something Latina, Skinny with great medium boobs I and many of the ISGers banged her (me, many times). She does great lapdances and does a great job on the pole too. - I do not know why she always is in Venus as she could work in any club -- She is the unofficial headliner-- she is an 8+.

SGs-- We went about 10 p on Saturday and there were some nice ones but it had rained so not as many as usual. Sometimes when it is raining there will be tons of girls in Texas or California clubs-- I love those clubs because the girls ars so slutty.

The club La Casona has built a Great open air lounge on their 3 d floor-- Huge and you can smoke-- Beautiful -.

[URL]https://imgur.com/a/54xVdJS[/URL]

New Clubs on CR 16 Pink (not opened) and Dubai which is struggling-.

Much more to say-- Later.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jakjon113;2800028]How can I get this woodman tour everyone is talking about? Flew into Bogota yesterday and I'm a little intimidated by how dangerous everyone makes Santa Fe sound but I leave Thursday and really want to experience it before I go (currently have a room booked near parque central Bavaria outside of Santa Fe) anyways, I know I appear new here but just new to mongering in Bogota, I frequent the USA site. Either way I'll end up making my way out there but I would feel a lot safer and better with someone who knew the area, would be willing to pay for this (not $5100 &#128541 but I'll treat you to a few ladies or drinks. Anyways, any help is much appreciated, I know this is a long shot coming from a new account.[/QUOTE]You got to sign up for the fourm to message him to arrange. If you already have Bitcoin it's easy. If you don't, it's still easy, but your best bet is to find a gas station Bitcoin ATM like rockitcoin. You can find instructions in the header of this site for using Bitcoin for membership once you have Bitcoin.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2799945]Now that this has come full circle, I hope you see now that nobody else can find what is going to be perfect for you. Sometimes you have to do your own digging and sorting.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

Was a very helpful experience here in this forum. First I got declared as a BDSM-fan with a criminal tendency because I stated I love "rough" sex. And now I have to realize that I have to arrange the things for myself. Thought that forums have user use. But I will accept this.

Bye.

I've posted about this place in the past and there is def paid chicas sometimes (for a fixed door fee) sometimes, but there is a hotwife going at 6 pm and I have played there with her and she's awesome. If anyone has interest in this sort of different scene check out their Twitter, but more importantly show up later because she is the real deal. I posted middle of last year about the place with more details. Last week I went and it was upstairs in a newer sex room.

Calle 65 a 13-68.

[URL]https://twitter.com/CabinasParejas/status/1638201554128842752?t=5nbFQ_xZzH8DClU1i3iWaQ&s=19[/URL]

Any daytime high end place in zona norte and chapinero?

Tried Loutron and mezzeanine but wasn't all that impressive.

If anyone wants to check out places together, shoot me DM.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2800126]Thank you.

Was a very helpful experience here in this forum. First I got declared as a BDSM-fan with a criminal tendency because I stated I love "rough" sex. And now I have to realize that I have to arrange the things for myself. Thought that forums have user use. But I will accept this.

Bye.[/QUOTE]Well it seems you are the only one that knows what you want. People have tried to point you in the direction of what they interpret you want but that does not seem to be right. All people can recommend you do now is to visit or message places that girls are and ask about them doing what you want. Maybe they will understand better. Nobody is here to deliver a specific chick to your door, put your dick in her, and ask you is this what you were after. Get on one of the several hooker sites mentioned here and do a search. Nobody is going to point you to the gold mine AND dig the gold for you.

[QUOTE=Botti223;2800126]Thank you.

Was a very helpful experience here in this forum. First I got declared as a BDSM-fan with a criminal tendency because I stated I love "rough" sex. And now I have to realize that I have to arrange the things for myself. Thought that forums have user use. But I will accept this..[/QUOTE]You say you want rough sex and specifically ask about getting in touch with a website that I can only assume portrays dominance and submission fantasies and now you're crying because people assumed you're looking to participate in some type of BDSM?

If you cry that easily, you're definitely not a top.

Here's something that might help you in the future:

If you just want to find a girl who can handle deepthroat, just say "I'm looking for a girl who does deepthroat. " Don't mention rough sex (sadism and madochism) or reference a website specializing in bondage, discipline, domination and submission. Because what you asked for was BDSM sex with deepthroat.

[QUOTE=JakJon113;2800028]How can I get this woodman tour everyone is talking about? Flew into Bogota yesterday and I'm a little intimidated by how dangerous everyone makes Santa Fe sound but I leave Thursday and really want to experience it before I go (currently have a room booked near parque central Bavaria outside of Santa Fe) anyways, I know I appear new here but just new to mongering in Bogota, I frequent the USA site. Either way I'll end up making my way out there but I would feel a lot safer and better with someone who knew the area, would be willing to pay for this (not $5100 &#128541 but I'll treat you to a few ladies or drinks. Anyways, any help is much appreciated, I know this is a long shot coming from a new account.[/QUOTE]Santa fe is not that extremly dangerous if you use common sense, I think that is something said in a lot of thread of this forum (Colombia or else) :

- Be mindful of your cash and belongings (wrong place to show off).

- Take a cab to drop you in front of the place you're going to (usually at night it's around Fiebre, Paisa, etc and those clubs are only 5 meters away from each others) Take a cab back home when you leave.

- It's possible to frequently switch from one club to another if that's what you like (don't know your budget, but you need to do it in a smart way to avoid the drawbacks), there is no need for you to establish yourself in one place if you like to move (although a lot of girls are already switching).

- Be careful who you're making friend with, it's actually not necessary to make any, girls are there and available, you can go straight and talk to them exactly how you would do in another part of the world. Some of these girls are sweeeeetttt! Attitudewise.

- If you have pockets that you can close, then use them for your cash / phone / wallet / whatever and get into the habbit of opening, using and closing back when you're done. If you don't have, then consider investing in that.

- I don't see any reason for you to get overly drunk / intoxicated in a place like Santa fe (that's the common sense the forum members refer to), but it's up to you. If you're a drinker, get to your comfortable lvl of highness and then don't be ashamed to drink water.

- Whatever you plan to drink once inside, it's better if you ask the price before you enter the club (unless you know it already). They will rush you to convince and get you in, perfect time to ask them how much is this or that. Avoid leaving your drink out of sight for a long period of time (or at all), I don't know if it's frequent there or not and you don't want to find out.

- There are different places there but most of the action is focused around the clubs like Troya, Fiebre, Paisa, blablabla, so if you're new, just hang around there you will have time to move further away after a few visits. There is a map in the forum, use it, but if you plan to explore the area (I mean walk the street) late night, honestly I would NOT recommend. If you decide to do so, take your precautions (common sense again), some corners are dark and it's not the safest place in Bogota (doesn't mean you can't explore just more risky).

What I mean is, if your concern is solely security, you really can go there by yourself as long as you adapt your behaviors to this kind of environment. If you need tips for the girls, or whatever of that kind then yeah, maybe a tour from an experienced monger would help.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2800430]You say you want rough sex and specifically ask about getting in touch with a website that I can only assume portrays dominance and submission fantasies and now you're crying because people assumed you're looking to participate in some type of BDSM?

If you cry that easily, you're definitely not a top.

Here's something that might help you in the future:

If you just want to find a girl who can handle deepthroat, just say "I'm looking for a girl who does deepthroat. " Don't mention rough sex (sadism and madochism) or reference a website specializing in bondage, discipline, domination and submission. Because what you asked for was BDSM sex with deepthroat.[/QUOTE]So first of all I checked the tags the website and the videos they're offering and there's not only one tag saying SM / BDSM or something hinting in that direction.

So you think you know me better than I do and you think you know the content of that page better than the guys who are creating it. Might lead you to some thinking. But from your comments here I'm sure it won't.

And I'm definitely not crying but as I pointed out above: interpreting situations is obviously not your strength.

[QUOTE=JohnDarkSmith;2800499]Santa fe is not that extremly dangerous if you use common sense,

- Be mindful of your cash and belongings (wrong place to show off).
- Take a cab to drop you in front of the place you're going to (usually at night it's around Fiebre, Paisa, etc and those clubs are only 5 meters away from each others) Take a cab back home when you leave.
- It's possible to frequently switch from one club to another if that's what you like (don't know your budget, but you need to do it in a smart way to avoid the drawbacks), there is no need for you to establish yourself in one place if you like to move (although a lot of girls are already switching).
- Be careful who you're making friend with, it's actually not necessary to make any, girls are there and available, you can go straight and talk to them exactly how you would do in another part of the world. Some of these girls are sweet! Attitudewise.
- If you have pockets that you can close, then use them for your cash / phone / wallet / whatever and get into the habbit of opening, using and closing back when you're done. If you don't have, then consider investing in that.
- I don't see any reason for you to get overly drunk / intoxicated in a place like Santa fe (that's the common sense the forum members refer to), but it's up to you. If you're a drinker, get to your comfortable lvl of highness and then don't be ashamed to drink water.
- Whatever you plan to drink once inside, it's better if you ask the price before you enter the club (unless you know it already). They will rush you to convince and get you in, perfect time to ask them how much is this or that. Avoid leaving your drink out of sight for a long period of time (or at all), I don't know if it's frequent there or not and you don't want to find out.
- There are different places there but most of the action is focused around the clubs like Troya, Fiebre, Paisa, blablabla, so if you're new, just hang around there you will have time to move further away after a few visits. There is a map in the forum, use it, but if you plan to explore the area (I mean walk the street) late night, honestly I would NOT recommend. If you decide to do so, take your precautions (common sense again), some corners are dark and it's not the safest place in Bogota (doesn't mean you can't explore just more risky).
What I mean is, if your concern is solely security, you really can go there by yourself as long as you adapt your behaviors to this kind of environment. If you need tips for the girls, or whatever of that kind then yeah, maybe a tour from an experienced monger would help.[/QUOTE]Agree. I have been going to Santa Fe by myself 4-5 times. I do not drink alcohol nor make friends with anyone, rarely talk to anyone unless its a girl I want to take upstairs. I take a taxi just like said. Some taxi drivers do not want to drive into Santa Fe. Just on a mission to get laid by some of the prettiest women in the world!

[QUOTE=Botti223;2800520]So first of all I checked the tags the website and the videos they're offering and there's not only one tag saying SM / BDSM or something hinting in that direction.

So you think you know me better than I do and you think you know the content of that page better than the guys who are creating it. Might lead you to some thinking. But from your comments here I'm sure it won't.

And I'm definitely not crying but as I pointed out above: interpreting situations is obviously not your strength.[/QUOTE]I did something easier. I went to the website. These screenshots are from the main page. The images depict forced submission, domination and bondage. Some photos on the main page show women being restrained by others. A few show women with expressions of fear. It ain't Mary Fucking Poppins.

I don't think I know you at all. Here's how these forums work:

You post something. People read what you post, attempt to understand your meaning and reply. If you post that you're looking for someplace to get ice cream, you'll get responses related to ice cream. If you post you want rough sex, specifically with deepthroat and you reference a website that depicts women with expressions of distress, apparently forced into sexual situations against their will, you're going to get responses related to BDSM. What you're not going to get are responses about vanilla ice cream.

If you're looking to emulate what you see on your favored wank site, forcing women to perform deepthroat, restraining women against their will, there's a good chance you will run afoul of the law, or the much worse problem, the girl's friends.

As I said, if you're just looking for a blowjob, then quit being such a twit and say so.

Hi all.

I read somewhere here that Tequendama Suites and Hotel charge you a fee for bring a girl to your room. Anyone knows how much is the fee? I am talking day hours. Not planning to keep anyone in my room overnight.

Thanks,

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2801359]Hi all.

I read somewhere here that Tequendama Suites and Hotel charge you a fee for bring a girl to your room. Anyone knows how much is the fee? I am talking day hours. Not planning to keep anyone in my room overnight.

Thanks,[/QUOTE]Only guest fee for overnight. I know a guy who was there recently, when there were a lot of problems bringing girls.

I hear it is back to normal now- And I know recently that it was no problem with 2 different guys-- Ibis and San Francisco there is no charge I hear.

[QUOTE=JohnDarkSmith;2800499]
- There are different places there but most of the action is focused around the clubs like Troya, Fiebre, Paisa, blablabla, so if you're new, just hang around there you will have time to move further away after a few visits. There is a map in the forum, use it, but if you plan to explore the area (I mean walk the street) late night, honestly I would NOT recommend. If you decide to do so, take your precautions (common sense again), some corners are dark and it's not the safest place in Bogota (doesn't mean you can't explore just more risky).
[/QUOTE]Good post, JDS. Fiebre has Gatorade which is a nice change from the other clubs that have water only. I did the Woodman tour, and he is a great guy, but what I saw the most was that SF was really not that dangerous and Woodman confirmed it. There are cops all around.

Main danger I heard was getting your beer spiked. Like you, I am not a big drinker and think it is better to keep your wits about you when in SF.

Only other thing to say is you can get Uber to take you there, but it is hell getting one to come pick you up. I have leaned to go for the taxis when leaving but they tend not to be too bright with directions so I have had to use google maps.

For hotels, Ibis let me bring guests back, but the rooms are on par with Motel 6. I heard Hotel Oceania was nice but there was a guest fee, but my favorite hotel that is about a five minute cab ride away, the NH 26 urban royal. I am not sure about guests there, but the buffet and rooms are really nice.

That area also has an Anytime Fitness, only one in Colombia I think.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2801359]Hi all.

I read somewhere here that Tequendama Suites and Hotel charge you a fee for bring a girl to your room. Anyone knows how much is the fee? I am talking day hours. Not planning to keep anyone in my room overnight.

Thanks,[/QUOTE]Hi,

When I was there it was about 22 USD to have the girl stay the night. They also charged me the same fee for the 2nd girl.

Stay safe, Chelovec.

Just want to share my gratitude with all the folks here. All your contributions helped me plan my maiden voyage to Bogota. Thank you all!

I will be going to Brazil but stopping over in Bogota on my way back for few days in the first month of May.

I booked my airport pick up with Colombian Buddy company. The also provide you a Colombian phone SIM card at the pickup. Airport pickup by an English speaking person along with the SIM card cost me US $46. Maybe a lot for Bogota but I have piece of mind that there will be someone waiting for me at the airport late night with a SIM card.

I will be arriving late night so I have booked the Woodman tour for the next day afternoon. I remember taking the legendary "Pops" tour in Costa Rica. We became instant friends and he always looked after me whenever I was in San Jose. Hoping to strike the same chord with our Woodman.

Besides having some good times in the evening, I am planning to visit places like Plaza de Bolivar, Monserrate, Botero Museum and maybe a trip to the Salt Cathedral. And eating Ajiaco!

Since this forum has always helped me plan my trips, I will make sure that I share my add experiences in Bogota in this forum.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2801685]Just want to share my gratitude with all the folks here. All your contributions helped me plan my maiden voyage to Bogota. Thank you all!

I will be going to Brazil but stopping over in Bogota on my way back for few days in the first month of May.

I booked my airport pick up with Colombian Buddy company. The also provide you a Colombian phone SIM card at the pickup. Airport pickup by an English speaking person along with the SIM card cost me US $46. Maybe a lot for Bogota but I have piece of mind that there will be someone waiting for me at the airport late night with a SIM card.

I will be arriving late night so I have booked the Woodman tour for the next day afternoon. I remember taking the legendary "Pops" tour in Costa Rica. We became instant friends and he always looked after me whenever I was in San Jose. Hoping to strike the same chord with our Woodman.

Besides having some good times in the evening, I am planning to visit places like Plaza de Bolivar, Monserrate, Botero Museum and maybe a trip to the Salt Cathedral. And eating Ajiaco!

Since this forum has always helped me plan my trips, I will make sure that I share my add experiences in Bogota in this forum.[/QUOTE]Monserrate, there is an excellent restaurant when you get up to Monserrate, the Lobster is very good there. Also I'm not sure where you live but if you live on the coast, like I do be prepared for the 10,000 feet plus elevation if you go the first day or so of your arrival it can be difficult to breath. Be safe.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2801742]Monserrate, there is an excellent restaurant when you get up to Monserrate, the Lobster is very good there. Also I'm not sure where you live but if you live on the coast, like I do be prepared for the 10,000 feet plus elevation if you go the first day or so of your arrival it can be difficult to breath. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Monserrate the food is terrible. For Japanese try Ushin, for steaks go to T Bone, for Spanish food try Salinas. Have fun!

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2801742]Monserrate, there is an excellent restaurant when you get up to Monserrate, the Lobster is very good there. Also I'm not sure where you live but if you live on the coast, like I do be prepared for the 10,000 feet plus elevation if you go the first day or so of your arrival it can be difficult to breath. Be safe.[/QUOTE]The you happen to know the name of the restaurant?

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2801867]The you happen to know the name of the restaurant?[/QUOTE]There are two fancy restaurants:

Santa clara is local cuisine. Went there, service was not very good. Disappointment.

San Isidro is european and french cuisine. Haven't been there. This is the one that serves lobster.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2801685]Just want to share my gratitude with all the folks here. All your contributions helped me plan my maiden voyage to Bogota. Thank you all!

I will be going to Brazil but stopping over in Bogota on my way back for few days in the first month of May.

I booked my airport pick up with Colombian Buddy company. The also provide you a Colombian phone SIM card at the pickup. Airport pickup by an English speaking person along with the SIM card cost me US $46. Maybe a lot for Bogota but I have piece of mind that there will be someone waiting for me at the airport late night with a SIM card.

I will be arriving late night so I have booked the Woodman tour for the next day afternoon. I remember taking the legendary "Pops" tour in Costa Rica. We became instant friends and he always looked after me whenever I was in San Jose. Hoping to strike the same chord with our Woodman.

Besides having some good times in the evening, I am planning to visit places like Plaza de Bolivar, Monserrate, Botero Museum and maybe a trip to the Salt Cathedral. And eating Ajiaco!

Since this forum has always helped me plan my trips, I will make sure that I share my add experiences in Bogota in this forum.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't recommend the salt cathedral. But I do recommend the trip to "El Dorado" lake. It is near Tomine dam about an hour from Bogota direction north. There is a 40 minutes guided hike available in English. Really nice trip. Loved it.

Hey everyone,

I'm planning a trip to Bogota around September. I'm wondering if it's a good idea to bring streetwalkers back to your hotel, bnb, or wherever your staying at or just go through photopregos or agencies?

[QUOTE=RyckII;2802185]I wouldn't recommend the salt cathedral. But I do recommend the trip to "El Dorado" lake. It is near Tomine dam about an hour from Bogota direction north. There is a 40 minutes guided hike available in English. Really nice trip. Loved it.[/QUOTE]I went to the Cathedral of Salt my first time in Colombia and I loved it. I remember the taxi charging 50,000 pesos for there and back. I guess I will add El Dorado lake to my list for next time. Thanks for the tip.

[QUOTE=Douglas212;2802198]Hey everyone,

I'm planning a trip to Bogota around September. I'm wondering if it's a good idea to bring streetwalkers back to your hotel, bnb, or wherever your staying at or just go through photopregos or agencies?[/QUOTE]There are many SGs that work in clubs too. I think getting to bang an SG is a great cheap pre qualifier to a longer date. If you meet one you like maybe take her to lunch in SF area to get to know her better after banging her hard.

I pesonally have met many super hot SG's (6-8+) and seen them later. But mostly I just have quickees with them, LOL, I have banged so many and there are always new ones.

Good Luck-.

[QUOTE=Marglo;2801774]Monserrate the food is terrible. For Japanese try Ushin, for steaks go to T Bone, for Spanish food try Salinas. Have fun![/QUOTE]He was speaking of going to Moneratte, the mountain church. I was referring to Monserrate the mountain not the restaurant. The restaurant Monserrate Parrilla, is a steak restaurant and not very good. I don't believe they even serve Lobster. The restaurant I like is Casa San Isidro. Excellent. You are talking about Pajares Salinas, Cra 10 96-08 no where near the mountain. It's a Tapas restaurant in Chico Norte rwo blocks from my hotel for the last 10 years. It's excellent, although a bit stuffy and sedate, lots of Businessmen and politicians with their trophy wives. The Tapas is good as with the Serrano Ham. I always ask for a table in William's selection, an excellent waiter.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2801867]The you happen to know the name of the restaurant?[/QUOTE]Casa San Isidro. The base of the mountain is in Candelaria a very cool. Old city type vibe. However, Not very safe, especially at night, don't go there then. IF you get up toward the Mall, Unicentro Bogota in Chico Navarra area is my favorite restaurant Jacques Pasteleria. https://www.facebook.com/JacquesPaginaOficial/ Your date will love it. Enjoy, be safe.

[QUOTE=Douglas212;2802198]Hey everyone,

I'm planning a trip to Bogota around September. I'm wondering if it's a good idea to bring streetwalkers back to your hotel, bnb, or wherever your staying at or just go through photopregos or agencies?[/QUOTE]Just be sure that the place you stay allows visitors. Many places do not.

[QUOTE=RyckII;2802184]There are two fancy restaurants:

Santa clara is local cuisine. Went there, service was not very good. Disappointment.

San Isidro is european and french cuisine. Haven't been there. This is the one that serves lobster.[/QUOTE]Santa Clara is mostly open only for lunch, San Isidro in the evenings, apart from at Christmas, iirc. Santa Clara is more casual but the service has been ok whenever I've been. By Colombian standards, of course. If you judge Colombia by anything else you're going to be badly disappointed.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2802342]Casa San Isidro. The base of the mountain is in Candelaria a very cool. Old city type vibe. However, Not very safe, especially at night, don't go there then. IF you get up toward the Mall, Unicentro Bogota in Chico Navarra area is my favorite restaurant Jacques Pasteleria. https://www.facebook.com/JacquesPaginaOficial/ Your date will love it. Enjoy, be safe.[/QUOTE]I've often walked by this but never had the time to stop. I've clearly missed out!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2802204]I went to the Cathedral of Salt my first time in Colombia and I loved it. I remember the taxi charging 50,000 pesos for there and back. I guess I will add El Dorado lake to my list for next time. Thanks for the tip.[/QUOTE]50 k to Zip and back? That must have been a very long time past! : the.

[QUOTE=RyckII;2802185]I wouldn't recommend the salt cathedral. But I do recommend the trip to "El Dorado" lake. It is near Tomine dam about an hour from Bogota direction north. There is a 40 minutes guided hike available in English. Really nice trip. Loved it.[/QUOTE]Laguna Guatavita, [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Guatavita.[/URL] iirc the guided tour is now the only way to see it, after years of erosion and destruction by the locals. I've never managed to have the tour in English though and some of the vocabulary is a bit specialized for my Spanish.

Agree, worth the trip.

I wouldn't totally dis the Salt Cathedral, though there's a more interesting mine, imo, at Nemocón.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;2802576]50 k to Zip and back? That must have been a very long time past! : the.[/QUOTE]It was 2005. I am sure the exchange rate was less than half of what it is now. So it was probably $25 where as today that same peso figure would be $10.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2802590]It was 2005. I am sure the exchange rate was less than half of what it is now. So it was probably $25 where as today that same peso figure would be $10.[/QUOTE]If it still runs, there's a train that runs to the Salt Cathedral and some town in that direction.

More so than in other mongering places, some of the Sg's also come into the clubs. Noticed that more in bar California / Texas and sometimes Venus than others. In addition many of the club girls rotate between clubs. The price for the street girls (and bar girls) are so inexpensive that you are better off banging them, getting a BJ / BBBJ or whatever else you negotiate and doing it in Santa Fe whether it be seeing them in one of the clubs and taking them upstairs or going into one of the rooms of the places they stand in front of. You're going to get a good idea for what their attitude is, personality, body under the clothes, etc. Then if everything checks out spend some time with her.

I noticed in Bogota more than other mongering places I've been to a large amount of the girls are willing to share their WhatsApp info and keep in touch after a session. I have 2 cuties info who regularly post to their WhatsApp stories so it's always nice checking out them being civvies knowing my face was buried in their pussy and I cummed down their throat for less than $30 LOL. It's also kinda cool just seeing them be normal. Admittedly I can see how it would be easy to be sucked into any drama that goes on in their life as some are really cute but you have to try to resist. I block the ones that ask for money and keep the ones that occasionally send a Hi and reminding me to contact them when I'm down in Bogota again. I know there's ulterior motives of when I'm there charging to go on a date, a meal, etc but if this type of date thing works for you then the club girls were great for this.

Just as in every other city I would be cautious about bringing any street girl back to my room if I didn't have things of value locked up. These girls don't make a lot of money and sometimes the temptation of an expensive item left out on a hotel counter may be too much even for the ones that seem nice.

Personally there's so many girls there that depending on how long you have I wouldn't even waste my time going through the hassle of negotiating a price for them coming back to your hotel, getting a taxi, paying for them to go back, their time, guest fees, etc etc. I would just have whatever fun you want down there in SF. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Douglas212;2802198]Hey everyone,

I'm planning a trip to Bogota around September. I'm wondering if it's a good idea to bring streetwalkers back to your hotel, bnb, or wherever your staying at or just go through photopregos or agencies?[/QUOTE]

Just wanted to piggy back onto this about taxis. I had zero luck with Uber or didi ever bringing me back to the ibis. Don't know if it's because of Santa Fe or if it's because it's a short ride and so not much money for the driver to do it. Getting to Santa Fe is usually the easy part as you're probably going there when there are a multitude of options (bus, taxi, ride share, walking) but getting back it helps to not be too intimidated by the small taxis driving all over the place.

When you get in there's usually some form of a tiny box with numbers somewhere around the roof of the car either on the passenger side or next to the driver. That's the fare cost. It never went higher than 7500 pesos for me when going from the clubs back to the ibis museo so I always had a 10 k note that I'the keep in a separate pocket for my ride home. If they're driving just stare at a driver as he's driving towards you and put your hand out. Others will wait outside the clubs. I got friendly with some meseros while there and they always got me a taxi when I let them know I was finished for the night. I got ripped off once but I knew it going in and didn't know enough Spanish nor did I care when the guy said it would be 20 k cop to do the same 7500 k cop ride. I didn't tip him obviously. Last tip is screenshot your hotel directions in google maps or whatever you use and screenshot the map of the road the driver needs to take. Some just plain don't know where the hotel is and you have to use hand gestures to tell them where to drive and some will look at your phone to know where to go. Screenshot it as sometimes depending on who you have for cell phone service it's f annoying when you don't have a signal and it takes forever yo get the directions on your phone for the driver.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2801393]Good post, JDS. Fiebre has Gatorade which is a nice change from the other clubs that have water only. I did the Woodman tour, and he is a great guy, but what I saw the most was that SF was really not that dangerous and Woodman confirmed it. There are cops all around.

Main danger I heard was getting your beer spiked. Like you, I am not a big drinker and think it is better to keep your wits about you when in SF.

Only other thing to say is you can get Uber to take you there, but it is hell getting one to come pick you up. I have leaned to go for the taxis when leaving but they tend not to be too bright with directions so I have had to use google maps.

For hotels, Ibis let me bring guests back, but the rooms are on par with Motel 6. I heard Hotel Oceania was nice but there was a guest fee, but my favorite hotel that is about a five minute cab ride away, the NH 26 urban royal. I am not sure about guests there, but the buffet and rooms are really nice.

That area also has an Anytime Fitness, only one in Colombia I think.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2802971]Just wanted to piggy back onto this about taxis. I had zero luck with Uber or didi ever bringing me back to the ibis. Don't know if it's because of Santa Fe or if it's because it's a short ride and so not much money for the driver to do it.[/QUOTE]It must be Santa Fe because Uber doesn't tell drivers the drop off point unless they mark on their system that they have picked up the ride so they don't know where are you going till they pick you up.

Also, most of the Uber drivers like the short rides. The more rides they get, the more money they make. They actually hate the long rides. I was once in a situation where I had to get to JFK Airport to catch my flight and I was planning to take Amtrak from DC to New York. A train derailed that morning and all the trains got cancelled. Then all the buses got full. I had no option but to get an Uber. I tried that and one after another Uber driver turned me down. All of them got to where I was and as soon as they saw the destination on their system, they refused the ride.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2803041]It must be Santa Fe because Uber doesn't tell drivers the drop off point unless they mark on their system that they have picked up the ride so they don't know where are you going till they pick you up.

Also, most of the Uber drivers like the short rides. The more rides they get, the more money they make. They actually hate the long rides. I was once in a situation where I had to get to JFK Airport to catch my flight and I was planning to take Amtrak from DC to New York. A train derailed that morning and all the trains got cancelled. Then all the buses got full. I had no option but to get an Uber. I tried that and one after another Uber driver turned me down. All of them got to where I was and as soon as they saw the destination on their system, they refused the ride.[/QUOTE]Makes sense, an Uber driver will come back from JFK to DC with 250 deadhead miles (aka empty; aka 4-6 hrs wasted; aka $ for gas for dead miles). Why would anyone accept that fare? Not sure how DC does it but had it been the other way around, NYC Taxi Limo Comm which regulates Uber drivers has a deadhead miles provision for rides starting in NYC. Would've hella expensive for your ride if you started out in NYC (only the 5 boros). This is not for NY state as a whole to be clear for those not familiar.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2803041]It must be Santa Fe because Uber doesn't tell drivers the drop off point unless they mark on their system that they have picked up the ride so they don't know where are you going till they pick you up.

Also, most of the Uber drivers like the short rides. The more rides they get, the more money they make. They actually hate the long rides. I was once in a situation where I had to get to JFK Airport to catch my flight and I was planning to take Amtrak from DC to New York. A train derailed that morning and all the trains got cancelled. Then all the buses got full. I had no option but to get an Uber. I tried that and one after another Uber driver turned me down. All of them got to where I was and as soon as they saw the destination on their system, they refused the ride.[/QUOTE]I understand the analogy, but I don't think it's the best one here regarding distance between cities vs within. And also in Bogota vs the usa. I've had no issues the last 6 months getting an Uber to or out of Santa Fe no matter if it's 8 pm or 1:00 am. The drivers picking up are usually a lot of fun to talk to as well, since they know what you were up to. Data point is back and forth to central chapinero.

I think it's more about their ability to get other riders. I have no way of knowing, but I don't have issues between high volume / not magority residential locations. Also Uber in Colombia is a different model than the usa, so it's possible they see different things in Colombia. You are renting or leasing the driver here. In USA I believe the driver does get a notice that it's a greater than 45 minute ride.

The Uber problems I have is for my girlfriends that are very very north and like Carrera 90-100, and only after like 9 pm when I am getting them a ride home.

Hello,

Has anyone availed her services?

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/promo-80k-karen-rica-morena-sexosa-ardiente-y-complaciente-zona-norte-con-sit/18183159/[/URL]

Trying to line up ladies for my maiden trip to Bogota.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2803674]Hello,

Has anyone availed her services?

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/promo-80k-karen-rica-morena-sexosa-ardiente-y-complaciente-zona-norte-con-sit/18183159/[/URL]

Trying to line up ladies for my maiden trip to Bogota.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Since this is your maiden voyage, I recommend you avail yourself of verified providers from sites and places mentioned on this forum and others. And those verified from doncolombia dot com, not sure if I can ref that site here, not trying to break any rules. Doncol is my go to place for verified providers. Miller and other prepagos sites have so many fakes, and no-shows. You can waste a lot of valuable time.

[QUOTE=FlashShaker;2803865]Since this is your maiden voyage, I recommend you avail yourself of verified providers from sites and places mentioned on this forum and others. And those verified from doncolombia dot com, not sure if I can ref that site here, not trying to break any rules. Doncol is my go to place for verified providers. Miller and other prepagos sites have so many fakes, and no-shows. You can waste a lot of valuable time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice and I have experienced no shows and fake profiles in other countries but this girl, for me, looks hot enough to take the risk. She does video calls so I will probably do that before asking her to come over.

Thanks again.

Guys I am currently at Bogota and made a bad experience with a girl from photoprepagos. It is this profile: [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/chapinero/una-chica-tierna-exquisita-de-18-a%C3%B1os-nueva-id-2ta42[/URL].

So I made an appointment today at the Hotel and of course said to the girl she should bring her cedula with her. In the chat I also asked her several times if she is at least 18 or older because I don't want to get in trouble. The price was 230 Cop for one hour without adicionales. When we went in the hotel the reception guys didn't ask for the cedula so she was not registered. In the hotel room I fucked her about 30 minutes and to be honest I never had a girl with such a bad performance. She just was laying on her back and did 30 minutes absolutely nothing, but saying she has dolores. After I came in her she said that she has another client so now so she has to go. I said that I don't give her the full money if she not stays one hour. After having an argument, a gave up, because I didn't want to call the security service (she was not registered) so I gave her 230 Cop. Actually I also didn't want to fuck her anyway twice, she was so bad.

10 Minutes after she left I got several messages from unknown numbers in whatsapp. They sent me my Whatsapp picture with a writing on it - "se busca pedofile. Tiene pornografia con ninos 6 a 7 anos etc. " I could not believe what was going on. Then several numbers tried to call me at whatsapp. It was just so ridiculous.

I decided to delete this whatsapp profile (anyway it was just for the holiday.) and made a new account.

Do you have a suggestions to me that this Shit will not Lappen tomorrow again to me?

[QUOTE=Gringo2019;2803943]Guys I am currently at Bogota and made a bad experience with a girl from photoprepagos. It is this profile: [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/chapinero/una-chica-tierna-exquisita-de-18-a%C3%B1os-nueva-id-2ta42[/URL].

So I made an appointment today at the Hotel and of course said to the girl she should bring her cedula with her. In the chat I also asked her several times if she is at least 18 or older because I don't want to get in trouble. The price was 230 Cop for one hour without adicionales. When we went in the hotel the reception guys didn't ask for the cedula so she was not registered. In the hotel room I fucked her about 30 minutes and to be honest I never had a girl with such a bad performance. She just was laying on her back and did 30 minutes absolutely nothing, but saying she has dolores. After I came in her she said that she has another client so now so she has to go. I said that I don't give her the full money if she not stays one hour. After having an argument, a gave up, because I didn't want to call the security service (she was not registered) so I gave her 230 Cop. Actually I also didn't want to fuck her anyway twice, she was so bad.

10 Minutes after she left I got several messages from unknown numbers in whatsapp. They sent me my Whatsapp picture with a writing on it - "se busca pedofile. Tiene pornografia con ninos 6 a 7 anos etc. " I could not believe what was going on. Then several numbers tried to call me at whatsapp. It was just so ridiculous.

I decided to delete this whatsapp profile (anyway it was just for the holiday.) and made a new account.

Do you have a suggestions to me that this Shit will not Lappen tomorrow again to me?[/QUOTE]Maybe go to Santa Fe or a casa so you can pre qualify for an extended date-- Get the girls info if you liked the session and then you know better-.

So noticed an interesting phenominom compared to when I first got here. I used to head to Fiebre when I got here and not know any Spanish so I often found girls quoting 150 k for the session, which I'd have to negotiate down to 120 k. Now I speak some decent conversational Spanish and new girls that come often quote 120 k and a few 100 k (usually girls with a sillicone look). I figured there'd be just a general gringo tax, but from the small sample size Spanish does seem to make a difference.

On to the main part though, I had some questions about overnight pricing? Anyone know how much I should expect to be charged for overnight sessions with some of the girls from Santa Fe clubs? I'm primarily looking for pricing for girls from Fiebre. Mainly because the other clubs have lower pricing (e. G. , at Venus there's girls that charge 60 k but the hottest girls at Fiebre charge 120 k to locals). There's one girl I took back to my hotel a couple times for longer sesssions, where she charged 200 k / h first time we went for 2 hours. I made the mistake of extending hourly one time, and ended up going with 800 k for 4 hours. But I was able to go back and forth a couple times and change future sessions to 750 k for 5 hours then 700 k for overnight. I read some previous reports but I don't know how accurate things are to current pricing. Or maybe how to go about the negotiation process (which I imagine is more extensive than short times).

Example there's this post: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=2760251&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2760251.

Lots of people were mentioning he made tons of mistakes and messed up on prices. Which I could see for the prices and paid for drinks and and within the club (who pays the club for condoms? But the one overnight session paid with cash (not an iPhone LOL) came out to 500 k.

Then there's this post: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=2728562&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2728562.

Mentions that overnight pricing can go from 300 k to 800 k depending on the girl, day, and time at night. But it also mentions 30 k /40 k lap dances in Fiebre. Which far as I know isn't a thing (only Venus)? He does mention 700 k / night for a girl he booked from Fiebre for 8 pm to 10 am. But unfortunately the report is from quite a while ago.

[QUOTE=Gringo2019;2803943]Guys I am currently at Bogota and made a bad experience with a girl from photoprepagos. It is this profile: [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/chapinero/una-chica-tierna-exquisita-de-18-a%C3%B1os-nueva-id-2ta42[/URL].
...
I decided to delete this whatsapp profile (anyway it was just for the holiday.) and made a new account.

Do you have a suggestions to me that this Shit will not Lappen tomorrow again to me?[/QUOTE]Her profile says she's "18" what were you expecting? With all due respect, don't engage yourself with girls close to or looks like they can be 18 or 17 or under. Too much risk and too much to lose. You're here for a good time, not a long time. Move up to 23 and up and avoid sh1 t like this. Not saying its your fault but yes, it is your fault LOL.

[QUOTE=FlashShaker;2804249]Her profile says she's "18" what were you expecting? With all due respect, don't engage yourself with girls close to or looks like they can be 18 or 17 or under. Too much risk and too much to lose. You're here for a good time, not a long time. Move up to 23 and up and avoid sh1 t like this. Not saying its your fault but yes, it is your fault LOL.[/QUOTE]This doesn't seem like the right advice? The correct advice here would have been to just register her at the hotel as a guest. Registering the person is for your own protection. The hotel checks age, and it also helps if something goes wrong with druggings.

[QUOTE=Gringo2019;2803943]So I made an appointment today at the Hotel and of course said to the girl she should bring her cedula with her. In the chat I also asked her several times if she is at least 18 or older because I don't want to get in trouble. When we went in the hotel the reception guys didn't ask for the cedula so she was not registered.[/QUOTE]Why even ask her to bring ID if you did not even plan on looking at it?

[QUOTE=Gringo2019;2803943]The price was 230 Cop for one hour without adicionales. In the hotel room I fucked her about 30 minutes and to be honest I never had a girl with such a bad performance.[/QUOTE]Way too much for a random FL from PP IMHO. There are tons of nice chicks on there for 80,000, 120,000, even 150,0000 (which I personally would not pay either). You found out the hard way that you really don't always get what you pay for.

[QUOTE=Gringo2019;2803943]They sent me my Whatsapp picture with a writing on it - "se busca pedofile.[/QUOTE]Why do you have your picture on your mongering whatsapp?

[QUOTE=Gringo2019;2803943]Do you have a suggestions to me that this Shit will not Lappen tomorrow again to me?[/QUOTE]I would start off by trying to choose a chick with way less random tattoos and words written all over her body. I would not put my picture on my whatsapp. I would actually at least take a look at an ID that I tell someone to bring, if not take a picture of it. I have never had that problem though because like Flashshaker said, I am not out trying to choose chicks that are barely legal.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2804266]This doesn't seem like the right advice? The correct advice here would have been to just register her at the hotel as a guest. Registering the person is for your own protection. The hotel checks age, and it also helps if something goes wrong with druggings.[/QUOTE]To sort of add on. I would use a love motel for random first time online meets. I understand the point about registering, but I've heard from other people that potentially gives her the ability to get a key to your room. Maybe there is different terminology that I am mixing up though. Love motels are anonymous too from your perspective but I've still had them check girls ID if she looks younger. No issues with your stuff and you can just walk out if there is a problem.

Now I'm not suggesting this next part applies to anyone posting on this topic, but obviously if there are concerns anyone should check the I'd yourself. And with the fake IDs that are possible, I wouldn't mess with it unless you are comfortable with the timeline of her life matching up. I'm more talking about seeking girls for me where it's more than just quick sex and I'm talking to them and know more. There's a couple that look young, but I know they did x number of years of college and have the associated job that requires the degree. So they have to be a certain age unless they are the Colombian Dougie Howser. And Santa Fe I don't go near certain girls outa caution. My Spanish isn't good enough to get out of an issue. Is it likely? I don't really know. But there is unlimited sex to be had here with beautiful women, so I play it safe. I want to spend 6+ months a year here and continue being happy.

There are a lot of woodmans listed. How do I get on a Woodman tour or make contact with Woodman?

[QUOTE=StillFun;2805160]There are a lot of woodmans listed. How do I get on a Woodman tour or make contact with Woodman?[/QUOTE]Woodman has a post on the first page of the Bogota thread. If there are more posts then it will go to the 2nd page. Message him or he will probably see this and message you. I give people my WhatsApp via pm to expedite things, so something to consider.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2805429]Woodman has a post on the first page of the Bogota thread. If there are more posts then it will go to the 2nd page. Message him or he will probably see this and message you. I give people my WhatsApp via pm to expedite things, so something to consider.[/QUOTE]I have failed to get in touch with Woodman, and I can't face reading this whole thread though I have read quite a few pages.

I have had a fabulous time in Colombia for 2 months but unfortunately I had a nasty accident on a boat going to Tayrona 6 weeks ago. I am much better now but I still have some lower back pain. This has had a major affect on my sex life. Doesn't help being 72 either. I still cannot do mish without pain and even girl on top isn't easy. So I am reduced to oral and HR.

What I am looking for are girls who are sensitive to issues like this in Bogota or 'massage parlours' where I can have intimacy of an intense sort without penetration. I have been successful with this in Medellin and Cali when I was in a lot more pain. So can anyone recommend any good massage parlours either around La Candelaria where I am at the moment and love, or Chapinero where I am moving to on Monday.

Hey, I got a layover about 4 hours to kill. Anyone know if pussy house is open or is everything closed with santa semena?

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2805792]Hey, I got a layover about 4 hours to kill. Anyone know if pussy house is open or is everything closed with santa semena?[/QUOTE]Even if open probably not good-- Maybe some good street action in Santa Fe-- Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2805804]Even if open probably not good-- Maybe some good street action in Santa Fe-- Good Luck.[/QUOTE]I actually went to SF yeaterday afternoon for lunch and there were a fair amount of girls-- Many average but also some nicer ones too. -- Today probably will be the same as girls got to eat. Many of the girls live in the SF area or not far off.

Hello gents. Thanks for the information. I'm looking for a hotel in Zona Rosa of Bogota that has the same set up as Taormina Hotel (nice rooms, girls on site so you don't have to leave the hotel. Just grab and go upstairs).

Does anyone have suggestions?

Gracias.

[QUOTE=RamblingRickey;2806095]Hello gents. Thanks for the information. I'm looking for a hotel in Zona Rosa of Bogota that has the same set up as Taormina Hotel (nice rooms, girls on site so you don't have to leave the hotel. Just grab and go upstairs).

Does anyone have suggestions?

Gracias.[/QUOTE]I have no experience-- I think a few guys here might.

I think it is in Zona Rosa or was.

[URL]https://flirthotelbogota.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2806155]I have no experience-- I think a few guys here might.

I think it is in Zona Rosa or was.

[URL]https://flirthotelbogota.com[/URL][/QUOTE]You might look at this. But I think it is a very different business than the hotels in Costa Rica. At the Taormina the girls are totally independent of the hotel, but they can be there to solicit your company and you can take them to your room. This one is more of a high end brothel it would seem. But try it and post something, there has been almost nothing said about it as far as I have seen.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2806275]You might look at this. But I think it is a very different business than the hotels in Costa Rica. At the Taormina the girls are totally independent of the hotel, but they can be there to solicit your company and you can take them to your room. This one is more of a high end brothel it would seem. But try it and post something, there has been almost nothing said about it as far as I have seen.[/QUOTE]At $1500 USD per night (and I don't think that includes the girl) it's probably a bit more than Costa Rica.

Friday santa fe was pretty quiet, one club was open with very few girls. Street was also pretty empty.

Things started back on Saturday but even then I found it kind of low in comparison to what I use to see.

Did not visit yesterday, I went to party with a girl and her family in a neighborhood called santo domingo, that was unexpectedly fun. Lots of beers (65 k pesos for too many beer for all of us) Loud music in the house, turned the light off and dance / twerk almost all night. Although I was clearly hesitant to go, thinking it would be a bit too quiet for me, guess what, they were hard to follow. Rarely seen that in my life. Ok there were no 8+ but the mood to me was way worth it.

I just wrapped up another trip to Bogota and besides having an otherwise productive trip, sampled a couple new escort chicas and found a decent massage place.

I've generally had good experiences with eroticasbogota dot com and this time had Ivonne come to my hotel. She speaks english pretty well; I didn't like her tattoos that are airbrushed out of her photos, but she's still very hot and young. She was pretty much silent and didn't give any feedback during the session, so moved through a few positions and came in doggy, she has a very nice ass. I wouldn't really recommend/repeat. 270mil for an hour.

Second on the escort track was Nicol from encountersvip. She advertises as 18, but told me she was 19. Close enough, and she looks younger. Showed up on time at my hotel on only a couple hours notice wearing*a full length sundress and no bra. Super cute little chica who speaks english very well. She is very petite and tight - sex with her felt like a vice grip around my cock. This was also a much more interactive session than Ivonne. Damage was 250mil for an hour.

A couple of other days, I went looking for a massage parlor that was alluded to by NichoBaux a few pages ago on the corner of calle 25/ carrera 32 near Corferias. Successfully found it in an unsigned white building on the corner. Press the black doorbell, not the white one. I went twice, and each time they had 4 to 6 reasonably good looking girls. They charge 190 mil for FS. I don't remember their names but the first girl had shorter hair and lots of tats. She somewhat rushed the session, but did the massage with oil and was fun to fuck. Second girl had longer dyed hair. Kind of looked like a zebra for lack of a better description, but very hot body. She took her time pretending to do a massage and hanging out mostly naked on top of me. Moved through a few positions. Took advantage of her long hair to*pull on while fucking her in doggy in front of the mirror. With one pop sessions like these I usually just want to fuck and go home.

Finally, grabbed my usual Bogota based chica and went to Cartagena for a long weekend. She asks a very reasonable rate for weekend trips with me, in this case, 800 mil for 3 nights /4 days, but that's obviously in addition to the fully paid vacation she gets. Still a good deal in my opinion. *.

Love Colombia, though I am beginning to run out of excuses to make trips down here. Never gets old being able to fuck a pretty much unlimited roster of 20 somethings for less than it would cost to take a girl on a date back home in the US, buy her a couple of drinks and then probably wind up going home alone. Aside from the girls, just worked during the day and enjoyed trying out different restaurants at night. Attempted and failed to do the Monserrate hike. That climb and the elevation in Bogota is no joke!

I Love Talking Dirty to my hoes-.

Me Gusta Tu Cuca--Muy Rica Muy Majado.

I love your pussy -- me gusta tu cuca -- te gusta tu trabajo, sexo conmigo? Con tu Cuca?

Then after I lose my cookies I say -- me disculpa-- soy malo.

On another note, I just found a Hot MILF-- She is Hot and Cheap!

Hot Great nasty sex with a 30 yo MILF for about $25 mil -- 2 times dos ratos-.

Than go have some fried chicken or a Swarma wrap.

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Are there any establishments like Tijuana's Hong Kong in Bogota? Anywhere that has rooms at the establishment that you can use that way you don't have to bring them to your place or get a hotel room at a separate location?

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2807034]

On another note, I just found a Hot MILF-- She is Hot and Cheap!

Hot Great nasty sex with a 30 yo MILF for about $25 mil -- 2 times dos ratos-.

Than go have some fried chicken or a Swarma wrap.[/QUOTE]I think zero but if you add up the numbers. LOL Woodman is scoring over 1,000.

A few weeks ago I noticed a new venue right next to tantra run by the same place. It's called Tantra bar and it has a casa layout. Says they are open 2 hours later and they serve booze. I've been twice and quoted 60 k for medio. First time didn't include bbj and I was so used to not negotiating at Tantra that I didn't ask. Second time I negotiated some extras and got bbj without asking. No rooms on premise, so you walk outside and use Tantras rooms.

There are some pretty cute girls there. But not so different from Tantra. So given how many girls are at Tantra and the no negotiating needed for bbj, I'm not clear of the benefit yet. Obviously aside if you find a perfect girl for you. Which I did. But then again I find the perfect girl a lot at regular Tantra too.

[QUOTE=Gblud;2807529]Are there any establishments like Tijuana's Hong Kong in Bogota? Anywhere that has rooms at the establishment that you can use that way you don't have to bring them to your place or get a hotel room at a separate location?[/QUOTE]There are 8+ clubs in SF all have rooms.

[QUOTE=Gblud;2807529]Are there any establishments like Tijuana's Hong Kong in Bogota? Anywhere that has rooms at the establishment that you can use that way you don't have to bring them to your place or get a hotel room at a separate location?[/QUOTE]Practically every strip club, casa and massage parlors has rooms on site.

I am getting ready for my 1st trip to Bogota. A lot of help from the many posts and others answering my questions, scheduling my Woodman tour. I will be coming from Wed to Sunday in June. I will be going to the Santa Fe clubs a lot. I will stay at Hotel Tequendema or maybe Chapinero. I will try escort Eroticas once or twice, so I will have to confirm if they will come to Santa Fe / Tequendema. The two girls I really want are:

[URL]https://eroticasbogota.com/modelo/danna/[/URL]

[URL]https://eroticasbogota.com/modelo/angelica/[/URL]

Unfortunately they are 550 k and 700 k / hour. 2 of their most expensive girls. The pictures I can't fully trust, when it gets closer I will ask if they'll give me regular phone camera pictures. Is it possible to find girls this attractive at the SF clubs or casas, Loutron, Lido?

I likely will try at least 1 girl for the convenience of having 1 day session as well as the excitement of trying it and reporting back. I know Atunes is open during day, but I don't know what to expect. But if I can find these types (natural or plastic, don't care) for even150 K / HR at the clubs as a new gringo that would save a lot of money & I could try the girl in the club and decide to bring her later.

I know there are a lot of street girls for so much cheaper, but the ones I saw on the YouTube videos weren't my tastes. Looks are a premium for me, even if a 6 or 7 gives an amazing performance I'm not stimulated enough as I would with an 8 or 9 that gives average performance, especially if with condom.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2802204]I went to the Cathedral of Salt my first time in Colombia and I loved it. I remember the taxi charging 50,000 pesos for there and back. I guess I will add El Dorado lake to my list for next time. Thanks for the tip.[/QUOTE]I'm planning on doing this next week for the first time myself. Was this a yellow taxi you too or an uber?

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2807700]There are 8+ clubs in SF all have rooms.[/QUOTE]You ever seen a midget in Sante Fe?

I'm returning to Bogotá next month and will be exploring Santa Fé again from 8th May until probably 12th or 13th. If anyone fancies meeting up for a few drinks and exploring SF, let me know.

Hi,

Any recommendations (general or specific) on lacelestina or modelo alacarta agencies?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2808333]You ever seen a midget in Sante Fe?[/QUOTE]I have seen 2-3 midgets in the South stroll, I know there are 2 for last couple of years or so.

Hello! I'd like to share a bad experience I had at Texas (Santa Fe).

May it remind you to always check the prices, especially in "shady", non regular business.

Basically they ripped me off, they made me pay 70.000 for 2 beers. I caught them trying to serve me more drinks I didn't ask for and had to physically stop them to open the bottles.

I tried to argue with my basic Spanish but of course it was useless.

I could feel the situation escalate so I just left the money on the counter and quickly left, not worth to be assaulted over this.

In the end it wasn't much money, but be wary about this kind of things, I never had any problem in 4 months totals in Colombia so I dropped my guard down.

I tend to consume much more, not only beers, and what if they felt braver with this ripoff?

So take care guys!

(sorry if my English is not proper).

[QUOTE=Soupir;2808772]Hello! I'd like to share a bad experience I had at Texas (Santa Fe).

May it remind you to always check the prices, especially in "shady", non regular business.

Basically they ripped me off, they made me pay 70.000 for 2 beers. I caught them trying to serve me more drinks I didn't ask for and had to physically stop them to open the bottles.

I tried to argue with my basic Spanish but of course it was useless.

I could feel the situation escalate so I just left the money on the counter and quickly left, not worth to be assaulted over this.

In the end it wasn't much money, but be wary about this kind of things, I never had any problem in 4 months totals in Colombia so I dropped my guard down..[/QUOTE]Yes-- it is a good idea to ask prices-- This kind of rip-off happens in Texas and California clubs more often-- And it only happens to gringos.

Some have more problems than others-- I believe I read here that it happened in Troya-.

If you had refused you could have paid less without much problem-.

Regular Beers in Reality are 8 mil -- typically the waiters say 10 mil-.

[QUOTE=Mtndew704;2808333]You ever seen a midget in Sante Fe?[/QUOTE]Yup a super old sw.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2809293]Yes-- it is a good idea to ask prices-- This kind of rip-off happens in Texas and California clubs more often-- And it only happens to gringos.

Some have more problems than others-- I believe I read here that it happened in Troya-.

If you had refused you could have paid less without much problem-.

Regular Beers in Reality are 8 mil -- typically the waiters say 10 mil-.[/QUOTE]ISG the Biggest Hooker advice / Guide in the world should have an edit function- Something to consider, Just Saying.

Always best to have change when going to SF-- people like to play games with your change. I have seen waiters disapear-- Many waiters are honest but there are problems-- Happens in Texas, California and Venus sometimes--get your waiters number on shirt-- Better yet bring 20's, 10's and smaller-.

Girls will sometimes try and succeed to keep part or all- Not my GFs but that's why they are my GFs-.

Anyhow-- Get Down here and Bang!!

One good place to get change is the Montana phacy with 50 cent viagra-- Works Great!

Something somewhat similar happened to me in Paisas. Like woodman said pretty much all regular drinks are 8 mil (water, Gatorade, poker beer) and I just give the guy a 10 and they usually appreciate the 2 mil tip (50 cents so no biggie). If I want a beer I just ask for a poker. It's drinkable and no different than a bud. Nothing great, not bad.

For some reason, corona in Colombia seems to be a premium beer. I can't stand it but if you see the mesero walk over with one tell him no. The guy in paisas got me by opening it up as I was saying no and then saying it was something stupid like 50 mil. I did my best wtf and gtfo look and some basic Spanish of the same but what am I going to do. I paid the 50, no tip, and left after I drank it as it was slow in there anyways.

My tip is to break your 50's and 100's at a local OXXO. Across the road from the Ibis Museo there's one so each day I would get a water and candy and pay with a 50 or 100 and they happily give change back. Always try and pay with 10's for drinks and at the most 20 mil. If you go higher then that the mesero will typically disappear and have to find change. Once at troya I saw my guy walk up to the bar to get change, they told him no, he then walked out and about 10 minutes later came back with 35 mil. Should have been change of 40 mil but I didn't complain as who knows where he ended up going to get my change. Anyways, point is don't pay for 1 x10 mil beer with a 50 or larger. You'll end up having to remember who your mesero is otherwise.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2809293]Yes-- it is a good idea to ask prices-- This kind of rip-off happens in Texas and California clubs more often-- And it only happens to gringos.

Some have more problems than others-- I believe I read here that it happened in Troya-.

If you had refused you could have paid less without much problem-.

Regular Beers in Reality are 8 mil -- typically the waiters say 10 mil-.[/QUOTE]

Everyone else has said the same thing but just to be clear, The only difference between HK in Tijuana and the clubs in Santa Fe is that there's no hotel that you can stay the night at attached to the club like Hotel Cascadas.

Everything else is the same. You negotiate with the girls downstairs in the club and then you go upstairs to the rooms to do your thing. But as mentioned the room isn't like your hotel room where you can leave your stuff. It's more like when you go to HK and you didn't book a night at the Cascadas. But if you're coming from Tijuana you'll be surprised at the cost benefit here.

Tijuana Hong Kong -.

Girl -$100 usd +.

Overnight stay at Cascadas - $70+.

VIP card to get discount. Think it's $60/70.

Room cost if you don't stay overnight (going by memory) - $20.

Santa Fe club:

Girls - $30 usd +.

Room to do your thing. Included.

Beer - $2.50 usd.

A couple of cuties that were taking my leche in their mouth the last time I was there for less than the cost of 1 girl in Tijuana. Viva Bogota!!

[QUOTE=Gblud;2807529]Are there any establishments like Tijuana's Hong Kong in Bogota? Anywhere that has rooms at the establishment that you can use that way you don't have to bring them to your place or get a hotel room at a separate location?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2809293]Yes-- it is a good idea to ask prices-- This kind of rip-off happens in Texas and California clubs more often-- And it only happens to gringos.

Some have more problems than others-- I believe I read here that it happened in Troya-.

If you had refused you could have paid less without much problem-.

Regular Beers in Reality are 8 mil -- typically the waiters say 10 mil-.[/QUOTE]Yep. The waiters at Troya don't appear to be uniformed employees, but freelancers who are allowed to assume the role of waitstaff. Another problem with Troya is that when I went to take a piss, someone had taken my beer away and another party was sitting at my table. Troya is a fun place, but you are really exposed there.

I think it was back in 2017 when I was in Santa Fe, I also had some clown on the street direct me into one club whose name I can't recall (it was pretty gritty) and take my drink order once I got seated. Then I got a drink from an actual uniformed waiter and he charged me 3 mil less! That pissed off the clown who directed me to the club (actually he misdirected me to a different club, that's why I don't talk to guys on the street now) and told me that I had to order drinks from him. I ignored him, got another drink from a waiter before I eventually left and found the place I was looking for.

But it was last November that I got ripped off at the California Club. That place is the worst. The waiters, who wear varsity jackets were pestering me the who time I was there. I couldn't enjoy my beer and watch the show without my waiter them asking me every other minute if I needed another beer or if I wanted a girl, yet. I got so tired of it, I closed my tab for one beer gave my waiter a 50 k note (it's all I had, but I had fully expected to be spending more money there) for the one beer I had. They accepted cards there but I definitely would not give plastic to anyone down there. So the waiter disappeared and didn't return with the change. I got tired of waiting on my change, the guy wasn't in sight and it became obvious that he wasn't bringing the change back. When I walked out, I looked up at that balcony above the dance floor and saw the waiter and his pals laughing at me. Assholes. Don't go there! I had forgotten that I went into that place back in 2017 and had a disappointing experience there, back then. Again, I would suggest everyone avoid the place. It's bad news.

BTW, I went back to the Pussy House earlier the same evening. They have professional waiters but the place looked rather tired since I last visited in 2017. It was a nice club, back then. But, there weren't any attractive girls there on my last visit, which is a sad thing in a country where the women can be so attractive.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2809559]Yep. The waiters at Troya don't appear to be uniformed employees, but freelancers who are allowed to assume the role of waitstaff. Another problem with Troya is that when I went to take a piss, someone had taken my beer away and another party was sitting at my table. Troya is a fun place, but you are really exposed there.

I think it was back in 2017 when I was in Santa Fe, I also had some clown on the street direct me into one club whose name I can't recall (it was pretty gritty) and take my drink order once I got seated. Then I got a drink from an actual uniformed waiter and he charged me 3 mil less! That pissed off the clown who directed me to the club (actually he misdirected me to a different club, that's why I don't talk to guys on the street now) and told me that I had to order drinks from him. I ignored him, got another drink from a waiter before I eventually left and found the place I was looking for.

But it was last November that I got ripped off at the California Club. That place is the worst. The waiters, who wear varsity jackets were pestering me the who time I was there. I couldn't enjoy my beer and watch the show without my waiter them asking me every other minute if I needed another beer or if I wanted a girl, yet. I got so tired of it, I closed my tab for one beer gave my waiter a 50 k note (it's all I had, but I had fully expected to be spending more money there) for the one beer I had. They accepted cards there but I definitely would not give plastic to anyone down there. So the waiter disappeared and didn't return with the change. I got tired of waiting on my change, the guy wasn't in sight and it became obvious that he wasn't bringing the change back. When I walked out, I looked up at that balcony above the dance floor and saw the waiter and his pals laughing at me. Assholes. Don't go there! I had forgotten that I went into that place back in 2017 and had a disappointing experience there, back then. Again, I would suggest everyone avoid the place. It's bad news.

BTW, I went back to the Pussy House earlier the same evening. They have professional waiters but the place looked rather tired since I last visited in 2017. It was a nice club, back then. But, there weren't any attractive girls there on my last visit, which is a sad thing in a country where the women can be so attractive.[/QUOTE]Please NEVER leave your drink unattended, big mistake. Be safe.

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2809519]

My tip is to break your 50's and 100's at a local OXXO. Across the road from the Ibis Museo there's one so each day I would get a water and candy and pay with a 50 or 100 and they happily give change back. Always try and pay with 10's for drinks and at the most 20 mil. If you go higher then that the mesero will typically disappear and have to find change. Once at troya I saw my guy walk up to the bar to get change, they told him no, he then walked out and about 10 minutes later came back with 35 mil. Should have been change of 40 mil but I didn't complain as who knows where he ended up going to get my change. Anyways, point is don't pay for 1 x10 mil beer with a 50 or larger. You'll end up having to remember who your mesero is otherwise.[/QUOTE]You can also make change in Santa fe at all the little corner stores, they're reluctant in the morning to break big bills but by the end of the day they appreciate having large notes and dumping some 2 mils. The guys running the corners love the big bills too but you'll get the nastiest 2 mil notes you've ever seen.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2809293]Yes-- it is a good idea to ask prices-- This kind of rip-off happens in Texas and California clubs more often-- And it only happens to gringos.

Some have more problems than others-- I believe I read here that it happened in Troya-.

If you had refused you could have paid less without much problem-.

Regular Beers in Reality are 8 mil -- typically the waiters say 10 mil-.[/QUOTE]I didn't like Texas either if it's the one at the corner with the intersection, the only club I visited in SF and MDE where the waiter literally took a lady and pushed her to seat next to me in a way I felt embarrassed for her. Corona was also more expensive 35 mill I think. I went twice around 3 pm and I didn't like any (about 9 girls on Thursday the first time and 4 girls the second). It piss me off when they don't let you drink yr beer in peace.

[QUOTE=BarrioSpinners;2809912]I didn't like Texas either if it's the one at the corner with the intersection, the only club I visited in SF and MDE where the waiter literally took a lady and pushed her to seat next to me in a way I felt embarrassed for her. Corona was also more expensive 35 mill I think. I went twice around 3 pm and I didn't like any (about 9 girls on Thursday the first time and 4 girls the second). It piss me off when they don't let you drink yr beer in peace.[/QUOTE]I always shut that bring over girls crap down. -- I just say Puedo hacerlo-- estoy bien-- You have to say what you want and don't let them pull crap like that-- The ones in Texas were worse before.

But I like Texas and California-- I have had great Sex adventures there many times-- Often there will be some super cute slutty girls-.

When it is raining during the day there can be a bunch of hot streetie Sweeties inside-.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2808297]I'm planning on doing this next week for the first time myself. Was this a yellow taxi you too or an uber?[/QUOTE]You won't get there a taxi there for 50 k these days. Nicest trip is on the train but iirc that only runs at the weekend. Or just take a bus: every other one goes to zipa: just hang around on Av Boyaca and they'll come to you. OK dead cow place there too.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2808297]I'm planning on doing this next week for the first time myself. Was this a yellow taxi you too or an uber?[/QUOTE]Yeah this was 2005 before Uber even existed. Going to El Dorado lake Tuesday myself. Looked it up and will be taking the bus there.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2809293]Yes-- it is a good idea to ask prices-- This kind of rip-off happens in Texas and California clubs more often-- And it only happens to gringos.

Some have more problems than others-- I believe I read here that it happened in Troya-.

If you had refused you could have paid less without much problem-.

Regular Beers in Reality are 8 mil -- typically the waiters say 10 mil-.[/QUOTE]Best mesero for me was the number 10 at Venus. I was after a cutie but she was nowhere around that night and I was leaving in a couple of days so you guys can imagine my anxiety. I also asked her friends but nothing, no one knew where she was. I went straight up to the bosses then and muchacho pulled out whatsapp. She showed up 15 minutes later hand on hand with him. They both did a very good job and I couldn't be more happy. I have to say that Santa Fe treated me very well during my month stay.

One day I will elaborate better the differences between El Centro where I also spent 2 months (I'm an hard core junior street rat), but saying they complete each others is the closest I can get. I loved both.

Some people in previous post complained about waiters being too pushy and I also witness a nearly stand off with a buch Russian idiots on the streets of SF, however I had a completely different experience. I like to talk to them for extra Intel & logistic while I finish my drink to jump in the next club and they were nice guys doing a honest job, always happy to give a little propina.

Anyone know someone or the best place to get BB Greek in Bogota? Will be there May 20th to 22.

Dulce 130 K + 50 K oral naturale.

Hit the pages and came across Dulce. Wow. That face is amazing. I saw one review and it was actually her. While yes it is her, she has however either had a baby or put on about 28 lbs. Her boobs droop a bit.

I arrive to a grey door and step inside a deli to use my phone (this is a part of Chapinero where I had my phone robbed so I am extra cautious) I text and confirm it's there. A man peaks his head out and he lets the door open.

He says "esta aqui para dulce" I say "si" he instructs me to wait.

Inside it is one of the worst looking apartments I ever been in. It is half way between consstruction and being condemed. There is a motorcycel parked in the vestibule.

Dulce comes out 30 seconds later. Her face and make up is very very cute. So much that I ignore the weight she gained. She is still sweet though.

I pay her and tell her oral naturale. We get naked and do some light kissing but hardly any tongue. She wipes me down and then pops halls into her mouth and starts to suck. I think she just doesn't like the taste of cock maybe. Anyway Her BJ is a bit too much suction and not enough suave. I try to get her to be more smooth but she just is a bit rough.

We go to fuck and I'm just not really feeling it. I can tell she is not totally there. She looks away and is a bit hesitant to really get into it.

I finally get her to jerk me off onto her tits and then she cleans me up and I leave.

She is ok but I tell you, give her a year of this diet she is on and she is going to be a blimp that won't be able to make 50 Mil a day.

Take care ya'lll. It is her but we prob had the best shot like 8 months ago.

Hi -- finishing up a 6-week South American extravaganza in Bogota, arriving tomorrow. I'm still hoping to find someone who wants to meet up, we both grab a girl and take them to the same room. Can stay with our own or switch them out, but would love to watch a hot girl getting fucked while balls deep inside another.

Even if that's not your thing, let's hang at Venus and maybe get some kneepads! (is that really true -- you can fuck a girl on the stage? That's outstanding!

"We were in Venus and this guy banged this pretty hot stripper right on stage.

First she gave him a BJ while sitting in a chair and then he banged her doggie style on the stage. They even gave him kneepads!

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2811251]Hi -- finishing up a 6-week South American extravaganza in Bogota, arriving tomorrow. I'm still hoping to find someone who wants to meet up, we both grab a girl and take them to the same room. Can stay with our own or switch them out, but would love to watch a hot girl getting fucked while balls deep inside another.

Even if that's not your thing, let's hang at Venus and maybe get some kneepads! (is that really true -- you can fuck a girl on the stage? That's outstanding!

"We were in Venus and this guy banged this pretty hot stripper right on stage.

First she gave him a BJ while sitting in a chair and then he banged her doggie style on the stage. They even gave him kneepads![/QUOTE]I have seen a few shows at Venus. They always are on busy nights-- I remember one they had a hung black guy banging -- They usually will charge the guy 10 mil-- maybe more now.

More often they do Lesbo shows. Speaking of kneepads lotsa girls wear them on stage and they really get going sliding on the floor-- It's Fantastic.

[QUOTE=TigerSong;2810544]Anyone know someone or the best place to get BB Greek in Bogota? Will be there May 20th to 22.[/QUOTE]Probably some trannies, but watch out for the HIV.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2811262]I have seen a few shows at Venus. They always are on busy nights-- I remember one they had a hung black guy banging -- They usually will charge the guy 10 mil-- maybe more now.

More often they do Lesbo shows. Speaking of kneepads lotsa girls wear them on stage and they really get going sliding on the floor-- It's Fantastic.[/QUOTE]So for $2. 38 you can fuck a girl on a stage at a strip club? That's outstanding!

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2811302]So for $2. 38 you can fuck a girl on a stage at a strip club? That's outstanding![/QUOTE]I am not sure how they decide to do that-- But I guess you could make it happen by talking to someone-- It might be more now-- Probably only certain girls are willing.

Other things they do are stripper lapdance specials with 2-3 strippers for $20-30 mil+ They do these kind of specials at Troya and Atonis-.

I don't like them because sometimes it's rushed and I like to pick the girl for my lapdances.

Get To Santa Fe and Bang Away-- LMAO!

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2811338]

Get To Santa Fe and Bang Away-- LMAO![/QUOTE]Hahahahahaha.

On my way tonight! Maybe gringo dick will make an appearance 😂.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2811338]I am not sure how they decide to do that-- But I guess you could make it happen by talking to someone-- It might be more now-- Probably only certain girls are willing.

Other things they do are stripper lapdance specials with 2-3 strippers for $20-30 mil+ They do these kind of specials at Troya and Atonis-.

I don't like them because sometimes it's rushed and I like to pick the girl for my lapdances.

Get To Santa Fe and Bang Away-- LMAO![/QUOTE]That sounds so fun, excited to make my 1st trip in June.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2811338]I am not sure how they decide to do that-- But I guess you could make it happen by talking to someone-- It might be more now-- Probably only certain girls are willing.[/QUOTE]All the places I have been that do that they just usually pull a random guy on stage and a lot of times it takes them to coax the guy. It is not like you can just say tonight I am going to go to Club X and fuck a chick on stage.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2811563]All the places I have been that do that they just usually pull a random guy on stage and a lot of times it takes them to coax the guy. It is not like you can just say tonight I am going to go to Club X and fuck a chick on stage.[/QUOTE]1985 in a club in Kings Cross in Sydney-.

I'm a veteran of this scene. Fucking my way across my 5th continent. So I know what's up and how to act. And how to negotiate and what the price of pussy is in a location.

Land at Venus Club around 9 and it's pretty dead. One gorda dancing and the rest were kinda enh. The porn on the TV was more entertaining.

So I left around 9:45 and walked around to see the street scene. Not many lookers and the couple decents were asking 100 mil. I laughed and said I'd pay 50 m and they said no. OK have fun standing around.

So then I went into a couple clubs on Carrera 16 and dead as a doornail. So went back around, talked to some more puntas and checked out Fiebre. Now this is where the bullshit started. Got my beer and sat at one of the last tables. About 3 minutes later, some security fuck tapped me on the shoulder and asked me to move to a table behind a group of guys so I could stare at their faces instead of the stage. I wasn't moving -- I'm a paying customer and just got here. Just because they are 3 guys and I'm only one doesn't mean I move to the back of the room. So I sat my ground and they sat at the table over to the side. That's some bullshit. Then the girls there are just plastic and not that great. Much less mileage on the dances I saw than at Venus -- most didn't even pull down their panties or let the guys finger or suck. That's some bullshit.

So I poked my head into Paisas. Dead as a doornail.

So around 10:15 I went back into Venus as I liked the playfulness of the girls and to see if it picked up. It did. So I get my beer and a black girl grabs me at the bar and deep kisses me, pulls her nipple out and shows me her panty-less pussy under her dress. Well Hello, dear! Trying to push the public stuff I ask for a dance and show her I wasn't wearing undies either. She freaked out a bit, said there are cameras (so?) and then continued with a pretty good dance. 20 mil. Fine.

Then the bullshit starts. She said 60 mil for medio hora downstairs. I made her say it twice. Media hora. 60 mil pesos. So we go upstairs and I give her 20 m for the bailar and 60 m for the fuck. Then she says 10 m more. I guess that was for the condom. Fine. So we start fucking and about 10 minutes in she pulls me out, rips the condom off and starts talking rapidly in non-understandable spanish asking for more money to continue. I ask simple questions and tell her she's wasting my time and to get back on the bed and she refuses. So that escalates in the room and now I'm not even horny -- I'm so fucking pissed at this punta. So I tell the bartender downstairs that she's a ripoff artist and she comes and tries to slow hand my back and smile. I about spit in her face but didn't and left. That's some bullshit. Didn't get her name -- about 5'8, black, dreads (not colored -- there were two girls who looked like this and the one with colored hair and braces was cool, this one didn't have braces and had black hair).

Coming to Bogota first time the weekend of June 7, if anyone is in town let me know if you're up to check anywhere out. May stay at Tequendema, but may just stay in Chapinero for an area with more walkable restaurants for a gringo with beginner Spanish (still researching neighborhoods though). Definitely getting a Woodman tour for SF clubs and a couple Eroticas Bogota escorts for some dates.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2812456]Coming to Bogota first time the weekend of June 7, if anyone is in town let me know if you're up to check anywhere out. May stay at Tequendema, but may just stay in Chapinero for an area with more walkable restaurants for a gringo with beginner Spanish (still researching neighborhoods though). Definitely getting a Woodman tour for SF clubs and a couple Eroticas Bogota escorts for some dates.[/QUOTE]Way more walkable in the downtown area-- plenty of restaurants, good areas-- tourist places.

Planning my second trip to Bogota in mid June. So I am brushing up on my rudimentary spanish as best as I can. Unlike the last trip which was more about escorts and less about street girls, on this trip I am going to be focused nearly exclusively on girls in Santa Fe.

1) how is hotel San Francisco compared to Tequendama Suites in terms of amenities? I loved my previous stay but it is a bit too far to walk solo at night.

2) are all girls who visit the clubs in Santa Fe hoes? Last tike I saw some girls who were not trying to solicit customers in any way, and dressed less provocatively. I wonder if local girls visit these clubs with their novios like some girls go with their bfs to strip clubs here in the US. If they are indeed with their novios I would rather not approach them asking if they would like to go upstairs with me. Got to err on the side of caution as this is a solo trip.

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2812881]1) how is hotel San Francisco compared to Tequendama Suites in terms of amenities?[/QUOTE]Don't know what amenities you mean, but Tequendama is way better than San Francisco. San Francisco is pretty much bare bones. Basic breakfast whereas Tequendama has the big buffet. At Tequendama I always stay in a room with sofa, kitchen, dining room, bathttub. SF is a bed and a desk.

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2812881]2) are all girls who visit the clubs in Santa Fe hoes? Last tike I saw some girls who were not trying to solicit customers in any way, and dressed less provocatively.[/QUOTE]Yes. If there is a chick there with her boyfriend then you would know she is with her boyfriend. She would not be alone. Chicks have on regular clothes because they bounce from place to place. I personally do not like hookers that dress provocatively, unless I know she is dressed that way working as one of the house dancers / hookers. I do not know of any local normal chicks that would be caught dead around that place.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope;2811661] Didn't get her name -- about 5'8, black, dreads (not colored -- there were two girls who looked like this and the one with colored hair and braces was cool, this one didn't have braces and had black hair).[/QUOTE]I can remember 3 regular black chicas 2 months ago circa. A chubby, a tall and chatty paisa with a nice attitude and the other one is a spinner who dance there. The second started asking the propina too soon and the last if I'm not wrong wanted 100 mill, they were both good. Anyway, the lowest I paid for a rato at Venus was 80 mill + 10 mill room.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2812888]Don't know what amenities you mean, but Tequendama is way better than San Francisco. San Francisco is pretty much bare bones. Basic breakfast whereas Tequendama has the big buffet. At Tequendama I always stay in a room with sofa, kitchen, dining room, bathttub. SF is a bed and a desk. [/QUOTE]Tequendama it is then. I stayed in their deluxe rooms as you described. Boinking the escorts while looking at the parade on Sundays was quite fun. I wonder if Tequendama would let pretty ones from Santa Fe in the hotels if they are dressed nice. They had no issue letting the agency escorts in, twice a day.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2812888] Yes. If there is a chick there with her boyfriend then you would know she is with her boyfriend. She would not be alone. Chicks have on regular clothes because they bounce from place to place. I personally do not like hookers that dress provocatively, unless I know she is dressed that way working as one of the house dancers / hookers. I do not know of any local normal chicks that would be caught dead around that place.[/QUOTE]I thought all the girls inside a club always stick to their particular clubs. I had asked a very cute Vennie pequena to go to a hotel outside. She said they only boink in the clubs and refused to go. So I took her upstairs. But I bet the experience would have been better in the hotels outside. My mate caught a club girl outside to boink her in a hotel. But she had to first go get her ID from the club.

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2813081]Tequendama it is then. I stayed in their deluxe rooms as you described. Boinking the escorts while looking at the parade on Sundays was quite fun. I wonder if Tequendama would let pretty ones from Santa Fe in the hotels if they are dressed nice. They had no issue letting the agency escorts in, twice a day.

I thought all the girls inside a club always stick to their particular clubs. I had asked a very cute Vennie pequena to go to a hotel outside. She said they only boink in the clubs and refused to go. So I took her upstairs. But I bet the experience would have been better in the hotels outside. My mate caught a club girl outside to boink her in a hotel. But she had to first go get her ID from the club.[/QUOTE]That's my plan. I'd prefer to sample her in the club first, if she's good service & good behavior then I'd bring her to hotel later in my 4 day trip as a day time option. My hope is that she'll be enticed to do better if it's an audition for a bigger pay day later on.

Had plenty of advice for Tequendama but going with a small boutique hotel on Calle 72 in Chapinero so not walkable to SF but I'm okay with the 15 min Uber. I'm planning on bringing 1 or 2 of the same eroticas escorts each day so I'll be telling the girls to dress conservative as well preemptively tip / establish rapport with the front desk, which is hopefully overkill.

Anyone going to Pussy House lately? I used to go there and calle 49 for some decent talent. How is it now?

[QUOTE=DaVinci40;2809527]Everyone else has said the same thing but just to be clear, The only difference between HK in Tijuana and the clubs in Santa Fe is that there's no hotel that you can stay the night at attached to the club like Hotel Cascadas.

Everything else is the same. You negotiate with the girls downstairs in the club and then you go upstairs to the rooms to do your thing. But as mentioned the room isn't like your hotel room where you can leave your stuff. It's more like when you go to HK and you didn't book a night at the Cascadas. But if you're coming from Tijuana you'll be surprised at the cost benefit here.

Tijuana Hong Kong -.

Girl -$100 usd +.

Overnight stay at Cascadas - $70+.

VIP card to get discount. Think it's $60/70.

Room cost if you don't stay overnight (going by memory) - $20.

Santa Fe club:

Girls - $30 usd +.

Room to do your thing. Included.

Beer - $2.50 usd.

A couple of cuties that were taking my leche in their mouth the last time I was there for less than the cost of 1 girl in Tijuana. Viva Bogota!![/QUOTE]They look average. With small body parts. I like ladies with more shape.

First of all, I love this agency. Their girls are great and the agency is communicative. I always meet the girls in Motel Real Jardim. The rooms are clean and they are professional and they all pretty much know me by now.

Hellen - 18 (I think it might be true).

Super sweet young girl with tiny tits who was eager to please. She is inexperienced but is super friendly. She does not do BBJ and she can't ride like the others but I enjoyed my time with her.

Eli - 25 or so.

Girl with a huge afro and a body to die for. She was so eager to please and super skilled. Enjoyed my time with her.

Evelyn - 22 or so.

She met me right after her periods. She is not shaved at all and she smelled of fish. I complained to the agency. They took it quite seriously and assured me it won't happen again. So, I am a happy customer. I had to stop the act midway and send the girl home.

Located conveniently in the Chapinero area. Love the place but it is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you will find.

I have gone on days when I wanted to fuck 3-4 girls from the lineup. Just beautiful sexy goddesses. And I have gone on days where a 30 year old woman with a potbelly is the most fuckable woman in the room. Fortunately, it is more common to get the hotter girls, atleast for me.

Communication is pretty bad. They don't tell you who is working and who is not. So, you have to go figure it out.

The area outside can get real sketchy at night, to the point that the receptionist advised me to not leave till my Uber is outside and waiting. And I did see some rough characters right outside. So, be careful.

I usually pay 150 k to the house for the hour and another 150 k to the girl. (I know it is a lot but I am a gringo and I make the girls do what I want, I am into kinks.).

[QUOTE=MongerFriend;2813487]First of all, I love this agency. Their girls are great and the agency is communicative. I always meet the girls in Motel Real Jardim. The rooms are clean and they are professional and they all pretty much know me by now.

Hellen - 18 (I think it might be true).

Super sweet young girl with tiny tits who was eager to please. She is inexperienced but is super friendly. She does not do BBJ and she can't ride like the others but I enjoyed my time with her.

Eli - 25 or so.

Girl with a huge afro and a body to die for. She was so eager to please and super skilled. Enjoyed my time with her.

Evelyn - 22 or so.

She met me right after her periods. She is not shaved at all and she smelled of fish. I complained to the agency. They took it quite seriously and assured me it won't happen again. So, I am a happy customer. I had to stop the act midway and send the girl home.[/QUOTE]Any advice for using this agency? Will they accommodate requests like more pictures of a girl, or making sure she dresses conservative if bringing her to my Chapinero hotel? Will they do anything if reserved long enough like go out for drinks, tour guide?

[QUOTE=MongerFriend;2813489]Located conveniently in the Chapinero area. Love the place but it is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you will find.

I have gone on days when I wanted to fuck 3-4 girls from the lineup. Just beautiful sexy goddesses. And I have gone on days where a 30 year old woman with a potbelly is the most fuckable woman in the room. Fortunately, it is more common to get the hotter girls, atleast for me.

Communication is pretty bad. They don't tell you who is working and who is not. So, you have to go figure it out.

The area outside can get real sketchy at night, to the point that the receptionist advised me to not leave till my Uber is outside and waiting. And I did see some rough characters right outside. So, be careful.

I usually pay 150 k to the house for the hour and another 150 k to the girl. (I know it is a lot but I am a gringo and I make the girls do what I want, I am into kinks.).[/QUOTE]You can get a pretty one from an agency to come to your hotel for less than that.

Valery 160 HR + 90 mil oral natural.

I'm staying in the north and wanted something closer to me rather then tracking all the way down to Chapinero or Santa Fe.

I message her early she says she will be there in like a half hour.

Take a take to a regular residential building. The security guy talks to me thru a voice phone that has the sound quality of something alexander graham bell made.

I get buzzed in, go take a small elevator a couple floors up. I ring the bell and slowly a cute redhead answers. It is the girl in the photo.

Her face isn't anything special to write home about but she isn't ugly either, its just sort of mid. Her body is nice though. She has fake tits BUT they are very squishy like she had them for several years. You can see small cuts in the nipples where they went in. Her skin is very white.

I pay her for the hour and we get right down to business. She dances on my standing for about 30 seconds then puts me on the bed. I take off my clothes as she reveals her nice Full see almost the cups. I suck on her nipples but when I go in for a kiss she does a cheek turn. This chick does ZERO kissing at all. Not even a neck or anything. Ok.

She wipes me with an alcohol wipe for like 45 seconds then puts me in her mouth but I'm not really even that hard. However, her mouth is very soft and she has regular suction. I start to get harder while playing with her pussy and tits and while I want more she just grabs the rubber, puts it on and mounts me. ,Her pussy is very tight and she has a homer mouth style innie. 5 min in she says "in quatro" she bends over and has a great ass however I just feel her not there, not in the moment and the mechanics of it all coming together.

I switch to sideways so I can see her tits bouncing and then eventually on top. I ask her to finish me on her tits and she sucks me. I get close to cumming but she damn near stops as I'm close to cumming and ALMOST gives me a ruined orgasm. I had to grab my Johnson from her halfway and keep going so I could get the full experience. She cleans herself off and then asks if I want a massage. I say yes. She puts on super cold cream and massages me for literally 2 minutes and then says "ok terminar".

I lay there just going thru my phone with messages and thinking how I should have just done a half hour. She goes away for 5 min and talks with her friend who is in the other room. She comes back in and is basically asking me what I am still doing there, the price was only for 1 relation. I said "yo pago para 1 hora" she is obviously upset that I haven't already left as its only been like 35 minutes or so. I just feel frustrated so 5 min later I put my clothes on and bounce.

Face 5.

Body 7. 5.

Performance 3.

Valery 3227947728.

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Hi, I have graduated to senior user and can accept DMs now.

I remember some of you give tours, please message me I want one.

Also if you're not a "pro guide" and looking for a wingman, that works too.

On my last trip to Bogota I had added quite a few agency girls I had boinked to my social media. And now I am trying to find some girls who might accept some financial help from me to help me relax. In my quest, I noticed some more girls that I know to be semi pros in their friend lists. Added them immediately and they accepted. Added some more ypung fit girls who my puta radar predicted to be semi pros or pros. I will try to see if I can get them at prices somewhere between Santa Fe and agencies. Only time will tell if I succeed. But I will keep you folks posted.

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2813923]On my last trip to Bogota I had added quite a few agency girls I had boinked to my social media. And now I am trying to find some girls who might accept some financial help from me to help me relax. In my quest, I noticed some more girls that I know to be semi pros in their friend lists. Added them immediately and they accepted. Added some more ypung fit girls who my puta radar predicted to be semi pros or pros. I will try to see if I can get them at prices somewhere between Santa Fe and agencies. Only time will tell if I succeed. But I will keep you folks posted.[/QUOTE]Did you just ask for their Instagram after your 1st session with them? I thought they would be conservative with having their face be somewhere, when I asked more Eroticas pics the management declined saying I'd have to settle for their site pics which I understand. Would be nice to have social afterwards to get some enticing photos while away & to know if they're leaving the business. The Bogota pool is infinite but I'd like to have a few regulars for my seasonal trips.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2813971]Did you just ask for their Instagram after your 1st session with them? I thought they would be conservative with having their face be somewhere, when I asked more Eroticas pics the management declined saying I'd have to settle for their site pics which I understand. Would be nice to have social afterwards to get some enticing photos while away & to know if they're leaving the business. The Bogota pool is infinite but I'd like to have a few regulars for my seasonal trips.[/QUOTE]Yes, I did ask after my first and only session. I never repeat a girl unless the pool is dry. Not all girls shared their info. The agency has no problem sending me photos of girls woth faces over whatsapp after I had got a girl from them. And they also sent me girls not on their websites once I was got like 2-3 girls from them. I was getting two agency girls nearly every day, one for afternoon and one for night, every day. I went through nearly the entire roster of girls without enhancements from La Celestina.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2803896]Thanks for the advice and I have experienced no shows and fake profiles in other countries but this girl, for me, looks hot enough to take the risk. She does video calls so I will probably do that before asking her to come over.

Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Her pictures on the site are out of this world. She was asking for 120 K to come over to my hotel and looking at her pics, I was almost ready to dish that money out but since she offers video calls so I paid her $10 for a video call and I am glad that I did that. Those pictures on the site must be at least 15 years old. She is nothing like her old pictures now.

Started the day with doing toursty stuff. Had an appointment set with Woodman in the afternoon. He arrived at my hotel and we walked to the action. It was around 5 pm and there were at least 100 girls on the street. Woodman told me that this is early so it's a bit dry. A 100 girls in a few blocks is dry, I wondered.

Woodman is a sea of knowledge about the area so when he told me that I can do a session with a girl, he can wait in a bar, I decided not to do that and spend the time gleaning knowledge form Woodman.

Anyways, we parted and I started going around the blocks and started talking to girls. Two things I discovered pretty fast. For price negotiation, my basic Spanish was good enough but when talking about service expectations, not even close to good enough. The second thing that I discovered that my impression that majority of the girls would perform BBBJ for additional money was completely wrong. 90% of the girls declined to do that. The reason I had that impression was that before coming to Bogota, I had chatted with online escorts of this city and every one of them had quoted an additional charge for that without exception but in Santa Fe today I could find only two girls that I talked to who agreed to do that.

Pricewise, 50 K and 60 K was pretty much the standard for a session. No one quoted me higher than that.

On to the day two tomorrow. I am planning to visit a couple of casas and then back to Santa Fe.

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2814010]Yes, I did ask after my first and only session. I never repeat a girl unless the pool is dry. Not all girls shared their info. The agency has no problem sending me photos of girls woth faces over whatsapp after I had got a girl from them. And they also sent me girls not on their websites once I was got like 2-3 girls from them. I was getting two agency girls nearly every day, one for afternoon and one for night, every day. I went through nearly the entire roster of girls without enhancements from La Celestina.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tip of La Celestina. Their website is poorly formatted but they have a pretty deep pool, and a little cheaper than Eroticas, so I'll try 1 from them too.

I showed 2 ISG guys around in afternoon and evening-- Lotsa Really hot Streetie Sweeties running around SF last night-- the typical reaction of surprise to the quality available on the street.

We were in Troya about 9 and it was at full swing-- There were some stunners and the guy I was with (who only wanted numbers) he ended up upstairs with one of them a regular whose name escapes me but she is an 8-9 for 150 mil. Also I ran into 3 ISG guys partying in Troya-- so ISG Representing in Santa Fe Last Night.

I took the tour yesterday and highly recommend it.

Woodman will show you areas in the stroll you wouldn't likely find by yourself, especially if you are new. He knows the area very well and practically lives there LOL.

Here it is --See Photo.

Just joined Seeking to test the waters. Holy shit, some of the girls there are mercenaries and extremely demanding. I wonder if hoardes western tourists have been sending them gifts without ever meeting them or just overpaid for one session and thus have ruined them for the rest if us. I have no problem with US $200 for a day to have multiple sessions with a top shelf 18 year old cutie, but have no intention of overpaying. And what are some tips to navigate tye Seeking universe successfully?

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2814245]Just joined Seeking to test the waters. Holy shit, some of the girls there are mercenaries and extremely demanding. I wonder if hoardes western tourists have been sending them gifts without ever meeting them or just overpaid for one session and thus have ruined them for the rest if us. I have no problem with US $200 for a day to have multiple sessions with a top shelf 18 year old cutie, but have no intention of overpaying. And what are some tips to navigate tye Seeking universe successfully?[/QUOTE]I'm usually paying 200,000 cop to 300,000 for a good English speaking GND 21 to 24 type. Generally no time limit. I've got info in my fourm post history with what works for me. Most I've paid for a real semi pro was 300,000. I've done some monthly situations too and it's far far less per meet that way. I've been quoted up to 8 million cop for a monthly, but I just say no thanks and move on.

A buddy of mine has a situation for 24 hours for unlimited sex for I think 400,000 to 500,000 with a girl he met at a massage place.

Enjoy the wild ride that seeking can be.

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2814245]Just joined Seeking to test the waters. Holy shit, some of the girls there are mercenaries and extremely demanding. I wonder if hoardes western tourists have been sending them gifts without ever meeting them or just overpaid for one session and thus have ruined them for the rest if us. I have no problem with US $200 for a day to have multiple sessions with a top shelf 18 year old cutie, but have no intention of overpaying. And what are some tips to navigate tye Seeking universe successfully?[/QUOTE]400 to 500 mil cop is the rate I have been paying recently. Plus Ubers, sometimes. This rate is not for a TLN. The girls were in the 7 to 7. 5 range, with 1 or 2 being closer to 8. If you are looking for hot girls, 8 and above, be ready to pay more, in the 600-900 mil cop range. Higher end girls barely negotiate, because they know they are scarce. So, $150-$200 USD for a top shelf, english speaking girl, seems about right.

Is it possible to pay 200-300 mil cop? Sure, but I have to disappoint you, girls in this price range are not top shelf. Average or slightly above average, girls next door type. They do not meet my minimum standard of 7+, therefore i have no interest in meeting them even though they are cheaper. Also, higher end girls usually live in upscale neighborhoods, close to where you will be staying. I would rather pay more for a convenience of seeing a girl who lives in my neighborhood on a short notice rather than scheduling a date with a cheaper girl who lives in Kennedy or Bosa, because it might take her 1-2 hrs to get to me.

Unfortunately, the pussy market, Seeking specifically, is already ruined since the pandemic was over. Inflation, influx of gringos, OnlyFans and shit. Everything has contributed.

Good luck!

Just got robbed yesterday around the SF area. Actual location is around the corner of Ave Caracas and Ave El Dorado and during broad daylight around 2 pm. Was coming back from supply shopping and a harmless looking girl was loitering around the buildings at the corner. Thought I'd just go around her but instead she steps in front of me, gets close and pulls out a knife and demands my phone. Unfortunately there was no one around for 50+ yards / meters and well you can't think too much at that time so I just gave it to her. Maybe I could have dropped my stuff and make a run for it towards people, but it's not easy to think when there's a knife a few inches from your face. Well she runs off and I followed her a bit shouting ladron but no one is around and she threatens to stab me so forget it. Anyways I don't bring a nice phone outside, it's like a $70 Motorola and this not being the first time I was robbed in Colombia I don't bring out anything I couldn't afford to lose. My Galaxy S22+ stays indoors and I actually bring a 2nd cheapo phone in case the Motorola gets stolen which it did. The problem with this is that I'm not sure what I could have done differently. I'm out in the middle of the day and I saw the girl so it's not like I was unaware. It's also really odd to stop walking forward if you see a lone person in front with no one around you, it probably makes you look even more like a potential victim. Stay safe all.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2814265]400 to 500 mil cop is the rate I have been paying recently. Plus Ubers, sometimes. This rate is not for a TLN. The girls were in the 7 to 7. 5 range, with 1 or 2 being closer to 8. If you are looking for hot girls, 8 and above, be ready to pay more, in the 600-900 mil cop range. Higher end girls barely negotiate, because they know they are scarce. So, $150-$200 USD for a top shelf, english speaking girl, seems about right.

Is it possible to pay 200-300 mil cop? Sure, but I have to disappoint you, girls in this price range are not top shelf. Average or slightly above average, girls next door type. They do not meet my minimum standard of 7+, therefore i have no interest in meeting them even though they are cheaper. Also, higher end girls usually live in upscale neighborhoods, close to where you will be staying. I would rather pay more for a convenience of seeing a girl who lives in my neighborhood on a short notice rather than scheduling a date with a cheaper girl who lives in Kennedy or Bosa, because it might take her 1-2 hrs to get to me.

Unfortunately, the pussy market, Seeking specifically, is already ruined since the pandemic was over. Inflation, influx of gringos, OnlyFans and shit. Everything has contributed.

Good luck![/QUOTE]I will be staying in Hotel Tequendema, just to be within walking distance to Santa Fe. Doubt there would be too many top tier girls local to the area. I want to get a young below 20 girl next door type cutie who isn't too experienced in pay for play. We will see how it goes.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2814251]I'm usually paying 200,000 cop to 300,000 for a good English speaking GND 21 to 24 type. Generally no time limit. I've got info in my fourm post history with what works for me. Most I've paid for a real semi pro was 300,000. I've done some monthly situations too and it's far far less per meet that way. I've been quoted up to 8 million cop for a monthly, but I just say no thanks and move on.

A buddy of mine has a situation for 24 hours for unlimited sex for I think 400,000 to 500,000 with a girl he met at a massage place.

Enjoy the wild ride that seeking can be.[/QUOTE]How experienced are these girls in the pay for play game? I feel like the more experience the girls get, the more mechanical they become. I was hoping to use Seeking to get girls that are very very new to the game. But my expectations night be off.

I've been lurking on photoprepagados for a whilst waiting for the right girl to pop up, you can find quite a lot of hotties for only 120 k which seems a bit too good to be true, I message them and they always tell me this address: cl66#16. Chapinero.

Is this a famous house or something? Is it a bait full of ugly chicks?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2814265]400 to 500 mil cop is the rate I have been paying recently. Plus Ubers, sometimes. This rate is not for a TLN. The girls were in the 7 to 7. 5 range, with 1 or 2 being closer to 8. If you are looking for hot girls, 8 and above, be ready to pay more, in the 600-900 mil cop range. Higher end girls barely negotiate, because they know they are scarce. So, $150-$200 USD for a top shelf, english speaking girl, seems about right.

Is it possible to pay 200-300 mil cop? Sure, but I have to disappoint you, girls in this price range are not top shelf. Average or slightly above average, girls next door type. They do not meet my minimum standard of 7+, therefore i have no interest in meeting them even though they are cheaper. Also, higher end girls usually live in upscale neighborhoods, close to where you will be staying. I would rather pay more for a convenience of seeing a girl who lives in my neighborhood on a short notice rather than scheduling a date with a cheaper girl who lives in Kennedy or Bosa, because it might take her 1-2 hrs to get to me.

Unfortunately, the pussy market, Seeking specifically, is already ruined since the pandemic was over. Inflation, influx of gringos, OnlyFans and shit. Everything has contributed.

Good luck![/QUOTE]What are the upscale neighborhoods that might be good to stay at, rather than staying in Santa Fe area?

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2814348]What are the upscale neighborhoods that might be good to stay at, rather than staying in Santa Fe area?[/QUOTE]While I got plenty of advice saying Santa Fe is serviceable like Hotel Tequendema, further north like Chapinero then Usaquen. I got a hotel in the middle part of Chapinero around Calle 70. Seemed further enough into the upscale area but not as upscale / expensive as Usaquen, while still being a 15 min Uber to SF.

[QUOTE=DiverOyster;2814348]What are the upscale neighborhoods that might be good to stay at, rather than staying in Santa Fe area?[/QUOTE]Your best bet would be Chapinero, around Zona G. Centrally located, tons of nice restaurants and cafes, safe, and many high end girls live there, so logistically it is much easier. And zona T is just a short drive, in case you like to party. Or Parque 93 area, along with Virrey park, super walkable and close to nightlife and restaurants.

Usaquen is also a nice neighborhood, very quiet and residential, but is up north and kinda remote, but some Seeking girls also live there.

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2814331]I will be staying in Hotel Tequendema, just to be within walking distance to Santa Fe. Doubt there would be too many top tier girls local to the area. I want to get a young below 20 girl next door type cutie who isn't too experienced in pay for play. We will see how it goes.

How experienced are these girls in the pay for play game? I feel like the more experience the girls get, the more mechanical they become. I was hoping to use Seeking to get girls that are very very new to the game. But my expectations night be off.[/QUOTE]So, you want inexperienced, young, and good looking girls, but want to monger in Santa Fe? Doesn't make any sense. And what does this have to do with Seeking?

Santa Fe girls are street urchins. They will give you all covered, mechanical service. One and done. But cheap though. If you want high end girls (good looking, intelligent, english speaking, etc but not necessarily super experienced), and you got the coin, I would skip SF entirely and stay in a different neighborhood.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2814281]Just got robbed yesterday around the SF area. Actual location is around the corner of Ave Caracas and Ave El Dorado and during broad daylight around 2 pm. Was coming back from supply shopping and a harmless looking girl was loitering around the buildings at the corner. Thought I'd just go around her but instead she steps in front of me, gets close and pulls out a knife and demands my phone. Unfortunately there was no one around for 50+ yards / meters and well you can't think too much at that time so I just gave it to her. Maybe I could have dropped my stuff and make a run for it towards people, but it's not easy to think when there's a knife a few inches from your face. Well she runs off and I followed her a bit shouting ladron but no one is around and she threatens to stab me so forget it. Anyways I don't bring a nice phone outside, it's like a $70 Motorola and this not being the first time I was robbed in Colombia I don't bring out anything I couldn't afford to lose. My Galaxy S22+ stays indoors and I actually bring a 2nd cheapo phone in case the Motorola gets stolen which it did. The problem with this is that I'm not sure what I could have done differently. I'm out in the middle of the day and I saw the girl so it's not like I was unaware. It's also really odd to stop walking forward if you see a lone person in front with no one around you, it probably makes you look even more like a potential victim. Stay safe all.[/QUOTE]Danm sorry to hear that. It's kind of weird to hear it, because you could be over 2 blocks by carrera 10 (near Hotel Tequendama) and it's totally fine. I feel like normally I always keep distance from guys who're walking solo, but the incident definitely adds reason to also keep some distance from girls.

I'm really not sure what advice to give, except potentially maintaining further distance? For the part about it's really odd to stop walking forward, I don't think so at all. If I'm alone in a sketch area and I see anyone at all walking towards me, I prefer crossing the street or moving sideways. No one gets within 6 feet. I've only had one experience where some guys were following me for a couple of blocks, but nothing more.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2814390]So, you want inexperienced, young, and good looking girls, but want to monger in Santa Fe? Doesn't make any sense. And what does this have to do with Seeking?

Santa Fe girls are street urchins. They will give you all covered, mechanical service. One and done. But cheap though. If you want high end girls (good looking, intelligent, english speaking, etc but not necessarily super experienced), and you got the coin, I would skip SF entirely and stay in a different neighborhood.[/QUOTE]No sense at all. He is sounding like a woman with this wish list. A girl under 20 is going to be way under 20 in Santa Fe. They are going to be Venezuelan immigrants and they are probably going to have more experience than him. And he could end up in jail behind it. If she is good looking, smart, and spoke English, she is not going to be under 20 and she probably would not be a hooker in the first place. She would be off at a real job.

Sorry to read this.

I've been saying for ages that this area is super dodgy only to be shouted down by the regular denizens of this forum.

It's clearly got worse over the last few years. Take care out there. Carry a decoy phone.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2814281]Just got robbed yesterday around the SF area. Actual location is around the corner of Ave Caracas and Ave El Dorado and during broad daylight around 2 pm. Was coming back from supply shopping and a harmless looking girl was loitering around the buildings at the corner. Thought I'd just go around her but instead she steps in front of me, gets close and pulls out a knife and demands my phone. Unfortunately there was no one around for 50+ yards / meters and well you can't think too much at that time so I just gave it to her. Maybe I could have dropped my stuff and make a run for it towards people, but it's not easy to think when there's a knife a few inches from your face. Well she runs off and I followed her a bit shouting ladron but no one is around and she threatens to stab me so forget it. Anyways I don't bring a nice phone outside, it's like a $70 Motorola and this not being the first time I was robbed in Colombia I don't bring out anything I couldn't afford to lose. My Galaxy S22+ stays indoors and I actually bring a 2nd cheapo phone in case the Motorola gets stolen which it did. The problem with this is that I'm not sure what I could have done differently. I'm out in the middle of the day and I saw the girl so it's not like I was unaware. It's also really odd to stop walking forward if you see a lone person in front with no one around you, it probably makes you look even more like a potential victim. Stay safe all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2814245]Just joined Seeking to test the waters. Holy shit, some of the girls there are mercenaries and extremely demanding. I wonder if hoardes western tourists have been sending them gifts without ever meeting them or just overpaid for one session and thus have ruined them for the rest if us. I have no problem with US $200 for a day to have multiple sessions with a top shelf 18 year old cutie, but have no intention of overpaying. And what are some tips to navigate tye Seeking universe successfully?[/QUOTE]I joined seeking a month or so ago but I am not seeing many listings in Bogota. I wonder if I need to get Premium subscription to see more listings? Or maybe I am on a wrong site? Any clarifications would be much appreciated.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2814281]Was coming back from supply shopping and a harmless looking girl was loitering around the buildings at the corner. Thought I'd just go around her but instead she steps in front of me, gets close and pulls out a knife and demands my phone.[/QUOTE]Doing a little Monday morning quarterbacking, I would have started talking in English acting like I did not understand Spanish.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2814390]So, you want inexperienced, young, and good looking girls, but want to monger in Santa Fe? Doesn't make any sense. And what does this have to do with Seeking?

Santa Fe girls are street urchins. They will give you all covered, mechanical service. One and done. But cheap though. If you want high end girls (good looking, intelligent, english speaking, etc but not necessarily super experienced), and you got the coin, I would skip SF entirely and stay in a different neighborhood.[/QUOTE]I want to explore both options. Less experienced good looking girls for weekend dates, and santa fe girls for weekday evening (and possibly weekday afternoon) boom boom. Also lining up some dates from ColombianCupid. If I get an inexperienced girl from Seeking or CC that doesn't give me puta vibes I might take her for some overnight stays woth me if I explore some areas nearby Bogota. I am staying Tequendema as weekday boom booms in Santa Fe after hours of attending Zoom meetings is something that I like. Mechanical or not, I like to look at the spectacle that is Santa Fe, pick a cute "street urchin", get my rocks off fast on weekday evenings and go to bed. Maybe my plans with Seeking won't work the way I am envisioning, but nonetheless it is an experiment that I want to try.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2814418]I see anyone at all walking towards me, I prefer crossing the street or moving sideways.[/QUOTE]Same with me especially after sunset and I see one or more guys walked towards me. That corner though doesn't have sidewalks on the other side. And protecting yourself it's not the first thing you think of when you see a 5 foot chica, though I'm going to have to adjust my expectations.

[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;2814452]Carry a decoy phone.[/QUOTE]This sounds like it could work. Might think about it.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2813587]Any advice for using this agency? Will they accommodate requests like more pictures of a girl, or making sure she dresses conservative if bringing her to my Chapinero hotel? Will they do anything if reserved long enough like go out for drinks, tour guide?[/QUOTE]Any advice for using this agency?

They are pretty professional. So, no trouble.

Will they accommodate requests like more pictures of a girl.

Nope, don't even bother.

Making sure she dresses conservative if bringing her to my Chapinero hotel.

Yes, they will accommodate all this. In fact, most girls dress conservatively anyway. You can request them to bring a costume to change into.

Will they do anything if reserved long enough like go out for drinks, tour guide?

For drinks, probably. I think it is a waste of time though, I would save my money.

But I am not sure if they compare to Woodman for a tour.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2814388]Your best bet would be Chapinero, around Zona G. Centrally located, tons of nice restaurants and cafes, safe, and many high end girls live there, so logistically it is much easier. And zona T is just a short drive, in case you like to party. Or Parque 93 area, along with Virrey park, super walkable and close to nightlife and restaurants.

Usaquen is also a nice neighborhood, very quiet and residential, but is up north and kinda remote, but some Seeking girls also live there.[/QUOTE]This is great info. Thank you! For my upcoming trip in 3 weeks I am currently booked at Hyatt Place Convention Center. Any idea if this hotel is in a good area with restaurants within walking distance? Hotel is highly rated and most reviews say it is in a safe area. However it is not in Chapinero and after reading multiple posts here I am debating whether I should switch to another hotel in that part of town.

[QUOTE=GreenKomodo;2814343]I've been lurking on photoprepagados for a whilst waiting for the right girl to pop up, you can find quite a lot of hotties for only 120 k which seems a bit too good to be true, I message them and they always tell me this address: cl66#16. Chapinero.

Is this a famous house or something? Is it a bait full of ugly chicks?[/QUOTE]There are around 10 brothels Calle 66 with carreras 15 and 16 . Girls there are average to below average. You won't find super hot girls in those places. It was the case years ago, you always had a few hidden gems amongst the crowd of GND in those brothels but since 2 to 3 years, it's over, only remain the not so attractive girls. Reason is that prices are too low, you pay 70 to 80 k per hour, girls pay 20 k for the room so she is left with 50 k per h. Average girls don't have the choice so they do it but hot girls are making far far more with an only fan or web cam chat services. It has become a real challenge to find hot girls that are on the sex market in Bogota, good years are behind us, hotties make money showing their boobies on TikTok.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2814418]Danm sorry to hear that. It's kind of weird to hear it, because you could be over 2 blocks by carrera 10 (near Hotel Tequendama) and it's totally fine. I feel like normally I always keep distance from guys who're walking solo, but the incident definitely adds reason to also keep some distance from girls.

I'm really not sure what advice to give, except potentially maintaining further distance? For the part about it's really odd to stop walking forward, I don't think so at all. If I'm alone in a sketch area and I see anyone at all walking towards me, I prefer crossing the street or moving sideways. No one gets within 6 feet. I've only had one experience where some guys were following me for a couple of blocks, but nothing more.[/QUOTE]Tasss that's sucks, sorry that happened. Living in Miami, Atlanta that shit happens too. Anything she might have picked you as a target for? I know you said you had a cheapo phone. Do you look foreign, or not physically imposing? Dressed down? I only mean that bc I am foreign looking, rugby winger built (which doesn't mean crap in a fight) but at least being brown with a little mass while dressing cheap I had hoped to lower my own chances.

And leaving mid-day on a Tuesday. I've contacted Woodman and he gave me his contact info, but I think I was a bit premature since I won't be there until June. So I'll get back with him in another few weeks. I'd like to do his tour if we can do it on a Sunday or a Monday. I booked a hotel and I'm sure it's not girl friendly, but after reading a lot it seems like it doesn't matter if I order an escort to my room in the middle of the day, right? If I can't order in and / or I can't get with Woodman, I'll need some backup plans. Would I be correct in assuming that in order of quality it would probably go: casa, FS massage parlor, strip club? Can anybody recommend a good casa or spa? I'll be in Chapinero, but I don't mind traveling.

Thanks in advance and I'll be sure to share my experiences!

[QUOTE=Tasss;2814281]Just got robbed yesterday around the SF area. Actual location is around the corner of Ave Caracas and Ave El Dorado and during broad daylight around 2 pm. Was coming back from supply shopping and a harmless looking girl was loitering around the buildings at the corner. Thought I'd just go around her but instead she steps in front of me, gets close and pulls out a knife and demands my phone. Unfortunately there was no one around for 50+ yards / meters and well you can't think too much at that time so I just gave it to her. Maybe I could have dropped my stuff and make a run for it towards people, but it's not easy to think when there's a knife a few inches from your face. Well she runs off and I followed her a bit shouting ladron but no one is around and she threatens to stab me so forget it. Anyways I don't bring a nice phone outside, it's like a $70 Motorola and this not being the first time I was robbed in Colombia I don't bring out anything I couldn't afford to lose. My Galaxy S22+ stays indoors and I actually bring a 2nd cheapo phone in case the Motorola gets stolen which it did. The problem with this is that I'm not sure what I could have done differently. I'm out in the middle of the day and I saw the girl so it's not like I was unaware. It's also really odd to stop walking forward if you see a lone person in front with no one around you, it probably makes you look even more like a potential victim. Stay safe all.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear what happened. I thought all modern phones are locatable.

Hi all.

Just another post to say thank you to everyone who contributes to this board, I've now made it to Tequendama for a few days where the game plan is prepagos in the day and the clubs in the evening.

I've noticed that girls who come to visit at the hotel want to take your full name, I've heard mixed ideas about this. At the same time though I'd rather the safety of the hotel room, especially after the guy who got thrown into a van after visiting a casa. On that note, if anybody goes out to visit a girl at her place, is it standard procedure that they let you wait until your taxi arrives or do they send you on your way?

I'm try my best to provide reports as I go along, I've booked Catalina from a few posts back who reviewed quite well. She seems friendly on WhatsApp and a keyboard translator but can't speak a lick of English so we'll see.

Will be getting in touch with Woodman once my subscription goes through.

Anybody who wants to wingman the clubs between tonight and the 10th let me know!

Thanks again everyone.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2814591]Tasss that's sucks, sorry that happened. Living in Miami, Atlanta that shit happens too. Anything she might have picked you as a target for? I know you said you had a cheapo phone. Do you look foreign, or not physically imposing? Dressed down? I only mean that bc I am foreign looking, rugby winger built (which doesn't mean crap in a fight) but at least being brown with a little mass while dressing cheap I had hoped to lower my own chances.[/QUOTE]I look like an obvious foreigner and I'm not big or bulky. This I can't change. But I dressed with jeans and hoodie, no logos or anything. You are definitely more of a target if you look foreign because foreigners are better risk / reward than robbing locals.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2814603]Sorry to hear what happened. I thought all modern phones are locatable.[/QUOTE]I tried find my phone but it reported the last location near where I lost it. I think if they factory reset it, find my phone won't work anymore, and it's possible to reset Androids without the PIN. I think find my phone on Androids at least is for finding one that you literally lost, not ones that are stolen. Anyways I'm not chasing after a $70 phone even if I knew where it was.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2814466]Doing a little Monday morning quarterbacking, I would have started talking in English acting like I did not understand Spanish.[/QUOTE]That's something I probably would not do personally to avoid making her panic and do something stupid. Sudden moves and unexpected actions can either help or can backfire badly in a situation like this.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2814603]Sorry to hear what happened. I thought all modern phones are locatable.[/QUOTE]If the phone is started up and google or equivalent is activated, yes. But that is not what happens. And even if it is. What are you going to do.

I have been told, and I experienced. They never restart the phone, they take out the battery then the SIM, and sell the phone for parts. Hopefully no one then is successful at stealing information. Not sure if that is possible at that point.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2814656]If the phone is started up and google or equivalent is activated, yes. But that is not what happens. And even if it is. What are you going to do.

I have been told, and I experienced. They never restart the phone, they take out the battery then the SIM, and sell the phone for parts. Hopefully no one then is successful at stealing information. Not sure if that is possible at that point.[/QUOTE]The SIM can be critical for stealing infos due to a SIM being used for 2 F verifications or recovery of mail accounts etc. Therefore it is imperative to use a local throwaway SIM in any cheap phone. Anyway, this kind of mishap makes you think twice about wanting to live in Colombia rather than (in my case) Thailand.

Gentlemen,

I will be staying near Absolut, and not sure I can leave Zona Rosa. A few questions:

1. What will BBBJ cost me at Absolut (an hour session)? Is it fairly common or are they all CBJ there?

2. Is it hard to get an Absolut girl to come to your hotel in the evening or even do GFE?

3. What other spas are within safe walk of Absolut.

4. Any freelancers to be found at the casinos, restaurants, or hotels in this area?

Gracias.

[QUOTE=Kib123;2697350]Good report Jack, but you picked the absolute worst spas. Virtually all spas between CL72 and 100, and east of CR20 are ripoff joints in my opinion. You get better value and performance in the spas further north, past Mezz.[/QUOTE]What are the names of the other spas in this area you mention?

Many thanks.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2814281]Just got robbed yesterday around the SF area. Actual location is around the corner of Ave Caracas and Ave El Dorado and during broad daylight around 2 pm. Was coming back from supply shopping and a harmless looking girl was loitering around the buildings at the corner. Thought I'd just go around her but instead she steps in front of me, gets close and pulls out a knife and demands my phone. Unfortunately there was no one around for 50+ yards / meters and well you can't think too much at that time so I just gave it to her. Maybe I could have dropped my stuff and make a run for it towards people, but it's not easy to think when there's a knife a few inches from your face. Well she runs off and I followed her a bit shouting ladron but no one is around and she threatens to stab me so forget it. Anyways I don't bring a nice phone outside, it's like a $70 Motorola and this not being the first time I was robbed in Colombia I don't bring out anything I couldn't afford to lose. My Galaxy S22+ stays indoors and I actually bring a 2nd cheapo phone in case the Motorola gets stolen which it did. The problem with this is that I'm not sure what I could have done differently. I'm out in the middle of the day and I saw the girl so it's not like I was unaware. It's also really odd to stop walking forward if you see a lone person in front with no one around you, it probably makes you look even more like a potential victim. Stay safe all.[/QUOTE]I'm not a fan of SF but for some guys its heaven. Any talk of danger in SF and the fans of SF will come down on you. However, there are lots of areas as dangerous and even more dangerous than SF.

I think its rare in the center of SF in front of the clubs because the owners of the clubs have a vested interest to keep it low key. I have tried to warn guys for years about the dangers of Bogota.

Time of day, crowded areas do not gurantee you of any security. Although time and area will effect your chances of a mugging, to some degree. People around mean NOTHING, Bogotanos WILL NOT GET INVOLVED.

My girlfriend of 5 years had her 5th phone stolen in 5 years, last week, at lunch time, in el centro with lots of people around.

She is doing her internship at a large engineering firm, from 7 to 1 and then 2 to 7 at class in the Nat'l University. As she made her way into the street half running from the transmilenio platform a big black Colombian with a large knife jumped in front of her and put the knife into her side and demand her phone, wallet computer etc. In her back pack. She stalled a bit hoping someone would step in, of course NO ONE did and never will. He got pissed she wasn't moving fast enough. By this time she got her phone out of her bag he grabbed it, punched her in the eye, breaking her glasses and cutting her on the side of her face, just missing her eye. He ran away. Immediately another man came up to her, didn't offer help, only asked her what did he steal from you. WHY you ask? Because they were working together, he was in on the robbery and wanted to know what his accomplice stole so the thief couldn't hold out on him. She then saw him talking to thief as they disappeared into the crowd. Bogota is dangerous, don't listen to anyone who tells you different, if they haven't been robbed yet its because they have not spent a enouhgh time in Bogota yet or don't live there.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2814281]Just got robbed yesterday around the SF area. Actual location is around the corner of Ave Caracas and Ave El Dorado and during broad daylight around 2 pm. Was coming back from supply shopping and a harmless looking girl was loitering around the buildings at the corner. Thought I'd just go around her but instead she steps in front of me, gets close and pulls out a knife and demands my phone. Unfortunately there was no one around for 50+ yards / meters and well you can't think too much at that time so I just gave it to her. Maybe I could have dropped my stuff and make a run for it towards people, but it's not easy to think when there's a knife a few inches from your face. Well she runs off and I followed her a bit shouting ladron but no one is around and she threatens to stab me so forget it. Anyways I don't bring a nice phone outside, it's like a $70 Motorola and this not being the first time I was robbed in Colombia I don't bring out anything I couldn't afford to lose. My Galaxy S22+ stays indoors and I actually bring a 2nd cheapo phone in case the Motorola gets stolen which it did. The problem with this is that I'm not sure what I could have done differently. I'm out in the middle of the day and I saw the girl so it's not like I was unaware. It's also really odd to stop walking forward if you see a lone person in front with no one around you, it probably makes you look even more like a potential victim. Stay safe all.[/QUOTE]So sorry to hear that.

I live in the nearby Hyatt Place Convention Center. After learning about your incident I am quite worried about the area surrounding my hotel.

I'm trying to get my baseline risk down to typical large American city, which is tough since my Spanish is still weak for now.

I'm staying in Chapinero, if I dress down, don't draw attention, stay away from sketch spots. At Zona T or the touristy / gringo friendly bars will I still need to be paranoid about my phone S23? Other than Whatsapp / Google translate at the bar, just keeping zipped with a money / phone belt to my stomach. Perhaps just sticking to midscale or upscale dance party bars / clubs with bouncers?

For SF, I'm only taking Uber directly to & from front of the Troya, Fiebre spot. Is it smart to tip a door guy or server specifically to wait for your Uber with you? Or just tip in general right off the bat? Or is that overkill as long as I'm directly in front?

I just spent my first day in Bogota, and also the first day in South America, for that matter. As a crazy ass man stuck in China throughout his life, I've been super excited about this trip since it's my first time ever to play with some juicy ass. Unfortunately, the overall experience is terrible.

First of all, I was ripped off by my uber driver when I was going from the airport to airbnb. After dropping me off in Usaquen, the scumbag kept the meter running by circling around, and the final bill cost me about 20,000 more. It's not a lot of money, but I find it disgusting.

Then I scheduled a 1 hour session with Danna from Eroticas Bogota. I've read great things about this agency lately, so I decided to give it a shot. I confirmed with the receptionist that Danna was available and went to get a room in a love motel. But after I sent the receptionist the photo of my room key, the asshole told me that "unfortunately, Danna has already committed herself to family matter". On top of that, he recommended a few girls to me. Obviously the bottom-of-the-barrel type that probably nobody has booked before. Fuck off! I will never do business with this agency again.

After the escort thing went south, I decided to give Loutron a try. The bastards that run this place blatantly quoted me "400 mil for the girl, 300 mil for the room, so 700 mil in total for 1 hour". Ridiculous and shameless!

To be honest, Colombia is not my first choice as a mongering destination. My dream land is the legendary bundaland: Brazil. Unfortunately, I didn't get my Brazilian visa in China, so I flew all the way down to Colombia to apply for the visa here because the application requirements are much more lenient. But before I get my Brazilian visa, I still need to find some way to happily monger here. Since Santa Fe is too raunchy for me, it's not an option. Do you guys have any ideas? Please advise. Thank you.

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Reading all these posts about robberies makes me think I'll stay with my MO when I'm in Bogota. I only had a very short time in Bogota. I arrived at my hotel very late at night and had to leave not long after noon the next day. Those aren't the best time for out calls but Mary and I finally linked up. I really didn't know what kind of service I would get but doing a search in Locanto for "masaje" gives returns for providers in almost every city in SA. Almost every time I get full service but not always.

Mary showed up with a mask on. We walked right past reception at my very nice hotel on el Dorado and into the elevators. In the room I pulled back the covers on the bed, stripped and layed down. When Mary came out of the bathroom she was fully dressed and getting oil out of her purse. She started on my feet, then worked her way up to my calves and lower hammies, all the while standing by the far side of the bed. I still have no idea if I'll get anything more than a massage. It wasn't until she climbed on the bed and sat by my hips that I finally had a chance to touch her. Very gently I stroked her thigh, then later up to her hip, eventually a little cheek around the back. After a bit of this she rose to her knees to massage the far side of my back but she hasn't even approached the bait and tackle by this time. I get more aggressive with my hands and finally she makes it clear that she's there for the asking.

Then it all accelerated from there. I slide my hands under her spandex and grab a handfull of butt and get my fingers wet too. Mary is all over my ass with her hands and keeping her butt on display for me to play with. I'm really impressed with her butt, which is great because I didn't get much of a view of her at all before the massage started. I slid her pants over her cheeks and down to her knees and, damn, I'm in love. What a great butt, especially considering she's not even in her 20's anymore. We just played with each other for minutes until I just had to keep going.

Her breasts are just great. I couldn't believe how lively they were until I saw the reduction scars. No wonder! They were bigger at one time but still DS at least. The see-section scar was also visible but very old and didn't bother me a bit. Nice hips, legs, attitude. I couldn't help myself. I went down on her in 69, but since she had already oiled up Jr I kept my hips to the side of her head. She grabbed him anyway and slid her mouth over to take him in. Ok, I lifted my knee to the other side of her head and now she's got it all in her mouth (not much of a problem with me though). I don't know what she was doing but I had to pull out, not because I was being polite but because the sensation was so intense I couldn't take it anymore.

When I could finally collect myself and turn around I saw the huge mess I had left on her neck and chest. She was just sitting there grinning at me and made no attempt to clean up, wipe things away or get to the bathroom. I just layed beside her for a while until I got up to get some tissues.

Mary ended up being loads of fun. She's probably the girl in the photo but something has happened, maybe a car accident or something. I might see her again depending on how often I get to Bogota, which isn't very often. One more thing. I don't use the "masajes eroticos" section. I just do a search for "masaje. ".

[QUOTE=PineTree;2815110]One more thing. I don't use the "masajes eroticos" section. I just do a search for "masaje..[/QUOTE]Why write all of this and not include any prices?

[QUOTE=Gropai;2815021]I just spent my first day in Bogota, and also the first day in South America, for that matter. As a crazy ass man stuck in China throughout his life, I've been super excited about this trip since it's my first time ever to play with some juicy ass. Unfortunately, the overall experience is terrible.

First of all, I was ripped off by my uber driver when I was going from the airport to airbnb. After dropping me off in Usaquen, the scumbag kept the meter running by circling around, and the final bill cost me about 20,000 more. It's not a lot of money, but I find it disgusting.

Then I scheduled a 1 hour session with Danna from Eroticas Bogota. I've read great things about this agency lately, so I decided to give it a shot. I confirmed with the receptionist that Danna was available and went to get a room in a love motel. But after I sent the receptionist the photo of my room key, the asshole told me that "unfortunately, Danna has already committed herself to family matter". On top of that, he recommended a few girls to me. Obviously the bottom-of-the-barrel type that probably nobody has booked before. Fuck off! I will never do business with this agency again.

After the escort thing went south, I decided to give Loutron a try. The bastards that run this place blatantly quoted me "400 mil for the girl, 300 mil for the room, so 700 mil in total for 1 hour". Ridiculous and shameless!

To be honest, Colombia is not my first choice as a mongering destination. My dream land is the legendary bundaland: Brazil. Unfortunately, I didn't get my Brazilian visa in China, so I flew all the way down to Colombia to apply for the visa here because the application requirements are much more lenient. But before I get my Brazilian visa, I still need to find some way to happily monger here. Since Santa Fe is too raunchy for me, it's not an option. Do you guys have any ideas? Please advise. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Eroticas Bogota is NOT a verg good agency. Try LaCelestina. Co agency. And make sure you are not in fleabag of a motel, just in case you are staying in one. Many agency girls do not like coming to bottom tier hotels.

[QUOTE=Gropai;2815021]I just spent my first day in Bogota, and also the first day in South America, for that matter. As a crazy ass man stuck in China throughout his life, I've been super excited about this trip since it's my first time ever to play with some juicy ass. Unfortunately, the overall experience is terrible.

First of all, I was ripped off by my uber driver when I was going from the airport to airbnb. After dropping me off in Usaquen, the scumbag kept the meter running by circling around, and the final bill cost me about 20,000 more. It's not a lot of money, but I find it disgusting.

Then I scheduled a 1 hour session with Danna from Eroticas Bogota. I've read great things about this agency lately, so I decided to give it a shot. I confirmed with the receptionist that Danna was available and went to get a room in a love motel. But after I sent the receptionist the photo of my room key, the asshole told me that "unfortunately, Danna has already committed herself to family matter". On top of that, he recommended a few girls to me. Obviously the bottom-of-the-barrel type that probably nobody has booked before. Fuck off! I will never do business with this agency again.

After the escort thing went south, I decided to give Loutron a try. The bastards that run this place blatantly quoted me "400 mil for the girl, 300 mil for the room, so 700 mil in total for 1 hour". Ridiculous and shameless!.[/QUOTE]I recommend you contact Uber support for a refund on the additional amount.

Try lacelestina agency since Eroticas Bogot was unreliable. You may also be happy with Absolut Spa, it should be about 350 mil per hour, between noon and 6 pm for the best selection.

[QUOTE=BroScientist;2815145]Eroticas Bogota is NOT a verg good agency. Try LaCelestina. Co agency. And make sure you are not in fleabag of a motel, just in case you are staying in one. Many agency girls do not like coming to bottom tier hotels.[/QUOTE]That's a bummer, I am looking at booking Danna at Eroticas Bog too, she's by far their most expensive girl, but does seem slightly hotter than the rest. Since I have the budget I'll also book LaCelestina as well on my 1st day so I can feel them out. I have a hotel so I don't lose money or time.

[QUOTE=Gropai;2815021]I just spent my first day in Bogota, and also the first day in South America, for that matter. As a crazy ass man stuck in China throughout his life, I've been super excited about this trip since it's my first time ever to play with some juicy ass. Unfortunately, the overall experience is terrible.

First of all, I was ripped off by my uber driver when I was going from the airport to airbnb. After dropping me off in Usaquen, the scumbag kept the meter running by circling around, and the final bill cost me about 20,000 more. It's not a lot of money, but I find it disgusting.

Then I scheduled a 1 hour session with Danna from Eroticas Bogota. I've read great things about this agency lately, so I decided to give it a shot. I confirmed with the receptionist that Danna was available and went to get a room in a love motel. But after I sent the receptionist the photo of my room key, the asshole told me that "unfortunately, Danna has already committed herself to family matter". On top of that, he recommended a few girls to me. Obviously the bottom-of-the-barrel type that probably nobody has booked before. Fuck off! I will never do business with this agency again.

After the escort thing went south, I decided to give Loutron a try. The bastards that run this place blatantly quoted me "400 mil for the girl, 300 mil for the room, so 700 mil in total for 1 hour". Ridiculous and shameless!

To be honest, Colombia is not my first choice as a mongering destination. My dream land is the legendary bundaland: Brazil. Unfortunately, I didn't get my Brazilian visa in China, so I flew all the way down to Colombia to apply for the visa here because the application requirements are much more lenient. But before I get my Brazilian visa, I still need to find some way to happily monger here. Since Santa Fe is too raunchy for me, it's not an option. Do you guys have any ideas? Please advise. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Sorry that happened. You can dispute it with Uber pretty easily, especially since they track the drivers heat map (I believe) so they can see the funny business and reimburse.

Loutron didn't have great reviews on this board before. Lido & Loutron I might check out out of pure curiosity and if nearby, but I read a lot even on Google they scam. Did they have hot girls there at least?

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2814946]I'm trying to get my baseline risk down to typical large American city, which is tough since my Spanish is still weak for now.

I'm staying in Chapinero, if I dress down, don't draw attention, stay away from sketch spots. At Zona T or the touristy / gringo friendly bars will I still need to be paranoid about my phone S23? Other than Whatsapp / Google translate at the bar, just keeping zipped with a money / phone belt to my stomach. Perhaps just sticking to midscale or upscale dance party bars / clubs with bouncers?

For SF, I'm only taking Uber directly to & from front of the Troya, Fiebre spot. Is it smart to tip a door guy or server specifically to wait for your Uber with you? Or just tip in general right off the bat? Or is that overkill as long as I'm directly in front?[/QUOTE]I recommend carrying a cheap secondary phone with a local SIM no matter which neighborhoods or venues you're going to. Leave your main phone with your banking and cash transfer apps in your hotel or apartment.

I don't think it's necessary to tip someone to wait for your Uber with you when you're getting picked up outside the main Santa Fe clubs. You can wait inside until the car is outside ready for you. Robberies can happen anywhere in the world but I think the main few blocks within the tolerance zone are safe.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2814946]I'm trying to get my baseline risk down to typical large American city, which is tough since my Spanish is still weak for now.

I'm staying in Chapinero, if I dress down, don't draw attention, stay away from sketch spots. At Zona T or the touristy / gringo friendly bars will I still need to be paranoid about my phone S23? Other than Whatsapp / Google translate at the bar, just keeping zipped with a money / phone belt to my stomach. Perhaps just sticking to midscale or upscale dance party bars / clubs with bouncers?

For SF, I'm only taking Uber directly to & from front of the Troya, Fiebre spot. Is it smart to tip a door guy or server specifically to wait for your Uber with you? Or just tip in general right off the bat? Or is that overkill as long as I'm directly in front?[/QUOTE]- dress down, blend in generally.

- know where you are going, don't be that guy looking lost and trying to figure out where he is on his phone. If you need to look at your phone, go into a store or at least into a door way.

- don't carry more cash than you're willing to lose.

- if you're going to normal dance clubs / bars, you can bring minimal cash, most places in Zona T take credit cards, no problem.

- If you like your S23, leave it at home. Get a burner phone, something simple with whatsapp. They're cheap now.

- If anyone tries to mug you, give up your shit. Its not worth it.

- no need to tip any door man, you can tip your waiter if you want, but even that is optional. They're probably going to try to overcharge you anways if you don't speak spanish. Don't tip on top of being overcharged. You can just wait inside until your uber arrives. The chances of anyone trying to mug you are really slim if you're just going from the club straight to a car.

- don't go into any dark alleyways without any people in it.

I've spent a lot of time in Bogota and have seen my share of shit, but never been mugged, luckily. Its a big city and santa fe is a shitty area.

Its definitely dangerous. I would never let my guard down in Santa Fe. There's always someone watching you. Theres always some wierd shit going on, that you'd rather not know about.

Do not take it lightly. That said, its about the cheapest sex you're going to get anywhere, but its really basic. Don't expect any GFE there.

There are some gems there, but not many, and it takes time to find them. The chances you're going to find one, if you're on vacation in Bogota for a week and go to there 2 or 3 times, is pretty low. Really question people who say there are 9's and 10's in santa fe. I would say there are plenty of 6's, a few 7's and if you're really lucky, an 8.

I used to go there almost everyday, but I think my standards have gone up, and it takes me longer to find anyone worth having sex with there, so I don't go there as much anymore.

Good hunting! Stay safe!

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2814931]I'm not a fan of SF but for some guys its heaven. Any talk of danger in SF and the fans of SF will come down on you. However, there are lots of areas as dangerous and even more dangerous than SF.

I think its rare in the center of SF in front of the clubs because the owners of the clubs have a vested interest to keep it low key. I have tried to warn guys for years about the dangers of Bogota.

Time of day, crowded areas do not gurantee you of any security. Although time and area will effect your chances of a mugging, to some degree. People around mean NOTHING, Bogotanos WILL NOT GET INVOLVED.

My girlfriend of 5 years had her 5th phone stolen in 5 years, last week, at lunch time, in el centro with lots of people around.

She is doing her internship at a large engineering firm, from 7 to 1 and then 2 to 7 at class in the Nat'l University. As she made her way into the street half running from the transmilenio platform a big black Colombian with a large knife jumped in front of her and put the knife into her side and demand her phone, wallet computer etc. In her back pack. She stalled a bit hoping someone would step in, of course NO ONE did and never will. He got pissed she wasn't moving fast enough. By this time she got her phone out of her bag he grabbed it, punched her in the eye, breaking her glasses and cutting her on the side of her face, just missing her eye. He ran away. Immediately another man came up to her, didn't offer help, only asked her what did he steal from you. WHY you ask? Because they were working together, he was in on the robbery and wanted to know what his accomplice stole so the thief couldn't hold out on him. She then saw him talking to thief as they disappeared into the crowd. Bogota is dangerous, don't listen to anyone who tells you different, if they haven't been robbed yet its because they have not spent a enouhgh time in Bogota yet or don't live there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Priint;2814554]This is great info. Thank you! For my upcoming trip in 3 weeks I am currently booked at Hyatt Place Convention Center. Any idea if this hotel is in a good area with restaurants within walking distance? Hotel is highly rated and most reviews say it is in a safe area. However it is not in Chapinero and after reading multiple posts here I am debating whether I should switch to another hotel in that part of town.[/QUOTE]Its not going to be like Zona T, there are some restaurants, but the area is not known for restaurants, no one goes there to eat specifically, they'll eat there because they happen to be there.

Anywhere you go from the the Hyatt Place, you're going to be taking a taxi or an uber, theres nothing really interesting around. Although there is a bar very near the hotel, called la oficina, that offers girls, but I doubt the quality there. There is also a casa that many girls work out at carrera 44 A #24 B-36 that's about a 5 block walk away.

The hotel itself is quite good, and usually is decently priced. And GF, although they will try to charge you 60 k if the girl stays overnight. If you book the room for 2, you might be able to talk yourself out of that charge though.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2815162] Did they have hot girls there at least?[/QUOTE]There was only one girl. Average face, but the body was hot. An 8 maybe.

Sorry, that sounds like a shitty experience, unfortunately, that's the risk when going off of mileroticos or photoprepagos. ALL the photos are altered!

You never know what they're going to look like when you get there, but you do have the option of just saying, you don't look like your photos and leaving. But you've already wasted your time getting there, I get it. One general rule is to always opt for the minimal costing option, un rato. Then if she's actually good, you get her number, make sure its her number and not her managers. Or just come back and get a longer session. Also, if you're expecting more than 1 shot in a 1 hour session, you usually need to ask to make sure. Cuantos relaciones.

[QUOTE=BlueChange;2813670]Valery 160 HR + 90 mil oral natural.

I'm staying in the north and wanted something closer to me rather then tracking all the way down to Chapinero or Santa Fe.

I message her early she says she will be there in like a half hour.

Take a take to a regular residential building. The security guy talks to me thru a voice phone that has the sound quality of something alexander graham bell made.

I get buzzed in, go take a small elevator a couple floors up. I ring the bell and slowly a cute redhead answers. It is the girl in the photo.

Her face isn't anything special to write home about but she isn't ugly either, its just sort of mid. Her body is nice though. She has fake tits BUT they are very squishy like she had them for several years. You can see small cuts in the nipples where they went in. Her skin is very white.

I pay her for the hour and we get right down to business. She dances on my standing for about 30 seconds then puts me on the bed. I take off my clothes as she reveals her nice Full see almost the cups. I suck on her nipples but when I go in for a kiss she does a cheek turn. This chick does ZERO kissing at all. Not even a neck or anything. Ok.

She wipes me with an alcohol wipe for like 45 seconds then puts me in her mouth but I'm not really even that hard. However, her mouth is very soft and she has regular suction. I start to get harder while playing with her pussy and tits and while I want more she just grabs the rubber, puts it on and mounts me. ,Her pussy is very tight and she has a homer mouth style innie. 5 min in she says "in quatro" she bends over and has a great ass however I just feel her not there, not in the moment and the mechanics of it all coming together.

I switch to sideways so I can see her tits bouncing and then eventually on top. I ask her to finish me on her tits and she sucks me. I get close to cumming but she damn near stops as I'm close to cumming and ALMOST gives me a ruined orgasm. I had to grab my Johnson from her halfway and keep going so I could get the full experience. She cleans herself off and then asks if I want a massage. I say yes. She puts on super cold cream and massages me for literally 2 minutes and then says "ok terminar".

I lay there just going thru my phone with messages and thinking how I should have just done a half hour. She goes away for 5 min and talks with her friend who is in the other room. She comes back in and is basically asking me what I am still doing there, the price was only for 1 relation. I said "yo pago para 1 hora" she is obviously upset that I haven't already left as its only been like 35 minutes or so. I just feel frustrated so 5 min later I put my clothes on and bounce.

Face 5.

Body 7. 5.

Performance 3.

Valery 3227947728.

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As I begin this post I hope all you ISG guys are in good health-.

I knock on wood everyday-- maybe that has kept me safe while living in Danger Danger Santa Fe for 9+years?

Seriously though I know some people are more prone to being robbed-.

Being / showing intimidation is not something you don't want to do-- But some guys appear more vulnerable than others and get picked out.

The guy who posted recently about being robbed-- that particular block is a good one to be on gaurd as it is kinda isolated and there are a lot of homeless there-.

He was not in the main area.

If you are a woman your odds of being robbed increase exponentially anywhere in the world-- Sorry to hear about LL's GF-.

Personally I have been to places that are Much more dangerous than Santa Fe --Like South Central LA, the Bronx and Tijuana-.

Here they are just not as predatory as many many other places like Medellin-- Or the North of Bogota where Professional Ladrones Hunt Gringos-.

I have not been robbed yet on tour or alone-- I cannot gaurantee that it won't happen --I Shall Remain vigilent.

-- Get To Santa Fe and Bang Away!

[QUOTE=Gropai;2815021]I just spent my first day in Bogota, and also the first day in South America, for that matter. As a crazy ass man stuck in China throughout his life, I've been super excited about this trip since it's my first time ever to play with some juicy ass. Unfortunately, the overall experience is terrible.

First of all, I was ripped off by my uber driver when I was going from the airport to airbnb. After dropping me off in Usaquen, the scumbag kept the meter running by circling around, and the final bill cost me about 20,000 more. It's not a lot of money, but I find it disgusting.

Then I scheduled a 1 hour session with Danna from Eroticas Bogota. I've read great things about this agency lately, so I decided to give it a shot. I confirmed with the receptionist that Danna was available and went to get a room in a love motel. But after I sent the receptionist the photo of my room key, the asshole told me that "unfortunately, Danna has already committed herself to family matter". On top of that, he recommended a few girls to me. Obviously the bottom-of-the-barrel type that probably nobody has booked before. Fuck off! I will never do business with this agency again.

After the escort thing went south, I decided to give Loutron a try. The bastards that run this place blatantly quoted me "400 mil for the girl, 300 mil for the room, so 700 mil in total for 1 hour". Ridiculous and shameless!

To be honest, Colombia is not my first choice as a mongering destination. My dream land is the legendary bundaland: Brazil. Unfortunately, I didn't get my Brazilian visa in China, so I flew all the way down to Colombia to apply for the visa here because the application requirements are much more lenient. But before I get my Brazilian visa, I still need to find some way to happily monger here. Since Santa Fe is too raunchy for me, it's not an option. Do you guys have any ideas? Please advise. Thank you.[/QUOTE]Sorry about that but try Medellin I think you will find it competes better with Brazil. Much better weather easier to get around etc and Paisa pussy!

Back in Bogotá for a five days, if anyone fancies meeting up to tour Santa Fé, let me know. Easy-going and friendly.

[QUOTE=Priint;2814554]This is great info. Thank you! For my upcoming trip in 3 weeks I am currently booked at Hyatt Place Convention Center. Any idea if this hotel is in a good area with restaurants within walking distance? Hotel is highly rated and most reviews say it is in a safe area. However it is not in Chapinero and after reading multiple posts here I am debating whether I should switch to another hotel in that part of town.[/QUOTE]A place called "Abejitas" should be within walking distance of your hotel. I have not been there personally but I have heard good things about it.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2815179]Its not going to be like Zona T, there are some restaurants, but the area is not known for restaurants, no one goes there to eat specifically, they'll eat there because they happen to be there.

Anywhere you go from the the Hyatt Place, you're going to be taking a taxi or an uber, theres nothing really interesting around. Although there is a bar very near the hotel, called la oficina, that offers girls, but I doubt the quality there. There is also a casa that many girls work out at carrera 44 A #24 B-36 that's about a 5 block walk away.

The hotel itself is quite good, and usually is decently priced. And GF, although they will try to charge you 60 k if the girl stays overnight. If you book the room for 2, you might be able to talk yourself out of that charge though.[/QUOTE]Thank you for confirming what I've been able to gauge from some old posts and reviews. I got a nice deal using Hyatt points but not worth it given these shortcomings. Zona T definitely sounds like the best location; I have booked Hotel B3.

Hate to add another shitty report and this one will not apply to everyone. It's specific for people who like to do outcalls. Note that even though I took the girl from SF, this can happen on any outcall. You're susceptible as long as you let the girl into your room, whether she comes from SF, Photoprepagos or Mileroticos. So outcalls have a lot of risks and I try my best to protect myself but you can't avoid all problems.

This girl uses the name Alejandra Reyes and works at SF. I gave her my offer to go to my apartment for 1 HR and she thinks about it and agrees. She says she needs to go buy beer first and we should drink. I told her you can buy drinks, and I'd pay for your beers after our session, that's not a problem. But I don't drink myself. This is obviously to protect myself from scoping but I also don't like alcohol in reality. She buys 4 cans of beer, we get in the taxi and she keeps insisting that I open one even though I kept telling her no. She keeps insisting, then I'm thinking, this isn't good, she's has a high probability of being a scoper and I need to get myself out of the situation. Her carrying what looks like an iPhone 12/13 in Santa Fe is another warning sign but I didn't see it initially. Girls normally will not take expensive phones to Santa Fe unless it didn't cost them much (gifted or stolen). So when we get to the apartment, taxi driver sees that I'm distracted trying to avoid opening the beers so he tried to pass me a fake 10 mil as change. The bill felt super fake so I'm like nope, then he charges me 15 mil for the ride, even though it's always 6-8 mil. So whatever fuck this guy, I pay him 15 because I'm trying to get rid of this chica. I go into the apartment building which has a security guard. The guard and I are on good terms and I tip him from time to time. I told the guard through the translator don't let her inside and I went upstairs.

The next part is just kind of dumb on my part because it should have been over then. I ordered a Rappi which came about 10 minutes after I went upstairs. I thought the girl would have been gone by then but when I went down to get food she was still there. I got the Rappi and the girl keeps saying I need to pay her, I took out my phone for the translator and she grabs it in front of the security guard. Guard does nothing. I'm like wtf dude (we had a long conversation afterwards but tldr is that he doesn't want to get involved and thinks I should pay the possible scoper what I promised for the outcall, no f'ing way I'm doing that). Well after a lot of back and forth, I go upstairs and leave the phone with her since it's a shit backup phone. If you saw my previous post the phone I lost this time is the second cheapo phone, worth about $30. So between the earlier robbery and this one, I lost two phones worth $100 in Santa Fe.

So the only bright side is that I wasn't in any physical danger. But that's because 1) I don't like alcohol and avoid it altogether and 2) I knew about the scope attacks going on in Colombia. If though you're not aware of the scopolamine epidemic going on, especially in Medellin, maybe less so in Bogota, then you could very well lose a lot of money and potentially your life to "just a beer".

Here's the thing, although your experience might not match mine exactly, for example, you use some other "safer" outcall sources, you have no idea who these girls are and scams CAN happen. A mildly annoying example is the girl comes and she doesn't look anything like her online photos and getting rid of her becomes a chore, which did happen the first time I used Photoprepagos. Worse is if she doesn't perform and asks you to pay her (has happened to me also). Finally if she claims you were violent and blackmails you, thankfully has not happened to me but you can imagine that without in-room surveillence you'd be SOL.

I just came back from Flirt Hotel. Here's a report.

I've known about this place for a long time and know it's expensive, but when I talked to the receptionist on whatsapp I was still a little shocked. You need to transfer 30 USD to be able to make a reservation for a visit. The money is consumable as part of the final bill. One hour costs 200 USD for the girl and 100 USD for the room. Also, the receptionist told me it's "customary" to buy the girl you choose a cocktail or champagne, which is around 70 mil, and you don't have to buy one for yourself. So, in total, a 1 hour session is in the 300 - 350 USD range. Exorbitant by Colombian standards.

I hesitated a little bit, but finally decided to bite the bullet. I spent 3000 USD on air fare, 30+ hours on the plane and quit my job for this trip. I don't mind spending a few hundred more. In for a penny, in for a pound.

The receptionist told me on whatsapp that today is Monday, so pickings were pretty slim with only 7 girls. Among the 7 girls, only 2 have all natural body. I was disappointed and the receptionist reassured me if I don't like the girls after seeing the lineup, I can just leave and come another day.

But after seeing the lineup, I picked one of the 2 natural girls anyway. Her face was 7, body was 8: all natural with nice curves and a round and bouncing ass. She would score better if she had a more athletic physique and didn't have baby damage. The session was done in a nice room, maybe equivalent to a 3-star hotel room. The most amazing thing about this girl is how committed she was during the session. Even though she didn't offer BBBJ, she volunteered to do DFK and deepthroat passionately, and even choked multiple times. She rode me crazy until she was exhausted and even so she didn't quit because our session didn't end. I usually don't tip girls, but I tipped her because she worked really hard. However, you should beware that according to past reports girls at Flirt Hotel don't always have good service in bed.

The strange thing is when I paid at the end, I was charged in COP, not USD. And the bill came out to be around 1,200,000 COP, which is about 260 USD. I paid with credit card and there was no service fee. When the manager showed the owner of the place my bill, the owner couldn't help but show a happy face and genuinely thanked me for my visit. He even closed his palms when appreciating my visit. I guess he thought that was an Asian thing, LOL.

They sent me a driver for transportation free of charge, and the driver told me Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays usually have more girls, and they are usually younger too. I think I will repeat to see this place in its prime. It is indeed expensive, but at least the prices are open and on the table. It's equally expensive to everyone. The staff are cordial too. You won't feel like being ripped off and fooled around as a gringo.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2814946]
I'm staying in Chapinero, if I dress down, don't draw attention, stay away from sketch spots. At Zona T or the touristy / gringo friendly bars will I still need to be paranoid about my phone S23? Other than Whatsapp / Google translate at the bar, just keeping zipped with a money / phone belt to my stomach. Perhaps just sticking to midscale or upscale dance party bars / clubs with bouncers?[/QUOTE]The main thing that separates cheap and expensive phones nowadays is the camera. Budget and midrange phones will do everything you need to do in Colombia, like Translator, FB, Maps, WhatsApp etc. Why risk it even if the risk is relatively low by Bogota standards? Take like old Samsung S9/10 outside which takes alright pics and leave your S23 indoors unless you need exceptional low light photography.

[QUOTE=PineTree;2815259]A place called "Abejitas" should be within walking distance of your hotel. I have not been there personally but I have heard good things about it.[/QUOTE]I've been here after seeing a few positive reviews of this place. They have a few different branches, and there is one in corferias that is probably about a 10 leisurely minute walk away from the hyatt place.

My session there was good but the girls there are not particurlarly attractive. They show you a lineup of all the "therapists", but they are all dressed in loose fitting therapist uniforms.

You will have no idea what their bodies are like. I choose 1 based on her face, which upon a closer look wasn't that great.

She ended up being more thin than I usually like. I think it cost 190k or 180k for an hour. Had DFK, CBJ, very passionate lady, but probably will not repeat.

[QUOTE=Gropai;2815313]I just came back from Flirt Hotel. Here's a report.

I've known about this place for a long time and know it's expensive, but when I talked to the receptionist on whatsapp I was still a little shocked. You need to transfer 30 USD to be able to make a reservation for a visit. The money is consumable as part of the final bill. One hour costs 200 USD for the girl and 100 USD for the room. Also, the receptionist told me it's "customary" to buy the girl you choose a cocktail or champagne, which is around 70 mil, and you don't have to buy one for yourself. So, in total, a 1 hour session is in the 300 - 350 USD range. Exorbitant by Colombian standards.

I hesitated a little bit, but finally decided to bite the bullet. I spent 3000 USD on air fare, 30+ hours on the plane and quit my job for this trip. I don't mind spending a few hundred more. In for a penny, in for a pound.

The receptionist told me on whatsapp that today is Monday, so pickings were pretty slim with only 7 girls. Among the 7 girls, only 2 have all natural body. I was disappointed and the receptionist reassured me if I don't like the girls after seeing the lineup, I can just leave and come another day.

But after seeing the lineup, I picked one of the 2 natural girls anyway. Her face was 7, body was 8: all natural with nice curves and a round and bouncing ass. She would score better if she had a more athletic physique and didn't have baby damage. The session was done in a nice room, maybe equivalent to a 3-star hotel room. The most amazing thing about this girl is how committed she was during the session. Even though she didn't offer BBBJ, she volunteered to do DFK and deepthroat passionately, and even choked multiple times. She rode me crazy until she was exhausted and even so she didn't quit because our session didn't end. I usually don't tip girls, but I tipped her because she worked really hard. However, you should beware that according to past reports girls at Flirt Hotel don't always have good service in bed.

The strange thing is when I paid at the end, I was charged in COP, not USD. And the bill came out to be around 1,200,000 COP, which is about 260 USD. I paid with credit card and there was no service fee. When the manager showed the owner of the place my bill, the owner couldn't help but show a happy face and genuinely thanked me for my visit. He even closed his palms when appreciating my visit. I guess he thought that was an Asian thing, LOL.

They sent me a driver for transportation free of charge, and the driver told me Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays usually have more girls, and they are usually younger too. I think I will repeat to see this place in its prime. It is indeed expensive, but at least the prices are open and on the table. It's equally expensive to everyone. The staff are cordial too. You won't feel like being ripped off and fooled around as a gringo.[/QUOTE]I won't tell you how to spend your money, because everyone has there own budget, but yes, 1,200,000 per hour is extremely expensive. I'm not just talking about over paying I'm talking about in another league. I remember going to lido, which is already considered expensive and asking how much to take a girl back with me and was quoted 1 M. That was a girl who I considered a high 8, Jessica Alba look alike with a nice body to match. Given that, I would be terribly upset if the girl was anything but extremely enthusiastic. For that amount of money, you should be demanding the service that you received at the very minimum, not simply grateful. Lucky they don't know how to use exchange rates, 350 USD / HR is ridiculous, especially for someone with baby damage. But I'm glad you had a good time and great report!

Maybe you should give lido a shot as it might be to your liking. Or even Seeking Arrangement. If you're willing to spend 1 M per hour, I doubt you'll have trouble finding takers there.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2815335]The main thing that separates cheap and expensive phones nowadays is the camera. Budget and midrange phones will do everything you need to do in Colombia, like Translator, FB, Maps, WhatsApp etc. Why risk it even if the risk is relatively low by Bogota standards? Take like old Samsung S9/10 outside which takes alright pics and leave your S23 indoors unless you need exceptional low light photography.[/QUOTE]The main thing that separates your expensive phone and a cheap burner phone is the expensive phone probably has all your banking apps, crypto wallets, investment accounts, credit cards, etc.

If they steal your cheap phone and get access, they can find that you fucked Aleja, Fernanda and Camila yesterday. If they get access to your main phone, you could be out thousands.

Compromise. Buy a 2 year old expensive, unlocked phone, just put your basic needs on it and you protect all your stuff and still have a great camera. If you lose it, you're out $200, plus the pictures of Aleja, Fernanda and Camila.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2815335]The main thing that separates cheap and expensive phones nowadays is the camera. [/QUOTE]It is not the camera. It is the processor. Excellent cameras are a dime a dozen these days. Even my dashcam is 4 K and only cost about $80. A phone is not costing $1500 because of the camera.

"Smartphone companies' devices are valuable and expensive because of their processor chipset and given performance.

[URL]https://www.triveditech.com/types-of-processor-used-in-smartphones/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Tasss;2815305]Hate to add another shitty report and this one will not apply to everyone. It's specific for people who like to do outcalls. Note that even though I took the girl from SF, this can happen on any outcall. You're susceptible as long as you let the girl into your room, whether she comes from SF, Photoprepagos or Mileroticos. So outcalls have a lot of risks and I try my best to protect myself but you can't avoid all problems.

This girl uses the name Alejandra Reyes and works at SF. I gave her my offer to go to my apartment for 1 HR and she thinks about it and agrees. She says she needs to go buy beer first and we should drink. I told her you can buy drinks, and I'd pay for your beers after our session, that's not a problem. But I don't drink myself. This is obviously to protect myself from scoping but I also don't like alcohol in reality. She buys 4 cans of beer, we get in the taxi and she keeps insisting that I open one even though I kept telling her no. She keeps insisting, then I'm thinking, this isn't good, she's has a high probability of being a scoper and I need to get myself out of the situation. Her carrying what looks like an iPhone 12/13 in Santa Fe is another warning sign but I didn't see it initially. Girls normally will not take expensive phones to Santa Fe unless it didn't cost them much (gifted or stolen). So when we get to the apartment, taxi driver sees that I'm distracted trying to avoid opening the beers so he tried to pass me a fake 10 mil as change. The bill felt super fake so I'm like nope, then he charges me 15 mil for the ride, even though it's always 6-8 mil. So whatever fuck this guy, I pay him 15 because I'm trying to get rid of this chica. I go into the apartment building which has a security guard. The guard and I are on good terms and I tip him from time to time. I told the guard through the translator don't let her inside and I went upstairs.

The next part is just kind of dumb on my part because it should have been over then. I ordered a Rappi which came about 10 minutes after I went upstairs. I thought the girl would have been gone by then but when I went down to get food she was still there. I got the Rappi and the girl keeps saying I need to pay her, I took out my phone for the translator and she grabs it in front of the security guard. Guard does nothing. I'm like wtf dude (we had a long conversation afterwards but tldr is that he doesn't want to get involved and thinks I should pay the possible scoper what I promised for the outcall, no f'ing way I'm doing that). Well after a lot of back and forth, I go upstairs and leave the phone with her since it's a shit backup phone. If you saw my previous post the phone I lost this time is the second cheapo phone, worth about $30. So between the earlier robbery and this one, I lost two phones worth $100 in Santa Fe.

So the only bright side is that I wasn't in any physical danger. But that's because 1) I don't like alcohol and avoid it altogether and 2) I knew about the scope attacks going on in Colombia. If though you're not aware of the scopolamine epidemic going on, especially in Medellin, maybe less so in Bogota, then you could very well lose a lot of money and potentially your life to "just a beer".

Here's the thing, although your experience might not match mine exactly, for example, you use some other "safer" outcall sources, you have no idea who these girls are and scams CAN happen. A mildly annoying example is the girl comes and she doesn't look anything like her online photos and getting rid of her becomes a chore, which did happen the first time I used Photoprepagos. Worse is if she doesn't perform and asks you to pay her (has happened to me also). Finally if she claims you were violent and blackmails you, thankfully has not happened to me but you can imagine that without in-room surveillence you'd be SOL.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your story, and sorry that happened to you. You mentioned some things I wouldn't have picked up on, like her having an iPhone that's out of her league / stolen. I have an Eroticas set up due to other positive reviews of the site in general, but a random girl even if from a SF has less vetting. I think ill just leave the SF girls at the clubs and not try to bring any back.

I'm going on a Thurs-Sat to SF, I'm told there's more police then (though that they won't guarantee help you) but I read that it's better than nothing. Definitely scheduling Woodman for a wingman.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2815305]Hate to add another shitty report and this one will not apply to everyone. It's specific for people who like to do outcalls. Note that even though I took the girl from SF, this can happen on any outcall. You're susceptible as long as you let the girl into your room, whether she comes from SF, Photoprepagos or Mileroticos. So outcalls have a lot of risks and I try my best to protect myself but you can't avoid all problems.

This girl uses the name Alejandra Reyes and works at SF. I gave her my offer to go to my apartment for 1 HR and she thinks about it and agrees. She says she needs to go buy beer first and we should drink. I told her you can buy drinks, and I'd pay for your beers after our session, that's not a problem. But I don't drink myself. This is obviously to protect myself from scoping but I also don't like alcohol in reality. She buys 4 cans of beer, we get in the taxi and she keeps insisting that I open one even though I kept telling her no. She keeps insisting, then I'm thinking, this isn't good, she's has a high probability of being a scoper and I need to get myself out of the situation. Her carrying what looks like an iPhone 12/13 in Santa Fe is another warning sign but I didn't see it initially. Girls normally will not take expensive phones to Santa Fe unless it didn't cost them much (gifted or stolen). So when we get to the apartment, taxi driver sees that I'm distracted trying to avoid opening the beers so he tried to pass me a fake 10 mil as change. The bill felt super fake so I'm like nope, then he charges me 15 mil for the ride, even though it's always 6-8 mil. So whatever fuck this guy, I pay him 15 because I'm trying to get rid of this chica. I go into the apartment building which has a security guard. The guard and I are on good terms and I tip him from time to time. I told the guard through the translator don't let her inside and I went upstairs.

The next part is just kind of dumb on my part because it should have been over then. I ordered a Rappi which came about 10 minutes after I went upstairs. I thought the girl would have been gone by then but when I went down to get food she was still there. I got the Rappi and the girl keeps saying I need to pay her, I took out my phone for the translator and she grabs it in front of the security guard. Guard does nothing. I'm like wtf dude (we had a long conversation afterwards but tldr is that he doesn't want to get involved and thinks I should pay the possible scoper what I promised for the outcall, no f'ing way I'm doing that). Well after a lot of back and forth, I go upstairs and leave the phone with her since it's a shit backup phone. If you saw my previous post the phone I lost this time is the second cheapo phone, worth about $30. So between the earlier robbery and this one, I lost two phones worth $100 in Santa Fe.

So the only bright side is that I wasn't in any physical danger. But that's because 1) I don't like alcohol and avoid it altogether and 2) I knew about the scope attacks going on in Colombia. If though you're not aware of the scopolamine epidemic going on, especially in Medellin, maybe less so in Bogota, then you could very well lose a lot of money and potentially your life to "just a beer".

Here's the thing, although your experience might not match mine exactly, for example, you use some other "safer" outcall sources, you have no idea who these girls are and scams CAN happen. A mildly annoying example is the girl comes and she doesn't look anything like her online photos and getting rid of her becomes a chore, which did happen the first time I used Photoprepagos. Worse is if she doesn't perform and asks you to pay her (has happened to me also). Finally if she claims you were violent and blackmails you, thankfully has not happened to me but you can imagine that without in-room surveillence you'd be SOL.[/QUOTE]How would she put drugs into a can of beer you're opening yourself? I don't see anything she did wrong or even suspicious. I agree with the doorman, you should have paid her what you agreed on. You have the right to change your mind at the last minute but she showed up to the job and deserved compensation. If she had called the police I think they would have told you the same thing.

There are several ways to minimize risk and avoid becoming paranoid:

- Bang SF street chicas in the motel you found them standing in front of. Why move them around the city?

- If you want to use your main hotel, use an escort agency like La Celestina.

- If you want a longer session in SF, get a room at Santa Fe Suite (50 mil for two people until checkout at 3 pm the next day).

- If you want a longer session in an upscale room, use a love motel in Chapinero like Z Motel or Love 62.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2815446]It is not the camera. It is the processor. Excellent cameras are a dime a dozen these days. Even my dashcam is 4 K and only cost about $80. A phone is not costing $1500 because of the camera.

"Smartphone companies' devices are valuable and expensive because of their processor chipset and given performance.

[URL]https://www.triveditech.com/types-of-processor-used-in-smartphones/[/URL][/QUOTE]In the context of what ISG members want to do with the phone in Colombia, the main difference is the camera. Your daily activities involve things like FB, WhatsApp, Maps, Translator, web browsing, all you can do on a $70 MediaTek Helio phone. You don't need a $700 phone in Bogota unless you need to take nice pictures.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2815427]I won't tell you how to spend your money, because everyone has there own budget, but yes, 1,200,000 per hour is extremely expensive. I'm not just talking about over paying I'm talking about in another league. I remember going to lido, which is already considered expensive and asking how much to take a girl back with me and was quoted 1 M. That was a girl who I considered a high 8, Jessica Alba look alike with a nice body to match. Given that, I would be terribly upset if the girl was anything but extremely enthusiastic. For that amount of money, you should be demanding the service that you received at the very minimum, not simply grateful. Lucky they don't know how to use exchange rates, 350 USD / HR is ridiculous, especially for someone with baby damage. But I'm glad you had a good time and great report!

Maybe you should give lido a shot as it might be to your liking. Or even Seeking Arrangement. If you're willing to spend 1 M per hour, I doubt you'll have trouble finding takers there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for Flirt review, even compared to what I'm used to Miami & the purpose of being in Colombia that's high. I may check out Lido just once, if 1 mill equals $220 per hour, which is still way high but I can afford it if by some chance they have a 9 or 10 unicorn that grants every desire of mine.

I'm looking at Danna from Eroticas (unfortunately she cancelled on a previous poster here) as their most expensive girl by far. Her pics are gorgeous, as much as you can trust those sites, and even she is 680,000 cop per hour. The next tier of girls around 300-400 K with the majority of seemingly cute girls around 180-250 K. Including BBBJ. So I'll be avoiding Flirt. Maybe add in Celestina.

[QUOTE=JackEnBogo;2815498]How would she put drugs into a can of beer you're opening yourself? I don't see anything she did wrong or even suspicious. I agree with the doorman, you should have paid her what you agreed on. You have the right to change your mind at the last minute but she showed up to the job and deserved compensation. If she had called the police I think they would have told you the same thing.[/QUOTE]Use some foresight. She's asking me to drink even though I repeatedly told her that I don't. Whether I open the can or not is not the main problem. I didn't open the can just to avoid giving her another excuse to demand money from me. This is a minor thing in the whole scenario. Primarily you need to think about why she would insist that I drink even though I told her that I hate alcohol. There could be maybe a few reasons that might make some sense but there's one reason that seems most likely and the one you need to avoid at all costs. Should I allow her into my room and test whether she is a scoper or not? Fuck no. You'd be stupid to let her into your room where she can create all kinds of chaos even if you didn't get drugged. I offered her 100 mil to go back which is twice her short-time rate of 50 mil. If she really only cared about her time, which was all of 15 minutes from SF to my apartment, she would have taken the offer.

Another piece of evidence is that most girls know they have to register in the guest log and stop at the guard desk before going upstairs. She tried to sneak through.

Like I said, this report doesn't have lessons that apply to everyone. You don't think you're going to get into this situation. Sure OK. Skip my report.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2815598]Use some foresight. She's asking me to drink even though I repeatedly told her that I don't. Whether I open the can or not is not the main problem. I didn't open the can just to avoid giving her another excuse to demand money from me. This is a minor thing in the whole scenario. Primarily you need to think about why she would insist that I drink even though I told her that I hate alcohol. There could be maybe a few reasons that might make some sense but there's one reason that seems most likely and the one you need to avoid at all costs. Should I allow her into my room and test whether she is a scoper or not? Fuck no. You'd be stupid to let her into your room where she can create all kinds of chaos even if you didn't get drugged. I offered her 100 mil to go back which is twice her short-time rate of 50 mil. If she really only cared about her time, which was all of 15 minutes from SF to my apartment, she would have taken the offer.

Another piece of evidence is that most girls know they have to register in the guest log and stop at the guard desk before going upstairs. She tried to sneak through.

Like I said, this report doesn't have lessons that apply to everyone. You don't think you're going to get into this situation. Sure OK. Skip my report.[/QUOTE]A girl trying to push you to drink is a huge red flag. It only takes a second of distraction to slip something into a drink.

It's much easier to replace a girl than it is to replace your stuff.

[QUOTE=Tasss;2815503]In the context of what ISG members want to do with the phone in Colombia, the main difference is the camera. Your daily activities involve things like FB, WhatsApp, Maps, Translator, web browsing, all you can do on a $70 MediaTek Helio phone. You don't need a $700 phone in Bogota unless you need to take nice pictures.[/QUOTE]The main difference is not the camera. Cheap phones take good pictures. Cheap phones are not as fast and efficient and can not handle multi-tasking as expensive phones because they do not have the top notch processors that expensive phones have. Again, nobody that knows anything about electronics or photography is spending $1500 for a phone because of a camera. And if someone is, then they are mistaken on why the phone costs as much as it does.

I have always only carried 1 phone, and it has always been the most expensive one, dating back from my first days in Colombia when I had a Palm Treo 680 in like 2005. I hang out in Santa Fe all the time. I hang out downtown in Medellin. Villa Mimosa in Rio with my Samsung Flagship. I travel more than most and hang out in some shady places. Never have I had someone steal a phone from me. Back when I had a new Samsung S5 I even took pictures of street people downtown in Medellin at night and posted them here. Hell, it was last year when I took pictures in downtown Bogota at night using my Note 20 and posted them here. I guess some people are more susceptible to having shit taken though. Having 2 phones stolen in 1 trip? I think I would just stay home.

Hi, I'm looking for places similar to the Mezzanine in Usaquen: nice neighborhood, low key, works during daytime.

Thanks.

Also re: Uber scams, do complain to Uber after the ride, you will likely get a refund and sometimes they will fire the driver.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2815716]A girl trying to push you to drink is a huge red flag. It only takes a second of distraction to slip something into a drink.

It's much easier to replace a girl than it is to replace your stuff.[/QUOTE]Exactly! And when your spidey senses say to move on, it's best to move on.

Well done Tasss!

[QUOTE=JimmyBowl;2815814]Hi, I'm looking for places similar to the Mezzanine in Usaquen: nice neighborhood, low key, works during daytime.

Thanks.

Also re: Uber scams, do complain to Uber after the ride, you will likely get a refund and sometimes they will fire the driver.[/QUOTE]I think you'll have a tough time finding much. I would try some of the massage spas in the area. There are probably a few which will expand their services for you.

[QUOTE=RamblingRickey;2814895]Gentlemen,

I will be staying near Absolut, and not sure I can leave Zona Rosa. A few questions:

1. What will BBBJ cost me at Absolut (an hour session)? Is it fairly common or are they all CBJ there?

2. Is it hard to get an Absolut girl to come to your hotel in the evening or even do GFE?

3. What other spas are within safe walk of Absolut.

4. Any freelancers to be found at the casinos, restaurants, or hotels in this area?

Gracias.[/QUOTE]Anyone have thoughts on this? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=JackEnBogo;2815498]How would she put drugs into a can of beer you're opening yourself? I don't see anything she did wrong or even suspicious. [/QUOTE]If you don't see anything suspicious then you maybe too unsophisticated for Colombia. Latinos are very creative in criminal activities, recently I've read a story about sea-turtle used for cocaine smuggling. They want to drug gringo but they know scam is out everybody knows so how can you gain his trust? Just give him sealed bottle or can and it switches off his red-flag radar because gringos are not experienced with creative criminals. Even amateur can re-cap beer bottle. See it yourself. You can also refill alu can. It took me two minutes two find tutorial on YouTube. The guy probably saved his wealth or maybe life by having red-flag radar on. Why a girl would insist on him drinking when he said no? Makes no sense unless there is motive behind this action.

Refill tutorial:

[URL]https://youtu.be/7WiboyG_ik4[/URL]

[URL]https://youtu.be/-fMV_lNXnDw[/URL]

I accidently posted this in the Cali reports, instead of Bogota. Admin please delete My duplicate post in Cali reports.

I have met up with this chicka a few times who is really a fun fuck, down to earth girl honest a gives a guy a real good time. She does not speak any english but can communicate well with what's app and google translate. You can send messages to her in English. She does outcall for 200 K plus taxi fee. Anal is extra 90 K.

Here is a link to her that has her whatsapp ctc: [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/karol-exelente-amante-me-encanta-el-anal/23903493/[/URL].

Treat her well and she reciprocates well.

Here is her profile translated.

"I am everything you were looking for, an excellent lover, hot, I love anal sex, accommodating and very educated.

Hello my love, I am Karol, I am 23 years old, I have a beautiful body and delicious curves, round buttocks and a beautiful face.

Today you will have the pleasure of having me naked in my bed. I offer you a moment full of pleasure, get out of the routine with me, I am sweet and accommodating.

I will be your lover and I will captivate you with my beauty and delicious movements in bed, the best thing is that I am independent I am very discreet, kind, affectionate.

I wait for you, my love".

I decided to explore SF during a couple of afternoons to see what the talent is like; I have to say, I thought it was quite grim to be honest. A few very young Venezuelans scattered with a few barbie doll like girls but mostly were rough and old. I might make an effort to go tonight or tomorrow night where hopefully it'll be better.

I tried La Celestina and Solitasparati.

Both agencies are reliable. The girls I got were hot and there was no bait-and-switch. I'd say the videos from la celestina and photos from solitasparati are quite accurate.

However, because the girls' faces are not shown, you can't tell whether the girls you want are pretty or not. In my case, both of the girls I chose have hot bodies, but their looks were not to my liking. So if you are a face guy, you might want to look elsewhere.

Receptionists at both agencies are efficient, especially the one at la celestina. Unfortunately, if you use a love motel, you have to book your room and send the room number to the receptionist two hours prior to the scheduled time, which means you'll be left alone in the room feeling bored for two hours. At solitasparati, you just tell the receptionist the address and the time of the date, and the girl will show up as scheduled without the two-hour window. Also, rates at solitasparati are generally cheaper, at around 300 mil per hour.

By the way, I reported to uber about the scam and got my money back. Thanks to everyone who gave me the advice.

Flying into bogotá tonight. Can anyone suggest a massage place I can visit on the morning. I'd love to get a massage and a bbj. I will be staying east of Santa fe. Where ever I go I will give a good write up in exchange for the info.

I decided to go to SF last night around 8 pm; two laps around the main blocks. There wasn't as many women as I thought it would be; during the second lap, I went with a mid-20's brunette, Valentina, for 20 minutes with oral without included for 60.000. Oral with good as was the sex. Facially pretty but once the clothes came off, her body was disappointing. She looked like she had a body of an overweight person who then lost weight; saggy skin, not remotely toned.

I enjoy going around SF, the outskirts can be a bit sketchy but the streets where the girls are is actually safe (for me anyway).

Would like to team up and go around finding chicas. Lmk if interested, more we have more safe and more fun.

It was my last day in BOG and I didn't have to think twice about what I needed to do before heading home. It might be just a month before I returned to South America, or maybe not until the end of the year. So, I thought I needed to get some poon before I headed home.

I spent too much time reading the reviews of the various "reservados" of Bogota on Foros Prepagos Colombia and they pretty much confirmed what I already knew. Quality sex was not what you find in those places, and the girls tend to want extra for everything that would be standard in other places. Kisses on the lips, BBBJ and simple kinks. I learned about during my first visit to Bogota about 5 years ago, when a mulata Venezoloana in a cheap casas wanted extra to suck her awesome tits, and more to eat her pussy and more money to kiss her above the shoulders. Etc. Poor quality service defined. That's one reason I got put off on Bogota in the past. But there were plenty of good "resenas" for the prepagos, which Bogota has an abundance of. Not as cheap as Bucaramanaga to be sure, but that's life in the big city, folks.

Lots of young chicks in Photoprepagos. But, I learned long ago that mature women are usually better at the job. Found an older woman, Marilsa, listed her age as 48 and had well over a dozen positive reviews on differnet forums. I sent her a Zap and she sent me a polite response instead of the usual auto generated response. She gave me the details of her service - 200 k an hour complete with anal, 150 without anal but oral natural to be sure. She didn't show her face yet, but did send photos of her nice looking lair of lust. The location was really nice looking (see photos) She requested a down payment sent to her before she disclosed her location, just a mimimum of 10 k. I normally wouldn't do that but it was what? Two bucks and a quarter. She indicated that she had a lot of clients and she needed to ensure that I was serious (or something to that effect) I had to pay her via Skype where her profile photo on her Skype account showed a pleasant looking but mature woman. Okay, I'll bite even if this is not how I do things. I guess she needed to feel secure that I wasn't f-ing around on the internet and wasting her time. Sent her the 10 k via Paypal and she sent me an address on Calle 64 A at Cr. 14. Made an appointment for noon the next day. The next morning, I sent her a zap to reconfirm our appointment at noon, she shot back a request to move it to 1:30. I said okay and when I was getting out of the shower at just past noon, she sent another zap asking if I could come at 1 o'clock straight up. I said yes, but I suddenly needed to hustle and was vexed about the two changes of appointment time. Then she sent me another zap asking me "Deseas lenceria. O ejecutiva?" This was the first time an escort asked me how I wanted her to be dressed, and I knew then I was dealing with someone with a professional sense of personal service. I chose the lingerie and caught a cab up to Chapineiro and arrived just a few minutes past one.

The edificio, called the Amoblados El Bosque, which was nicer than the rest of the neighborhood turned out to be a sort of short-term hotel. Not an obvious love hotel, but not an ordinary residence hotel either. I inquired at the reception office as directed and indicated which room I was going to. The woman on duty made a call upstairs to the suite number I had indicated and then asked me for 15 k. This was neither expected not is it unusual. As I read in other reviews, some hotels that host escorts or casual brothels ask for a small entry fee. I've incurred similar fees as well in Brazil, when a GP has a room for the day on a permanent basis. I paid the lady and she directed me to the "salita de espera" (waiting area) on the next floor. This was an open atrium type building where you can look down up to the higher floors. The place was quiet except for a young guy sitting next to me, making a video call and eventually busily walking around yacking to my annoyance. I pinged her on zap and told her I was waiting, and then I heard a woman calling me, I looked up in the atrium and saw a woman in lingerie two floors up waving at me. I took the elevator up and she greeted me at the door of her pleasure palace. She was pleasant looking, white with black hair cut in a jaw length bob. She seemed taller than she was in her very high platform heels and was wearing a red baby doll with thigh high hose. Ushered me in with a deep kiss and asked me for the balance. Paid her exact change and she directed me to take a shower though I'd just taken one. Bathroom was nice and large and the shower stall was huge. She stood there and watched me shower and handed me a towel (I always make a point of letting the watch me clean my crotch area thoroughly so they won't be shy about going down there). Got out and went to town on her. There was a large TV there in the room with a porn flick on. She was slow to get the the lingerie as she making a real porno show on the bed herself. Didn't hesitate to go down on me bareback from the get-go and even told me to make a video of it (which I did). Good girl. Talk about two "firsts" for me in Bogota. Once I got her undressed I could see a predicitable amount of baby damage. 48 years and a big ass. For some people reading this, a mature woman won't sound appealing. If that description sounds like your mom, then you are too young for this hobby. Seriously, if thatif that's the case, I got three words for you: find a girlfriend.

Mature women are typical better at sex (as with all other things, experience counts) and I could easily see why she has a significant clientle base. This is why escorts past their prime often go for a premium (a phenomenon more obvious in Brazil, whereas the expiration date on Colombianas seems to be quite short). She poured some lube on her palm and rubbed it all over her ample labia and between her butt cheeks, mounted me cowgirl and began sliding back and forth along my cock. I must say the only place I've experienced this in South America, was in Bogota and the last girl I did in Bogota before I left for home last December did the same. "Sliding" is more common in SE Asia and I'm aware that its found in oily massage parlors. I almost blew my nuts a few times, and had to make her stop because I really wanted to enjoy this a while. Finally I handed her the rubber and of course, she put it on Colombian style instead of rolling it on (I don't understand why that is so hard to do) and hopped on top of pop (papi). I was delighted to find that mature cooze was actually quite snug despite her broad hips and baby damage on the exterior (I will never cease to be amazed how often that big women can have the tightest cooze). She turned around let me see that big ass of hers for awhile and I watched some young hottie getting pounded doggie on the TV until I blew my nuts. I had plenty of time left in the hour, and to her credit she spent the rest of it snuggling for some pillow talk. Mature esorts or those with kids tend to be more interested in me, my plans when they find out I'm retired and looking to settle offshore. Women like these are always looking for an exit from the profession into something more comfortable. I asked her if she shared this room and she said no but acknwoleged that other prepagos work out of this building. To her credit she didn't watch the clock, but I typically make a point of getting dressed and leaving before I wear out my welcome. She was adamant I come back and visit her when I come back to Bogota, which I fully plan to do, but next time I want to drill that big ass since she seems oriented towards the porn experience.

I asked her where a good cafe was nearby as I wanted my usual cup of coffee after the program is complete. She directed me around the corner and once outside I found the place, an empty cafe on just plain old CL. 64 directly across from an obvious reservado at #14-66. The guy out front was agressively trying to direct any men walking past into the place and even motorists who were cruising by slowly. I drank my cup of cafe tinto (1. 8 k, that's 40 cents for a coffee from an espresso machine) and watched the guy at work. One guy walked in and the doorman rang a LOUD bell inside the house which I could hear all the way across the street over the traffic. Must have been an annoyingly loud call to get your ass up and get ready for the presentation, bitches. Anyways, someone could ad that to the map, unknown brothel at CL 64 #14-66. I left the cafe but didn't ask the doorman about prices since I'd just blown my nuts and I don't the doorman was ready to take no for an answer. Walked back towards my AirBnb which was a long walk but I was feeling like one and wanted to take in more of Bogota before I flew out at midnight. This was like my fourth or fifth trip to Bogota, and I enjoyed this one the best, because I stayed down in La Macarena which was a great neighborhood and wished I had visited it earlier. Along the way I was offered various flyers for reservados, guys trying to take me to some place upstairs, and even a semi-attractive woman with purple hair was hollering "chicas, chicas, chicas" at males passing by. Walking in Chapinero during the daytime, on the calles just either side of Avenida Caracas you will be offered or enticed into plenty of places of pleasure. You won't have to look far.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2816430]I decided to go to SF last night around 8 pm; two laps around the main blocks. There wasn't as many women as I thought it would be; during the second lap, I went with a mid-20's brunette, Valentina, for 20 minutes with oral without included for 60.000. Oral with good as was the sex. Facially pretty but once the clothes came off, her body was disappointing. She looked like she had a body of an overweight person who then lost weight; saggy skin, not remotely toned.

I enjoy going around SF, the outskirts can be a bit sketchy but the streets where the girls are is actually safe (for me anyway).[/QUOTE]So the right price is 40 + 20 BBBJ. A few hunicorns charged me exactly that. Clubs max 120 mill with room.

I'm planing to check those hotels around for longer sessions. Nothing too fancy. It's worth when they have a good attitude and like to talk. How much shall I offer for a night?

[QUOTE=BarrioSpinners;2816875]I'm planing to check those hotels around for longer sessions. Nothing too fancy. It's worth when they have a good attitude and like to talk. How much shall I offer for a night?[/QUOTE]You should offer the normal price. Try not to get ripped-off.

At the Normandia, "total del noche" is 40 K pesos for you and 1 girl. Then it is 10 K pesos extra for each additional girl. Another place on the other side of the block will charge 50 K for you and the girl, and 10 K extra for each additional girl.

Any recs on places to stay or where will be ok with guests near airport? Not sure if it's worth heading into Santa Fe or Chapinero because of time constraints.

[QUOTE=BarrioSpinners;2816875]How much shall I offer for a night?[/QUOTE]100-150 K pesos.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2817014]100-150 K pesos.[/QUOTE]Wow. Those are rock bottom prices. Obviously, not all girls will accept those prices, but some will. Wondering the percentage.

I like Mr E's info. I use his info in my equation. He gives rock bottom prices. But you have to read the fine print.

I guess that's why girls love me when I give 100 K per hour and 200 K for 3 hours (PSE included). My regular (who's popular) probably will accept 300 K, but not sure how low she will go.

[QUOTE=Baller0696;2817010]Any recs on places to stay or where will be ok with guests near airport? Not sure if it's worth heading into Santa Fe or Chapinero because of time constraints.[/QUOTE]SF is so close like 20-30 minutes off rush hour. Depending on when it could be fantastic.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2816997]You should offer the normal price. Try not to get ripped-off.

At the Normandia, "total del noche" is 40 K pesos for you and 1 girl. Then it is 10 K pesos extra for each additional girl. Another place on the other side of the block will charge 50 K for you and the girl, and 10 K extra for each additional girl.[/QUOTE]"Toda la noche" means "all night". Some confusion here as the 40 K pesos is a low price for a half hour appointment in the cheapest casas. And it translates to $9 US more or less.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2817267]"Toda la noche" means "all night". Some confusion here as the 40 K pesos is a low price for a half hour appointment in the cheapest casas. And it translates to $9 US more or less.[/QUOTE]Prices are current as of yesterday. Normally I pay 50 K, for 2 girls. Although I have never spent the entire night till morning.

Wait. I guess you meant a casa with the girl included. I meant renting just the room at the Normandia. You gotta pay for the girl on your own. I misinterpreted the original poster's question.

Normandia is just a motel. You have to bring your own girls. Every place charges extra for each additional girl. I normally don't do media (30 minutes). Although sometimes the girl will promise media, but it's actually "rato" (15-20 minutes); you find that out when the knock comes at the 12 minute mark. My guess is that rato should be between 6K-15K. An hour should be between 20 K-30 K. I haven't explored for a long while. I normally go to the same places.

For rato, does the girl pay for the room? I think it's negotiable. I think some do, but they will always ask the tourist to pay. For the hour, since it's at least 20K, they will definitely ask you to pay.

[QUOTE=GreenBud;2817424]Prices are current as of yesterday. Normally I pay 50 K, for 2 girls. Although I have never spent the entire night till morning.

Wait. I guess you meant a casa with the girl included. I meant renting just the room at the Normandia. You gotta pay for the girl on your own. I misinterpreted the original poster's question.

Normandia is just a motel. You have to bring your own girls. Every place charges extra for each additional girl. I normally don't do media (30 minutes). Although sometimes the girl will promise media, but it's actually "rato" (15-20 minutes); you find that out when the knock comes at the 12 minute mark. My guess is that rato should be between 6K-15K. An hour should be between 20 K-30 K. I haven't explored for a long while. I normally go to the same places.

For rato, does the girl pay for the room? I think it's negotiable. I think some do, but they will always ask the tourist to pay. For the hour, since it's at least 20K, they will definitely ask you to pay.[/QUOTE]OK. Got it now. Yep, room price versus casa price for chica.

I saw a couple YouTube vids and the girls seem pretty decent. Anyone with recent experience?

Taking my first trip to Bogota. Read through these posts for a few months to prep, but if anyone has any recommendations or wants to meet up when I'm down there, let me know!

In Salitre, not a good area, A 19 yr old student in the military college resisted 2 robbers on a moto that tried to grab his backpack. He resisted because he had some Euros in his bag. The Robbers shot him in the face and he died on the way to the hospital. I have been telling my girl to mace and use her stun gun if attacked again but better just surrender what they want and live unless you feel they are going to kill you anyway, [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]'.

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My hotel was just crawling with my colleagues on this latest trip so instead of trying to get a girl up to my room I just consulted google maps and ducked into random massage parlors that showed up with a search of "masajes eroticos. ".

Mizuki Normandia:

Mizuki Normandia: Just NE of Av. Carr 70 and el Dorado. The place looks like a business that hasn't opened yet and there are no signs outside. Look for the address and hit the door bell on the far left of the white gate. Inside is a small lobby and waiting room. I got there early in the day and only two chicas were there. Neither were anything special, I went for the younger one. She said she was pretty new to the game and I believed her. She gave a decent BBBJ but didn't like to kiss until I offered her and additional 100 p on top the of the 120 p to the house. She warmed up over time and gave a decent CFS. I probably could have offered less but I wasn't in the mood for negotiation.

Masajes Eroticos en Bogota will show up very close to Mizuki. As far as I could tell it is closed and another business is in its place.

Massage Envy Spa Bogota is also nearby. The actual name is Envy Spa when you walk up to it. It is on a residential street and nothing gives it away except a hand written sign in the small courtyard. Ring the bell and someone comes out to open the gate. It seems like this spa likes to double as, or attempts to appear to be, a legit spa so that it doesn't draw too much attention. When the older, busty lady closed the door behind us she immediately lowered the zipper on her therapist looking uniform so I could see the huge rack she had hidden inside. She was probably late 40's and definitely heavier than most would like, but she really gave a great massage. I loved her playfulness and those tits were still in great shape. I didn't have sex with her because I was having too much fun sliding around that oily body. For Bogota the place is really expensive at 280 p for the hour.

Abejitas: I mentioned this recently to a poster who was about to visit the area. It's at the intersection of Av. NQS and el Dorado. The older lady who runs the place is probably retired from the profession and she exudes experience. I had to wait a bit as the place was busy but some very nice looking girls were walking around there. I ended up with a small younger one with a really pretty face. Her body was tight but not athletic and her face was really pretty. She seemed like she wanted to please but definitely had limits, no BBBJ and no kissing, CFS. Otherwise she played along with a convincing smile and at 190 p I felt it's worth a return if I can't get an indie to my hotel. I did hear one guy slapping against his hips against some girl's backside for about 10 minutes while I was waiting. Boy did she take a pounding. The facility is clean and it has showers. Worth a return but traffic makes it hard to get to.

Hey guys, I wanted to share with y'all here an incident that took place this past weekend. A fellow mongerer that I met at the hotel I was staying at and I decided to hit up the Santa Fe area late at night. When we got out of our Uber he decided he wanted to give the street level chicas a try instead. I warned him about it being late but he was mesmerized by a few of the beauties that were available that night. Right around the corner from Atom's we found a true cutie: face, body and personality. She was clean, not strung-out, and was very pliant and patient. We decided to take her for a walk in finding one for me. She quickly suggested I hook up with one of her friends. As I was trying to make up my mind one of her hottie friends shows up. She was blonde, had green eyes, and an amazing body something taken straight out of a college girl playboy shoot. They agreed to come back to our place for a sum of 150 K COP each from like 4 am until mid-day or so. I bought 2 six packs of beer and one of them got the car with her Didi app. Since my friend is a really big guy he got to sit in the front seat leaving me in the back seat with both of these beauties. I had one in each arm and started making out with both of them, one at a time. My friend's chica was rubbing her hand on my Johnson as we DFK. She then proceeded to unzip my pants and directly stroke my boy. Since we were not staying far we arrived at the place pronto. My room had two beds so we agreed on all being in my room and then we would be swapping partners.

Everything seemed to be going fine so far until both girls changed from their innocent girl demeanor to that of hardcore pros. My girl was still warming up to me so the chemistry wasn't there the same way it was towards my friend's chica. We almost switched on the spot. They both wanted us to play a game of dare with them. That they would have us do things on them and then we would ask them to do things on us. Stuff like drinking beer off of their nipples, bellies, boxes and them off of our peckers. I don't know why but something was telling me not to pursue. At that moment stories I had watched on YouTube about American tourists getting drugged by Tinder dates came to mind. I was under the impression that at any time I was going to black out and wake up being another victim of such tactics. When they noticed I wasn't going along with the game my friend's chica approached me to feed me beer from her mouth. I refused. My big head started taking over and wanted to end things and send them on their way. However, my friend had started getting into the groove with his chica and wanted to do the deed. I continued with mine but I told her that I would not be drinking anymore beer. I went and got an unopened bottle of water from the fridge and decided to stay sober instead. She agreed and even insisted I only drink from the bottle of water I was holding and started to do oral on me with the condom on.

We dimmed the lights and I started to pound my girl. Her body was amazing and once she had warmed up to me she didn't want us to swap partners afterwards. I noticed my friend was struggling and that he wasn't feeling well. He was sounding like he was dizzy and wasn't being coherent. I thought for a moment that maybe he had chucked his last beer too fast but then again, this is a huge guy. Not even him chugging a 6 pack would have had such an effect on him. I busted my nut despite wanting to continue and got up to get dressed. My friend was in some kind of stupor between being awake and asleep at the same time. This was when I knew for sure that I had to get them out of our place really pronto. I told him it was best we pay them to leave and not risk having them stick around any longer. I was on the edge between not knowing if I was going to be next and if so what was to be of us. He was in and out but didn't want them to leave. I insisted that we pay and send them on their way as quickly as possible. So, we did. Unfortunately, my friend's chica took off with his Colombian cell phone and 80 K COP. I did not see when she did this as she was too slick. My friend then started to throw up like crazy outside on the hallway and he kept asking me what was going on. I told him that his girl most likely tried to get him drugged. Luckily, there is a pharmacy that's open 24 hours nearby and I took him there. They gave him some pills along with some drops to be added to water and for him to drink a lot of SueroX / Pedialite throughout the day. Luckily, by the end of the day he was fully recovered.

First of all, don't take chicas from the Santa Fe streets back to your place. If you're brave enough to walk those streets during the day make sure you only see the chica in the hotel she is standing at downstairs or right outside. This was a huge lesson learned. I'm not sure what to say about me. Maybe I got lucky in being able to dodge this bullet. Why would my chica agree I only drink from the water bottle I was holding and not insist I continue drinking beer with them instead? If she was in on it, which she most likely was, then why didn't she give me to drink from the same spiked beer my friend was given? She had plenty of opportunities to have done the same to me, yet it didn't happen. In any event, I'm grateful it didn't and that I was able to look after my friend to make sure nothing worse happened. Otherwise, this story would've had a different ending. Stay safe and monger on!

I have spent more than 10 months total in Bogota, seeing about 3-4 chicas per week, and have never brought a pro to my hotel or apartment. After I figured out how to use love motels, I have no desire to deal with the risk and hassle of hosting at my place.

Using a love motel instead of bringing a chica to your hotel or apartment makes a scopolamine attack very unlikely. Anecdotally, I don't remember ever hearing of a drugging incident at a love motel on any Colombia forum.

There are two main reasons for the increase in safety.

- Your main phone, passport, banking apps, debit cards, crypto wallets, watches, sunglasses, and laptops are all safely stored in your hotel.

- Security is much tighter at love motels than normal hotels. The employees actively monitor the hallway cameras so if your chica tries to leave unannounced, they will immediately call your room and come check on you if you don't answer. Getting into a love motel is just as difficult; her accomplices would not be able to enter to help her rob you or move you to another location.

To use a love motel, you can either arrive with the chica and check in together or you can arrive first and text her the room number. There are love motel apps (e. G. MotelNow) but I don't think a reservation is necessary unless you are going at peak time like Saturday night or a holiday.

There are many love motels in Chapinero near Calle 63 and Caracas. Most appear to be higher end and only a few of them are listed in google maps. I recommend Motel Love 62 and Z Motel, both of which are in google maps. The area seems safe to walk around and the streets are never empty because every love motel has an employee standing out front.

There are simpler rooms ("sencilla") as well as more expensive rooms with extras like a sauna or jacuzzi. At higher end love motels with nice facilities, Sencilla usually costs 60 mil-75 mil for four hours. A larger room with a jacuzzi should be about 110 mil-140 mil for four hours. There will be an additional charge of about 40 mil to bring in more than one chica. You can stay overnight for about 50 mil more but the check in / out times are different during the week vs weekends.

There are cheaper love motels in the same neighborhood but I don't think the 20 mil you save is worth the drop in quality and increased likelihood that the hot water, lights, Wi-Fi, or TV isn't working. The budget alternative to a nice love motel is to get a room at Santa Fe Suites for the night for 60 mil; security there is similar to a love motel.

When you arrive at the love motel, walk into the reception area and say "sencilla por favor" or "con jacuzzi". They may ask "efectivo o con tarjeta? Doesn't matter but cash / efectivo is probably easier. You pay when you arrive in the room, not in reception. I have never had any issues with getting change so I always pay cash.

The next bit of Spanish you'll need is when reception walks you to the elevator and tells you which floor to go to.

Segundo = second floor.

Tercero = third floor.

Cuarto = fourth floor.

Quinto = fifth floor.

Sexto = sixth floor.

They generally try to keep things discreet and avoid clients running into each other or having to awkwardly share the elevator so they get you into a room ASAP. Some motels have signs asking you to take the stairs down so you don't run into couples taking the elevator up.

An employee will meet you when you step out of the elevator. She will probably ask "sencilla o con jacuzzi?" again and walk you to the room. She will ask "algo tomar? Do you want anything to drink? Pay her the cash and in a few minutes she'll bring your change, receipt, and remote controls for the TV.

Every room has a dumb waiter type of thing so you can pass things in and out of the room without getting dressed and opening the door. She'll put your change, drinks, etc in there.

Your chica needs a valid ID. Venezuelan IDs have not been a problem. When she arrives, reception might call the room to check that you're expecting a chica. Otherwise she'll just knock on your door after they let her up.

Once you're in the room, it is easy to have food, drinks, condoms, etc delivered to you. The motel will have a sex shop, drinks, and might be affiliated with a restaurant or you can just use Rappi. Include your room number when you order something for delivery and the employees will bring it up to the room. The TV usually has some porn channels as well as YouTube for music. Videos of long DJ sets are a good way to avoid having to keep picking new music during the session.

When she is ready to leave, press zero on the room phone to call reception and tell them she is leaving by saying "buenas tardes, mi novia va a salir". Then she can leave no problem. If you forget to call reception, they will get worried and immediately call you so remember to announce that she's leaving before she opens the room door.

Discretion. Learn from my mistakes!

Unless she's an age-appropriate non-pro, just let her leave solo a minute or two before you, don't walk her out or leave with her. Most love motel customers are just normal couples who do not want to be sharing elevators and beds with pros and mongers. The employees expect your help maintaining the level of discretion they're aiming for. If a normie couple complains about you, the employees might be rude to you and especially to your chica when you return. Just go with the flow on discretion and everyone will be happy. To be clear, Colombian men commonly meet pros in love motels, they just enter and leave separately.

Jacuzzi rooms:

There's a specific procedure for using the jacuzzi. About 30 minutes before you want to get in, press zero to call reception and say "vamos a usar el jacuzzi". They will start the water flowing. You need to use the hot and cold faucets to set the water temperature as it fills. Once the tub is full enough, the jets should start automatically. There are generally no controls or options other than the faucets; the jets will eventually stop and the jacuzzi will be drained after you leave.

Post if you have additional helpful info or other love motels to recommend (especially in the north or nearer to Santa Fe) and I'll update this report.

[QUOTE=JackEnBogo;2818447]I have spent more than 10 months total in Bogota, seeing about 3-4 chicas per week, and have never brought a pro to my hotel or apartment. After I figured out how to use love motels, I have no desire to deal with the risk and hassle of hosting at my place.

Using a love motel instead of bringing a chica to your hotel or apartment makes a scopolamine attack very unlikely. Anecdotally, I don't remember ever hearing of a drugging incident at a love motel on any Colombia forum.

Edited-- this a long post....

.[/QUOTE]I used to go to Amartes Suite on Calle 62 and Carracas -- They have themed rooms, It was very nice-- Also Motel Dandy around the corner-- very nice rooms with a modern chic.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/moteldandy/[/URL] there were / are 10+ motels in this area. You can pay for 2-4+ hours if you like.

Have fun.

Why do some people put mil while other put k?

[QUOTE=TigerSong;2818574]Why do some people put mil while other put k?[/QUOTE]"mil" in Spanish is 1000.

1000 is used like 1 k in English.

Hi guys,

Currently visiting Bogota. My hotel is in the Saltire area. Where should I go for hookup? I am looking for a safe and easy place to get a girl. Also what's the price?

Thanks!

Hi guys,

Currently in the saltire area. I am looking for a safe and easy place where I can get girls. Also what's the price? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Stephen23;2818890]Hi guys,

Currently in the saltire area. I am looking for a safe and easy place where I can get girls. Also what's the price? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I can't resist - "RTFF Bro."

Even if you don't contribute please at least tell us you have read the ROD and a few pages.

Don't you need your passport to check into a love motel? If not, do they require any other form of ID?

[QUOTE=JackEnBogo;2818447]

- Your main phone, passport, banking apps, debit cards, crypto wallets, watches, sunglasses, and laptops are all safely stored in your hotel.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Routard;2567366]Lots of places have disapeared due to lockdowns, Lalo, El Padrino, Olimpo, Lewinski, Juan pablo Zhivago, Lancaster to name a few of them. But as we are still not back to normal its too early to try to update everything.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know if Lewinski, El Podrinos, and Porky's have all shut down?

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2819069]Don't you need your passport to check into a love motel? If not, do they require any other form of ID?[/QUOTE]The only love motel that I'm aware of that requires ID from the guy is Amarte Suites in Chapinero. That motel also writes down the info from both of your IDs (like a normal hotel does) which some chicas may not like. A state drivers license from the US is accepted, I don't know if a photo of a passport would be OK.

Santa Fe Suite, which is a hotel with checkout at 3 pm the next day, not a love motel, requires ID from both you and the chica. A US state drivers license is accepted.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2818544]I used to go to Amartes Suite on Calle 62 and Carracas -- They have themed rooms, It was very nice-- Also Motel Dandy around the corner-- very nice rooms with a modern chic.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/moteldandy/[/URL] there were / are 10+ motels in this area. You can pay for 2-4+ hours if you like.

Have fun.[/QUOTE]Thanks Woodman, I forgot about Motel Dandy. Jardin Real, in the same neighborhood, is also nice.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2819069]Don't you need your passport to check into a love motel? If not, do they require any other form of ID?[/QUOTE]Actually I never showed ID at Amartes Suites but a photocopy of your passport should work.

[QUOTE=Globalnomad5;2819069]Don't you need your passport to check into a love motel? If not, do they require any other form of ID?[/QUOTE]Actually I never showed ID at Amartes Suites but a photocopy of your passport should work.

[URL]https://amartesuite.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Stephen23;2818890]Hi guys,

Currently in the saltire area. I am looking for a safe and easy place where I can get girls. Also what's the price? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Read this and look for other posts--

[QUOTE=PineTree;2818150]My hotel was just crawling with my colleagues on this latest trip so instead of trying to get a girl up to my room I just consulted google maps and ducked into random massage parlors that showed up with a search of "masajes eroticos. ".

Mizuki Normandia:

Mizuki Normandia: Just NE of Av. Carr 70 and el Dorado. The place looks like a business that hasn't opened yet and there are no signs outside. Look for the address and hit the door bell on the far left of the white gate. Inside is a small lobby and waiting room. I got there early in the day and only two chicas were there. Neither were anything special, I went for the younger one. She said she was pretty new to the game and I believed her. She gave a decent BBBJ but didn't like to kiss until I offered her and additional 100 p on top the of the 120 p to the house. She warmed up over time and gave a decent CFS. I probably could have offered less but I wasn't in the mood for negotiation.

Masajes Eroticos en Bogota will show up very close to Mizuki. As far as I could tell it is closed and another business is in its place.

Massage Envy Spa Bogota is also nearby. The actual name is Envy Spa when you walk up to it. It is on a residential street and nothing gives it away except a hand written sign in the small courtyard. Ring the bell and someone comes out to open the gate. It seems like this spa likes to double as, or attempts to appear to be, a legit spa so that it doesn't draw too much attention. When the older, busty lady closed the door behind us she immediately lowered the zipper on her therapist looking uniform so I could see the huge rack she had hidden inside. She was probably late 40's and definitely heavier than most would like, but she really gave a great massage. I loved her playfulness and those tits were still in great shape. I didn't have sex with her because I was having too much fun sliding around that oily body. For Bogota the place is really expensive at 280 p for the hour.

Abejitas: I mentioned this recently to a poster who was about to visit the area. It's at the intersection of Av. NQS and el Dorado. The older lady who runs the place is probably retired from the profession and she exudes experience. I had to wait a bit as the place was busy but some very nice looking girls were walking around there. I ended up with a small younger one with a really pretty face. Her body was tight but not athletic and her face was really pretty. She seemed like she wanted to please but definitely had limits, no BBBJ and no kissing, CFS. Otherwise she played along with a convincing smile and at 190 p I felt it's worth a return if I can't get an indie to my hotel. I did hear one guy slapping against his hips against some girl's backside for about 10 minutes while I was waiting. Boy did she take a pounding. The facility is clean and it has showers. Worth a return but traffic makes it hard to get to.[/QUOTE].

Curious, I'll be arriving into el dorado tonight and if anyone has used the combio near the baggage carousel recently why what exchange rate are they at?

Anyone with actual info here? How it's set up? Prices? Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2819717]Anyone with actual info here? How it's set up? Prices? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I actually have been in contact with Sangnyc--IN the interest of safety I am commenting here.

I think guys should stay away from this area in 5 de Mayo barrio-- Never heard anything good about it. Danger Danger.

First time to Colombia and travelling to Bogota June 14th - 18th.

If anybody will be in town and looking for a co-pilot drop me a PM. I'm 41, laid back and have mongered all over the globe (Mexico, Thailand, Germany FKKs, Italy, Amsterdam, London, UAE, Japan, Greece, Spain, etc.). Columbia's been on my list first for awhile and finally getting a chance to partake. I've found tons of useful information on this thread ranging from several years back to present -- so thanks to the contributors for that.

Looking forward to sharing details from the trip.

[QUOTE=BoneFish022;2820165]First time to Colombia and travelling to Bogota June 14th - 18th.

If anybody will be in town and looking for a co-pilot drop me a PM. I'm 41, laid back and have mongered all over the globe (Mexico, Thailand, Germany FKKs, Italy, Amsterdam, London, UAE, Japan, Greece, Spain, etc.). Columbia's been on my list first for awhile and finally getting a chance to partake. I've found tons of useful information on this thread ranging from several years back to present -- so thanks to the contributors for that.

Looking forward to sharing details from the trip.[/QUOTE]I am with another seasoned monger until 15th. So we may have a day overlap. PM me if you want to meet up for coffee or something. We usually tear down casas in Chapinero most of the day and do bus rides in to Santa fe for a couple of hours.

Sometimes when I'm a bit high.

The way they line-up -- Just standing there flirting, I feel like I'm in Copola's Dracula or that Lana Del Rey video-- See Links / photos.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CIAkk-YENU[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CIAkk-YENU[/URL]

Coming soon the Monday vs Wednesday SF Chica score Report.

Not much as been written about the south other than Santa Fe strolls.

There are a whole bunch of clubs and casas marked out in primer de mayo area. Not much has been written about experiences in that place.

The overall area is south of Kennedy and near centro commercial plaza de las Americas. I know one of the long term residents of the thread, Frisky Frank made plans to check it out and contribute his insights and explorations. Wondering if anyone has updates or comments.

The street and club scene around 7 augusto (calle 67) is died out and barely there. Chapinero is primarily casa heaven.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2819717]Anyone with actual info here? How it's set up? Prices? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]An ISG member and I went down to the Primer de Mayo area and went to Angelo's. It's like going to Santa Fe and starting at La Piscina. IOW, it is the most upscale club in a bad neighborhood and they charge upscale prices. The other clubs had MUCH cheaper prices, and the competition was a lot less than Santa Fe. I think we went on a Friday night and often we were the only guys in a club. Still, I recall the prices we were quoted were as high if not higher than Santa Fe. The guys outside of the clubs were aggressive, maybe even more so than Santa Fe, but it was a touch scarier just because there were not as many people around. Maybe if I negotiated hard I could have gotten prices down, but I would have left my friend alone and I did not want to do that. Also, like most of the Santa Fe clubs I usually see only up to two women at most that I am interested in.

I cannot point to any one reason not to go to that area. I just did not feel as safe or comfortable there as in Santa Fe. There just seemed to be a lot of desperation and aggression in Primer de Mayo.

I will add one tidbit. There was one girl from SA I did not hook up but was interested in. I set her up with a friend of mine. I told him not to give her any money, but he did anyway and got ripped off.

One of the first things my gal asked her is where she was from, and my gal told me this other woman lived in a bad neighborhood. I did not get what she said at the time, but what she was saying is that the other woman, though beautiful, was lower class and was likely to engage in the lower class behaviors that she did. This may sound snobby, but this is how Colombians judge each other.

I hate to say Santa Fe is classy but it is a step up from Primer de Mayo. I do not know that there are more drugging's and robberies there than SF but I would expect that to be the case.

Anyone have recommendations for the best massage parlors with the hottest girls? I'm OK with paying more if it means the girls are actually hotter there. Only have a short while left in Colombia so planning on going through the list online I never bothered with before.

[URL]https://escortsbogota.co/portfolio/maria-fernanda/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortsdiamond.co/mariana3/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.encountersvip.com/escorts/camila21[/URL]

[URL]https://www.escortsdiamond.co/sara3/[/URL]

This girl doesn't even look Colombian. Is this a fake profile? I have heard some people trying girls from eroticas Bogota so I felt this website can be somewhat trusted but after seeing this profile I'm not so sure. I'd appreciate if some brother can advice something on this. I have shared the link for you to see if this girl seems genuine. They say in her nationality too that she's Colombian which I find hard to believe because of her really white skin tone. Not sure if they have heavily edited the pic to make her look really white. Her feature also doesn't seem very Colombian.Appreciate any advice that I can get on this. I'm attaching the pic from the website for reference as well. Thanks.

[URL]https://eroticasbogota.com/modelo/zara/[/URL]

[QUOTE=OldJack;2820813]This girl doesn't even look Colombian. Is this a fake profile? I have heard some people trying girls from eroticas Bogota so I felt this website can be somewhat trusted but after seeing this profile I'm not so sure. I'd appreciate if some brother can advice something on this. I have shared the link for you to see if this girl seems genuine. They say in her nationality too that she's Colombian which I find hard to believe because of her really white skin tone. Not sure if they have heavily edited the pic to make her look really white. Her feature also doesn't seem very Colombian.Appreciate any advice that I can get on this. I'm attaching the pic from the website for reference as well. Thanks.

[URL]https://eroticasbogota.com/modelo/zara/[/URL][/QUOTE]No idea. However, white skin is not uncommon in Bogota.

[QUOTE=OldJack;2820813]This girl doesn't even look Colombian. Is this a fake profile? I have heard some people trying girls from eroticas Bogota so I felt this website can be somewhat trusted but after seeing this profile I'm not so sure. I'd appreciate if some brother can advice something on this. I have shared the link for you to see if this girl seems genuine. They say in her nationality too that she's Colombian which I find hard to believe because of her really white skin tone. Not sure if they have heavily edited the pic to make her look really white. Her feature also doesn't seem very Colombian.Appreciate any advice that I can get on this. I'm attaching the pic from the website for reference as well. Thanks.

[URL]https://eroticasbogota.com/modelo/zara/[/URL][/QUOTE]I think it's just the usual foul play that online escorts / brothels do when they touch up their photos. I'm planning on using Eroticas for the first time with Danna. She looks incredible on the site too, but I always anticipate some changes IRL.

[QUOTE=OldJack;2820813]This girl doesn't even look Colombian. Is this a fake profile? I have heard some people trying girls from eroticas Bogota so I felt this website can be somewhat trusted but after seeing this profile I'm not so sure. I'd appreciate if some brother can advice something on this. I have shared the link for you to see if this girl seems genuine. They say in her nationality too that she's Colombian which I find hard to believe because of her really white skin tone. Not sure if they have heavily edited the pic to make her look really white. Her feature also doesn't seem very Colombian.Appreciate any advice that I can get on this. I'm attaching the pic from the website for reference as well. Thanks.

[URL]https://eroticasbogota.com/modelo/zara/[/URL][/QUOTE]I can tell you that Colombianas come in all shapes, sizes, and skin tones. I can also tell you this agency uses real photos. I've used them several times and every time, they met or exceeded my expectations. Highly recommended. I actually ended up in a long term relationship with a girl from here for over a year. Needless to say, she no longer works there (or anywhere providing services). Report back!

[QUOTE=OldJack;2820813]This girl doesn't even look Colombian. Is this a fake profile? I have heard some people trying girls from eroticas Bogota so I felt this website can be somewhat trusted but after seeing this profile I'm not so sure. I'd appreciate if some brother can advice something on this. I have shared the link for you to see if this girl seems genuine. They say in her nationality too that she's Colombian which I find hard to believe because of her really white skin tone. Not sure if they have heavily edited the pic to make her look really white. Her feature also doesn't seem very Colombian.Appreciate any advice that I can get on this. I'm attaching the pic from the website for reference as well. Thanks.

[URL]https://eroticasbogota.com/modelo/zara/[/URL][/QUOTE]Guess you have not been in Colombia. Lots of European looking people, natural blonds, etc. A minority, yes, but still lots that look European or whatever.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2821076]Guess you have not been in Colombia. Lots of European looking people, natural blonds, etc. A minority, yes, but still lots that look European or whatever.[/QUOTE]My ex-girlfriend is from Cartagena but lives in Bogota. Once I was commenting about her hair color. She said it is her natural hair color and that she is as white as snow and always have been. She does not like her dad because he is racist. She has a mixed kid.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2821076]Guess you have not been in Colombia. Lots of European looking people, natural blonds, etc. A minority, yes, but still lots that look European or whatever.[/QUOTE]I actually am a dealer in these magazines--SEE att.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2821076]Guess you have not been in Colombia. Lots of European looking people, natural blonds, etc. A minority, yes, but still lots that look European or whatever.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2821076]Guess you have not been in Colombia. Lots of European looking people, natural blonds, etc. A minority, yes, but still lots that look European or whatever.[/QUOTE]All these covers are Colombian models-I actually am a dealer in these magazines--SEE att.

Hi guys,

I'm going to Bogota in July to have some fun, I still don't know if I should get an Airbnb or hotel room, bring the girl to my place or go to her place, I found so many cute girls on photoprepagos, any advice guys thanks.

[QUOTE=TaderHead;2821058]I can tell you that Colombianas come in all shapes, sizes, and skin tones. I can also tell you this agency uses real photos. I've used them several times and every time, they met or exceeded my expectations. Highly recommended. I actually ended up in a long term relationship with a girl from here for over a year. Needless to say, she no longer works there (or anywhere providing services). Report back![/QUOTE]Aside from standard precautions, is Eroticas legit to have straight to own hotel room? I know there are love motels, but 1st time there and I'm not familiar plus I'd like not another charge when I have a room. I'd lock valuables in a safe, its a smaller boutique "nice" hotel in Chapinero. They don't have an explicit guest policy, but I'd tip door people early in my stay & appear like I'm in Bogota for work. Also will tell them to have the girl dress conservatively.

Is it possible to take them out off hours, or use them socially? I notice they post schedules which isn't all day so I'm hoping if I have a great session with a 9,or 10 that speaks English then it'd be fun to bring a hot date to a nice dinner so I'm not eating alone. Maybe even go out for nightlife in Chapinero as a tour guide with benefits just the 1st night. Food, drinks, taxi for her is in my budget but if the escort hourly rate meter is running, unless I can negotiate it lower then I'd pass.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2821386]Aside from standard precautions, is Eroticas legit to have straight to own hotel room? I know there are love motels, but 1st time there and I'm not familiar plus I'd like not another charge when I have a room. I'd lock valuables in a safe, its a smaller boutique "nice" hotel in Chapinero. They don't have an explicit guest policy, but I'd tip door people early in my stay & appear like I'm in Bogota for work. Also will tell them to have the girl dress conservatively.[/QUOTE]I would guess there's a pretty low risk of Eroticas chicas stealing or doing something to you. I think I know which boutique hotel you're talking about; it's all normal couples and youngish travelers. You won't see anyone else bringing pros in FYI. You'll be very close to the love motel neighborhood. It's fun to get a nice room with a sex chair, play the music as loud as you want, and keep your options open with civilians at your hotel.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2821386]Is it possible to take them out off hours, or use them socially? I notice they post schedules which isn't all day so I'm hoping if I have a great session with a 9,or 10 that speaks English then it'd be fun to bring a hot date to a nice dinner so I'm not eating alone. Maybe even go out for nightlife in Chapinero as a tour guide with benefits just the 1st night. Food, drinks, taxi for her is in my budget but if the escort hourly rate meter is running, unless I can negotiate it lower then I'd pass.[/QUOTE]I agree with other posters positive comments about the agency and photos but the ages and English ability listed on the website are not reliable. If you want an English speaking chica I would stick with the few "Ingles fluido" chicas or ask about your language options when you're booking the appointment.

You'd need to have serious game or luck to talk her into going out with you after your appointment the first night. Extending the cita is also putting her into a complicated situation with the agency if you don't want to pay her full rate. It seems unrealistic for the first night, I recommend finding a chica you connect with and then trying a longer date with her another night.

Hello all, doing a tour of Colombia in June to get a feel for the place and see if I might want to spend more time there next year. I have experience mongering in SEA, Tijuana, and a couple other places. Excited to see how Colombia stacks up. Looking forward to trying the agencies, independents, spas and clubs. I'm headed to Bogota later this week, then Cartagena, and finally Medellin. I'll be staying at the Hotel Estelar Parque de la 93 for my time in Bogota, which from some of my prior research seems to be guest friendly and in a nice area.

That's all for now- I've lurked this forum for quite a while and absorbed a lot of the info here, so thank you, and hopefully I can contribute back with some of my own experiences shortly.

[QUOTE=TripCyclone;2821755]Hello all, doing a tour of Colombia in June to get a feel for the place and see if I might want to spend more time there next year. I have experience mongering in SEA, Tijuana, and a couple other places. Excited to see how Colombia stacks up. Looking forward to trying the agencies, independents, spas and clubs. I'm headed to Bogota later this week, then Cartagena, and finally Medellin. I'll be staying at the Hotel Estelar Parque de la 93 for my time in Bogota, which from some of my prior research seems to be guest friendly and in a nice area.

That's all for now- I've lurked this forum for quite a while and absorbed a lot of the info here, so thank you, and hopefully I can contribute back with some of my own experiences shortly.[/QUOTE]
Estelar is a good line of hotels and the one on 93 is no exception. Great area. I've been staying in the area 4 times a year or more for over 10 years. Some ups and downs recently because of Covid and the high influx of Venezuelans, but all in all the safest and best area to stay. A quick taxi ride to Unicentro Bogota, Zona T, SF and just about anywhere. You have Olimpica supermercado, around the corner and many Tiendas. The is a few good restaurants very close to you I can recommend. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2821862]Estelar is a good line of hotels and the one on 93 is no exception. Great area. I've been staying in the area 4 times a year or more for over 10 years. Some ups and downs recently because of Covid and the high influx of Venezuelans, but all in all the safest and best area to stay. A quick taxi ride to Unicentro Bogota, Zona T, SF and just about anywhere. You have Olimpica supermercado, around the corner and many Tiendas. The is a few good restaurants very close to you I can recommend. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Do they allow guests?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2821865]Do they allow guests?[/QUOTE]Not sure, when I was at that one and the Estelar La fontana near the Unicentro Bogota I was with my fiance and she was always registered with me. When I was hitting it hard, I would meet with the manager the first day and tell him I will be holding interviews for prospective employees and I want to be sure they will not be charged as guests. It always worked.

[QUOTE=JackEnBogo;2821571]I would guess there's a pretty low risk of Eroticas chicas stealing or doing something to you. I think I know which boutique hotel you're talking about; it's all normal couples and youngish travelers. You won't see anyone else bringing pros in FYI. You'll be very close to the love motel neighborhood. It's fun to get a nice room with a sex chair, play the music as loud as you want, and keep your options open with civilians at your hotel.

I agree with other posters positive comments about the agency and photos but the ages and English ability listed on the website are not reliable. If you want an English speaking chica I would stick with the few "Ingles fluido" chicas or ask about your language options when you're booking the appointment.

You'd need to have serious game or luck to talk her into going out with you after your appointment the first night. Extending the cita is also putting her into a complicated situation with the agency if you don't want to pay her full rate. It seems unrealistic for the first night, I recommend finding a chica you connect with and then trying a longer date with her another night.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jack. Good to know there's love motels nearby, but I'll at least try. I've made contact with them already, will dial down details a few days before. Hopeful for Danna, she's their priciest girl by far so I assume for good reason, 700 K cop range. Looking at 400 K girls of theirs too. I'm hoping that I hit it off with 2 just of them so its not so obvious. About the date it was just me thinking big, I do plan on going out for nightlife in Zona T the old fashioned way.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2821907]Thanks Jack. Good to know there's love motels nearby, but I'll at least try. I've made contact with them already, will dial down details a few days before. Hopeful for Danna, she's their priciest girl by far so I assume for good reason, 700 K cop range. Looking at 400 K girls of theirs too. I'm hoping that I hit it off with 2 just of them so its not so obvious. About the date it was just me thinking big, I do plan on going out for nightlife in Zona T the old fashioned way.[/QUOTE]Lots of restaurants and bars around Zona T and area nearby. But not at all geared toward hooking up with chicas. Perhaps for someone in their 20's there might be ways to connect on a civilian basis, but for those of us at the other end of the age spectrum this is about as productive as going to a MacDonalds to find chicas. All or almost all of the strip clubs that were in that area are gone. Not a huge loss I guess. They were geared to taking money away from people that didn't know any better. But a big change in 3 years or so since pre-covid. Anyway. A fine upscale area to stay in, but as always don't assume your hotel will welcome your guest. But even if so you will be meeting them somewhere else or online, etc.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2821993]Lots of restaurants and bars around Zona T and area nearby. But not at all geared toward hooking up with chicas. Perhaps for someone in their 20's there might be ways to connect on a civilian basis, but for those of us at the other end of the age spectrum this is about as productive as going to a MacDonalds to find chicas. All or almost all of the strip clubs that were in that area are gone. Not a huge loss I guess. They were geared to taking money away from people that didn't know any better. But a big change in 3 years or so since pre-covid. Anyway. A fine upscale area to stay in, but as always don't assume your hotel will welcome your guest. But even if so you will be meeting them somewhere else or online, etc.[/QUOTE]I appreciate that. I'm hopeful but expected to come empty handed from nightlife, but it'll just be fun to party as I'm in that phase still. Using Eroticas as a safety net, but will be checking out SF clubs. If I'm really desperate and haven't tapped into my monger budget I can always see if I can finagle something not terrible from Lido.

Hello Everyone,

I am looking for some advice on finalizing the location for my upcoming trip. The two options I am considering is Tequendama and No. Tel (Parque 93) area.

Would like to know if anyone has stayed in No. Tel and if it is GF friendly. Also would like to know how the area surrounding Tequendama is. Is it a place one can bring some one from seeking.

I stayed in Zona T for last trip few years ago. It was good area but kind of far from places of interest. Are there any suggestion in terms of location choices to be closer to clubs / SF and still decent to bring back girls please let me know.

Will appreciate the help and will post my reports like last trip.

Thanks.

HH.

[QUOTE=HerryHot;2822532]I stayed in Zona T for last trip few years ago. It was good area but kind of far from places of interest. Are there any suggestion in terms of location choices to be closer to clubs / SF and still decent to bring back girls please let me know.[/QUOTE]There's numerous Airbnb rentals in that area. IMO, the walk to Santa Fe during the daytime is ok. The night can be sketchy. If you are comfortable walking to Hotel San Francisco from Santa Fe, then the Airbnb walk would be similar. Or to be safe, take taxi/ride share.

I prefer Zona T. More restaurants, bars, Luckia poker room. FYI: You always will get a seat, on the Transmilenio number 8 bus, from Santa Fe Calle 22 to Calle 85 between 5-8 pm. Great transport mode if you get a place near the Zona T Calle 85 bus stop. Very safe route.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2821907] Hopeful for Danna, she's their priciest girl by far so I assume for good reason, 700 K cop range. Looking at 400 K girls of theirs too. I'm hoping that I hit it off with 2 just of them so its not so obvious. About the date it was just me thinking big, I do plan on going out for nightlife in Zona T the old fashioned way.[/QUOTE]My two cents on Zona T is that it can be a great area to meet non-pros who are more likely to speak English. If you're looking for women in their early / mid 20's, it's a great option on weekend nights (especially Mono Bandido). I'm onto the next age bracket; at happy hour and early evening there are always pairs and small groups of attractive women in their late 20's through early 40's.

I want to clarify that I am not shitting on your idea of connecting with an escort and arranging a longer night out with her. I just think it will be logistically difficult the first night because the agency often calls the chica right after the date to verify that she left. It's easier and less risky for her to arrange something directly with you for another night.

Danna looks amazing, I hope you get a chance to write up your experience. If a lower priced chica catches your eye, I wouldn't hesitate to try her too. Price doesn't seem to be correlated with having a good time or getting good service. My most expensive date this year was the worst one; I decided to treat myself to a sure thing but she arrived late in a bad mood and left early. One of my best sessions this year started with a long lap dance at Venus followed by taking her upstairs for 90 mil all in.

In Bogota for a month. It would be cool to chill with monger while I am here.

Wish I could just use a CC to pay so I can message people that's currently in Bogota without having to jump through so many loops.

Anyways I'll write some notes of the places I visit in the coming month.

[QUOTE=HerryHot;2822532]Hello Everyone,

I am looking for some advice on finalizing the location for my upcoming trip. The two options I am considering is Tequendama and No. Tel (Parque 93) area.

Would like to know if anyone has stayed in No. Tel and if it is GF friendly. Also would like to know how the area surrounding Tequendama is. Is it a place one can bring some one from seeking.

I stayed in Zona T for last trip few years ago. It was good area but kind of far from places of interest. Are there any suggestion in terms of location choices to be closer to clubs / SF and still decent to bring back girls please let me know.

Will appreciate the help and will post my reports like last trip.

Thanks.

HH.[/QUOTE]The area arounfd Teqendama is a great place to stay-- Teqendama Suites and Ibis are favorites of many here--Good restaurants and tourist places-.

Also many great AirBnB-- You have to research these yourself-.

But the area around Teqendama there are many and also continuin South around Calle 19 and CRA 5 and into La Candeleria-.

I would stay in those near TH and near calle 19.

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=JackEnBogo;2822729]I want to clarify that I am not shitting on your idea of connecting with an escort and arranging a longer night out with her. I just think it will be logistically difficult the first night because the agency often calls the chica right after the date to verify that she left. It's easier and less risky for her to arrange something directly with you for another night.[/QUOTE]Agreed. IME if a girl vibes with you and wants to see you again / outside of the agency, she'll give you her phone number for "next time". This is how I met a chica that I have seen multiple times and gone on weekend trips with. She advertised through eroticas Bogota dot com, but nowadays very rarely seems to show up on their available roster.

[QUOTE=HerryHot;2822532]Hello Everyone,

I am looking for some advice on finalizing the location for my upcoming trip. The two options I am considering is Tequendama and No. Tel (Parque 93) area.

Would like to know if anyone has stayed in No. Tel and if it is GF friendly. Also would like to know how the area surrounding Tequendama is. Is it a place one can bring some one from seeking.

I stayed in Zona T for last trip few years ago. It was good area but kind of far from places of interest. Are there any suggestion in terms of location choices to be closer to clubs / SF and still decent to bring back girls please let me know.

Will appreciate the help and will post my reports like last trip.

Thanks.

HH.[/QUOTE]Your luck that I have nothing to do don't listen to anyone here the best option is to take a hotel and stay in santa fe.

[QUOTE=WhiteLime;2822867]In Bogota for a month. It would be cool to chill with monger while I am here.

Wish I could just use a CC to pay so I can message people that's currently in Bogota without having to jump through so many loops.

Anyways I'll write some notes of the places I visit in the coming month.[/QUOTE]Drop me a line.

I'm finally here. Boots on the ground. I know Sunday's not the best day for this activity, but I have today and tomorrow before moving on to Medellin and I'm trying to maximize my time spent.

Took a stroll through the market in Usaquen before heading down to Absolut Spa around 11:30. White door is not fully shut, which I thought was strange, but wasn't stopping me. So I walk in and go up the stairs while a girl walks out and a guy is rather aggressively shouting "Cerrado! Cerrado!" So I take the hint and turn around and follow the girl back down the stairs. She was smiling, so nothing seemed amiss except the dude's demeanor. She leads me next door to the club. Which I knew about, but still wasn't prepared for. Either way, it looks like a tiny nightclub, it's fucking loud, and I get the lineup. Three girls. A very sweet girl who was a little bigger than my preference who didn't have the face to make up for it. A not as sweet, but still nice second one who was more my speed looks-wise. And a third who was conventionally "hot", but put ZERO effort into the introduction, so that was a non-starter. I'm sorry I don't remember their names, but they were less than memorable. I considered the second one, it wasn't feeling he vibe and knowing I had options made my way up to Tantra Spa.

I walk the few blocks up to Tantra, buzz the white door, and a little cutie 8/10 with a big ass, some cute little titties, and this shoulder length, wavy / curly, dirty blonde hair greets me. I walk in, follow her up the staircase to the left, past another little cutie wearing a see-through net top, and into the room at the end of the hall to he right. She explains situation, 330 mil for massage and relations. I agree and I get the lineup: her and another girl named Brenda, 27 why / o from Barranquilla. Fellas, I don't usually do fake tits, but her total package was 10/10 for me even though she's not what I'the typically go for. Firm, toned body, long, dark hair, tits weren't overboard, and she was smiling a lot. Game on.

We negotiate for some DATY. She asks 100 mil and I laugh at her, so she counters with 50 mil and I accept. I ask about "oral sin condon" and she says 300 mil and I laugh at her again. She gets real serious. This time she doesn't counter. 380 mil out the door. We move to another room, it's bigger and has a shower, but I wish I would've stayed in the first room because it has a bed and the bigger room has a massage table. I take a quick shower as she gets things ready. I get a shit massage while we chat and she tells me to do the flip and it's on. DATY which she seemed to enjoy. She tasted great. Come to find out she's a health nut. Organic everything, always in the gym, low carbs, no sugar. And you can tell. She's a stunner. Body kisses, but no mouth. CBJ, FS in cowgirl, doggy, standing mish on the edge, standing doggy on the edge and the whole time she moaning and playing the part. Bust in the bag. Chat while she's cleaning up. Get dressed. Bounce para comer. 10/10 would do again.

Maana I'm going to get love hotel and an escort from Encounters VIP in the morning and hopefully hear back from Woodman about a tour tomorrow night if he's available. If not, no big deal. I'm off to Medellin on Tuesday where I have a lot of plans and ended up booking a stay at The Mansion, Hotel M, Casablanca (she goes by many names) for one night in addition to checking out the casas and Loutron. Which upon further investigation seems like it's going to be similar to my Absolut experience. High optics, kinda high price, hopefully good service. I feel like The Mansion is going to be the highlight of this leg of the journey. I'll let you know what happens tomorrow.

Thanks Woodman and others for the feedback. I booked Teqendama Suites. Will submit my reviews after my visit.

Cheers,

HH.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2822888]The area arounfd Teqendama is a great place to stay-- Teqendama Suites and Ibis are favorites of many here--Good restaurants and tourist places-.

Also many great AirBnB-- You have to research these yourself-.

But the area around Teqendama there are many and also continuin South around Calle 19 and CRA 5 and into La Candeleria-.

I would stay in those near TH and near calle 19.

Good Luck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WhiteLime;2822867]In Bogota for a month. It would be cool to chill with monger while I am here.

Wish I could just use a CC to pay so I can message people that's currently in Bogota without having to jump through so many loops.

Anyways I'll write some notes of the places I visit in the coming month.[/QUOTE]Finally after all my posts I'm coming up as a 1st timer this Wed night through Sun morning. You or anyone can let me know if you're down to chill & monger. I'll be in Chapinero, trying to get 3-4 sessions a day for the short visit.

-Doing a Woodman tour the 1st available night. If solo, Troya, Fiebra, Paisa are my targets and staying on that street.

-Tantra: Excited about this, read reports & its a 15 min walk. Seems beginner friendly, safe short walk, and the option. Prices are jawdropping to me, 50 K COP ($12 USD? Including BBBJ & FS, seems 50 K upsell on some things by some girls. I liked reading some guys getting girls numbers for later. Peak time is 11 am-noon it seems, so great to have a day time option.

-Eroticas Bogota: I now realize they have a rotating daily schedule & girls times with some turnover, 'll wait until my 1st morning so I have a night to tip & get a rapport with my boutique hotel workers. The hotel has a rooftop bar restaurant so I'm hoping that's enough plausibility, I'd meet the girl up a block to greet her to make sure she dressed discrete & so she acts right.

Nightlife: I'm hoping I'll be so sapped of mojo that I can just enjoy the nightlife as a social butterfly. I'm 30 so I'm up for it to push my Spanish and the new exp. Theatron, Presea, Federal, Fabuloso, Clandestino, Kaputt.

Restaurants? Any worth while splurge restaurants I can eat solo? Doesn't have to be Michellin but modern / trendy / chic, can be any food just trying to make use of this hedonistic trip. Also if I anyone wants to grab dinner. -DJ.

[QUOTE=MongerLonger;2823777]I'm finally here. Boots on the ground. I know Sunday's not the best day for this activity, but I have today and tomorrow before moving on to Medellin and I'm trying to maximize my time spent.

Took a stroll through the market in Usaquen before heading down to Absolut Spa… [/QUOTE]I got the destinations backwards in my report yesterday. I visited Tantra and the adjacent bar first and sessioned at Absolut with Brenda. Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks. But like I said I don't have a subscription so I can't really message anyone. Not sure if I can receive messages thought.

Anyways a small report:

Tantra bar and tantra spa. Visited on a Sunday and the lineup was meh so I didn't session.

Abejitas Spa. Visited on a Monday and there was an ok lineup. About 8 girls. Mostly 20-25 year old ranging from 5-7 depending on taste. Nothing special but good to pop a nut. Session with a flaca whos name was not worth remembering. The room was also meh. It is setup as a massage / spa place and there is only a message table. The bathroom / shower was not great. No signs or anything outside so follow the address on the map and hit the black doorbell when you find it. Not hard to find. Probably wouldn't go again. 190 k for an hour. 1 pop + 20-30 mins massage.

Pussy House. Popped by late-ish at around 11 pm Thursday. Also nothing special 8-10 girls while I was there. Big range from 3-7 depending on taste. Good if you want to drink and chill with the girls or friends. I don't really recommend coming alone as it can get kinda boring if you don't hit it off with a chica. No one really stood out to me so I didn't session. Just got a half bottle and chilled with a chica for a bit. Note that you need to be careful when paying and the change. A lot of the waiters will pocket your change. I got a coke at the end and paid 50 k since I didn't have small bills and had to wait 20 mins and asked for the change. The MF wanted to pocket the whole 40 k change. I don't even think a coke is 10 k there so probably more. This happened twice. The other time was with a 80 k bottle that I paid 100 k for and never got the change. The girl asked for 50 k for a 2-3 song lapdance and I think 120 k for a rato (15 mins) in the room if I remember correctly.

Santa Fe. Checked out most of the bars on Thursday night and it was definitely slower than the last few times I visited Bogota. Not so many people and not so many chica lining the streets. Troya was full of plastics. Maybe 2 chicas from Venus that I would session. 2 from fibre were decent. I think I like the atune the best just for the layout. Maybe two there that I would session with. I was quoted 40 k for a lapdance and 100 k for a rato (15 mins). Didn't session since I wasn't in the mood.

I am 32 and I work online so daytime fun is a little limited because of meetings. I do plan on checking out of more cases when I free up. I have been to Bogota a few times now since it is a hub into South America. Going to hit up Rio in like a month to change things up.

Love Shack, baby!

So after walking around La Candelaria for a while, eating a tamale and some jugo de lulo at La Puerta Falsa, and heading up to Montserrate I tried a chica from Encounters VIP and got a room at Z Motel for a couple hours.

I'd actually been lusting after a few girls on their website for a while and settled on Ashley over Mafe, Jessica, Angelica, and Alondra. I'the had a few conversations over Telegram with whoever is on the other end and through and through they seem to be all about customer service. Answering all my stupid questions and staying in communication with me during the rental process. A+ to Encounters VIP. They even checked in afterward to gauge my satisfaction.

Z Motel, for those that don't know, is a Love Hotel in an area with several others around it that rents rooms for 4+ hours or so. I walk over from my spot near Parque de LOS Hippies, the security guy sends me on the elevator up to the fifth floor, took a right, and was greeted by some older ladies dressed as house keepers (not the sexy kind) doing double duty of cleaning up and facilitating. One showed me into the room and quoted me 75 mil, I asked if there was anything cheaper and she said this was it. It was a good room. King size bed, some sex furniture, bathroom with everything on display, TV with all the channels (which was useful while I awaited her arrival) - think Vegas. I give the lady a hundo and she puts my change in the dumbwaiter in the wall a few minutes later so we don't see each other again. They have food and drinks if you want too. I did not indulge.

At this point, because they don't know me, I can order the girl. As a first timer they want you to be in the room first and give them the number before they contact the girl to verify that you're not a no-show. As I said, they stayed in complete communication with me about her ETA for the entire 40-45 minutes from contact to showing up. You can check out Ashley's dimensions on the website if you're so inclined. Her body, with those natural tits and thick, firm ass were just right, however, I didn't love her face. It wasn't bad, just not great. That said, her body and the service was 11/10. By the end I had gotten over it. She shows up, immediately hugs me and kisses me on the mouth. Me gusta. We make out for a minute, hands roaming, and then we get to business. She asks me what I like, I tell her carinosa como una novia (I'm trying to forget an ex), we discuss prices for BBBJ, CIM, DATY, and anal and I decide to just go with regular service, no add-ONS for 250 mil. I pay, we play. Lots of kissing on the mouth and all over her body as we undress eachother. She was really enjoying it. We get to the BJ portion of the event and she's doing a good job, but I can't feel shit through the condom, so I quote her back her 200 mil for BBBJ and pay for her to go to town, no rubber, and my God was it worth it. She does this for however long she does it while I'm grabbing her and kissing her body. She's deep throating even though so didn't ask or pay for it. Finally I can feel that it's going to happen so we strap a new rubber on, before getting on top. Again, more making out while I'm inside her. Tongue, lip biting, the whole show. I throw her into doggy and not long after that I'm blasting off. We laid there and talked for a while. Fellas, speaking Spanish makes this whole thing immensely more enjoyable. For me at least. She's giving me the GFE. Running her fingers through my hair during pillow talk and just vibing. She's good at her job. We exchange info and she tries to set up another encounter for later, but I tell her I'm happy to take her out for dinner and hang, but I'm out of money for her pussy. In not those exact terms. She's cool, but not that cool, so we part on excellent terms. She's still kissing me in the elevator on the way out and before she gets in the cab. A true GFE, IMHO.

Bogota, great job. 450 mil out the door for GFE, BBBJ, and one of the better mongering experiences I've ever had. There's still that one FKK girl from before COVID.

On to Medellin!

[QUOTE=WhiteLime;2824064]Thanks. But like I said I don't have a subscription so I can't really message anyone. Not sure if I can receive messages thought.

Anyways a small report:

Tantra bar and tantra spa. Visited on a Sunday and the lineup was meh so I didn't session.

Abejitas Spa. Visited on a Monday and there was an ok lineup. About 8 girls. Mostly 20-25 year old ranging from 5-7 depending on taste. Nothing special but good to pop a nut. Session with a flaca whos name was not worth remembering. The room was also meh. It is setup as a massage / spa place and there is only a message table. The bathroom / shower was not great. No signs or anything outside so follow the address on the map and hit the black doorbell when you find it. Not hard to find. Probably wouldn't go again. 190 k for an hour. 1 pop + 20-30 mins massage.

Pussy House. Popped by late-ish at around 11 pm Thursday. Also nothing special 8-10 girls while I was there. Big range from 3-7 depending on taste. Good if you want to drink and chill with the girls or friends. I don't really recommend coming alone as it can get kinda boring if you don't hit it off with a chica. No one really stood out to me so I didn't session. Just got a half bottle and chilled with a chica for a bit. Note that you need to be careful when paying and the change. A lot of the waiters will pocket your change. I got a coke at the end and paid 50 k since I didn't have small bills and had to wait 20 mins and asked for the change. The MF wanted to pocket the whole 40 k change. I don't even think a coke is 10 k there so probably more. This happened twice. The other time was with a 80 k bottle that I paid 100 k for and never got the change. The girl asked for 50 k for a 2-3 song lapdance and I think 120 k for a rato (15 mins) in the room if I remember correctly.

Santa Fe. Checked out most of the bars on Thursday night and it was definitely slower than the last few times I visited Bogota. Not so many people and not so many chica lining the streets. Troya was full of plastics. Maybe 2 chicas from Venus that I would session. 2 from fibre were decent. I think I like the atune the best just for the layout. Maybe two there that I would session with. I was quoted 40 k for a lapdance and 100 k for a rato (15 mins). Didn't session since I wasn't in the mood.

I am 32 and I work online so daytime fun is a little limited because of meetings. I do plan on checking out of more cases when I free up. I have been to Bogota a few times now since it is a hub into South America. Going to hit up Rio in like a month to change things up.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. How did you get into SF? Uber? If so any issues getting dropped off or picked up on that street. No idea how my GPS / reception will be and don't want my phone out if I'm off a few blocks. Were the SF clubs still manageable with poor Spanish?

[QUOTE=MongerLonger;2823777]I'm finally here. Boots on the ground. I know Sunday's not the best day for this activity, but I have today and tomorrow before moving on to Medellin and I'm trying to maximize my time spent.

Took a stroll through the market in Usaquen before heading down to Absolut Spa around 11:30. White door is not fully shut, which I thought was strange, but wasn't stopping me. So I walk in and go up the stairs while a girl walks out and a guy is rather aggressively shouting "Cerrado! Cerrado!" So I take the hint and turn around and follow the girl back down the stairs. She was smiling, so nothing seemed amiss except the dude's demeanor. She leads me next door to the club. Which I knew about, but still wasn't prepared for. Either way, it looks like a tiny nightclub, it's fucking loud, and I get the lineup. Three girls. A very sweet girl who was a little bigger than my preference who didn't have the face to make up for it. A not as sweet, but still nice second one who was more my speed looks-wise. And a third who was conventionally "hot", but put ZERO effort into the introduction, so that was a non-starter. I'm sorry I don't remember their names, but they were less than memorable. I considered the second one, it wasn't feeling he vibe and knowing I had options made my way up to Tantra Spa.

I walk the few blocks up to Tantra, buzz the white door, and a little cutie 8/10 with a big ass, some cute little titties, and this shoulder length, wavy / curly, dirty blonde hair greets me. I walk in, follow her up the staircase to the left, past another little cutie wearing a see-through net top, and into the room at the end of the hall to he right. She explains situation, 330 mil for massage and relations. I agree and I get the lineup: her and another girl named Brenda, 27 why / o from Barranquilla. Fellas, I don't usually do fake tits, but her total package was 10/10 for me even though she's not what I'the typically go for. Firm, toned body, long, dark hair, tits weren't overboard, and she was smiling a lot. Game on.

We negotiate for some DATY. She asks 100 mil and I laugh at her, so she counters with 50 mil and I accept. I ask about "oral sin condon" and she says 300 mil and I laugh at her again. She gets real serious. This time she doesn't counter. 380 mil out the door. We move to another room, it's bigger and has a shower, but I wish I would've stayed in the first room because it has a bed and the bigger room has a massage table. I take a quick shower as she gets things ready. I get a shit massage while we chat and she tells me to do the flip and it's on. DATY which she seemed to enjoy. She tasted great. Come to find out she's a health nut. Organic everything, always in the gym, low carbs, no sugar. And you can tell. She's a stunner. Body kisses, but no mouth. CBJ, FS in cowgirl, doggy, standing mish on the edge, standing doggy on the edge and the whole time she moaning and playing the part. Bust in the bag. Chat while she's cleaning up. Get dressed. Bounce para comer. 10/10 would do again.

Maana I'm going to get love hotel and an escort from Encounters VIP in the morning and hopefully hear back from Woodman about a tour tomorrow night if he's available. If not, no big deal. I'm off to Medellin on Tuesday where I have a lot of plans and ended up booking a stay at The Mansion, Hotel M, Casablanca (she goes by many names) for one night in addition to checking out the casas and Loutron. Which upon further investigation seems like it's going to be similar to my Absolut experience. High optics, kinda high price, hopefully good service. I feel like The Mansion is going to be the highlight of this leg of the journey. I'll let you know what happens tomorrow.[/QUOTE]Whats with these ridiculous prices? 380 mil for massage and some fun? Seems very very overpriced based on my experiences. I usually get the full package including oral without for no more than 300.

Thanks for the feedback and support I received for so from Bogota forum. I see some discussion on meeting girls from photoprepagos, just want to understand how the experience in terms of service and accuracy of photos / safety from this site. Last trip I did not use this one. There are some good looking chicas on it and wanted to explore meeting them at hotel or love motel. Also are there any pointers on day time casas around time casas around chapineiro area (pm me if you want to share discreetly). I would like to explore these in addition to SF at night. Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks,

HH.

Let's get into. First visit to COL / BOG.

Wed night: Did a Woodman tour into SF around 11 pm. Had no idea what to really expect, it felt surreal despite all the reports and youtube vids. It was a slow night, which was good for my 1st and Woody as the wing. Here's the action.

Troya: Music was a little loud, which made me anxious because my Spanish is bad in social, energetic settings. Found this brown skin Colombiana Barbie she had the look I want. Ultimately was below avg, it was 50 K for dance / show. She asked to pay up front which I hear isn't customary. Nice sexy dance, but didn't let me touch her rack just ass. Kind of let down, but I didn't pick up on the negative signs like her being cold and asking for a 2nd drink before dancing.

Atonis: this was the spot. I liked the set up, being tighter quarters I felt like I focus easier. Saw this gorgeous 20 yo Colombiana, great smile, tight perk body with a Tiara, very prom queen. Went to the 2nd floor, 30 K for a dance hers was much better. She went for 3 songs and plenty athleticism. Went upstairs, 90 K for 15 or 20 min I forget. All covered basic action, but she was submissive and enthusiastic. Realizing that I only spent $29 on her was nuts to realize. My best USA situation is $10 dances & $260 minimum for 30 min reserve in a club. For effectively its ONE FIFTH THE PRICE. Amazing. Didn't see all the clubs, but Atonis was fun as on the way out there were 2 or 3 others I really wanted.

Tantra: 15 min walk during the following day at noon. Going from the area of Four Seasons in Chapinero to Tanta passed a university felt like I was "really" in Colombia, a little more developing but didn't feel unsafe. Almost missed the entrance even tho there was a door guy, thankfully someone here posted the entrance pic. Lineup was quick, literally 15-20 girls not all could even fit in a row. I was overwhelmed trying to remember names but they all rifled through. Got this thick early 30's looking MILF with huge rack, a dark hair Venezuelan. 50 K for 30 min with BBBJ. Fun session. Unreal, $12 for what I spend $260 at home with BBBJ included. Most of the girls were 5's and 6's, a couple 7's, and I feel like there were 2 x 8's buried in there. For the price and length & ease I rate tantra highly.

Eroticas: Splurged here. I wanted to experience the "high end" experience similar to Barcelona. It was a gamble with their photos but their Whatsapp was responsive, the schedule changes every day. Really wanted Danna but she was not working, got Lolita. Slightly off from her pics but still still a 9. Website said fluent English but hers was as bad as my Spanish and they make a distinction from intermediate and basic. Not a deal breaker, that's on me for not continuing my practice. She was hotter than Atonis and Tantra, plus the comfort of my hotel room, but I did spend 550 K for 60 min including BBBJ. She was submissive, said she started last week. Not much DFK out of her, she may have gotten dry, but a sweet girl. Plenty of their girls do 200-300 K. Wasnt a cheap option but it's still ONE THIRD the cost and 2 x as long. Would like if the Eroticas had a house for options, but oh well.

I'll likely do Tantra as my day option for Fri and Sat. Tonight I'm going to socialize in Rosa. Will likely do SF on a busy Fri, and depending whos free at Eroticas I may do another. There's another similar Eroticas girl I may try who offers CIM so my thought is she'll be more intense DFK.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2825025]Let's get into. First visit to COL / BOG.

Wed night: Did a Woodman tour into SF around 11 pm. Had no idea what to really expect, it felt surreal despite all the reports and youtube vids. It was a slow night, which was good for my 1st and Woody as the wing. Here's the action.

Troya: Music was a little loud, which made me anxious because my Spanish is bad in social, energetic settings. Found this brown skin Colombiana Barbie she had the look I want. Ultimately was below avg, it was 50 K for dance / show. She asked to pay up front which I hear isn't customary. Nice sexy dance, but didn't let me touch her rack just ass. Kind of let down, but I didn't pick up on the negative signs like her being cold and asking for a 2nd drink before dancing.

Atonis: this was the spot. I liked the set up, being tighter quarters I felt like I focus easier. Saw this gorgeous 20 yo Colombiana, great smile, tight perk body with a Tiara, very prom queen. Went to the 2nd floor, 30 K for a dance hers was much better. She went for 3 songs and plenty athleticism. Went upstairs, 90 K for 15 or 20 min I forget. All covered basic action, but she was submissive and enthusiastic. Realizing that I only spent $29 on her was nuts to realize. My best USA situation is $10 dances & $260 minimum for 30 min reserve in a club. For effectively its ONE FIFTH THE PRICE. Amazing. Didn't see all the clubs, but Atonis was fun as on the way out there were 2 or 3 others I really wanted.

Tantra: 15 min walk during the following day at noon. Going from the area of Four Seasons in Chapinero to Tanta passed a university felt like I was "really" in Colombia, a little more developing but didn't feel unsafe. Almost missed the entrance even tho there was a door guy, thankfully someone here posted the entrance pic. Lineup was quick, literally 15-20 girls not all could even fit in a row. I was overwhelmed trying to remember names but they all rifled through. Got this thick early 30's looking MILF with huge rack, a dark hair Venezuelan. 50 K for 30 min with BBBJ. Fun session. Unreal, $12 for what I spend $260 at home with BBBJ included. Most of the girls were 5's and 6's, a couple 7's, and I feel like there were 2 x 8's buried in there. For the price and length & ease I rate tantra highly.

Eroticas: Splurged here. I wanted to experience the "high end" experience similar to Barcelona. It was a gamble with their photos but their Whatsapp was responsive, the schedule changes every day. Really wanted Danna but she was not working, got Lolita. Slightly off from her pics but still still a 9. Website said fluent English but hers was as bad as my Spanish and they make a distinction from intermediate and basic. Not a deal breaker, that's on me for not continuing my practice. She was hotter than Atonis and Tantra, plus the comfort of my hotel room, but I did spend 550 K for 60 min including BBBJ. She was submissive, said she started last week. Not much DFK out of her, she may have gotten dry, but a sweet girl. Plenty of their girls do 200-300 K. Wasnt a cheap option but it's still ONE THIRD the cost and 2 x as long. Would like if the Eroticas had a house for options, but oh well.

I'll likely do Tantra as my day option for Fri and Sat. Tonight I'm going to socialize in Rosa. Will likely do SF on a busy Fri, and depending whos free at Eroticas I may do another. There's another similar Eroticas girl I may try who offers CIM so my thought is she'll be more intense DFK.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, will be there next weekend for one night so need this sort of intel.

How are you getting about? Any tips for hotel in case I need to bring back?

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2825126]Thanks for the report, will be there next weekend for one night so need this sort of intel.

How are you getting about? Any tips for hotel in case I need to bring back?[/QUOTE]What night are you hitting the clubs / Santa Fe streets.

I plan on Sunday night. Its usually extremely slow but I still plan on checking out the action.

I hate walking through the trannie area to reach the south end of the stroll where the Vennies are.

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2825139]What night are you hitting the clubs / Santa Fe streets.

I plan on Sunday night. Its usually extremely slow but I still plan on checking out the action.

I hate walking through the trannie area to reach the south end of the stroll where the Vennies are.[/QUOTE]Saturday night is my only escape. What's my best bang for the buck? Just coming down to pick up some single origin beans and distribute some of my beans too haha.

[QUOTE=MongerLonger;2824076]Love Shack, baby!

So after walking around La Candelaria for a while, eating a tamale and some jugo de lulo at La Puerta Falsa, and heading up to Montserrate I tried a chica from Encounters VIP and got a room at Z Motel for a couple hours.

I'd actually been lusting after a few girls on their website for a while and settled on Ashley over Mafe, Jessica, Angelica, and Alondra. I'the had a few conversations over Telegram with whoever is on the other end and through and through they seem to be all about customer service. Answering all my stupid questions and staying in communication with me during the rental process. A+ to Encounters VIP. They even checked in afterward to gauge my satisfaction.

Z Motel, for those that don't know, is a Love Hotel in an area with several others around it that rents rooms for 4+ hours or so. I walk over from my spot near Parque de LOS Hippies, the security guy sends me on the elevator up to the fifth floor, took a right, and was greeted by some older ladies dressed as house keepers (not the sexy kind) doing double duty of cleaning up and facilitating. One showed me into the room and quoted me 75 mil, I asked if there was anything cheaper and she said this was it. It was a good room. King size bed, some sex furniture, bathroom with everything on display, TV with all the channels (which was useful while I awaited her arrival) - think Vegas. I give the lady a hundo and she puts my change in the dumbwaiter in the wall a few minutes later so we don't see each other again. They have food and drinks if you want too. I did not indulge.

At this point, because they don't know me, I can order the girl. As a first timer they want you to be in the room first and give them the number before they contact the girl to verify that you're not a no-show. As I said, they stayed in complete communication with me about her ETA for the entire 40-45 minutes from contact to showing up. You can check out Ashley's dimensions on the website if you're so inclined. Her body, with those natural tits and thick, firm ass were just right, however, I didn't love her face. It wasn't bad, just not great. That said, her body and the service was 11/10. By the end I had gotten over it. She shows up, immediately hugs me and kisses me on the mouth. Me gusta. We make out for a minute, hands roaming, and then we get to business. She asks me what I like, I tell her carinosa como una novia (I'm trying to forget an ex), we discuss prices for BBBJ, CIM, DATY, and anal and I decide to just go with regular service, no add-ONS for 250 mil. I pay, we play. Lots of kissing on the mouth and all over her body as we undress eachother. She was really enjoying it. We get to the BJ portion of the event and she's doing a good job, but I can't feel shit through the condom, so I quote her back her 200 mil for BBBJ and pay for her to go to town, no rubber, and my God was it worth it. She does this for however long she does it while I'm grabbing her and kissing her body. She's deep throating even though so didn't ask or pay for it. Finally I can feel that it's going to happen so we strap a new rubber on, before getting on top. Again, more making out while I'm inside her. Tongue, lip biting, the whole show. I throw her into doggy and not long after that I'm blasting off. We laid there and talked for a while. Fellas, speaking Spanish makes this whole thing immensely more enjoyable. For me at least. She's giving me the GFE. Running her fingers through my hair during pillow talk and just vibing. She's good at her job. We exchange info and she tries to set up another encounter for later, but I tell her I'm happy to take her out for dinner and hang, but I'm out of money for her pussy. In not those exact terms. She's cool, but not that cool, so we part on excellent terms. She's still kissing me in the elevator on the way out and before she gets in the cab. A true GFE, IMHO.

Bogota, great job. 450 mil out the door for GFE, BBBJ, and one of the better mongering experiences I've ever had. There's still that one FKK girl from before COVID.

On to Medellin![/QUOTE]450 mil I. E 450,000 COP?

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2825126]Thanks for the report, will be there next weekend for one night so need this sort of intel.

How are you getting about? Any tips for hotel in case I need to bring back?[/QUOTE]I'm using Ubers the couple times I needed. Plenty of availability, even Thursday night around 1 am an Uber came within 5 min. My receptions been fine, I have Tmobile and used their day passes for international travel. Able to Google maps search, menus, websites with ease, about $5 a day so I didn't bother with SIMs.

The hotel tips, in my 1 encounter, Its just guessing. I'm in a smaller boutique hotel so may be different from big hotel chains. Staff is mostly young. I made sure to make my presence known early and try to interact early & flush out a backstory like you're there for business. I also asked them about dinner recommendations, so it seemed like we were just going to the room to prep. They still made her check ID which was fine, Eroticas told me all their girls are University girls with clean, local backgrounds. We walked out together in hand, took her to the Uber and I stayed out to get dinner. Likely overkill but I like this hotel & may consider a 2nd girl.

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2825139]What night are you hitting the clubs / Santa Fe streets.

I plan on Sunday night. Its usually extremely slow but I still plan on checking out the action.

I hate walking through the trannie area to reach the south end of the stroll where the Vennies are.[/QUOTE]Only went Wed, skipped Thurs. Will go either Fri or Sat. I don't feel comfortable staying in SF late or solo until my Spanish is better. Plus I do want to socialize in Zona Rosa. I'll aim to get in around 10 pm, check out a couple clubs. The meseros make me anxious so I'd just tip $2 K cop so I can just take a girl. I liked Atonis bc it seemed I could just stand and nab a girl for 2nd floor dances.

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2825152]Saturday night is my only escape. What's my best bang for the buck? Just coming down to pick up some single origin beans and distribute some of my beans too haha.[/QUOTE]I'd say Santa Fe clubs in my limited experience. Tantra is closed at night, plus it sounds like they're best at noon when most girls and most fresh. You could do Eroticas with a cheaper girl, but its a hail Mary. I went with assumption that their pricier girls are hotter, even though you can get one of their cheaper ones. But then there's hotel discrepancy, but it does save you the trips into SF & all that stimulus.

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2825153]450 mil I. E 450,000 COP?[/QUOTE]Yes, I splurged on purpose. All their prices vary amongst the girls. I gambled that the pricier girls would be better, but had no way to confirm because there's hardly reviews. She was 350 mill for 1 HR basic services and another 100 mill for BBBJ. I believe they have girls in the 200's range, which is similar per minute vs some SF clubs. Plus the convenience of a nice open room and she was fresh as can be, hair and makeup done elegantly.

At minimum I wanted to experience a full spread of clubs vs parlor vs escort. I don't care for strolls yet with my low exp here, and the overall low costs here make me worry less.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2825025]Let's get into. First visit to COL / BOG.

Wed night: Did a Woodman tour into SF around 11 pm. Had no idea what to really expect, it felt surreal despite all the reports and youtube vids. It was a slow night, which was good for my 1st and Woody as the wing. Here's the action.

Troya: Music was a little loud, which made me anxious because my Spanish is bad in social, energetic settings. Found this brown skin Colombiana Barbie she had the look I want. Ultimately was below avg, it was 50 K for dance / show. She asked to pay up front which I hear isn't customary. Nice sexy dance, but didn't let me touch her rack just ass. Kind of let down, but I didn't pick up on the negative signs like her being cold and asking for a 2nd drink before dancing.

Atonis: this was the spot. I liked the set up, being tighter quarters I felt like I focus easier. Saw this gorgeous 20 yo Colombiana, great smile, tight perk body with a Tiara, very prom queen. Went to the 2nd floor, 30 K for a dance hers was much better. She went for 3 songs and plenty athleticism. Went upstairs, 90 K for 15 or 20 min I forget. All covered basic action, but she was submissive and enthusiastic. Realizing that I only spent $29 on her was nuts to realize. My best USA situation is $10 dances & $260 minimum for 30 min reserve in a club. For effectively its ONE FIFTH THE PRICE. Amazing. Didn't see all the clubs, but Atonis was fun as on the way out there were 2 or 3 others I really wanted.

Tantra: 15 min walk during the following day at noon. Going from the area of Four Seasons in Chapinero to Tanta passed a university felt like I was "really" in Colombia, a little more developing but didn't feel unsafe. Almost missed the entrance even tho there was a door guy, thankfully someone here posted the entrance pic. Lineup was quick, literally 15-20 girls not all could even fit in a row. I was overwhelmed trying to remember names but they all rifled through. Got this thick early 30's looking MILF with huge rack, a dark hair Venezuelan. 50 K for 30 min with BBBJ. Fun session. Unreal, $12 for what I spend $260 at home with BBBJ included. Most of the girls were 5's and 6's, a couple 7's, and I feel like there were 2 x 8's buried in there. For the price and length & ease I rate tantra highly.

Eroticas: Splurged here. I wanted to experience the "high end" experience similar to Barcelona. It was a gamble with their photos but their Whatsapp was responsive, the schedule changes every day. Really wanted Danna but she was not working, got Lolita. Slightly off from her pics but still still a 9. Website said fluent English but hers was as bad as my Spanish and they make a distinction from intermediate and basic. Not a deal breaker, that's on me for not continuing my practice. She was hotter than Atonis and Tantra, plus the comfort of my hotel room, but I did spend 550 K for 60 min including BBBJ. She was submissive, said she started last week. Not much DFK out of her, she may have gotten dry, but a sweet girl. Plenty of their girls do 200-300 K. Wasnt a cheap option but it's still ONE THIRD the cost and 2 x as long. Would like if the Eroticas had a house for options, but oh well.

I'll likely do Tantra as my day option for Fri and Sat. Tonight I'm going to socialize in Rosa. Will likely do SF on a busy Fri, and depending whos free at Eroticas I may do another. There's another similar Eroticas girl I may try who offers CIM so my thought is she'll be more intense DFK.[/QUOTE]Also what sort of timings are you doing the mongering at these places?

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2825176]Also what sort of timings are you doing the mongering at these places?[/QUOTE]Like I wrote, was around 11 pm Wed for SF, around noon Thurs for Tantra. Eroticas times changes daily, I did it around 7 pm Thurs. My girl came early unannounced until arrival so make time, but it was fair since she came from far.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2825166]Yes, I splurged on purpose. All their prices vary amongst the girls. I gambled that the pricier girls would be better, but had no way to confirm because there's hardly reviews. She was 350 mill for 1 HR basic services and another 100 mill for BBBJ. I believe they have girls in the 200's range, which is similar per minute vs some SF clubs. Plus the convenience of a nice open room and she was fresh as can be, hair and makeup done elegantly.

At minimum I wanted to experience a full spread of clubs vs parlor vs escort. I don't care for strolls yet with my low exp here, and the overall low costs here make me worry less.[/QUOTE]Very useful info, thanks and hope I can repay the intel if you ever visit my locale in the middle east!

BTW In the middle east it's HJ, BBBJ or FS in that order. Where HJ is considered basic service in the parlours.

What constitute basic services around there?

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2825025]Let's get into. First visit to COL / BOG.

Wed night: Did a Woodman tour into SF around 11 pm. Had no idea what to really expect, it felt surreal despite all the reports and youtube vids. It was a slow night, which was good for my 1st and Woody as the wing. Here's the action.

Troya: Music was a little loud, which made me anxious because my Spanish is bad in social, energetic settings. Found this brown skin Colombiana Barbie she had the look I want. Ultimately was below avg, it was 50 K for dance / show. She asked to pay up front which I hear isn't customary. Nice sexy dance, but didn't let me touch her rack just ass. Kind of let down, but I didn't pick up on the negative signs like her being cold and asking for a 2nd drink before dancing.

Atonis: this was the spot. I liked the set up, being tighter quarters I felt like I focus easier. Saw this gorgeous 20 yo Colombiana, great smile, tight perk body with a Tiara, very prom queen. Went to the 2nd floor, 30 K for a dance hers was much better. She went for 3 songs and plenty athleticism. Went upstairs, 90 K for 15 or 20 min I forget. All covered basic action, but she was submissive and enthusiastic. Realizing that I only spent $29 on her was nuts to realize. My best USA situation is $10 dances & $260 minimum for 30 min reserve in a club. For effectively its ONE FIFTH THE PRICE. Amazing. Didn't see all the clubs, but Atonis was fun as on the way out there were 2 or 3 others I really wanted..[/QUOTE]Nice report. 550 for a truly hot girl and going through a third party sounds about right.

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2825265]Very useful info, thanks and hope I can repay the intel if you ever visit my locale in the middle east!

BTW In the middle east it's HJ, BBBJ or FS in that order. Where HJ is considered basic service in the parlours.

What constitute basic services around there?[/QUOTE]Basic is CBJ (though I'm sure they'd do HJ but base prices include CBJ) and CFS. Other than that each Eroticas girl is varied. All include DFK but this girl was sweet but shallow kisses. Still looking for that perfect in looks and full service with GFE. Eroticas posts all the minor services for each girl. Itemized so it's clear what you're signing up for.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2825267]Nice report. 550 for a truly hot girl and going through a third party sounds about right.[/QUOTE]Went to Mezzanine. Was easy to figure out. Went in the back area upstairs first, seemed like each girl was solo. Though 1 offered threesome, but the back room girls were 5's or 6's to me. If free then sure. Went with front room, door 7. Had 3 girls to pick. None amazing looking, went with a Venezuelan girl I forget her name, has braces and I didn't realize she had a thick full athletic ass like Kendra Lust. Upgraded her from a 7 to just near an 8. Her rack was small, deflated which confirmed post pregnancy when I saw see-section scar. Was 200 K for 1 HR, full service plus BBBJ. Performance was good, not thay enthusiastic emotionally, but worked that ass in doggy very well, also submissive to my position requests. I took the big bedroom too, would've been cheaper maybe by 50 K if in small room. Also I'm sure I got the gringo tax since I was butchering my Spanish.

I went Friday around 6 pm, if it wasn't for that 1 girl it would have been a dud. Plus a pain in the ass to Uber from Chapinero to there in chico. But for $48 for 1 hour, literally 10 x cheaper than the cheapest USA action I have. In hindsight I would have walked to Tantra the 15 min, I feel like they pool from the same look in girls and Tantra had way more girls than they did. Plus for half the price, equivalent of 100 K for an hour.

Went to Zona T, very late start around 1230 since I botched my power nap. Crowd was all 20's, so may not be a good option for older guys. Because I stick out as a solo gringo, I got solicited HARD by street guys at entrances talking about chicas. I did my best to not entertain them. One guy wrote out a paragraph that he has a bunch of girls from Medellin, I ejected quick so I have no idea of the set up if it's a house nearby, or if it's just a regular club with working girls in Zona T / Rosa?

Has anyone experienced this? I could've engaged for the report but I felt like they were already on me like molasses even with a 2nd pass during a loop. Perhaps it could be a whole nother talent pool for late more north of the city?

Final day Sat. I need to blow all my leftover cash. I'm waiting for the Eroticas lineup, so I may just book a 250 K girl to my room. Otherwise it's Tantra again, or the daytime Atunes / Atonis. I could strike gold at daytime SF as the individual pesos goes farther, but it'll be annoying to burn the 20 min Uber if it's dead or annoying.

As for night, how early is Santa Fe clubs really fun on a Sat? I could do a 9-10 pm start. Get myself drained, then go to Zona Rosa one more time to socialize safely.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2825375]Went to Zona T, very late start around 1230 since I botched my power nap. Crowd was all 20's, so may not be a good option for older guys. Because I stick out as a solo gringo, I got solicited HARD by street guys at entrances talking about chicas. I did my best to not entertain them. One guy wrote out a paragraph that he has a bunch of girls from Medellin, I ejected quick so I have no idea of the set up if it's a house nearby, or if it's just a regular club with working girls in Zona T / Rosa?[/QUOTE]He is just going to walk you over to that expensive place around the corner. I can not remember names of places but it has been talked about here plenty of times before. There are no secret places that have not been reported on here or in the Bogota Lists thread. Does anyone even read the Bogota Lists thread because every report seems to talk about people going to the same 2 places, or mostly Mezzanine, when there are tons of other places to go to.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2825430]He is just going to walk you over to that expensive place around the corner. I can not remember names of places but it has been talked about here plenty of times before. There are no secret places that have not been reported on here or in the Bogota Lists thread. Does anyone even read the Bogota Lists thread because every report seems to talk about people going to the same 2 places, or mostly Mezzanine, when there are tons of other places to go to.[/QUOTE]I'm just putting down my report. There's a lot of content here, which is great, but with the search function not being the best it's overwhelming for me to map out every spot. I'm aware of Olimpo being nearby but the guys made no distinction of it since I ended engagements quick. If I was here longer or would make frequent trips I would scour the city but I found it reasonable to stick with the higher review, higher volume spots as ratings are subjective and I have very specific tastes. I want to limit every chance of getting burned with low quality talent.

With my last day, the top 3 girls I wanted from Eroticas weren't missing. Which is probably for the best, because if Danna was working I likely would've burned my remaining monger budget for a couple hours of full extra. Around 1 pm went to Tantra, easy walk, quiet neighborhood, but I'd be aware at night. Saw 3 customers this time. Lineup was 15 girls, most were plain imo or had more an indigenous look, none that I really desired. Even choosing I was just trying to choose who would be the least disappointing. Then I saw the thick Venezuelan MILF with big fake tits with glasses and red lips. I really wanted something sportier, but she does thick MILF very well & was a fun performer. Still just went with 30 min instead of 60 min, 50 K for 30 and 60 K for kissing, BBBJ so 110 K for 30 min full service. Overall rate that exp 8/10 for value, performance.

Checked out LaCelestina site and wasn't impressed with the 4 girls that had available.

Will check out SF one more time to burn the last of my dinero, zero value to hold onto since my next destinations are Canada, Mexico, and Germany.

Went to SF around 530 pm Sat and it was way more lively on the streets than Wed. While it's definitely in the thick of things, I didn't feel particularly unsafe as long as I used street smarts. Lots of street girls, plenty of young natural ones. None my type until I was surprised to see a casa across the back from Paisa I think, which had 4-5 pornstar bodies that I'd rate as 8 or 9's, quoted 80 k for 15. I returned later on but they were gone.

Atonis: liked this spot because I felt less hounded by meseros. Because of this short trip I had no time to flirt and negotiate with everyone. Found this early 20's brunette Venezuelan, face like a hotter sultrier Vanessa Hudges, some nice large be cups and a great Latina ass, overall she's a 8. 5 and all natural. 30 K for the dance, very athletic. Did 100 K for 15 min then extended 100 K for another 15. Very satisfied. I had budget for 1 more so I moved on.

Troya: I liked Troya a lot if you want pornstar bodies. At least 6 or 7 girls I really wanted. Being new, I need familiar sights to settle down and Troya looked more established. It was busy so no meseros bothered me. I ended up walking up to a girl and taking her to an open table. This girl was a wet dream, face like Rebeca Linares, Colombian features amazing small, with great big soft fake tits and awesome large natural ass. For me she's a 9-9. 5. Dance was 50 K and rato was 120 K for 15. I didn't push for anything extra. Also very satisfied. I was purposely burning the last of my cash but if I had more time I would have splurged more in Troya, 3 some.

In summary.

Mezzanine x 1: Weak talent pool, but cheap so had decent time with a 7/10.

Tantra x 2: Lots of girls, cheap, but rarely one above a 8/10.

Atonis x 2: Pretty all natural hot girls on staff.

Troya x 1: Lots of enhanced girls.

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2825153]450 mil I. E 450,000 COP?[/QUOTE]Yes, that is correct.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2825533]I'm just putting down my report. There's a lot of content here, which is great, but with the search function not being the best it's overwhelming for me to map out every spot. I'm aware of Olimpo being nearby but the guys made no distinction of it since I ended engagements quick. If I was here longer or would make frequent trips I would scour the city but I found it reasonable to stick with the higher review, higher volume spots as ratings are subjective and I have very specific tastes. I want to limit every chance of getting burned with low quality talent.

With my last day, the top 3 girls I wanted from Eroticas weren't missing. Which is probably for the best, because if Danna was working I likely would've burned my remaining monger budget for a couple hours of full extra. Around 1 pm went to Tantra, easy walk, quiet neighborhood, but I'd be aware at night. Saw 3 customers this time. Lineup was 15 girls, most were plain imo or had more an indigenous look, none that I really desired. Even choosing I was just trying to choose who would be the least disappointing. Then I saw the thick Venezuelan MILF with big fake tits with glasses and red lips. I really wanted something sportier, but she does thick MILF very well & was a fun performer. Still just went with 30 min instead of 60 min, 50 K for 30 and 60 K for kissing, BBBJ so 110 K for 30 min full service. Overall rate that exp 8/10 for value, performance.

Checked out LaCelestina site and wasn't impressed with the 4 girls that had available.

Will check out SF one more time to burn the last of my dinero, zero value to hold onto since my next destinations are Canada, Mexico, and Germany.[/QUOTE]I don't understand why you want to burn the last of your dineros. I just left MDE with about 350 K. On the next trip whenever you take it if you kept pesos then you could skip the ATMs at the airport.

Under 50 K for a taxi in Bog and 98 K for one in MDE. The bonus for me was I got my pesos at around 4800 for a dollar and now it is just over 4100 per buck. After all if you kept 100 K it would cost you a little over $20 US money.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2825736]I don't understand why you want to burn the last of your dineros. I just left MDE with about 350 K. On the next trip whenever you take it if you kept pesos then you could skip the ATMs at the airport.

Under 50 K for a taxi in Bog and 98 K for one in MDE. The bonus for me was I got my pesos at around 4800 for a dollar and now it is just over 4100 per buck. After all if you kept 100 K it would cost you a little over $20 US money.[/QUOTE]Sure, I could spend less money but my goal was to have as many quality encounters as possible. I budgeted for it and a major reason I chose Bogota. I have zero use for COP after I leave. I will return debating MDE vs BOG eventually but no set trip for at least 4 months. My next trips are Toronto, Cancun, possibly Montreal vs AMS, Frankfurt, and Sao Paolo. So no use on sitting on cash despite the low USD equivalent. I have a Schwab ATM card so no ATM fees, I found bank atms easily in the airport where I'd rather take a large sum in a safe area near security guards and not worry about finding atms at Mt lodging. It's just my preference.

Another thing to note, I expected to see more Americans similar to as I read about Medellin Poblado being gringo district, but I rarely bumped into foreigners or strong English speakers outside of my hotel. Even the main street of SF clubs I expected to see some passport bros, but not one in the hundreds of people there.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2825616]Went to SF around 530 pm Sat and it was way more lively on the streets than Wed. While it's definitely in the thick of things, I didn't feel particularly unsafe as long as I used street smarts. Lots of street girls, plenty of young natural ones. None my type until I was surprised to see a casa across the back from Paisa I think, which had 4-5 pornstar bodies that I'd rate as 8 or 9's, quoted 80 k for 15. I returned later on but they were gone..... SEE ORIGINAL REPORT for the rest of post.[/QUOTE]YEs-- DJ! Yesterday early evening was a Fantastic time for Streetie Sweeties (Not to mention clubs too) - as Usual for Saturday-- I am writing the 'Streetie Sweetie Chronicles' or post soon to be published.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2825533]
With my last day, the top 3 girls I wanted from Eroticas weren't missing. Which is probably for the best, because if Danna was working I likely would've burned my remaining monger budget for a couple hours of full extra. Around 1 pm went to Tantra, easy walk, quiet neighborhood, but I'd be aware at night. Saw 3 customers this time. Lineup was 15 girls, most were plain imo or had more an indigenous look, none that I really desired. Even choosing I was just trying to choose who would be the least disappointing. Then I saw the thick Venezuelan MILF with big fake tits with glasses and red lips. I really wanted something sportier, but she does thick MILF very well & was a fun performer. Still just went with 30 min instead of 60 min, 50 K for 30 and 60 K for kissing, BBBJ so 110 K for 30 min full service. Overall rate that exp 8/10 for value, performance.
[/QUOTE]"50 K for 30 and 60 K for kissing, BBBJ so 110 K for 30 min full service".

Sorry to be daft but guessing the actual sex is included in the initial 50 k?

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2825882]"50 K for 30 and 60 K for kissing, BBBJ so 110 K for 30 min full service".

Sorry to be daft but guessing the actual sex is included in the initial 50 k?[/QUOTE]Correct, every encounter whether massage parlor, street girl, club girl, escort included covered sex (CF&S).

[QUOTE=TripCyclone;2821755]Hello all, doing a tour of Colombia in June to get a feel for the place and see if I might want to spend more time there next year. I have experience mongering in SEA, Tijuana, and a couple other places. Excited to see how Colombia stacks up. Looking forward to trying the agencies, independents, spas and clubs. I'm headed to Bogota later this week, then Cartagena, and finally Medellin. I'll be staying at the Hotel Estelar Parque de la 93 for my time in Bogota, which from some of my prior research seems to be guest friendly and in a nice area.

That's all for now- I've lurked this forum for quite a while and absorbed a lot of the info here, so thank you, and hopefully I can contribute back with some of my own experiences shortly.[/QUOTE]I didn't actually end up doing much mongering in Bogota as I wasn't feeling 100% (maybe the altitude?) But I thought I would update with what might be useful for the forum.

First off, I can confirm this hotel Estelar Parque de la 93 is guest friendly. The first girl I met from photoprepagos said the reception gave her some trouble but every girl after that was fine. I thought the hotel was good quality for the price too. I mostly used a scotiabank ATM nearby at Carrera 11 & Calle 92 to withdraw my pesos- it's secure and gives you your cash in 50 mils- as always decline the ATM conversion because your bank will give you a better rate. It's worth noting, I think the hotel will charge you if you see more than 1 girl in a day, although I didn't attempt this so can't confirm.

Secondly, if you're having some performance issues as I was, there is generic viagra available over the counter in Colombian pharmacies, ask for sildenafil cincuenta (50 MG), should only cost a couple bucks per pill.

Thirdly, something that surprised me about the agencies is how flaky they could be- some took hours to respond, one (Bogota Elite) didn't even respond at all (in retrospect, I think maybe because I contacted over whatsapp with a colombian number rather than a foreign number). I had the most luck with agencies by asking earlier in the day who was available rather than just requesting someone from their website.

My favorite girl in Bogota was a woman named Catalina with a bunch of Egyptian tattoos. I would link her ad but it doesn't seem to be up. If you like "alt girls" I can highly recommend!

Anyways, I'm in Medellin now, wish me luck.

[QUOTE=TripCyclone;2826216]

First off, I can confirm this hotel Estelar Parque de la 93 is guest friendly. The first girl I met from photoprepagos said the reception gave her some trouble but every girl after that was fine. I thought the hotel was good quality for the price too.

[/QUOTE]I can also confirm Hotel Estelar Parque 93 seems guest friendly. I was just there for 7 nights, although I only slept there 6 nights. I paid the extra night so I could check in immediately upon my arrival around 7 AM and not have to wait for official check in. I've tried avoiding the extra days at other hotels and was denied check in that early every time except once and that was because I had status at that hotel.

I tend to wife up in advance online and I reserved for two (there is a single rate that is slightly cheaper). My girl showed up at 10 AM and hotel staff brought her to my room. I signed for her and that was that. No extra fees. I was with her every day and she spent nights, so not like I had a new girl every day or so, or multiple girls a day. Even had her roommate over for the last full day to enjoy the pool and later enjoy some dinner. No extra fees then either, although we did check in advance. We bought some drinks at the hotel and were not disrespectful of others, although we had the rooftop pool mostly to ourselves for the afternoon.

I found the hotel good for the price and obviously in a great location. My findings are quite similar to Trip Cyclone.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2825736]I don't understand why you want to burn the last of your dineros. I just left MDE with about 350 K. On the next trip whenever you take it if you kept pesos then you could skip the ATMs at the airport.

Under 50 K for a taxi in Bog and 98 K for one in MDE. The bonus for me was I got my pesos at around 4800 for a dollar and now it is just over 4100 per buck. After all if you kept 100 K it would cost you a little over $20 US money.[/QUOTE]Thank you, I have been preaching this over & over & I find it amazing the amount of people who have no clue about the movement of one currency v. Another. How hard is it to keep a couple 100 dollars worth of 4800:1 pesos in your passport folder or wherever for the next trip, especially if you know you are coming back!

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2826765]Thank you, I have been preaching this over & over & I find it amazing the amount of people who have no clue about the movement of one currency v. Another. How hard is it to keep a couple 100 dollars worth of 4800:1 pesos in your passport folder or wherever for the next trip, especially if you know you are coming back!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. I bring my leftover COP back home and use it on the next trip. I've got about $100 worth in my drawer right now. Next trip I have to get rid of the coins. Perhaps remember to carry a handful with me each time I go out and give them to the first mother holding a kid and asking for help that I see.

I'm not about to count out change to pay in cash for a beer!

[QUOTE=ElMechanico;2826765]Thank you, I have been preaching this over & over & I find it amazing the amount of people who have no clue about the movement of one currency v. Another. How hard is it to keep a couple 100 dollars worth of 4800:1 pesos in your passport folder or wherever for the next trip, especially if you know you are coming back!

El Mechanico.[/QUOTE]I wrote that I don't know when I'll be back to Colombia, at best in 3 months and but more likely 6 months. Being there for only 3 days I wanted to make as much use as the time as possible. So it was burning in the sense of wasting, it was the purpose of the trip. And I'm glad I did because I ended up having a much better time at SF the 2nd time. I'm just giving my report. I have an fee free ATM card that I can use at any airport ATM when I land so there's no benefit for me to sit on $100.

Hello Team:

I'm going to Bogota in a month. I need help please. I'm looking to stay at a nice hotel that maybe doesn't allow Chicas but is in the happening area. My theory is that if I meet a girl I will just take her to a love motel. I'm not opposed to actually meeting a non pro and having a relationship. Yes I'm crazy. I will be in Bogota for 4 days. I'm looking to practice Spanish and learn about Bogota. I study a Martial Art and I'm going to contact a school in Bogota and request to take a class or if that's not possible at least watch. I'm cautious about Bogota and all the dangers but I live for adventure and I'm going hell or high water. I'm reading every post here and will circle back. I haven't drank alcohol in a while. But when I get to Bogota I'm going to party a bit, not stupid drunk and I don't do drugs. I believe that eagles fly alone but I'm not opposed to making friends.

Peace!!

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2826827]I wrote that I don't know when I'll be back to Colombia, at best in 3 months and but more likely 6 months. Being there for only 3 days I wanted to make as much use as the time as possible. So it was burning in the sense of wasting, it was the purpose of the trip. And I'm glad I did because I ended up having a much better time at SF the 2nd time. I'm just giving my report. I have an fee free ATM card that I can use at any airport ATM when I land so there's no benefit for me to sit on $100.[/QUOTE]What I tried to point out is the advantage of keeping enough pesos for the taxi ride from the airport. After waiting forever to get away from customs, I don't want to wait in line at a airport ATM. I have had to put up with locals using 2 or 3 ATM cards as each one is short of funds. You don't have to sit on $100. A little over $20 gets you a taxi from the airport.

You did a good job with your reports but don't take it so personal when fellows respond to your report.

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2827074]Hello Team:

I'm going to Bogota in a month. I need help please. I'm looking to stay at a nice hotel that maybe doesn't allow Chicas but is in the happening area. My theory is that if I meet a girl I will just take her to a love motel. I'm not opposed to actually meeting a non pro and having a relationship. Yes I'm crazy. I will be in Bogota for 4 days. I'm looking to practice Spanish and learn about Bogota. I study a Martial Art and I'm going to contact a school in Bogota and request to take a class or if that's not possible at least watch. I'm cautious about Bogota and all the dangers but I live for adventure and I'm going hell or high water. I'm reading every post here and will circle back. I haven't drank alcohol in a while. But when I get to Bogota I'm going to party a bit, not stupid drunk and I don't do drugs. I believe that eagles fly alone but I'm not opposed to making friends.

Peace!![/QUOTE]Chapinero, in the 2nd half north within 10 min drive of Zona Rosa / T is where I'd recommend if you want to party with non pros. I had a great safe time in those clubs bars as a clear foreigner with weak Spanish. Tho unless you are Casanova may be tough to find a non pro relationship in 4 days as the 20's crowd were mostly in groups. If your girl has a legit ID, pro or not I'd imagine the hotel is ok if you're not blatant. Martial art is good, but can only do so much if you're sucker punched or 2+ guys. I'm somewhat built and box but was still high alert from Zona Rosa to SF. Situational awareness, that 5 seconds before is more important if you need to put space. As well as not sticking out or not looking lost. It can be jarring when that 1st group of meseros swarms you. I only drank water in SF as alcohol hurts my performance & kept interactions for the bill low.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2827245]Chapinero, in the 2nd half north within 10 min drive of Zona Rosa / T is where I'd recommend if you want to party with non pros. I had a great safe time in those clubs bars as a clear foreigner with weak Spanish. Tho unless you are Casanova may be tough to find a non pro relationship in 4 days as the 20's crowd were mostly in groups. If your girl has a legit ID, pro or not I'd imagine the hotel is ok if you're not blatant. Martial art is good, but can only do so much if you're sucker punched or 2+ guys. I'm somewhat built and box but was still high alert from Zona Rosa to SF. Situational awareness, that 5 seconds before is more important if you need to put space. As well as not sticking out or not looking lost. It can be jarring when that 1st group of meseros swarms you. I only drank water in SF as alcohol hurts my performance & kept interactions for the bill low.[/QUOTE]I booked the hotel. I'm staying at the Four Seasons. I'm not bragging but I sleep on the floor at my house. No back issues or anything I just sleep better that way. Unless I bring a chica back to the hotel I'm sleeping on the floor at the Four Seasons. I talked with them and it's a $100 dollars to bring a guest. I go to Spanish Church in the US. I plan on attending Church somewhere in Bogota on the Sunday. I train Krav Maga and I don't have any illusions that I'm tough. I'm humble and if I get my ass kicked it wouldn't be the 3rd or 4th time. I'm worried about getting killed. I'm going to talk to the concierge as well I'm sure they can help me.

I'm going to try my Spanish and just be a gentleman. In my opinion Colombian women are the prettiest in the world. It's also pretty on the inside and out. Even if I don't hook up (I'm betting I will) maybe I can get their number and come back.

Thank you for your advice; duly noted.

Had a great time in this city, visiting about a month after my first visit to Colombia in Medellin. Mostly stream of consciousness and random thoughts follow.

Tantra Spa and Mezzanine. 1 session at each place. Good one at Mezzanine, mediocre at Tantra. About 10 girls at Tantra, 7/10 max. Didn't even ask for lineup at Mezzanine as I was happy with the first girl I saw.

Eroticas Bogota. Used them 3 times, got the girl I asked for only once. However the two replacements were both more than acceptable and matched the body type, natural vs. Enhanced, services, and price of the ones I asked for—not sure if this was deliberate by the agency or I just got lucky. All arrived around 10 minutes before / after the scheduled time. Whatsapp receptionist was responsive. All the girls were early 20's students, provided great service, enjoyed themselves (or put on a convincing enough act to be indistinguishable from the real thing), went to the gym and were fit. Two had no kids, one had one but I couldn't tell. Bodies 8-9/10, faces 7-8/10. Would use this agency again despite them not sending who I asked for simply because the quality was so good. Would definitely try some other agencies as well. I think Bogota is good for escorts due to the size of the city and the competition so if you're willing to pay more than brothel / club girls you can have a very good time.

Ibis Museo. Great location with oxxo, banks, crepes / waffles, and coffee less than 5 minute walk, clean, hot showers, relatively quiet. Walked 10 minutes to official Claro store for SIM card since I was worried my old phone's IMEI was locked from my last Colombia trip—the employee there said she registered it for me. Brought girls back to hotel twice. First time was no problem, second time reception called me saying something about an extra guest. I told them I had no problem before, they said something I couldn't make out, and hung up. Girl showed up a few minutes later and said she had no problem. So not sure what happened. Second time was a few hours before checkout deadline. I had initially reserved the room for 2 guests. Next time someone stays there and brings chicas back, let us know if there are any problems. Because apart from that, the hotel was great.

Santa Fe at night. Took the Woodman tour, friendly helpful guy with a lot of knowledge. Definitely helped me be more comfortable there because it is a very sketchy area. By myself, I only felt relatively safe on the streets that were busy with people. Dark streets with few people I purposefully avoided walking down. Police vehicles patrol regularly. My trip was during the week so I didn't get the full effect, but even then it was a huge number of sex workers. I can imagine how wild it would be on the weekend. The SF clubs were all fairly similarly set up as a standard strip club / brothel. I had no problems getting Uber to / from SF and my hotel.

Bogota. Cool and mild, not much rain while I was there. Traffic as bad or worse than Medellin and driving just as chaotic. Took Uber / didi everywhere, still cheap. Only found the time to visit two museums, Gold and National. Both worth the visit and next time I'm back I'll go to the ones I missed as there are many. Finally tried crepes and waffles, now I see why it gets so busy. El Dorado Airport took forever to get through immigration for my departing flight, reminds me why I leave more than enough time for the airport so I don't have to stress as much.

Will I go back? Yes. Bogota or Medellin? I liked them both, but my next Colombia trip (whenever that will be) will be to Bogota.

I always bring back around $1 million COP with me so on my return I have plenty of funds for the first few days without having to worry about exchanging dollars.

[QUOTE=Guerinto;2826779]I totally agree. I bring my leftover COP back home and use it on the next trip. I've got about $100 worth in my drawer right now. Next trip I have to get rid of the coins. Perhaps remember to carry a handful with me each time I go out and give them to the first mother holding a kid and asking for help that I see.

I'm not about to count out change to pay in cash for a beer![/QUOTE]

My first trip to Colombia was to Bogota, in 2008,13 years ago and I have been going there for 4 to 5 times a year, sometimes more. Met an amazing woman, 5 years ago thru a girl in reception at my hotel. On this fateful trip My wingman canceled last minute so being by myself I ask the receptionist if she would like to go to dinner, she had to work but introduced me to one of her classmates. That was my lucky day, a beautiful, very intelligent 4. 6 GPA STEM major. No makeup, no silicone, dosn't smoke or drink yet extremely beautiful. And she taught herself English BTW.

She applied for a 10 year visa a few months after we met and was instantly granted a visa. We have been alternating visits back and forth since. From a good family, poor but hard working. A family I will be proud to be a member of next year when we marry and live in the USA after graduation from the University National, When I first started mongering many years ago, thoughts of meeting a woman of substance like this wasn't even a thought but life can throw you a curve now and then but you never know. So after many many trips to mostly Latin American countries and many many women, I met the one. Like most guys on the board I repeated the same old mantras, "there only working girls" "don't fall in love with a piece of ass" "If you fall in love in Colombia, your falling in love by yourself. ". bla bla bla but beware Latin Woman make amazing wives. I have been mostly faithful for the time with her, still have a few specials 'friends' I text and see once in a while but I'm always happier when I'm with her so if the right one comes along. You are done.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2827554]My first trip to Colombia was to Bogota, in 2008,13 years ago and I have been going there for 4 to 5 times a year, sometimes more. Met an amazing woman, 5 years ago thru a girl in reception at my hotel. On this fateful trip My wingman canceled last minute so being by myself I ask the receptionist if she would like to go to dinner, she had to work but introduced me to one of her classmates. That was my lucky day, a beautiful, very intelligent 4. 6 GPA STEM major. No makeup, no silicone, dosn't smoke or drink yet extremely beautiful. And she taught herself English BTW.

She applied for a 10 year visa a few months after we met and was instantly granted a visa. We have been alternating visits back and forth since. From a good family, poor but hard working. A family I will be proud to be a member of next year when we marry and live in the USA after graduation from the University National, When I first started mongering many years ago, thoughts of meeting a woman of substance like this wasn't even a thought but life can throw you a curve now and then but you never know. So after many many trips to mostly Latin American countries and many many women, I met the one. Like most guys on the board I repeated the same old mantras, "there only working girls" "don't fall in love with a piece of ass" "If you fall in love in Colombia, your falling in love by yourself. ". bla bla bla but beware Latin Woman make amazing wives. I have been mostly faithful for the time with her, still have a few specials 'friends' I text and see once in a while but I'm always happier when I'm with her so if the right one comes along. You are done.[/QUOTE]I do agree if you meet the right one things can progress.

This is why I now prefer Bogota. The people tend to be a bit more educated or have more class sorta speak.

I feel like at this point in medellin almost every girl will have some background or history with prostitution. And that will simply never work. Their minds are already too corrupted and damaged.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2827554]
I'm always happier when I'm with her.[/QUOTE]Happiness is the whole point. Congratulations!

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2827554]Like most guys on the board I repeated the same old mantras, "there only working girls" "don't fall in love with a piece of ass" "If you fall in love in Colombia, your falling in love by yourself. ". bla bla bla but beware Latin Woman make amazing wives.[/QUOTE]Of course those mantras are needed to be used for hookers. The problem is when guys only go out with hookers then they may fall like that, trying to substitute the hooker for a normal chick, because frankly everyone needs or wants love. And they also do not realize regular people who are not hookers do exist. They live through the hoarhouse and think the entire world is the same. When you get out and meet and build relationships with some normal people, you no longer need those mantras.

Leave at the hotel or carry on you?

Mainly passport and laptop.

Staying at Hotel Tequendama. No idea what to expect in terms of room security.

any common phrases to get one going?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2827557]

This is why I now prefer Bogota. The people tend to be a bit more educated or have more class sorta speak.

I feel like at this point in medellin almost every girl will have some background or history with prostitution. And that will simply never work. Their minds are already too corrupted and damaged.[/QUOTE]I completely agree with this sentiment.

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2827644]Leave at the hotel or carry on you?

Mainly passport and laptop.

Staying at Hotel Tequendama. No idea what to expect in terms of room security.

any common phrases to get one going?[/QUOTE]If you lose your Passport it can be a nightmare getting a new one. So you can travel to go home. Take a real good photo copy of your passport preferably color, before you leave and carry that with you. Make sure you have a good place to leave you valuables in the room. Room safes are usually good but some employees can get into your safe. I usually lock it in my luggage but they can take your luggage, so there's really no good answer. Also don't fall in love with a prepago, Like Mr I said below, once a woman crosses that line to have sex for money, it's difficult for them to go back. Although not impossible. Lots of guys have paid the price for this. If you research gringos killing local pros it happens. They find out they have a boyfriend or continue hooking after you go back home etc. There have been a few stories like that here on the board. Years ago when I traveled a lot to Costa Rica.. A guy threw his Tica girlfriend off the 6th floor balcony in the Del Rey. So have fun, be safe, don't fall in love.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2827720]If you lose your Passport it can be a nightmare getting a new one. So you can travel to go home. Take a real good photo copy of your passport preferably color, before you leave and carry that with you. Make sure you have a good place to leave you valuables in the room. Room safes are usually good but some employees can get into your safe. I usually lock it in my luggage but they can take your luggage, so there's really no good answer. Also don't fall in love with a prepago, Like Mr I said below, once a woman crosses that line to have sex for money, it's difficult for them to go back. Although not impossible. Lots of guys have paid the price for this. If you research gringos killing local pros it happens. They find out they have a boyfriend or continue hooking after you go back home etc. There have been a few stories like that here on the board. Years ago when I traveled a lot to Costa Rica.. A guy threw his Tica girlfriend off the 6th floor balcony in the Del Rey. So have fun, be safe, don't fall in love.[/QUOTE]Do the copy of your passport after you get to Colombia since you need a copy of the page with your entry stamp. That is your permission to be in the country, so it is as important as the main page of your passport.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2827557]I do agree if you meet the right one things can progress.

This is why I now prefer Bogota. The people tend to be a bit more educated or have more class sorta speak.

I feel like at this point in medellin almost every girl will have some background or history with prostitution. And that will simply never work. Their minds are already too corrupted and damaged.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Elvis2008;2827677]I completely agree with this sentiment.[/QUOTE]Your spitting the truth, here in Medellin this is now ingrained in their DNA / culture, this is to say just about every chica who is not from an estrato 5 or 6 has or will have no issues getting paid for giving their bodies for rato. This is the way it is.

They have been giving it up to the local barrio ladrones since very young for nothing more than to hang out and get some rum or tusi so why not get paid for it.

TTM.

Anyone is having trouble completing the pre-entry Check-Mig form? I have been trying since yesterday and it's erroring out at the end with "Bad Gateway Error". Completed the same form any times before whiteout any issue.

Google also took to me another site that requires $75 processing fee for a visa to Colombia? Never seen this before. I am just afraid to take the flight tomorrow and get stuck hours at Bogota airport trying to complete this stupid form at the airport.

Please let me know if anyone is experiencing the same issue?

Thanks.

Georges.

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2827259]I booked the hotel. I'm staying at the Four Seasons. I'm not bragging but I sleep on the floor at my house. No back issues or anything I just sleep better that way. Unless I bring a chica back to the hotel I'm sleeping on the floor at the Four Seasons. I talked with them and it's a $100 dollars to bring a guest. I go to Spanish Church in the US. I plan on attending Church somewhere in Bogota on the Sunday. I train Krav Maga and I don't have any illusions that I'm tough. I'm humble and if I get my ass kicked it wouldn't be the 3rd or 4th time. I'm worried about getting killed. I'm going to talk to the concierge as well I'm sure they can help me.

I'm going to try my Spanish and just be a gentleman. In my opinion Colombian women are the prettiest in the world. It's also pretty on the inside and out. Even if I don't hook up (I'm betting I will) maybe I can get their number and come back.

Thank you for your advice; duly noted.[/QUOTE]That 4 seasons area is nice, I was 2 blocks off. I encourage situational awareness, within the usual recommended areas its the same as ud do in Miami Atlanta NYC. I almost let fear ruin the trip for me, and enjoyed myself when I relaxed and it didn't but it's danger on a pedestal. Definitely nuance and of course better with a trustworthy partner. Woodman helped me calm down my 1st arrival, then when settled I was fine solo several hours late in SF Sat night.

Hello,

I was in Bogota last month for the first time. For me to have a good session, I need a BBBJ. I was surprised to find out that on the streets of Santa Fe, it is mostly off the menu even if I offer additional for that. I found only ONE girl who agreed to it among about the dozen I asked. All my mongering was hence limited to Tantra Spa where BBBJ was included in the fee.

I am curious: is it me or is it the way it is for everyone. (The girls in clubs seem to be willing to do that for a really high price).

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Norp1054;2827371]Had a great time in this city, visiting about a month after my first visit to Colombia in Medellin. Mostly stream of consciousness and random thoughts follow.

Tantra Spa and Mezzanine. 1 session at each place. Good one at Mezzanine, mediocre at Tantra. About 10 girls at Tantra, 7/10 max. Didn't even ask for lineup at Mezzanine as I was happy with the first girl I saw.

Eroticas Bogota. Used them 3 times, got the girl I asked for only once. However the two replacements were both more than acceptable and matched the body type, natural vs. Enhanced, services, and price of the ones I asked fornot sure if this was deliberate by the agency or I just got lucky. All arrived around 10 minutes before / after the scheduled time. Whatsapp receptionist was responsive. All the girls were early 20's students, provided great service, enjoyed themselves (or put on a convincing enough act to be indistinguishable from the real thing), went to the gym and were fit. Two had no kids, one had one but I couldn't tell. Bodies 8-9/10, faces 7-8/10. Would use this agency again despite them not sending who I asked for simply because the quality was so good. Would definitely try some other agencies as well. I think Bogota is good for escorts due to the size of the city and the competition so if you're willing to pay more than brothel / club girls you can have a very good time.

Ibis Museo. Great location with oxxo, banks, crepes / waffles, and coffee less than 5 minute walk, clean, hot showers, relatively quiet. Walked 10 minutes to official Claro store for SIM card since I was worried my old phone's IMEI was locked from my last Colombia tripthe employee there said she registered it for me. Brought girls back to hotel twice. First time was no problem, second time reception called me saying something about an extra guest. I told them I had no problem before, they said something I couldn't make out, and hung up. Girl showed up a few minutes later and said she had no problem. So not sure what happened. Second time was a few hours before checkout deadline. I had initially reserved the room for 2 guests. Next time someone stays there and brings chicas back, let us know if there are any problems. Because apart from that, the hotel was great.

Santa Fe at night. Took the Woodman tour, friendly helpful guy with a lot of knowledge. Definitely helped me be more comfortable there because it is a very sketchy area. By myself, I only felt relatively safe on the streets that were busy with people. Dark streets with few people I purposefully avoided walking down. Police vehicles patrol regularly. My trip was during the week so I didn't get the full effect, but even then it was a huge number of sex workers. I can imagine how wild it would be on the weekend. The SF clubs were all fairly similarly set up as a standard strip club / brothel. I had no problems getting Uber to / from SF and my hotel.

Bogota. Cool and mild, not much rain while I was there. Traffic as bad or worse than Medellin and driving just as chaotic. Took Uber / didi everywhere, still cheap. Only found the time to visit two museums, Gold and National. Both worth the visit and next time I'm back I'll go to the ones I missed as there are many. Finally tried crepes and waffles, now I see why it gets so busy. El Dorado Airport took forever to get through immigration for my departing flight, reminds me why I leave more than enough time for the airport so I don't have to stress as much.

Will I go back? Yes. Bogota or Medellin? I liked them both, but my next Colombia trip (whenever that will be) will be to Bogota.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, I nearly did the exact same as you.

Eroticas, did you get the impression you could haggle a cheaper price when they changed the girl? I had 1 girl who was who I asked for, she showed up 25 min early and I got the notice from them within 3 min of her arrival. Matched the same type of physical looks you described of your girls. Aside from Danna who's like 700 K / HR, even their mid / upper tier girls come out same price per hour as the hot ones in Santa Fe (my SF girls with 90-110 K for 15-20 min), the difference well made up by the included Eroticas BBBJ, the conveninece / quiet / cleanliness of your own hotel. My next trip I'll just do Ibis Museo as it's close to SF and nice enough where Eroticas girls will still come.

Also I have TMobile and had no issues with their Intl Pass on my main phone & so it's nice to have that convenience of not needing a new SIM. Plus if the Pass doesn't work Tmobiles refunded me if I ***** to them about it and then you can use that on a local sim. But of course there's value for sim on a burner phone.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2827745]Do the copy of your passport after you get to Colombia since you need a copy of the page with your entry stamp. That is your permission to be in the country, so it is as important as the main page of your passport.[/QUOTE]My feelings (not facts), just how I have a couple times got bullied by Customs in US as a citizen, in Colombia my concern would be that agents especially if your Spanish is poor could give you shit without that original passport. Of course pics, & copies (in case they decide it has to be paper) are the next best thing, and to make some contact with the Embassy to name drop that the US govt is aware for added gravitas. When I landed with another random gringo, my digital immigration form was fine but he had to show his copy.

[QUOTE=Georgest;2827801]Anyone is having trouble completing the pre-entry Check-Mig form? I have been trying since yesterday and it's erroring out at the end with "Bad Gateway Error". Completed the same form any times before whiteout any issue.

Google also took to me another site that requires $75 processing fee for a visa to Colombia? Never seen this before. I am just afraid to take the flight tomorrow and get stuck hours at Bogota airport trying to complete this stupid form at the airport.

Please let me know if anyone is experiencing the same issue?

Thanks.

Georges.[/QUOTE]I remember having to fill out the online form multiple times because of timeout errors. It will be clear when it does work because you get an error email.

Should be no additional charge. Try every hour.

Hi Never got the confirmation on email. I carried a printout of the confirmation page and showed it when it was asked.

[QUOTE=Georgest;2827801]Anyone is having trouble completing the pre-entry Check-Mig form? I have been trying since yesterday and it's erroring out at the end with "Bad Gateway Error". Completed the same form any times before whiteout any issue.

Google also took to me another site that requires $75 processing fee for a visa to Colombia? Never seen this before. I am just afraid to take the flight tomorrow and get stuck hours at Bogota airport trying to complete this stupid form at the airport.

Please let me know if anyone is experiencing the same issue?

Thanks.

Georges.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2827720]If you lose your Passport it can be a nightmare getting a new one. So you can travel to go home. Take a real good photo copy of your passport preferably color, before you leave and carry that with you. .[/QUOTE]Another option is to have a Passport Card. While it doesn't carry the weight of the passport I've found that it is recognized everywhere. Plus mine makes me look like an ex special forces dude LOL! Seriously though, it's like $30 more bucks to spend when you're renewing your passport and I've found it well worth it.

Anyone ever used them? Not an agency site like mileroticos. Is it a scam or do you get the girl shown. Looks reasonable otherwise.

Recently I have been banging girls outside of RedLight SF proper--I mean hot milfs and a nice young 21 yr old who looks like a Mayan Princessa.

I used to bang a few girls on 18th street yrs ago-- just recently I have returned.

MILF Hunting;.

Very close to where I live I met a pretty hot one a while ago and she took care of me good-- BBBJ and very compliant Good Sex --The MILF Streetie Sweeties know How to Suck Cock-- I Mean like LipLock BBBJ, I love Gagging these girls and they smile-.

And Tonight Banging in the ghetto again-- There are several hotels-- On I bang in is a 1 story old ass building-- Bolivar may have sessioned there.

Tonight I banged this really hot MILF Jennifer--tall 30 yrs old, long thick hair -very pretty. 25 mil--She BBBJs me and I gag her--and than I bang her hard in 2-3 positions and she loves being man-handled, my kind of girl. I have been Banging her for over a month-- I can actually see her from my window sometimes-- Super convenient cheap thrills.

2 nights ago* I met a really hot 21 yr old Tatiana, She looks like a Mayan Princessa--Petite nice tight body--* Tonight after a bit of work on my computer it was time for round 2. I went out looking for her and found her right away in this little honkey tonk bar-- on Calle 18-- She is so hot and her pussy was so tight -- it was all covered -- We got high and I was making her scream-- I got to talk her into BBBJ sometime soon.

It's so cheap--Sometimes (like the other night) I will bang a hot streetie Sweetie* up in SF for $12 --have a cup of joe and walk over to my block and bang another hottie for $6- $7 the other night I banged 1 SF girl and than 2 others for $13 (BOTH- 1st Bang with Tatiana) - so $25 for 3 girls and one was a GFE Quickee and did I say the MILF Streetie Sweeties know How to Suck Cock-.

I Mean like LipLock BBJ, Gagg these girls and they smile-.

Writing this stuff make me want to run out and bang my princessa one more time-- her pussy is so tight!!

I love living here-- My Sex Addiction is fed so well-- Coming soon-- How to Streetie Sweetie or The Streetie Sweetie Chronicle-.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2827843]Hello,

I was in Bogota last month for the first time. For me to have a good session, I need a BBBJ. I was surprised to find out that on the streets of Santa Fe, it is mostly off the menu even if I offer additional for that. I found only ONE girl who agreed to it among about the dozen I asked. All my mongering was hence limited to Tantra Spa where BBBJ was included in the fee.

I am curious: is it me or is it the way it is for everyone. (The girls in clubs seem to be willing to do that for a really high price).

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I get it alot because I have a stable of girls LOL I mean They know what time it is!!

I'll say '¿Tu cuca Esta Lista Bebe?' I got a whole parade going on-.

I'll be gagging them and say 'Tu boca es muy linda con me pene' or De todo-- tratalo' and they smile-.

Santa Fe My Pussy Paradise.

It came to my ears that Routard passed away? Is that true?

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2827974]Recently I have been banging girls outside of RedLight SF proper--I mean hot milfs and a nice young 21 yr old who looks like a Mayan Princessa.

I used to bang a few girls on 18th street yrs ago-- just recently I have returned.

MILF Hunting;.

Very close to where I live I met a pretty hot one a while ago and she took care of me good-- BBBJ and very compliant Good Sex --The MILF Streetie Sweeties know How to Suck Cock-- I Mean like LipLock BBBJ, I love Gagging these girls and they smile-.

And Tonight Banging in the ghetto again-- There are several hotels-- On I bang in is a 1 story old ass building-- Bolivar may have sessioned there..[/QUOTE]The Tall Man has had the pleasure of partying in SF with Woodman and he spits the truth. I was last in SF a few months back and needing a change of pace from my stable of young and sexy paisa girls here in Medellin.

Happy Fathers Day to all everywhere!

TTM.

NOTE Administrator, can you please release me from having to review and approve my posts, please! Check your records that over 3 weeks ago I sent in $45.00 USD in cash for 2 year subscription with the proper form and followed all instructions, thanks!

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2827974]Recently I have been banging girls outside of RedLight SF proper--I mean hot milfs and a nice young 21 yr old who looks like a Mayan Princessa.

I used to bang a few girls on 18th street yrs ago-- just recently I have returned.

MILF Hunting;.

Very close to where I live I met a pretty hot one a while ago and she took care of me good-- BBBJ and very compliant Good Sex --The MILF Streetie Sweeties know How to Suck Cock-- I Mean like LipLock BBBJ, I love Gagging these girls and they smile-.

And Tonight Banging in the ghetto again-- There are several hotels-- On I bang in is a 1 story old ass building-- Bolivar may have sessioned there.

Tonight I banged this really hot MILF Jennifer--tall 30 yrs old, long thick hair -very pretty. 25 mil--She BBBJs me and I gag her--and than I bang her hard in 2-3 positions and she loves being man-handled, my kind of girl. I have been Banging her for over a month-- I can actually see her from my window sometimes-- Super convenient cheap thrills.

2 nights ago* I met a really hot 21 yr old Tatiana, She looks like a Mayan Princessa--Petite nice tight body--* Tonight after a bit of work on my computer it was time for round 2. I went out looking for her and found her right away in this little honkey tonk bar-- on Calle 18-- She is so hot and her pussy was so tight -- it was all covered -- We got high and I was making her scream-- I got to talk her into BBBJ sometime soon.

It's so cheap--Sometimes (like the other night) I will bang a hot streetie Sweetie* up in SF for $12 --have a cup of joe and walk over to my block and bang another hottie for $6- $7 the other night I banged 1 SF girl and than 2 others for $13 (BOTH- 1st Bang with Tatiana) - so $25 for 3 girls and one was a GFE Quickee and did I say the MILF Streetie Sweeties know How to Suck Cock-.

I Mean like LipLock BBJ, Gagg these girls and they smile-.

Writing this stuff make me want to run out and bang my princessa one more time-- her pussy is so tight!!

I love living here-- My Sex Addiction is fed so well-- Coming soon-- How to Streetie Sweetie or The Streetie Sweetie Chronicle-.[/QUOTE]I have to say, I've been in Medellin for a couple weeks now and having a blast.

Took a quick 2 day jaunt to Bogota and couldn't wait to get back to Medellin!

Sante Fe on Friday night was horrible.

Maybe 1 or 2 OK looking girls, and the weather is depressing as well.

Back in Medellin and happy.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2828128]I have to say, I've been in Medellin for a couple weeks now and having a blast.

Took a quick 2 day jaunt to Bogota and couldn't wait to get back to Medellin!

Sante Fe on Friday night was horrible.

Maybe 1 or 2 OK looking girls, and the weather is depressing as well.

Back in Medellin and happy.[/QUOTE]The truth is, after chatting with many Chamas (Venezolanas) I see now in Medellin that used to hang in Bogota; the word got out of the gringo invasion in Medellin and Cartagena as well.

The hot ones, the smart ones, took off for a better payout.

Can't blame them.

Santa Fe used to rock! Lots of hot street Chamas. Unfortunately it's not the case now.

They've mostly run to Medellin, Cartagena or the US border hoping to enter.

I don't really know much about about the casa scene there, not my thing.

Also the clubs in Santa Fe and their 15 minute window for a sex session is nuts, LOL.

IMHO.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2828128]I have to say, I've been in Medellin for a couple weeks now and having a blast.

Took a quick 2 day jaunt to Bogota and couldn't wait to get back to Medellin!.[/QUOTE]Good For you! I have been with 3 members last week and They were very happy-.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2828128]I have to say, I've been in Medellin for a couple weeks now and having a blast.

Took a quick 2 day jaunt to Bogota and couldn't wait to get back to Medellin!.[/QUOTE]Good for you! I have been with 3 members last week and They were very happy here in Bogota as reflected in recent reports.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2828135]Also the clubs in Santa Fe and their 15 minute window for a sex session is nuts, LOL.
[/QUOTE]Dang, that's short. Is that the standard across all SF clubs?

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2828028]It came to my ears that Routard passed away? Is that true?[/QUOTE]I hope this is not the case. His reports and pointers were very handy for my first trip to Bogota few years back. RIP.

Well I will be wrapping my trip here in next couple of days. In last few days been to Trantra spa couple of times. Found value for money but you won't find stunners here. Took a slim tall MILF for both times, she gave me great BBBJ no DFK though but overall a great session for 50 mil.

Met a chick I got in contact through seeking. This could be a good option if your staying here long. The cost was high but the session was for more than two hours for couple of rounds, young 20 something, good look and great service. Her oral skills were great.

Went to SF on Friday, took a tour from Woodman. The tour helped me in getting familiarized with the area. He took me to clubs and street. Met other ISG member there as well.

Had couple of sessions there one was good other not so much. No BBBJ here everything is covered but one session was worth it. Cost quoted was 100 plus mil, you need to negotiate a bit if you are quoted high I guess. Friday night had more action than Saturday night. Most of the girls had silicon, but manage to find a petite all natural on Friday. Had a good session with lots of DFK.

HH.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2828149]Good for you! I have been with 3 members last week and They were very happy here in Bogota as reflected in recent reports.[/QUOTE]The thing is, anyone who needs a tour, is inexperienced and just doesn't know any better.

Anywhere is better than pussy prison.

You can blah blah blah all you want, but it's true, you know it, it’s obviously gone down hill and the girls will tell you the same.

Got nothing against you, however, it's not like you don't have a motive too keep Bogota tours going.

Bogota is cold and clammy, The girls give you 10 minutes in the clubs. Yet cost 100. Most are mean and just about quick cash, no love, I circled the streets 10 times. Found maybe one doable. NO need for a tour, strip clubs are pushy. Few hotties, but too quick. I got out of dodge. And was happy.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2828100]The Tall Man has had the pleasure of partying in SF with Woodman and he spits the truth. I was last in SF a few months back and needing a change of pace from my stable of young and sexy paisa girls here in Medellin.
[/QUOTE]I'm sure he's great to party with, however, his truth about hot SF street scene is a far stretch.

I hope a gazillion guys go to Bogota, get the tour, and enjoy.

I'm just stating what I saw. This past weekend!

I've been in Colombia for over 20 years. Not exactly a newbie and I have no ulterior motive.

I could care less where people go. Just reporting.

[QUOTE=ElBacano;2828205]Bogota is cold and clammy, The girls give you 10 minutes in the clubs. Yet cost 100. Most are mean and just about quick cash, no love, I circled the streets 10 times. Found maybe one doable. NO need for a tour, strip clubs are pushy. Few hotties, but too quick. I got out of dodge. And was happy.[/QUOTE]I love Bogota weather-- I grew up in LA and I do not miss the hot sticky weather kinda like Medeilin-.

Sorry you had a bad experience too-- shit happens I guess. Never heard of 10 minute sessions in clubs-- I and many others have had much better experiences-- as recounted in many posts.

Also many Hot SGs and club girls-- if you go on a normal Friday Saturday-- you can see 250+ girls and 60%+ are Hot-- just my and many others experience.

Good Luck in the future.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2828207]I'm sure he's great to party with, however, his truth about hot SF street scene is a far stretch.

I hope a gazillion guys go to Bogota, get the tour, and enjoy.

I'm just stating what I saw. This past weekend!

I've been in Colombia for over 20 years. Not exactly a newbie and I have no ulterior motive.

I could care less where people go. Just reporting.[/QUOTE]I'm not so fun to party with-- I am Fun when there are lotsa really hot girls around which is the case usually.

Sorry you had a bad time.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2828202]The thing is, anyone who needs a tour, is inexperienced and just doesn't know any better.

Anywhere is better than pussy prison.

You can blah blah blah all you want, but it's true, you know it, its obviously gone down hill and the girls will tell you the same.

Got nothing against you, however, it's not like you don't have a motive too keep Bogota tours going.[/QUOTE]I would say 80% or so of the guys I have shown around are experienced -- They just want the down-low on SF and the vast majority are happy.

-- I think that there are plenty of girls Hot Girls in SF -- -- I don't think it has gone downhill-- except it's a little slower due to the economy.

Sorry for your bad experience-.

I love Santa Fe-- It continues feeds my sexual addiction well .

I love Bogota, Met Woodman once many years ago, maybe 10 yrs or so, I don't remember. I never sessioned in SF and never went back.

But I have met dozens of part time prepagos and non pros. Almost every girl I have met is GFE if not I rocket them in the first 5 minutes. I like the fact Bogota is not hot. Also the population, almost 10 million to date. That means 5 million women).

To you Medellin mongers, stay there, speak your English, wear your shorts, pay your gringo prices and don't destroy the good thing we have in Bogota. Also you may get mugged or even killed in very dangerous Bogota. Stay away.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2828223]I love Bogota weather-- I grew up in LA and I do not miss the hot sticky weather kinda like Medeilin-.

Sorry you had a bad experience too-- shit happens I guess. Never heard of 10 minute sessions in clubs-- I and many others have had much better experiences-- as recounted in many posts.

Also many Hot SGs and club girls-- if you go on a normal Friday Saturday-- you can see 250+ girls and 60%+ are Hot-- just my and many others experience.

Good Luck in the future.[/QUOTE]Sorry but he is right and you know it. A rato in the clubs is about 10 min, max 15. Same with a street girl. After that the maid knock at the door. That's why I only do strip dance in those clubs and fuck elsewhere during day time before going down to SF for the shows.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2828415]I love Bogota, Met Woodman once many years ago, maybe 10 yrs or so, I don't remember. I never sessioned in SF and never went back.

But I have met dozens of part time prepagos and non pros. Almost every girl I have met is GFE if not I rocket them in the first 5 minutes. I like the fact Bogota is not hot. Also the population, almost 10 million to date. That means 5 million women).

To you Medellin mongers, stay there, speak your English, wear your shorts, pay your gringo prices and don't destroy the good thing we have in Bogota. Also you may get mugged or even killed in very dangerous Bogota. Stay away.[/QUOTE]I've always liked Bogota. I don't mind the weather.

I think overall it's a better city for everything. Food mongering clubbing etc.

I don't think the weekend warriors will invade Bogota. The city is too big and they wouldn't even know where to start.

[QUOTE=Norp1054;2827371]Had a great time in this city, visiting about a month after my first visit to Colombia in Medellin. Mostly stream of consciousness and random thoughts follow.

Tantra Spa and Mezzanine. 1 session at each place. Good one at Mezzanine, mediocre at Tantra. About 10 girls at Tantra, 7/10 max. Didn't even ask for lineup at Mezzanine as I was happy with the first girl I saw.

Eroticas Bogota. Used them 3 times, got the girl I asked for only once. However the two replacements were both more than acceptable and matched the body type, natural vs. Enhanced, services, and price of the ones I asked fornot sure if this was deliberate by the agency or I just got lucky. All arrived around 10 minutes before / after the scheduled time. Whatsapp receptionist was responsive. All the girls were early 20's students, provided great service, enjoyed themselves (or put on a convincing enough act to be indistinguishable from the real thing), went to the gym and were fit. Two had no kids, one had one but I couldn't tell. Bodies 8-9/10, faces 7-8/10. Would use this agency again despite them not sending who I asked for simply because the quality was so good. Would definitely try some other agencies as well. I think Bogota is good for escorts due to the size of the city and the competition so if you're willing to pay more than brothel / club girls you can have a very good time.

Ibis Museo. Great location with oxxo, banks, crepes / waffles, and coffee less than 5 minute walk, clean, hot showers, relatively quiet. Walked 10 minutes to official Claro store for SIM card since I was worried my old phone's IMEI was locked from my last Colombia tripthe employee there said she registered it for me. Brought girls back to hotel twice. First time was no problem, second time reception called me saying something about an extra guest. I told them I had no problem before, they said something I couldn't make out, and hung up. Girl showed up a few minutes later and said she had no problem. So not sure what happened. Second time was a few hours before checkout deadline. I had initially reserved the room for 2 guests. Next time someone stays there and brings chicas back, let us know if there are any problems. Because apart from that, the hotel was great.

Santa Fe at night. Took the Woodman tour, friendly helpful guy with a lot of knowledge. Definitely helped me be more comfortable there because it is a very sketchy area. By myself, I only felt relatively safe on the streets that were busy with people. Dark streets with few people I purposefully avoided walking down. Police vehicles patrol regularly. My trip was during the week so I didn't get the full effect, but even then it was a huge number of sex workers. I can imagine how wild it would be on the weekend. The SF clubs were all fairly similarly set up as a standard strip club / brothel. I had no problems getting Uber to / from SF and my hotel.

Bogota. Cool and mild, not much rain while I was there. Traffic as bad or worse than Medellin and driving just as chaotic. Took Uber / didi everywhere, still cheap. Only found the time to visit two museums, Gold and National. Both worth the visit and next time I'm back I'll go to the ones I missed as there are many. Finally tried crepes and waffles, now I see why it gets so busy. El Dorado Airport took forever to get through immigration for my departing flight, reminds me why I leave more than enough time for the airport so I don't have to stress as much.

Will I go back? Yes. Bogota or Medellin? I liked them both, but my next Colombia trip (whenever that will be) will be to Bogota.[/QUOTE]Thanks for this write-up. Headed to Bogota in a few weeks and plan on staying at Ibis, so I will report back on the situation there. Also planned on trying out the spas and a few dates with Eroticas. I've spent time in Medellin (loved it there), but am looking forward to enjoying Bogota and the additional activities it has to offer.

Not staying very long this trip, so I definitely want to check out SF with Woodman to get an overview of the place. Woodman, if you're reading, can you PM me details please. I've started membership upgrade process but cannot PM yet. Thanks.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2827554]My first trip to Colombia was to Bogota, in 2008,13 years ago and I have been going there for 4 to 5 times a year, sometimes more. Met an amazing woman, 5 years ago thru a girl in reception at my hotel. On this fateful trip My wingman canceled last minute so being by myself I ask the receptionist if she would like to go to dinner, she had to work but introduced me to one of her classmates. That was my lucky day, a beautiful, very intelligent 4. 6 GPA STEM major. No makeup, no silicone, dosn't smoke or drink yet extremely beautiful. And she taught herself English BTW.

She applied for a 10 year visa a few months after we met and was instantly granted a visa. We have been alternating visits back and forth since. From a good family, poor but hard working. A family I will be proud to be a member of next year when we marry and live in the USA after graduation from the University National, When I first started mongering many years ago, thoughts of meeting a woman of substance like this wasn't even a thought but life can throw you a curve now and then but you never know. So after many many trips to mostly Latin American countries and many many women, I met the one. Like most guys on the board I repeated the same old mantras, "there only working girls" "don't fall in love with a piece of ass" "If you fall in love in Colombia, your falling in love by yourself. ". bla bla bla but beware Latin Woman make amazing wives. I have been mostly faithful for the time with her, still have a few specials 'friends' I text and see once in a while but I'm always happier when I'm with her so if the right one comes along. You are done.[/QUOTE]Love to reading story like yours and congrats.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2828544]Love to reading story like yours and congrats.[/QUOTE]I'll tell you a good one, err sad one, that happened to me in Brasil. Fell in love back in the early 2000's in Rio. Her name was Marcia Gabriel, again very intelligent, She studied Quantum Physics and a dead ringer for Jessica Alba Perfect in every way, I couldn't even find a flaw anywhere on her body, Head to toe. Perfect.

Being an experienced monger at this point I was very aware of the problems with falling in love. I returned to Rio every month after that, just to be with her. We would make regular trips to llha Grande and Armação dos beúzios, We began speaking of doing something permanent and moving to Buzios. But I am my worst enemy. I was staying in the 2 bedroom, Dream apartment. Mirrors on the ceiling, a bar with a dancers pole, a 2 person Jacuzzi, a maid that would answer the buzzer by my bed, the maid would bring Caipirinhas whenever I rang, Dude I was living the dream. Anyway I met this girl on hooker beach who danced at night in Barbarellas. As usual I let the little head do my thinking and had her over to my apartment one afternoon after the beach, Expecting to meet my Jessica Alba at 8 that night. Anyway I walked Barbarells dancer down to the street to catch a taxi, giving her a kiss as she was leaving. I looked up and Marcia Gabriel's taxi pulled up right behind Barbarells taxi. She saw everything. I screwed up, we were to meet at 6 not 8. She told her taxi to go, I chased her down the street and she left me in the exhaust of the taxi and she never spoke to me again, Despite many calls and emails later I never saw her again. Brazilian women and not to be fucked with!

Staying in Bogota in the fall for a few weeks, have been here many times and a general colombian centro rat.

I am not sure If I should set up base in Santa fe, or central / north Chapinero (zona G / zonaT). I have stayed in both areas before.

Carr 19 is great in santa fe with restaurants and of course santa fe has great sw, but seeing reports here that prices have increased and service has gone down?

100 k for a 15 min rato? Or are vennies still available for the 50 k rato?. But OTOH, central chapinero has a ton of good brothels, (Thanks to Tomdick for the guide), and a plethora of girls on mileroticos and photoprepagos. And an overall nicer area. I am a daytime monger, not a late night guy or party animal. Don't like loud clubs. But santa fe is so easy sometimes LOL! One pop a day and I'm good.

What do you guys think?

Happy mongering,

JW.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2828576]I'll tell you a good one, err sad one, that happened to me in Brasil. Fell in love back in the early 2000's in Rio. Her name was Marcia Gabriel, again very intelligent, She studied Quantum Physics and a dead ringer for Jessica Alba Perfect in every way, I couldn't even find a flaw anywhere on her body, Head to toe. Perfect.

Brazilian women and not to be fucked with![/QUOTE]I wish it could have turned out differently for you and I can imagine how betrayed she felt, however. 100% your fault, that had nothing to do with her being Brazilian.

El Mechanico.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2828576]I'll tell you a good one, err sad one, that happened to me in Brasil. Fell in love back in the early 2000's in Rio. Her name was Marcia Gabriel, again very intelligent, She studied Quantum Physics and a dead ringer for Jessica Alba Perfect in every way, I couldn't even find a flaw anywhere on her body, Head to toe. Perfect.

Being an experienced monger at this point I was very aware of the problems with falling in love. I returned to Rio every month after that, just to be with her. We would make regular trips to llha Grande and Armao dos bezios, We began speaking of doing something permanent and moving to Buzios. But I am my worst enemy. I was staying in the 2 bedroom, Dream apartment. Mirrors on the ceiling, a bar with a dancers pole, a 2 person Jacuzzi, a maid that would answer the buzzer by my bed, the maid would bring Caipirinhas whenever I rang, Dude I was living the dream. Anyway I met this girl on hooker beach who danced at night in Barbarellas. As usual I let the little head do my thinking and had her over to my apartment one afternoon after the beach, Expecting to meet my Jessica Alba at 8 that night. Anyway I walked Barbarells dancer down to the street to catch a taxi, giving her a kiss as she was leaving. I looked up and Marcia Gabriel's taxi pulled up right behind Barbarells taxi. She saw everything. I screwed up, we were to meet at 6 not 8. She told her taxi to go, I chased her down the street and she left me in the exhaust of the taxi and she never spoke to me again, Despite many calls and emails later I never saw her again. Brazilian women and not to be fucked with![/QUOTE]Yes life experiences and the direction it takes us can usually be boiled down to a few moments in time that if something happened just a few minutes or even seconds before or after who knows where it would have taken us, like your experience in Rio. I too have had a few memorable ones.

Now it's been 20 years since my few trips to Rio but I have had similar experiences with really great women in (a) Moscow in 1994, (b) Finland in 1978, (c) Oslo Norway in 1978,1980 and 1984, (d) Stockholm Sweden in 1987, (e) more than I can count in Colombia in the past 30 years including an experience as recently as last week in Medellin.

Oh the memories!

TTM.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2828378]I would say 80% or so of the guys I have shown around are experienced -- They just want the down-low on SF and the vast majority are happy.

-- I think that there are plenty of girls Hot Girls in SF -- -- I don't think it has gone downhill-- except it's a little slower due to the economy.

Sorry for your bad experience-.

I love Santa Fe-- It continues feeds my sexual addiction well .[/QUOTE]Ok Woody, whatever you say LOL.

I'm glad it's great for you.

Bogota is most likely great for lots of things including other pussy venues, and less weekend warrior gringos, but the quantity and quality at SF has definitely tumbled IMO.

I've been going for a long time and just had a Friday / Saturday there.

Bad.

Keep the dream alive though LOL.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2828223]I love Bogota weather-- I grew up in LA and I do not miss the hot sticky weather kinda like Medeilin-.

Sorry you had a bad experience too-- shit happens I guess. Never heard of 10 minute sessions in clubs-- I and many others have had much better experiences-- as recounted in many posts.

Also many Hot SGs and club girls-- if you go on a normal Friday Saturday-- you can see 250+ girls and 60%+ are Hot-- just my and many others experience.

Good Luck in the future.[/QUOTE]Hi Woodman, I tried sending a private message requesting a tour. It seems your inbox is full.

Can you please ping me?

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2828599]Staying in Bogota in the fall for a few weeks, have been here many times and a general colombian centro rat.

I am not sure If I should set up base in Santa fe, or central / north Chapinero (zona G / zonaT). I have stayed in both areas before.

Carr 19 is great in santa fe with restaurants and of course santa fe has great sw, but seeing reports here that prices have increased and service has gone down?

100 k for a 15 min rato? Or are vennies still available for the 50 k rato?. But OTOH, central chapinero has a ton of good brothels, (Thanks to Tomdick for the guide), and a plethora of girls on mileroticos and photoprepagos. And an overall nicer area. I am a daytime monger, not a late night guy or party animal. Don't like loud clubs. But santa fe is so easy sometimes LOL! One pop a day and I'm good.

What do you guys think?

Happy mongering,

JW.[/QUOTE]Hi If you know Santa Fe--Contrary to a few bad reports it is still the Bomb-- Street Girls are still 50 mil more or less-- In some clubs 60-mil -- 120 mil+++.

Off the beaten track there are some pretty hot milfs for 30 mill -- Seriously-- There are a lot not hot -- but a few hot and eager to please.

Good Luck!

Before I was originally supposed to leave Colombia I end up spending the day with a girl I see regularly (let's call her Ellis). As the night's ending I tell Ellis that I'm leaving the next day, and she just starts bawling. Like just straight hard crying. Afterwards tells me that she didn't expect to react like that either. Anyways, we meet up the next day and go around and stuff. It's evening time and my flight's at midnight so I tell Ellis I have to go up to Zona T to get cash (only have 100 k). She mentions it's OK, I don't have to pay her she'd rather spend the time together doing something before my flight. Was kind of a shocker for me. We end up grabbing dinner then going back to her place for the first time. My alarm doesn't go off so I'm still at her place and late leaving for the airport. We end up trying to go to the airport anyways, but I'm too late so she suggests staying over at her place. We do that and now that I'm thinking over it now it's actually so strange because:

1. I've never been to a working girl's house.

2. I've never stayed over at a working girl's house.

3. I've never had a girl who I met initially paying say they don't care about payment.

Well anyways, I end up getting my flight rebooked for early morning 2 days following. So I end up staying over with Ellis then we spend the following day together (some events, dinner, drinks, back to her place). Both days I'm at her place she's looking at me with all googly eyes which I thought was kind of strange. Then she drops the bomb that she's serious when she says she wants me to be her boyfriend. She'd been asking me to stay for longer and when I'd be back etc etc.

It's been a few weeks and we'd been keeping in touch daily. I'd been wary of Ellis ever asking for money or anything like that, but it never happened. Basically conversations were casual, some stuff of her asking me how my day was. I'm usually pretty busy so then some messages of "I'm bothering you" and stuff like that. Well one day she posts some sappy shit on her Whatsapp stories that's obviously about me and I tell her it's corny as shit and how I'm not returning to Colombia for months. Call Ellis later and she's obviously been crying and we patch some things up. Well recently she's said even more stuff about how she wants something serious and some other corny shit so I tell her it's best we don't talk for a bit so she can calm her thoughts. And I guess that's the report.

Any of you guys ever had something similar in Colombia? This is a first for me. The strangest part for me seems that the boyfriend / girlfriend thing seems pretty sincere. It would never work long term, but seems like it would've been fun when I went back to Colombia. I think this was supposed to be something where I asked some questions but in the end kind of came out as a stream of consciousness.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2828902]Before I was originally supposed to leave Colombia I end up spending the day with a girl I see regularly (let's call her Ellis). As the night's ending I tell Ellis that I'm leaving the next day, and she just starts bawling. Like just straight hard crying. Afterwards tells me that she didn't expect to react like that either. Anyways, we meet up the next day and go around and stuff. It's evening time and my flight's at midnight so I tell Ellis I have to go up to Zona T to get cash (only have 100 k). She mentions it's OK, I don't have to pay her she'd rather spend the time together doing something before my flight. Was kind of a shocker for me. We end up grabbing dinner then going back to her place for the first time. My alarm doesn't go off so I'm still at her place and late leaving for the airport. We end up trying to go to the airport anyways, but I'm too late so she suggests staying over at her place. We do that and now that I'm thinking over it now it's actually so strange because:

1. I've never been to a working girl's house.

2. I've never stayed over at a working girl's house.

3. I've never had a girl who I met initially paying say they don't care about payment..[/QUOTE]Yep have had this happen probably 5 times in the past dozen plus years in Colombia, in Bogota and Barranquilla and Medellin and as recently as in the past few months here in Medellin where I live, when the stars are aligned and the chemistry is undeniable BUT realize that:

1. She is not your girl rather it's just your turn.

2. You can't make a housewife out of a working girl, period.

3. Enjoy the times and fun / play just recognize that "This too shall pass".

Does your rola have a kid? Have you met the family? Please keep your eyes open.

TTM.

[QUOTE=DexterKas;2828815]Hi Woodman, I tried sending a private message requesting a tour. It seems your inbox is full.

Can you please ping me?[/QUOTE]-- I sent you a PM-- Thanks.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2828902]Before I was originally supposed to leave Colombia I end up spending the day with a girl I see regularly (let's call her Ellis). As the night's ending I tell Ellis that I'm leaving the next day, and she just starts bawling. Like just straight hard crying. Afterwards tells me that she didn't expect to react like that either. Anyways, we meet up the next day and go around and stuff. It's evening time and my flight's at midnight so I tell Ellis I have to go up to Zona T to get cash (only have 100 k). She mentions it's OK, I don't have to pay her she'd rather spend the time together doing something before my flight. Was kind of a shocker for me. We end up grabbing dinner then going back to her place for the first time. My alarm doesn't go off so I'm still at her place and late leaving for the airport. We end up trying to go to the airport anyways, but I'm too late so she suggests staying over at her place. We do that and now that I'm thinking over it now it's actually so strange because:

1. I've never been to a working girl's house.

2. I've never stayed over at a working girl's house.

3. I've never had a girl who I met initially paying say they don't care about payment..[/QUOTE]Had this, it is right out of the playbook. I had working girls introduced me to their entire family and did the whole stopping asking for money. But let me pull your coat.

If she isn't getting money from you, she is getting it from someone else. Yeah she might like you but please do not be naive to think she will go work a regular job just for you while you are away.

Do yourself a favor and ask this question. IF you didn't know she was working. You became BF and GF and later on found out she sold her body to strangers would you still be with her?

I'm guessing no, and that is your responds. Tried lightly, play the game but do not fall for girls that sell their p*ssy.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2828902]Before I was originally supposed to leave Colombia I end up spending the day with a girl I see regularly (let's call her Ellis). As the night's ending I tell Ellis that I'm leaving the next day, and she just starts bawling. Like just straight hard crying. Afterwards tells me that she didn't expect to react like that either. Anyways, we meet up the next day and go around and stuff. It's evening time and my flight's at midnight so I tell Ellis I have to go up to Zona T to get cash (only have 100 k). She mentions it's OK, I don't have to pay her she'd rather spend the time together doing something before my flight. Was kind of a shocker for me. We end up grabbing dinner then going back to her place for the first time. My alarm doesn't go off so I'm still at her place and late leaving for the airport. We end up trying to go to the airport anyways, but I'm too late so she suggests staying over at her place. We do that and now that I'm thinking over it now it's actually so strange because:

1. I've never been to a working girl's house.

2. I've never stayed over at a working girl's house.

3. I've never had a girl who I met initially paying say they don't care about payment.

Well anyways, I end up getting my flight rebooked for early morning 2 days following. So I end up staying over with Ellis then we spend the following day together (some events, dinner, drinks, back to her place). Both days I'm at her place she's looking at me with all googly eyes which I thought was kind of strange. Then she drops the bomb that she's serious when she says she wants me to be her boyfriend. She'd been asking me to stay for longer and when I'd be back etc etc.[/QUOTE]She will soon have a financial emergency. It will happen because she doesn't have much money. If you are more than just a customer but a boyfriend, are you going to help her out? She would expect someone who cares about her to help her out. If you don't, I think that is probably the end of the so called relationship. There is something more, of course, you need to help your girlfriend out. That is what usually would happen.

You can either pay now or pay later. It's up to you.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2828599]Staying in Bogota in the fall for a few weeks, have been here many times and a general colombian centro rat.

I am not sure If I should set up base in Santa fe, or central / north Chapinero (zona G / zonaT). I have stayed in both areas before.

Carr 19 is great in santa fe with restaurants and of course santa fe has great sw, but seeing reports here that prices have increased and service has gone down?

100 k for a 15 min rato? Or are vennies still available for the 50 k rato?. But OTOH, central chapinero has a ton of good brothels, (Thanks to Tomdick for the guide), and a plethora of girls on mileroticos and photoprepagos. And an overall nicer area. I am a daytime monger, not a late night guy or party animal. Don't like loud clubs. But santa fe is so easy sometimes LOL! One pop a day and I'm good..[/QUOTE]Bogota mongering scene is not what it used to be. In the brothels of chapinero, in 2018/19 you had a bunch of average girls but always a few hidden gems. They are gone. Covid has massively accelerated the transition to webcamsex and the pretty girls are all over it. I think the transition would have happened over time any way but covid did accelerate the switch. Brothels are left with girls not attractive enough to be successful on Web sex. Last year I went there I didn't fuck any girl in those brothels but I had very good time before covid.

In Santa Fe, that is still ok even if I find that most clubs are not very busy most days. Troya is the most crowed with the highest line up. The other are hit or miss to be honest, you need to be lucky.

Street girl I can't say, not my thing.

High end club in the north are Almost all closed.

Pussy house moved location, very few girls and not the prettiest last time I visited. Las divas, empty no customer, very few girls.

Some spa in north chapinero are still good venues but you need luck as well (nanxiang, sensity).

Mezzanine is ok but I never understood the hype. Fucking an average girl in a tiny tiny cabin on a massage table is ok once a a while but there are better options.

Agencies and online escort site, I can't say I prefer to choose a girl IRL.

In short, still some sex activities to do but it's going down hill. Who knows what's coming next.

[QUOTE=Temporis;2828902]Before I was originally supposed to leave Colombia I end up spending the day with a girl I see regularly (let's call her Ellis). As the night's ending I tell Ellis that I'm leaving the next day, and she just starts bawling. Like just straight hard crying. Afterwards tells me that she didn't expect to react like that either. Anyways, we meet up the next day and go around and stuff. It's evening time and my flight's at midnight so I tell Ellis I have to go up to Zona T to get cash (only have 100 k). She mentions it's OK, I don't have to pay her she'd rather spend the time together doing something before my flight. Was kind of a shocker for me. We end up grabbing dinner then going back to her place for the first time. My alarm doesn't go off so I'm still at her place and late leaving for the airport. We end up trying to go to the airport anyways, but I'm too late so she suggests staying over at her place. We do that and now that I'm thinking over it now it's actually so strange because:

1. I've never been to a working girl's house.

2. I've never stayed over at a working girl's house.

3. I've never had a girl who I met initially paying say they don't care about payment.

Well anyways, I end up getting my flight rebooked for early morning 2 days following. So I end up staying over with Ellis then we spend the following day together (some events, dinner, drinks, back to her place). Both days I'm at her place she's looking at me with all googly eyes which I thought was kind of strange. Then she drops the bomb that she's serious when she says she wants me to be her boyfriend. She'd been asking me to stay for longer and when I'd be back etc etc..[/QUOTE]I've had this happen with two diff working girls in mde.

They fell for me and wanted something serious and they brought it up.

My advice is don't do it. For a few reasons.

A. It'll cost you more in the long run. Not only financially but emotionally and it'll be time consuming. She's already showing signs of jealous controlling behavior. It'll get much worse.

Be. She has a past history of prostitution. Pretty Woman is only a movie and I've learned this the hard way with one of the girls. Their minds are too damaged to have a regular relationship and it'll show with time.

There's a good chance she'll stay very loyal to you and a lot of these other sterotypes don't apply like she has a barrio BF or she's seeing guys on the side etc.

However in the end you'll miss mongering and realize it's simply not worth it and feel bad about breaking their hearts even more.

My advice is keep it casual and have your fun.

Cause if you commit to her even just for your Colombia trips it can get exhausting.

You live there and I have seen it with my own eyes that every other girl knows you. The question was for people whom this girls don't know whether they find it equally hard to get a BBBJ.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2827992]I get it alot because I have a stable of girls LOL I mean They know what time it is!!

I'll say 'Tu cuca Esta Lista Bebe?' I got a whole parade going on-.

I'll be gagging them and say 'Tu boca es muy linda con me pene' or De todo-- tratalo' and they smile-.

Santa Fe My Pussy Paradise.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Temporis;2828902]Before I was originally supposed to leave Colombia I end up spending the day with a girl I see regularly (let's call her Ellis). She mentions it's OK, I don't have to pay her she'd rather spend the time together doing something before my flight. Was kind of a shocker for me. We end up grabbing dinner then going back to her place for the first time. My alarm doesn't go off so I'm still at her place and late leaving for the airport. We end up trying to go to the airport anyways, but I'm too late so she suggests staying over at her place. We do that and now that I'm thinking over it now it's actually so strange because:

1. I've never been to a working girl's house.

2. I've never stayed over at a working girl's house.

3. I've never had a girl who I met initially paying say they don't care about payment.
[/QUOTE]Uff there are a lot of cold hearted folks here, judging by the answers. May folks here are very quick to paint all members from another group with the same brush. I try to treat each person on their own merits. There are plenty of guys that have ex-WGs as GFs or wives. I say, if you are enjoying yourself, go with the flow. These kinds of adventures are character building and can be life changing.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2829082]I've had this happen with two diff working girls in mde. They fell for me and wanted something serious and they brought it up. My advice is don't do it. For a few reasons.[/QUOTE]You never said if you did it or not. If not, what is the basis for your explanation of why not to do it? In either case, did you first ask them what their idea of "something serious" would entail?

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2827843]Hello,

I was in Bogota last month for the first time. For me to have a good session, I need a BBBJ. I was surprised to find out that on the streets of Santa Fe, it is mostly off the menu even if I offer additional for that. I found only ONE girl who agreed to it among about the dozen I asked. All my mongering was hence limited to Tantra Spa where BBBJ was included in the fee.

I am curious: is it me or is it the way it is for everyone. (The girls in clubs seem to be willing to do that for a really high price)..[/QUOTE]Your experience sounds unusual to me. I have hung out with about a dozen guys from this forum; most require BBBJ and I haven't heard of anyone having difficulty finding it. In my experience, at least half the chicas here offer it as an extra.

To try to solve this problem, no insult intended, I would first double check there's no hygiene issue going on. Some guys shower in the morning, walk around the city sweating all day, and then look for a BBBJ. I always shower, brush my teeth, and put on clean clothes right before heading out to look for a chica.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2827843]Hello,

I was in Bogota last month for the first time. For me to have a good session, I need a BBBJ. I was surprised to find out that on the streets of Santa Fe, it is mostly off the menu even if I offer additional for that. I found only ONE girl who agreed to it among about the dozen I asked. All my mongering was hence limited to Tantra Spa where BBBJ was included in the fee.

I am curious: is it me or is it the way it is for everyone. (The girls in clubs seem to be willing to do that for a really high price).

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Combination of my data points end of 2022 and 2023. My Spanish is terrible, under 40, average build, and I'm always super clean.

Maybe those data points don't matter, but stated them in case they do.

For me, street girls in Santa fe might be around 25% that will do BBBJ for maybe 30 mil upcharge. Inside the clubs 90% will do bbj for 50 mil. BBFS is available too if you ask enough.

Chapinero casas close to 80% bbj for 20 to 50 mil. BBFS available as well maybe 20% if you ask. Anywhere from 30 mil to 80 mil.

I only go after early 20's chiquitas to petite girls. So my % are without asking large and / or older women.

[QUOTE=Prelude141;2829056]Bogota mongering scene is not what it used to be.
In short, still some sex activities to do but it's going down hill. Who knows what's coming next.[/QUOTE]You are right on point.

Wish visited before Covid to see the difference now but scenes are dying down for sure.

Visited Bogota in recent months and finally writing the trip report.

Been to Medellin and Cali on a regular basis but whatever reason, never been to Bogota so hope it helps any newbies.

Weather- Cloudy on most days but wasn't too bad. Just need a light jacket at night.

Airport- Official taxi line was insanely busy and ended up using the Uber. Read a few reports that Uber wasn't an option but they pick you up at departure area on the second floor and works very well.

North Clubs- Was highly disappointed. The price is high and girls do not look good at all. Most of clubs visited were empty and charged Heineken beer 60 k even menu shows 50 k. Just got the vibes that they wanted to upcharge the gringo so never session.

Mezzanine- Asking price 180-200 k with average looking girls. There is Dann Carlton hotel down the street and check out a massage parlor right across street which had some decent girls and cheaper at 150 k.

Abejitas- 190 k and only two girls available when visited. The girls were wearing professional massage uniforms which hide the body lines. Wouldn't recommend and place smell like vinegar.

Absolut spa- Was my favorite spot. The girls have silicone look similar to Loutron in Medellin. The price was 320 k or 350 k room with shower. Everything was covered and girls offer BBBJ for stupid extra money which I didn't partake.

Loutron- When visited in December, price was 370 k but now 450 K? Not sure if they are related to one in Medellin but the girls look horrible. Maybe it was too early in the afternoon but visited twice and the selection was bad both times.

Pussy House- Visited original location back in December and new location this time around. New location is very nice and spacious but hardly any girls are there. Visited Friday and Saturday night.

La Forty Nine- Apparently, the owner of this club went to prison so clubs is closed. There is a club right next door but it's not worthy.

Nanxing Spa- Very nice room with shower. There were many girls available but didn't see any stunners. The price is 330 k.

Divas Spa- 150 k and girls looked rough.

Sensity Spa- 200 k and many girls on line-up and they have more like next door look.

Santa Fe- Took me by surprise how good some girls looked in the clubs (again, l like silicone look). Did not partake in the street girls and just hung out in the clubs. Many advised that picking up the Uber is an issue later at night but didn't have much issue getting the ride back to the hotel which was located by Parque 93. Is this place kind of dodgy? Yes but not as bad as you think. Noticed it is bit of challenge to have the girls agree to BBBJ and CIM but kind of understand why since girls take many clients. And, saw some girls that I have been with other Colombian cities which was kind of funny.

Custom tailor suit- There are quite a few custom tailor suit stores in Parque 93 neighborhood and 3-piece suit cost around $600 USD which was amazing.

Final thought- Liked the city and felt safe just walking around. The city is very trendy and different vibe than Medellin. Just wish there were more options for nighttime since most of clubs in North have closed down. As other member mentioned, BBBJ not being standard service like Brazil is annoying. Would give the city another try but will need to search more for new places and options.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2829528]Custom tailor suit- There are quite a few custom tailor suit stores in Parque 93 neighborhood and 3-piece suit cost around $600 USD which was amazing.[/QUOTE]Eww my man I think you have been had. My brother had one made in Bogota for less than $300. I guess you would think it is super duper amazing getting one made in Thailand for $200.

Prior to covid, I visited both Medellin and Bogota.

Bogota was better than Meddion because there were more choices, such as casas in Chapinro, Santa Fe clubs, and street girls.

Any idea, how many casas are open now in Chapinero?

If Casas in Chapinero are no longer a decent option, how about SF street girls?

How does Medellin do in comparison to pre-covid?

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2829521]You are right on point.

Wish visited before Covid to see the difference now but scenes are dying down for sure.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2829104]You never said if you did it or not. If not, what is the basis for your explanation of why not to do it? In either case, did you first ask them what their idea of "something serious" would entail?[/QUOTE]Went through with it. Lasted almost a year.

The juice wasn't worth the squeeze.

Once you get all the good stuff out the way early there's not much left.

They're too emotionally and mentally damaged to think straight. Their social circle of hoes is always there. Broke it off once I realized their way of thinking and acting will leave me mentally drained. Jealous, possessive, dramatic. Not to mention at some point you're going to be responsible for them financially.

I realized the best connections with these girls is 2-3 trips max see them for a day or 2. You'll get the most out of it then move on.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2829082]I've had this happen with two diff working girls in mde.

They fell for me and wanted something serious and they brought it up.

My advice is don't do it. For a few reasons.

A. It'll cost you more in the long run. Not only financially but emotionally and it'll be time consuming. She's already showing signs of jealous controlling behavior. It'll get much worse.

Be. She has a past history of prostitution. Pretty Woman is only a movie and I've learned this the hard way with one of the girls. Their minds are too damaged to have a regular relationship and it'll show with time.

There's a good chance she'll stay very loyal to you and a lot of these other sterotypes don't apply like she has a barrio BF or she's seeing guys on the side etc.

However in the end you'll miss mongering and realize it's simply not worth it and feel bad about breaking their hearts even more.

My advice is keep it casual and have your fun.

Cause if you commit to her even just for your Colombia trips it can get exhausting.[/QUOTE]+1 don't do it.

I did this once in the DR and it was terrible. They over time become more and more expensive because inevitably you will have to pay for her to stop working the streets. In addition it is absolutely right that these girls are damaged mentally from being prostitutes. You cannot be in that lifestyle and it not leave some type of emotional, physical or mental damage.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Jicks;2829661]Prior to covid, I visited both Medellin and Bogota.

Bogota was better than Meddion because there were more choices, such as casas in Chapinro, Santa Fe clubs, and street girls.

Any idea, how many casas are open now in Chapinero?

If Casas in Chapinero are no longer a decent option, how about SF street girls?

How does Medellin do in comparison to pre-covid?[/QUOTE]Not really sure about MDE accept the prices are higher and you can get scoped+die and grt robbed more often. Also hot and humid.

I can tell you Santa Fe is still good, been to the clubs a lot recently, great action-- SGs are off the hook.

-- I hear the casas are still good. I don't really know as I go to SF and it covers my Sex addiction well enough-.

Bogota weather is great for me-- but some do not like it.

-- Spend a few minutes reading-.

[QUOTE=JackEnBogo;2829269]Your experience sounds unusual to me. I have hung out with about a dozen guys from this forum; most require BBBJ and I haven't heard of anyone having difficulty finding it. In my experience, at least half the chicas here offer it as an extra.

To try to solve this problem, no insult intended, I would first double check there's no hygiene issue going on. Some guys shower in the morning, walk around the city sweating all day, and then look for a BBBJ. I always shower, brush my teeth, and put on clean clothes right before heading out to look for a chica.[/QUOTE]My recent trip to Bogota in late may.

7 girls 7 BBBJCIM.

For me I felt like other than presenting yourself in a clean and hygienic manner is that I speak very good Spanish now. Get to vibe with girls a lot easier. And I can ask them in Spanish instead of showing them on a google translate. LOL.

[QUOTE=Jicks;2829661]Prior to covid, I visited both Medellin and Bogota.

Bogota was better than Meddion because there were more choices, such as casas in Chapinro, Santa Fe clubs, and street girls.

Any idea, how many casas are open now in Chapinero?

If Casas in Chapinero are no longer a decent option, how about SF street girls?

How does Medellin do in comparison to pre-covid?[/QUOTE]Was there earlier this year and many of the casas on the ISG map were open. Obviously didn't confirm all were open but the sheer amount of options is great!

Nothing has changed there.

A beautiful evening in Bogota-- This is the best time of the year Spring like days everyday-.

Went to Chapinero to hang out in Hippie park. Crowd was young there walked over to Lourdes much more mixed neighborhood crowd-- Very Brooklyn in chapinero-.

A great city-life feeling. I like it up there-- have not hung out in maybe 10 yrs or so-.

Chapinero has changed a lot since I lived there many new giant apartment building seemed busier-- lotsa restaurants.

Girls-- there seems to be a night chica scene going on in Chapinero-- Some touts out there.

Across from the Love motels on Caracass between calle 60 and 62 are some evening casas -- I saw 3 places, a guy told me 20 girls in Happy Nigth (sic) - Open all night -- I did not go in as I do not like to check places out unless I am actually looking to hook up-- See flyer photo-.

Also another place above Calle 57-- See photo-.

Comic Books From Mexico, Spain and Colombia Available-- Please see photos attached-- Hit me up if you are interested.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2829715]Not really sure about MDE accept the prices are higher and you can get scoped+die and grt robbed more often. Also hot and humid.

I can tell you Santa Fe is still good, been to the clubs a lot recently, great action-- SGs are off the hook.

-- I hear the casas are still good. I don't really know as I go to SF and it covers my Sex addiction well enough-.

Bogota weather is great for me-- but some do not like it.

-- Spend a few minutes reading-.[/QUOTE]A Woodman Bogota vs Medellin report is like asking a Ford salesman at the dealership, what's better a Ford or a Chevy? LOL.

Bogota is definitely better than Omaha, Nebraska for giris.

To say the SF SG's are off the hook is a big stretch.

I was there on a recent Friday / Saturday and it truly sucked.

Used to be great. The majority of the hot girls have gone where the money is.

The SF clubs are about the same as always, depending on your taste.

Quick service though.

P.S., you can get scoped in any of the cities in Colombia.

The Medellin scare tactic is almost funny.

I enjoy the weather more in Medellin, especially in the evening and at night.

Bogota can get cold and wet.

These reports should be based on fact not propaganda because one might be profiting of guys.

Nothing against anyone, but let's be real.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2829896]
To say the SF SG's are off the hook is a big stretch.[/QUOTE]How many days have you been there in 2022 -23?? Me Everyday-- I Know Better.

[QUOTE]I was there on a recent Friday / Saturday and it truly sucked.[/QUOTE]Sorry for your bad experience-- Were you there for how many hours??

Me-- Many hours with guys who Loved it-- See recent reports.

[QUOTE]
P.S., you can get scoped in any of the cities in Colombia.The Medellin scare tactic is almost funny.[/QUOTE]Search 'Tourist deaths Colombia' and Medellin is predominant among crime and Murder.

[QUOTE]I enjoy the weather more in Medellin, especially in the evening and at night. Bogota can get cold and wet.[/QUOTE]Oh Noooo. -- Say it ain't so-- LOL.

[QUOTE]These reports should be based on fact not propaganda because one might be profiting of guys.[/QUOTE]Not Propaganda -- Read the Vast Majority of Positive reports -- I Love Bogota-- I have Great Sexual adventures -- Living my Best Life-- Come to Santa Fe and Bang Away.

[QUOTE]Nothing against anyone, but let's be real.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you do.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2829978]How many days have you been there in 2022 -23?? Me Everyday-- I Know Better.

Sorry for your bad experience-- Were you there for how many hours??

Me-- Many hours with guys who Loved it-- See recent reports.

Search 'Tourist deaths Colombia' and Medellin is predominant among crime and Murder.

Oh Noooo. -- Say it ain't so-- LOL.

Not Propaganda -- Read the Vast Majority of Positive reports -- I Love Bogota-- I have Great Sexual adventures -- Living my Best Life-- Come to Santa Fe and Bang Away.

Sounds like you do.[/QUOTE]Ohhh Woody, LOL.

I've been there enough. It's not rocket science.

Anyway, enjoy yourself and the tours!

I had several ladies in conversations for my short time in Bogota but when I had recovered from my travel and was ready to play Monica seemed eager and ready. She arrived within an hour of making the appointment dressed down so as not to draw attention. This is nice business hotel in Teusaquillo along el Dorado. In the room she played along well with DFK and the foreplay I like. She gives a great BBBJ but I was surprised to read in her most current ad, "venida en boca. " She definitely didn't do that and it was a great disappointment. Otherwise she smells great and arrives clean enough to rim. I'd repeat with her if other girls ghosted me and I running out of time.

[URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/sexy-morena-caliente-y-muy-sensual-lista-para-ti/20314756/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Balboa;2830031]Ohhh Woody, LOL.

I've been there enough. It's not rocket science.

Anyway, enjoy yourself and the tours![/QUOTE]Funny how you left out the bit about Medellin Being the Most Dangerous city for tourists -.

2 poor guys scoped and died in 2022 -- RIP.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2829528]Visited Bogota in recent months and finally writing the trip report.

Been to Medellin and Cali on a regular basis but whatever reason, never been to Bogota so hope it helps any newbies.

Weather- Cloudy on most days but wasn't too bad. Just need a light jacket at night.

Airport- Official taxi line was insanely busy and ended up using the Uber. Read a few reports that Uber wasn't an option but they pick you up at departure area on the second floor and works very well.

North Clubs- Was highly disappointed. The price is high and girls do not look good at all. Most of clubs visited were empty and charged Heineken beer 60 k even menu shows 50 k. Just got the vibes that they wanted to upcharge the gringo so never session.

Mezzanine- Asking price 180-200 k with average looking girls. There is Dann Carlton hotel down the street and check out a massage parlor right across street which had some decent girls and cheaper at 150 k.

Abejitas- 190 k and only two girls available when visited. The girls were wearing professional massage uniforms which hide the body lines. Wouldn't recommend and place smell like vinegar.

Absolut spa- Was my favorite spot. The girls have silicone look similar to Loutron in Medellin. The price was 320 k or 350 k room with shower. Everything was covered and girls offer BBBJ for stupid extra money which I didn't partake.

Loutron- When visited in December, price was 370 k but now 450 K? Not sure if they are related to one in Medellin but the girls look horrible. Maybe it was too early in the afternoon but visited twice and the selection was bad both times.

Pussy House- Visited original location back in December and new location this time around. New location is very nice and spacious but hardly any girls are there. Visited Friday and Saturday night.

La Forty Nine- Apparently, the owner of this club went to prison so clubs is closed. There is a club right next door but it's not worthy.

Nanxing Spa- Very nice room with shower. There were many girls available but didn't see any stunners. The price is 330 k.

Divas Spa- 150 k and girls looked rough.

Sensity Spa- 200 k and many girls on line-up and they have more like next door look.

Santa Fe- Took me by surprise how good some girls looked in the clubs (again, l like silicone look). Did not partake in the street girls and just hung out in the clubs. Many advised that picking up the Uber is an issue later at night but didn't have much issue getting the ride back to the hotel which was located by Parque 93. Is this place kind of dodgy? Yes but not as bad as you think. Noticed it is bit of challenge to have the girls agree to BBBJ and CIM but kind of understand why since girls take many clients. And, saw some girls that I have been with other Colombian cities which was kind of funny.

Custom tailor suit- There are quite a few custom tailor suit stores in Parque 93 neighborhood and 3-piece suit cost around $600 USD which was amazing.

Final thought- Liked the city and felt safe just walking around. The city is very trendy and different vibe than Medellin. Just wish there were more options for nighttime since most of clubs in North have closed down. As other member mentioned, BBBJ not being standard service like Brazil is annoying. Would give the city another try but will need to search more for new places and options.[/QUOTE]I usually have my regular driver pick me up but if I need a taxi I exit the baggage area, turn left go upstairs and grab a taxi dropping off a passenger. No wait, the meter price is usually pretty good, better than the predetermined price in the Airport line outside of baggage.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2829681]+1 don't do it.

I did this once in the DR and it was terrible. They over time become more and more expensive because inevitably you will have to pay for her to stop working the streets. In addition it is absolutely right that these girls are damaged mentally from being prostitutes. You cannot be in that lifestyle and it not leave some type of emotional, physical or mental damage.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]First of all, when you not there just assume she fucking somebody for money or has a Colombian boyfriend or both. Also be prepared to support her family and all the birthday presants and Grandmas medicine bla bla bla. There are exceptions to the rule but not many. Forget it if you met her in the hobby.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2830290]First of all, when you not there just assume she fucking somebody for money or has a Colombian boyfriend or both. Also be prepared to support her family and all the birthday presants and Grandmas medicine bla bla bla. There are exceptions to the rule but not many. Forget it if you met her in the hobby.[/QUOTE]It's crazy how willingly working girls introduce you to their immediate families.

And they always use it to try to convince you that you're "special" LOL.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2830306]It's crazy how willingly working girls introduce you to their immediate families.
And they always use it to try to convince you that you're "special".[/QUOTE]Decades ago on a earliest trip, an older Brazilian guy explained the mentality as this: 'there are no prostitutes, just poor girls who need some money'.

Hey,

I'm here in Bogotá and somehow thought more and more about doing a gangbang-porn. I have a pretty good camera and sometimes also film privately while having sex and I also would love to be part of a Gangbang. Never did this. And think would be the hardest part. But I think pretty much that this would be possible here. I already know some girls but they're not that hot and for making a movie it should be something special. Some weeks ago I met a pretty hot chica on Tinder who was obviously there to support her instagram and / or find a sugar daddy. She is really beautiful and typically Latina with big butt and big natural breasts. I just asked her right away if she was interested in doing a Porno and she said yes. Right now she doesn't know that I'm thinking about doing a Gangbang-Porn but as far as I can tell this is more a question of money.

So my plan is to find some guys, buy HIV quick tests, rent a hotel room, dress her up with thigh high boots and stuff like that (she has some pictures in her Instagram with an outfit like this and it looks awesome) and then just go.

So, there are surely a lot of Colombian guys willing to do this but I would prefer foreigners for some reasons.

So I just wanted to ask here if and how many people would be willing to join?

For sure I could send pictures of her privately and all like that. I know I would have to register here in the forum. I tried that one time ago and they disabled my coinbase-wallet because of "unusual transaction" or something like that but I would try it again.

[blue][Do not try to use Coinbase in our site because they do not accept us as costumer.][/blue]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2830306]It's crazy how willingly working girls introduce you to their immediate families. And they always use it to try to convince you that you're "special" LOL.[/QUOTE]Nah, because their job is to get money out of you any way they can. The crazy thing is dudes that take on hookers as serious mates when there are millions of chicks available that are not hookers.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2830236]Funny how you left out the bit about Medellin Being the Most Dangerous city for tourists -.

2 poor guys scoped and died in 2022 -- RIP.[/QUOTE]From my experience in Colombia in general, I would say the vast majority of guys who are scoped do not report it. I know for a fact that the police do nothing and have expressed that they feel the Gringos are just plain stupid.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2830288]I usually have my regular driver pick me up but if I need a taxi I exit the baggage area, turn left go upstairs and grab a taxi dropping off a passenger. No wait, the meter price is usually pretty good, better than the predetermined price in the Airport line outside of baggage.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in BOG the airport people wanted 75 K to take me to my hotel in SF. I went outside the airport and got a taxi for 30 K.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2830236]Funny how you left out the bit about Medellin Being the Most Dangerous city for tourists -.

2 poor guys scoped and died in 2022 -- RIP.[/QUOTE]My anecdotal research says that more tourists go to Medellin to engage in risky behavior than go to Bogota. More tourists putting themselves in dangerous situations = more tourists falling victim.

Cartagena gets the most tourists, but it has a lot of draws more popular than P4P.

Bogota is next, but it also has other attractions. As the capitol a lot of business travelers are always coming through. Then there are the museums. Other than Santa Fe, newbies looking for pussy have less obvious choices and the majority of the obvious choices are in house. You go to short time rooms, or rooms in the clubs. There are casas, massage parlors and the mezzanines. Most of the easy access mongering goes on in places where they can't rob you, other than overcharging, shorting time or some casual pickpocketing.

Medellin has a lot to see, but search for best places to find pussy in Colombia and Medellin tops the list. And that's where guys get in trouble. Once the little head starts making decisions, bad things happen.

In addition, Medellin is possibly the largest point and click sex destination in the world. Almost all are girls who come to your place, creating an ideal opportunity for drugging and robbing mongers.

Bogota is where you set up shop. The tours you give are a nice bonus to your income, plus you meet a lot of people, which is usually beneficial. Of course, for guys intimidated by the streets of Santa Fe, and they can be intimidating, you provide a feeling of security. I've done the same showing people El Centro.

Other guys prefer other cities and their reasons are just as valid as your reasons to prefer Bogota.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2830446]Last time I was in BOG the airport people wanted 75 K to take me to my hotel in SF. I went outside the airport and got a taxi for 30 K.[/QUOTE]Don't know where your hotel was, but had you used Indriver it more than likely would have been 20 K or under.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2830433]Nah, because their job is to get money out of you any way they can. The crazy thing is dudes that take on hookers as serious mates when there are millions of chicks available that are not hookers.[/QUOTE]Most of the time gringos who can't speak Spanish fluently have no other options.

They're most likely going to surround themselves with girls who have some sort of history with prostitution.

If you can't speak Spanish at least to a conversational level the "normal" girls, especially the attractive ones will not have the patience to sit there and try to have a relationship with you and google translate.

The difference it makes is like night and day.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2830453]Don't know where your hotel was, but had you used Indriver it more than likely would have been 20 K or under.[/QUOTE]Rates from airport seem to be based on the zone. It was 35 K to the area around Zona T. Because of the time of day I'm sure it would have been a lot more with Uber or other online services. Took well over an hour.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2830236]Funny how you left out the bit about Medellin Being the Most Dangerous city for tourists -.

2 poor guys scoped and died in 2022 -- RIP.[/QUOTE]Funny how you always do mention it, LOL.

We all know how you make money doing SF Tours.

That's great!

Happy for you.

I wasn't really comparing Medellin vs Bogota.

Just giving my personal report of how SF sucked on Friday and Saturday night recently, and how lots of girls have told me that they've abandoned Bogota for where the money is these days; Medellin and Cartagena.

I wasn't comparing crime statistics.

That's your schtick LOL.

You'll write me off as blah blah again.
That’s your game.

No one can write a negative report of SF without you crying and spouting it as the best mongering spot on the planet.

Anyone with half a brain can figure out that your posts have a profit motive for Woody Woodman. You.

Unbiased reports are welcome.

Your propaganda and the belittling of others who dare to make real reports of SF are tiresome.

Good luck dude. Just give it a rest.

I used Uber to visit SF clubs it worked well for me even past midnight. Visited Pussy House on Wednesday night, it was depressing. Probably 2 or 3 average girls. Prices in Spa below seems high to me compared to casa options. Could not get a BBBJ in SF club, I did not press too hard though, considering the turnover there I thought covered BJ will be better anyways.

HH.

[QUOTE=PussyRiot;2829528]Visited Bogota in recent months and finally writing the trip report.

Been to Medellin and Cali on a regular basis but whatever reason, never been to Bogota so hope it helps any newbies.

Weather- Cloudy on most days but wasn't too bad. Just need a light jacket at night.

Airport- Official taxi line was insanely busy and ended up using the Uber. Read a few reports that Uber wasn't an option but they pick you up at departure area on the second floor and works very well.

North Clubs- Was highly disappointed. The price is high and girls do not look good at all. Most of clubs visited were empty and charged Heineken beer 60 k even menu shows 50 k. Just got the vibes that they wanted to upcharge the gringo so never session.

Mezzanine- Asking price 180-200 k with average looking girls. There is Dann Carlton hotel down the street and check out a massage parlor right across street which had some decent girls and cheaper at 150 k.

Abejitas- 190 k and only two girls available when visited. The girls were wearing professional massage uniforms which hide the body lines. Wouldn't recommend and place smell like vinegar.

Absolut spa- Was my favorite spot. The girls have silicone look similar to Loutron in Medellin. The price was 320 k or 350 k room with shower. Everything was covered and girls offer BBBJ for stupid extra money which I didn't partake.

Loutron- When visited in December, price was 370 k but now 450 K? Not sure if they are related to one in Medellin but the girls look horrible. Maybe it was too early in the afternoon but visited twice and the selection was bad both times.

Pussy House- Visited original location back in December and new location this time around. New location is very nice and spacious but hardly any girls are there. Visited Friday and Saturday night.

La Forty Nine- Apparently, the owner of this club went to prison so clubs is closed. There is a club right next door but it's not worthy.

Nanxing Spa- Very nice room with shower. There were many girls available but didn't see any stunners. The price is 330 k.

Divas Spa- 150 k and girls looked rough.

Sensity Spa- 200 k and many girls on line-up and they have more like next door look.

Santa Fe- Took me by surprise how good some girls looked in the clubs (again, l like silicone look). Did not partake in the street girls and just hung out in the clubs. Many advised that picking up the Uber is an issue later at night but didn't have much issue getting the ride back to the hotel which was located by Parque 93. Is this place kind of dodgy? Yes but not as bad as you think. Noticed it is bit of challenge to have the girls agree to BBBJ and CIM but kind of understand why since girls take many clients. And, saw some girls that I have been with other Colombian cities which was kind of funny.

Custom tailor suit- There are quite a few custom tailor suit stores in Parque 93 neighborhood and 3-piece suit cost around $600 USD which was amazing.

Final thought- Liked the city and felt safe just walking around. The city is very trendy and different vibe than Medellin. Just wish there were more options for nighttime since most of clubs in North have closed down. As other member mentioned, BBBJ not being standard service like Brazil is annoying. Would give the city another try but will need to search more for new places and options.[/QUOTE]

Hello,

I have been lurking for quite some time and have found the website very useful. I spend about half the year in Colombia, mostly in Bogota. I have many years of experience in many other countries, especially Asia where I lived for 12 years and have traveled a great deal as well. Thanks everybody for the good information I have got here. I hope to be able to make a few contributions of my own from now on. To give you a sense of where I am coming from, my favorite places to engage in the activities that this website is about are, in a rough order that can change from day to day under different circumstances: Bogota, Bangkok, Jakarta Indonesia (although admittedly it's been a while since I've been there,) and Prague.

In Bogota I very much enjoy nights in Santa Fe, although I don't usually partake there. It feels too rushed to me and at my advanced age I like to take my time. I tend to prefer the spas and meeting women in a variety of places to take out elsewhere. I also have a couple of regular girlfriends here so when I go to Santa Fe it is usually more to enjoy the atmosphere, some conversations, some lap dances and drinks and once in a while if I am overwhelmed with lust for a particular woman, I am known to succumb. I have never found Santa Fe to feel unsafe or intimidating, so long as I approached it with some basic street common sense. The bars and women there make their money from people who feel comfortable to come to the place and buy drinks and sex. They don't particularly want a lot of criminal activity that will scare customers away, and they are pretty good at providing that security. But if someone is stupid, there isn't much that anyone can do to protect people from themselves.

My comment is regarding what seems to be some sort of ongoing rivalry as to what people have to say about Bogota vs Medellin. Things like that are not what I come here for. I come for information about particular places. I understand that all of us have different needs, desires, turn-ons, etc. And so it is very difficult to generalize or even draw reasonable comparisons from one place to the other. When I go to the Bogota thread, it is to learn about Bogota, not to read a lot of toing and froing and even insults regarding what other places may or may not be better. If I am given the facts, I can draw my own conclusions, or go to different places to find out for myself.

So, all that said, I hate to open my engagement here with a question rather than information (of the Bogota spas I do frequent, I am most fond of Sensity and Nanxing for selection, price, cleanliness and comfort. If that's any help) but here goes:

Does anyone here have any experience with the swinger clubs? In particular the one hosted by Viviana Santamaria that are advertised on her Twitter feed. I am intrigued by them but would like to know some more before actually attending one. Thanks.

[QUOTE=MsGuy88;2830815]Hello,

Does anyone here have any experience with the swinger clubs? In particular the one hosted by Viviana Santamaria that are advertised on her Twitter feed. I am intrigued by them but would like to know some more before actually attending one. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Routard has an excellent post updated in 2018 that has some info about the swinger scene [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ/page4&highlight=routard[/URL].

Seems that the link to it via the reports of distinction isn't working for me though.

[QUOTE=TooDirty;2831041]Routard has an excellent post updated in 2018 that has some info about the swinger scene [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ/page4&highlight=routard[/URL].

Seems that the link to it via the reports of distinction isn't working for me though.[/QUOTE]I have seen the reports and they were excellent. They are now five years old. I am hoping for something more recent. Thanks.

Last night I was in Santa Fe. As is often the case on Tuesdays, it was relatively slow. There were a number of, to me, attractive women in Troya. I had a dance (3 songs - 50 K) with a very nice one named Jenny who had just come off stage where she was very hot indeed. The dance was also very hot, she was very friendly, but I only had the dance. Medium-large enhanced breasts, long legs, a very nice wrap around tattoo, pretty face with a nice smile and glasses. I am a sucker for much of that. The other clubs were mostly pretty empty when I was there. Approximately 7:30-9:30 - which was early. I also had a good schwarma from Schwarma King. Just hailed a taxi to get home, which is what I generally do and have never had a problem with other than once when the driver tried to take me on a circuitous route. But I know the city well, so I set him to rights pretty quickly.

[QUOTE=HerryHot;2830581]I used Uber to visit SF clubs it worked well for me even past midnight. Visited Pussy House on Wednesday night, it was depressing. Probably 2 or 3 average girls. Prices in Spa below seems high to me compared to casa options. Could not get a BBBJ in SF club, I did not press too hard though, considering the turnover there I thought covered BJ will be better anyways.

HH.[/QUOTE]After my 1 and only Bogota visit this month, I'd say if you want a reliabl BBBJ with a hot chick I'd give the edge to Eroticas Bogota over the popular SF clubs. While I found a 9. 5/10 to my tastes in Troya and Atonis (the night one) I couldn't get BBBJ though I didn't push or want to splurge on only 1 girl in SF. My Eroticas girl was also a 9. 5, freshly showered groomed, with DFK included. It ends up being the same rate for the hour & you spare the SF scene if you don't want. Granted the online page can be shopped, however my girl went from a 8 on pics (with a mask) to 9. 5 in person.

My next trip for a few days will be Eroticas girls during day, and SF at night. There were even some of the street girls in SF in those car garage looking casas that were 9's. Not many, there was 2 garages of them for only 1 hour before they disappeared. While pricier than the younger fresher street girls because of their "premium" price, the local guys steered clear from but I got a feeling I could talk them down 20% if I wanted a longer session.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2830031]Ohhh Woody, LOL.

I've been there enough. It's not rocket science.

Anyway, enjoy yourself and the tours![/QUOTE]Hes clearly panicking LOL.

SF and his income giving tours is dying.

Let the dinosaur be lolol.

But at least he has his comic books to tout.

And thanks for the honest updates.

So I can avoid a wasted visit!!

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2831373]Hes clearly panicking LOL.

SF and his income giving tours is dying.

Let the dinosaur be lolol.

But at least he has his comic books to tout.

And thanks for the honest updates.

So I can avoid a wasted visit!![/QUOTE]I personally found his tour to be beneficial when I did it. Regarding him trying to sell comic books-there are much worse things a man can sell or do. Can't we just be kind to each other as mongers? Just my. 02.

Showdown.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2831393]I personally found his tour to be beneficial when I did it. Regarding him trying to sell comic books-there are much worse things a man can sell or do. Can't we just be kind to each other as mongers? Just my. 02.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]I also appreciated the tour as a first timer. Helped me settle down and then I chilled out on my own in SF for a few hours after. Didn't feel like he was trying to sell me, I only heard about the tour by word of mouth from other guys. Unless you have a wingman already, it's probably not the best as a gringo with poor Spanish to solo on my own.

[QUOTE=MsGuy88;2830815]

So, all that said, I hate to open my engagement here with a question rather than information (of the Bogota spas I do frequent, I am most fond of Sensity and Nanxing for selection, price, cleanliness and comfort. If that's any help) but here goes:

Does anyone here have any experience with the swinger clubs? In particular the one hosted by Viviana Santamaria that are advertised on her Twitter feed. I am intrigued by them but would like to know some more before actually attending one. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have been to the parties she hosted. The quality of women is low, most girls are in the 4/10 to 6/10 range. You won't find any stunners or young girls there. Probably around 5 girls total on a good night, and maybe 2-3 x the amount of men, so the ratio is not in your favor. The venue itself is located close to Chapinero and is basically an apartment on the second floor with a small bar, lounge zone and multiple bedrooms. Everything is covered for obvious reasons, and they do provide condoms. The entrance fee was about 50-70 k or so, not sure how much it is today. Her parties are definitely for open minded mongers, you have to be comfortable with seeing other dudes naked, or other dudes watching you having sex.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2831373]Hes clearly panicking LOL.

SF and his income giving tours is dying.

Let the dinosaur be lolol.

But at least he has his comic books to tout.

And thanks for the honest updates.

So I can avoid a wasted visit!![/QUOTE]Actually-- tours are a small side gig-- I'm very busy with my work on line-- too busy to immediatly address slander from a few bitter old men.

I shall get around too it-.

Meanwhile things are great here as far as finding hot girls-- MILFs and nubile hotties-- with or without a tour.

How honest are those updates by the way? -- I suspect he is a shill for the Medellin interests.

Me-- I have members who would vouch for me-- as seen in many reports-.

Don't give up Marqi-- You can have a Great time here-- Or have a safe long flight to Thailand.

Just Seyin-.

More Important- I have silver and gold available in the USA. See Photos -- please PM if interested.

Hi people, I've been to and mongered in Brazil but not yet in Colombia and I'd like to gather some know-how:

1) what is the local equivalent of brazilian websites like splove / clubmodel / barravipsrio I. E. Featuring girls within the 100-200 usd p / h range? Mileroticos girls look nice but I wonder if there's an upper level to that.

2) are there venues that resemble either clinicas or boates in Bogota or Medellin? If so please provide me with some examples.

3) would you generally recommend to a newbie in Colombia just to go the easy way and use websites to set up meetings or are there other options worth a try? In Brazil it's totally fine to get girls from websites but going to scandallo or to a clinica is an interesting experience and definitely worth it at least once / once in a while.

Thanks in advance for any help!

Any suggestions for safe and chica friendly options for two people in Bogota? Have some preference for Usaquen.

Took the tour with the Wood back in 2019. If I go back one of these days I'll even take it again. Thailand is more my thing, but the clubs in Santa Fe are fun and remind me of what the clubs in Tampa used to be like way back when. The weather in Bogota is my preference though.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2831393]I personally found his tour to be beneficial when I did it. Regarding him trying to sell comic books-there are much worse things a man can sell or do. Can't we just be kind to each other as mongers? Just my. 02.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]Same here. Woodie took me for a tour at 2 am my first night in BOG.

[QUOTE=Showdown;2831393]I personally found his tour to be beneficial when I did it. Regarding him trying to sell comic books-there are much worse things a man can sell or do. Can't we just be kind to each other as mongers? Just my. 02.

Showdown.[/QUOTE]But I would hope you define kind as being honest and not misleading people to waste 1000's of USD and precious vacation time to visit someplace only to find out the info was.

Misleading, if someone has a financial incentive to mislead, that creates dishonesty in most environments.

I know I've been burned travelling around the world using only info I recd from a thread only to find out it was all self serving BS.

Some people will say anything to make a buck.

Whether its selling used cars or.

Be it bitcoin, comic books.

Or travel tours.

Thoughts + observations for Friday July 30th pm.

The fantastic weather continues-- Everyday is spring, it has not really rained for weeks. A little misty tonight.

Was a little slow on street at 7 pm--it got better-- The guy I was with said it was 30% pretty hot-- I thought 40%-50%(but I am a sex addict) it did get better as the evening continued.

Clubs -- we went to Troyas about 8, there were about 20 girls about 8 pretty hot 7+ as we sat there about* 10+ girls came downstairs as they do about that time-.

We went to Atonis there were definately a few hot girls maybe 5 out of the 10 or so there. As we sat a Superhot nubile 20 yr old Colombiana named Sarah suddenly appeared-- Really hot-- like 8-9.

We were going to leave but I decided to introduce myself because she was so hot-- She was really nice and said we could have a lapdance show for 30 mil ($7) So we headed up to the couches and she really delivered-- I mean it was so great. She actually was letting me play doctor (I checked her oil--LOL) -- and she was wet too!!

- so my friend got interested in another girl-- and got a lapdance from her-- She was trying to pressure him into buying her a drink-- I squashed that and he got a lapdance and she was acting bitchy and he ditched her--he wanted to bang the hot 20 yr old she was doing a stage show so I waited by the steps and as she was getting down I hit her up-.

Lucky I grabbed her as there were other guys wanting her -- So I helped my friend hook up with her for $110 mil-- he said was good, I put her on my list for future -.

*We went to Venus and it was a little slow. But I thought there were a few that I would* like-- Ended up walking around bought some cheap viagra-.

We met up with another guy and returned to Venus--it was better-- I banged a nice country girl* from Viavicencio for 70 mil-- she was telling me a lot of girls are coming to Bogota because it is very difficult in the countryside.

After that we hit Fiebre-- it was Off the Hook-- so many hot girls. We got there about 10:30 and I noticed about 6-7+ girls just arriving to work.

-- I helped my friend hook up with a 20 yo Nubile SuperCutie for 110 mil-- best sex of the night he said-.

Inflation-- prices risingStreet girls wanting 60 mil in north area-- although 50 mil or less may be possible.

Girls in Troya and Fiebre are wanting 110 mil + ($26.50) although I have seen higher.

South Stroll it seems to be 40-50 mil -- of course YMMV-.

Other strolls less quality but you can find some hot girls you can find some quality like in photo attached-- 35 mil or less. I find it pretty easy to get BBBJ too-.

Attached are photos of 1 girl--my MILF GF and a few Silver+gold coins I have available in USA -- I also have some silver here in Bogotá too if anyone is interested please PM.

I will be posting soon about my collectibles tour I do soon, where I can show you the best places to buy gold+silver coins, rare books, antiques, art, vintage comics+magazines, posters and emeralds.

Bogotá is a collectors paradise.

[QUOTE=TooDirty;2831589]Took the tour with the Wood back in 2019. If I go back one of these days I'll even take it again. Thailand is more my thing, but the clubs in Santa Fe are fun and remind me of what the clubs in Tampa used to be like way back when. The weather in Bogota is my preference though.[/QUOTE]TD-.

Thanks for your supportive comment-.

Actually I kind of stirred it up-- But it is good publicity to the members-.

Hope you can make it down soon. Just finished a late night tour-- clubs were off the hook.

Mateo.

[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2831400]I also appreciated the tour as a first timer. Helped me settle down and then I chilled out on my own in SF for a few hours after. Didn't feel like he was trying to sell me, I only heard about the tour by word of mouth from other guys. Unless you have a wingman already, it's probably not the best as a gringo with poor Spanish to solo on my own.[/QUOTE]Hi DJ--Thanks for your supportive comment-.

Actually I kind of stirred it up-- But it is good publicity to the members-.

Hope you can make it down soon. Just finished a late night tour-- clubs were off the hook.

Mateo.

So today I noticed my cappacino at OXXO increased in price by about 1 mil. Visited Tantra and it's still 50 k for 30 minutes with a delightful BBBJ. Same no quit attitude that I am accustomed to getting.

Kudos to Tantra for holding the line!

Woodman, et al:

I'm 8 days out from my trip to Bogota. I'm staying at the 4 Seasons and I'm going to request advice from the Concierge. I'the like to put myself in position to meet and befriend non working girls. I plan on asking the hotel about museum tours or tours of Bogota during the day. At night if I don't get a date I will try and get a high end lady to my room. I don't know what the tour with Woodman is or what it costs. But I'm interested. Please pm me.

My situational awareness will be on high alert in Colombia but I'm not going to let it ruin my trip. I have back up plans and contingency plans. But the bottom line for me is just to not do anything stupid. As I understand it if you are robbed in Colombia they won't kill unless there is resistance.

Questions:

1. What is the nicest Casa in Bogota?

2. How to I make contact with high end Colombian working ladies?

Thanks I'm advance and peace!

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2832864]Woodman, et al:

I'm 8 days out from my trip to Bogota. I'm staying at the 4 Seasons and I'm going to request advice from the Concierge. I'the like to put myself in position to meet and befriend non working girls. I plan on asking the hotel about museum tours or tours of Bogota during the day. At night if I don't get a date I will try and get a high end lady to my room. I don't know what the tour with Woodman is or what it costs. But I'm interested. Please pm me.

My situational awareness will be on high alert in Colombia but I'm not going to let it ruin my trip. I have back up plans and contingency plans. But the bottom line for me is just to not do anything stupid. As I understand it if you are robbed in Colombia they won't kill unless there is resistance.

Questions:

1. What is the nicest Casa in Bogota?

2. How to I make contact with high end Colombian working ladies?

Thanks I'm advance and peace![/QUOTE]To not resist a robbery in Colombia is the correct way to play it. The problem is foolish fellows like me have resisted in the past and I have the knife scars to prove it.

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2832864]I'm 8 days out from my trip to Bogota. I'm staying at the 4 Seasons and I'm going to request advice from the Concierge. I'the like to put myself in position to meet and befriend non working girls. I plan on asking the hotel about museum tours or tours of Bogota during the day. At night if I don't get a date I will try and get a high end lady to my room.

My situational awareness will be on high alert in Colombia but I'm not going to let it ruin my trip. I have back up plans and contingency plans. [/QUOTE]Any time I have been to a museum in Colombia there have not been any women by themselves. Usually families or groups of friends. I think your best bet would be to try to meet a normal chick online before you go.

Don't know what you mean by high end. There will be no problem finding high price though.

You act like you are going into a war zone. High alert and contingency plans; WTF?

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2832969]To not resist a robbery in Colombia is the correct way to play it. The problem is foolish fellows like me have resisted in the past and I have the knife scars to prove it.[/QUOTE]I am a photographer and have long practiced how to say, in Spanish, something along the lines of, "Pardon me, sir. This is my work. Would you be so kind as to permit me to keep the card with the photos on it? You are welcome to the camera. It is much more valuable to you and the photos are valuable to me." I have spoken with several photographer friends who were robbed here in Colombia, said something along those lines, and actually managed to keep their photos. I'm not sure that I'd have the presence of mind to say such a thing. Chances are better that I would simply hand over what any armed robber was asking for, keep my head down and eyes averted, and then get the hell out of there as soon as I could.

I have, however, never been robbed in Colombia or anywhere else. I keep aware at all times of my surroundings, look ahead of me and all around me and try to anticipate problems. The closest I came was when I was in what is considered a bad neighborhood in the south of Bogota with my camera. I noticed two young men following me and eyeing my camera. I quickly entered a tienda, ordered a coffee and started torturing the ears of the owner with my bad Spanish. I told him about the guys following me and he went to the door and looked at them. They had stopped across the street. I stayed there for about a half hour by which time they had gone away.

Woke up last Saturday needing a trip so here I am in Bogota. Messaged Wooodman before leaving and by the time I landed Saturday night he'd emailed back.

He recommended a few places to stay for me. I went with the Tequendama suites. Rooms pretty nice restaurant was a little disappointing. Great location though.

Customs took about two hours to get through. Made it to the hotel and woodman met up with me about 1 am and we went around to a few of the clubs. Quite an eye opening experience. Lotsa of hot young women. So many it was difficult to make any choices. So missed the boat first night. I'm learning I guess. Saw a cute one and wanted to keep looking around. Before long everything was closed down. Next night picked up a SG. Had a new acquaintance negotiate a BBBJ for me with CFS for 100 k plus 20 k fee for the room. Get in the room and I paid her the 100 k. Then we start she refuses the BBBJ. I needed to get one out of the way and she was a hot little 19 yo so I let it all slide. Next morning wandered around girl stopped me and gave me her number. Wound up texted her a bit and she came to my hotel for 130 k. Said she would stay the night for 400 k minimum. I only had 300 k and she took that. I slept like crap cause I need space. So won't be doing that again. She was great though. Knew how get the blood flowing. Great trip so far. Most everything is pretty cheap. Great sandwich shop across the street from the hotel. Most expensive sandwich on the menu and a bottle of water came up to little less than $5.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2832972]Any time I have been to a museum in Colombia there have not been any women by themselves. Usually families or groups of friends. I think your best bet would be to try to meet a normal chick online before you go.

Don't know what you mean by high end. There will be no problem finding high price though.

You act like you are going into a war zone. High alert and contingency plans; WTF?[/QUOTE]My apologies in the contingency plan. I was in the military and I just think differently. I mean I have my red lines that I will roll the dice on. But I'm very humble and not looking for problems. I've been to MDE and had no issues whatsoever. But the fact remains that Colombia is dangerous even for Colombians.

I mean hooking up with the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. If the lady is right I'm willing to bet the farm.

Are you in agreement with tipping the concierge and letting them know my dream?

These Colombian women make me crazy.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2832969]To not resist a robbery in Colombia is the correct way to play it. The problem is foolish fellows like me have resisted in the past and I have the knife scars to prove it.[/QUOTE]I train to take knives and guns away. Knives terrify me more than guns. You Sir are braver than me.

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2833053]My apologies in the contingency plan. I was in the military and I just think differently.[/QUOTE]I was in the military too, but to me it was just a job.

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2833053]I've been to MDE and had no issues whatsoever. But the fact remains that Colombia is dangerous even for Colombians. I mean hooking up with the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. If the lady is right I'm willing to bet the farm.[/QUOTE]You may want to check the Medellin thread for the last poster that did that a couple months back. Ended up being 1 million pesos down the drain. He even made her leave early. But I guess you never know if you never try.

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2833053]Are you in agreement with tipping the concierge and letting them know my dream?.[/QUOTE]He is a concierge, not a pimp. If anything, all he is going to do is direct you to the ripoff places that are already mentioned here that most people direct foreigners to. I would just get on mileroticos and choose personally.

[QUOTE=MsGuy88;2832989]I am a photographer and have long practiced how to say, in Spanish, something along the lines of, "Pardon me, sir. This is my work. Would you be so kind as to permit me to keep the card with the photos on it? You are welcome to the camera. It is much more valuable to you and the photos are valuable to me." I have spoken with several photographer friends who were robbed here in Colombia, said something along those lines, and actually managed to keep their photos. I'm not sure that I'd have the presence of mind to say such a thing. Chances are better that I would simply hand over what any armed robber was asking for, keep my head down and eyes averted, and then get the hell out of there as soon as I could.

I have, however, never been robbed in Colombia or anywhere else. I keep aware at all times of my surroundings, look ahead of me and all around me and try to anticipate problems. The closest I came was when I was in what is considered a bad neighborhood in the south of Bogota with my camera. I noticed two young men following me and eyeing my camera. I quickly entered a tienda, ordered a coffee and started torturing the ears of the owner with my bad Spanish. I told him about the guys following me and he went to the door and looked at them. They had stopped across the street. I stayed there for about a half hour by which time they had gone away.[/QUOTE]My plan is to give them what they ask for if they show a knife or a gun, say tranquillo, and run. I do study Spanish and I'm very polite. Thank you for the excellent advice.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2833061]I was in the military too, but to me it was just a job.

You may want to check the Medellin thread for the last poster that did that a couple months back. Ended up being 1 million pesos down the drain. He even made her leave early. But I guess you never know if you never try.

He is a concierge, not a pimp. If anything, all he is going to do is direct you to the ripoff places that are already mentioned here that most people direct foreigners to. I would just get on mileroticos and choose personally.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the upfront, honest advice. You make excellent points that I needed to hear. I will report further once I get to Bogota.

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2832864]Woodman, et al:

I'm 8 days out from my trip to Bogota. I'm staying at the 4 Seasons and I'm going to request advice from the Concierge. I'the like to put myself in position to meet and befriend non working girls. I plan on asking the hotel about museum tours or tours of Bogota during the day. At night if I don't get a date I will try and get a high end lady to my room. I don't know what the tour with Woodman is or what it costs. But I'm interested. Please pm me.

My situational awareness will be on high alert in Colombia but I'm not going to let it ruin my trip. I have back up plans and contingency plans. But the bottom line for me is just to not do anything stupid. As I understand it if you are robbed in Colombia they won't kill unless there is resistance.

Questions:

1. What is the nicest Casa in Bogota?

2. How to I make contact with high end Colombian working ladies?

Thanks I'm advance and peace![/QUOTE]Your post makes me puzzled. You are going to stay at one of the most luxurious hotels in Bogota, and prefer the best looking, high end girls. Obviously, you have the coin to play. At the same time, you want to avoid dangerous areas but for some reason you want to explore Santa Fe and take Woodman's tour. Santa Fe is not for the faint of heart, and you will not find high end girls there. SF is where you find street urchins for cheap, I don't think if this is what you are looking for. My best advice would be to use Seeking or Tinder, you will find plenty of girls there, but it will require some time and effort to weed them out.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2833283]Your post makes me puzzled. You are going to stay at one of the most luxurious hotels in Bogota, and prefer the best looking, high end girls. Obviously, you have the coin to play. At the same time, you want to avoid dangerous areas but for some reason you want to explore Santa Fe and take Woodman's tour. Santa Fe is not for the faint of heart, and you will not find high end girls there. SF is where you find street urchins for cheap, I don't think if this is what you are looking for. My best advice would be to use Seeking or Tinder, you will find plenty of girls there, but it will require some time and effort to weed them out.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct that it doesn't make sense. Full disclosure this is my first time to Bogota, and I wanted a safe place as base camp to get a lay of the land. I'm not staying at the top of the 4 Seasons in a Presidential Suite. It's a modest room in a nice hotel. I did splurge a bit on the room. I'm hoping to maybe leverage where I'm staying to network with people and see what companies are doing business in Bogota.

It's funny I've been speaking with Woodman / Mateo and you both said exactly the same thing. I'm not rich and I treat all people with respect. I'm meeting up with Mateo and hopefully I can pick his brain and we can be friends. I'm happy if he makes money on his side hustle.

I had Seeking but I deleted it. I don't have Tinder. My concern is that once something is on the internet it is there forever.

I'm betting that I will be able to network with the Concierge, hotel employees, and guests. There could be a bar at the hotel where high end ladies hang out. Who knows? I will update everyone with my findings.

Lastly, this is my second trip to Colombia. I'm head over hills in love with the country, the warm people, and the beautiful ladies. I've traveled the world and I've never seen such inside and out beautiful women anywhere else. There isn't even a close second. Vive Colombia!

Gold, Silver, antiques, rare books, vintage comics-magazines, Art, emeralds and More at Great Prices.

What more can you want? Bang Hot girls and make awesome deals.

Bogotá absorbs most of the collectible in Colombia and other countries bordering because Bogota is the business center for Colombia and people naturally bring goods here to sell and there is so much available. You cannot find the Quanty and Quality in any other city around.

Bricks and bundles of new Uncirculated Venezuelan bolivares available-- very cheap. Other World banknotes-.

Tons of all Kinds of collectible-- Did I mention Vinyl record albums and stamps?

I have made thousands reselling coins, banknotes, magazines, posters, I bought here-- I haunt Bogot and know the best places.

Come on down and shop-- If you want assistance please PM me for a tour.

[QUOTE=Invincicle;2833051]Woke up last Saturday needing a trip so here I am in Bogota. Messaged Wooodman before leaving and by the time I landed Saturday night he'd emailed back.

He recommended a few places to stay for me. I went with the Tequendama suites. Rooms pretty nice restaurant was a little disappointing. Great location though.

Customs took about two hours to get through. Made it to the hotel and woodman met up with me about 1 am and we went around to a few of the clubs. Quite an eye opening experience. Lotsa of hot young women. So many it was difficult to make any choices. So missed the boat first night. I'm learning I guess. Saw a cute one and wanted to keep looking around. Before long everything was closed down. Next night picked up a SG. Had a new acquaintance negotiate a BBBJ for me with CFS for 100 k plus 20 k fee for the room. Get in the room and I paid her the 100 k. Then we start she refuses the BBBJ. I needed to get one out of the way and she was a hot little 19 yo so I let it all slide. Next morning wandered around girl stopped me and gave me her number. Wound up texted her a bit and she came to my hotel for 130 k. Said she would stay the night for 400 k minimum. I only had 300 k and she took that. I slept like crap cause I need space. So won't be doing that again. She was great though. Knew how get the blood flowing. Great trip so far. Most everything is pretty cheap. Great sandwich shop across the street from the hotel. Most expensive sandwich on the menu and a bottle of water came up to little less than $5.[/QUOTE]I usually don't go out that late But I was able to when he messaged me--We did walk the 10 minutes from TS It is hard to believe there is a bacchanal going on when the streets are so quiet.

We were at Troya, Atonis, Venus and Fiebre Fiebre was best But Nice chicas all the way around Streets very slow but that is how it can be late night. All the clubs closed at 3 a.

There actually were a couple that are usually closed that opened for after hours partying.

By the way a new club named Pink has some really hot girls-- I saw an 18 yo So Hot

Didn't woodman tell you about the after hours clubs in SF. Dude you can party until 8 am.

300 k!! Bro you paid to much. Next time offer her 150- 200 k for the longer stays. I don’t have them sleep over. Don't trust a street hoe. At least not on the first session.

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2833346]I usually don't go out that late But I was able to when he messaged me--We did walk the 10 minutes from TS It is hard to believe there is a bacchanal going on when the streets are so quiet.

We were at Troya, Atonis, Venus and Fiebre Fiebre was best But Nice chicas all the way around Streets very slow but that is how it can be late night. All the clubs closed at 3 a.

There actually were a couple that are usually closed that opened for after hours partying.

By the way a new club named Pink has some really hot girls-- I saw an 18 yo So Hot[/QUOTE]

There are other dating site other than seeking and tinder. Regular dating apps. Note that Colombian woman can be flaky AF. PM if you need advise on this matter.

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2833340]You are 100% correct that it doesn't make sense. Full disclosure this is my first time to Bogota, and I wanted a safe place as base camp to get a lay of the land. I'm not staying at the top of the 4 Seasons in a Presidential Suite. It's a modest room in a nice hotel. I did splurge a bit on the room. I'm hoping to maybe leverage where I'm staying to network with people and see what companies are doing business in Bogota.

It's funny I've been speaking with Woodman / Mateo and you both said exactly the same thing. I'm not rich and I treat all people with respect. I'm meeting up with Mateo and hopefully I can pick his brain and we can be friends. I'm happy if he makes money on his side hustle.

I had Seeking but I deleted it. I don't have Tinder. My concern is that once something is on the internet it is there forever.

I'm betting that I will be able to network with the Concierge, hotel employees, and guests. There could be a bar at the hotel where high end ladies hang out. Who knows? I will update everyone with my findings.

Lastly, this is my second trip to Colombia. I'm head over hills in love with the country, the warm people, and the beautiful ladies. I've traveled the world and I've never seen such inside and out beautiful women anywhere else. There isn't even a close second. Vive Colombia![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2825265]Very useful info, thanks and hope I can repay the intel if you ever visit my locale in the middle east!

BTW In the middle east it's HJ, BBBJ or FS in that order. Where HJ is considered basic service in the parlours.

What constitute basic services around there?[/QUOTE]Thanks DJ and Wood for the intel couple weeks back, just returned from my travel and thought ID put a few words down.

Stayed at hotel taquendema close to SF.

First stop was tantra spa. Couple of guys outside shouting chica so I nodded and they ushered me up and sat me down. Very small cafe, maybe 6 tables, full of girls, bar, barman, waiter. Waiter comes over and I order a drink then one by one the girls start coming over and say ola, shake hand. Nicely organised but it was all grade 5-6 so I politely informed the waiter not interested and he said come back after 8 pm (it was 6 pm at the time).

Next stop was Las Divas. As I am walking up, I notice same set-up as tantra I. E gringos outside looking bit intimidating but as I had figured the protocol I intended to walk up, nod and get ushered in. As soon as I got 1 door from the place, a police siren blares and I see a cop van slowly drive by, officers looking at us with menacing 'don't let me catch you up to no good' look. I cursed my luck and moved on. Starting to rain. Torrential. I holed up in some empandas place and planned my next move.

Next stop was Lido. Rocked up about 7:30 ish. Completely empty. I'm told chica arrival imminent. Tldr; left after 1 hour and 2 girls to show for it, neither more than 7.

At this point, I'm chips all in on Troya, head over and boy was I right. What a vibe. Soon as you walk in, MC on the mic, catwalk of strippers, mongers getting private dances etc. I walk around, grab some ass, get a price for full service I. E don't have time for a dance after all the above. I get quoted 150, we go up, tip the room lady and get to the deed. Was a 5 ft10 silicon job but she took the pounding like a champ. Went back down, recover with a drink and ask waiter to bring me someone with 'grande tetes e culo'. He obliges and brings over finest specimen I could have asked for, bit short but big naturals and latina ass. Same drill, 150, go up, tip the lady, smash that thing adn come back down. Did this one more time and then I was out of cash. I wished I hadn't spent the rest on coffee beans and chocolate bars earlier when I was in between failed stops but oh well, enjoyed it, could not believe the value for money and ease of access.

Will be coming back soon for sure, hit me up for any questions or tips on what I did wrong for the earlier fails!

Is 150 k the going price at Troya now? God damn.

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2834007]Thanks DJ and Wood for the intel couple weeks back, just returned from my travel and thought ID put a few words down.

Stayed at hotel taquendema close to SF.

First stop was tantra spa. Couple of guys outside shouting chica so I nodded and they ushered me up and sat me down. Very small cafe, maybe 6 tables, full of girls, bar, barman, waiter. Waiter comes over and I order a drink then one by one the girls start coming over and say ola, shake hand. Nicely organised but it was all grade 5-6 so I politely informed the waiter not interested and he said come back after 8 pm (it was 6 pm at the time).

Next stop was Las Divas. As I am walking up, I notice same set-up as tantra I. E gringos outside looking bit intimidating but as I had figured the protocol I intended to walk up, nod and get ushered in. As soon as I got 1 door from the place, a police siren blares and I see a cop van slowly drive by, officers looking at us with menacing 'don't let me catch you up to no good' look. I cursed my luck and moved on. Starting to rain. Torrential. I holed up in some empandas place and planned my next move.

Next stop was Lido. Rocked up about 7:30 ish. Completely empty. I'm told chica arrival imminent. Tldr; left after 1 hour and 2 girls to show for it, neither more than 7.

At this point, I'm chips all in on Troya, head over and boy was I right. What a vibe. Soon as you walk in, MC on the mic, catwalk of strippers, mongers getting private dances etc. I walk around, grab some ass, get a price for full service I. E don't have time for a dance after all the above. I get quoted 150, we go up, tip the room lady and get to the deed. Was a 5 ft10 silicon job but she took the pounding like a champ. Went back down, recover with a drink and ask waiter to bring me someone with 'grande tetes e culo'. He obliges and brings over finest specimen I could have asked for, bit short but big naturals and latina ass. Same drill, 150, go up, tip the lady, smash that thing adn come back down. Did this one more time and then I was out of cash. I wished I hadn't spent the rest on coffee beans and chocolate bars earlier when I was in between failed stops but oh well, enjoyed it, could not believe the value for money and ease of access.

Will be coming back soon for sure, hit me up for any questions or tips on what I did wrong for the earlier fails![/QUOTE]

Ya' got to keep up-- Go to [URL]HookerPrices.com[/URL]/ Bogota / GringoPrices.

Simple-- Get down here and Rage!

Anyhow-at the risk of being Slandered) the clubs are off-The Hook-- As always.

Streets are banging-- as reflected in many reports.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2834052]Is 150 k the going price at Troya now? God damn.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2834007]Will be coming back soon for sure, hit me up for any questions or tips on what I did wrong for the earlier fails![/QUOTE]Maybe you were in the room for 2 hours? Should have laughed when they told you 150 if you were not.

Your so much nicer when you are high amigo!!

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2834079]Ya' got to keep up-- Go to [URL]HookerPrices.com[/URL]/ Bogota / GringoPrices.

Simple-- Get down here and Rage!

Anyhow-at the risk of being Slandered) the clubs are off-The Hook-- As always.

Streets are banging-- as reflected in many reports.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2834007]Thanks DJ and Wood for the intel couple weeks back, just returned from my travel and thought ID put a few words down.

Stayed at hotel taquendema close to SF.

First stop was tantra spa. Couple of guys outside shouting chica so I nodded and they ushered me up and sat me down. Very small cafe, maybe 6 tables, full of girls, bar, barman, waiter. Waiter comes over and I order a drink then one by one the girls start coming over and say ola, shake hand. Nicely organised but it was all grade 5-6 so I politely informed the waiter not interested and he said come back after 8 pm (it was 6 pm at the time).

Next stop was Las Divas. As I am walking up, I notice same set-up as tantra I. E gringos outside looking bit intimidating but as I had figured the protocol I intended to walk up, nod and get ushered in. As soon as I got 1 door from the place, a police siren blares and I see a cop van slowly drive by, officers looking at us with menacing 'don't let me catch you up to no good' look. I cursed my luck and moved on. Starting to rain. Torrential. I holed up in some empandas place and planned my next move.

Next stop was Lido. Rocked up about 7:30 ish. Completely empty. I'm told chica arrival imminent. Tldr; left after 1 hour and 2 girls to show for it, neither more than 7.

At this point, I'm chips all in on Troya, head over and boy was I right. What a vibe. Soon as you walk in, MC on the mic, catwalk of strippers, mongers getting private dances etc. I walk around, grab some ass, get a price for full service I. E don't have time for a dance after all the above. I get quoted 150, we go up, tip the room lady and get to the deed. Was a 5 ft10 silicon job but she took the pounding like a champ. Went back down, recover with a drink and ask waiter to bring me someone with 'grande tetes e culo'. He obliges and brings over finest specimen I could have asked for, bit short but big naturals and latina ass. Same drill, 150, go up, tip the lady, smash that thing adn come back down. Did this one more time and then I was out of cash. I wished I hadn't spent the rest on coffee beans and chocolate bars earlier when I was in between failed stops but oh well, enjoyed it, could not believe the value for money and ease of access.

Will be coming back soon for sure, hit me up for any questions or tips on what I did wrong for the earlier fails![/QUOTE]Yes TROYA is my favorite. More girls than in other clubs around. Easy to circulate. Good lighting; and no hustler; also its climax is around 7 PM when all other clubs (except Atunes) are mostly empty.

I've read almost every post on Bogota and Medellin. I'm aware of the dangers of being double crossed, scoped, knived, shot, robbed, having my organs harvested or even being killed. The descendants of Valley Forge don't scare. Let's rage!

[QUOTE=BourneAgain;2834007]Thanks DJ and Wood for the intel couple weeks back, just returned from my travel and thought ID put a few words down.

Stayed at hotel taquendema close to SF.

First stop was tantra spa. Couple of guys outside shouting chica so I nodded and they ushered me up and sat me down. Very small cafe, maybe 6 tables, full of girls, bar, barman, waiter. Waiter comes over and I order a drink then one by one the girls start coming over and say ola, shake hand. Nicely organised but it was all grade 5-6 so I politely informed the waiter not interested and he said come back after 8 pm (it was 6 pm at the time).

Next stop was Las Divas. As I am walking up, I notice same set-up as tantra I. E gringos outside looking bit intimidating but as I had figured the protocol I intended to walk up, nod and get ushered in. As soon as I got 1 door from the place, a police siren blares and I see a cop van slowly drive by, officers looking at us with menacing 'don't let me catch you up to no good' look. I cursed my luck and moved on. Starting to rain. Torrential. I holed up in some empandas place and planned my next move.

Next stop was Lido. Rocked up about 7:30 ish. Completely empty. I'm told chica arrival imminent. Tldr; left after 1 hour and 2 girls to show for it, neither more than 7.

At this point, I'm chips all in on Troya, head over and boy was I right. What a vibe. Soon as you walk in, MC on the mic, catwalk of strippers, mongers getting private dances etc. I walk around, grab some ass, get a price for full service I. E don't have time for a dance after all the above. I get quoted 150, we go up, tip the room lady and get to the deed. Was a 5 ft10 silicon job but she took the pounding like a champ. Went back down, recover with a drink and ask waiter to bring me someone with 'grande tetes e culo'. He obliges and brings over finest specimen I could have asked for, bit short but big naturals and latina ass. Same drill, 150, go up, tip the lady, smash that thing adn come back down. Did this one more time and then I was out of cash. I wished I hadn't spent the rest on coffee beans and chocolate bars earlier when I was in between failed stops but oh well, enjoyed it, could not believe the value for money and ease of access.

Will be coming back soon for sure, hit me up for any questions or tips on what I did wrong for the earlier fails![/QUOTE]You went to tantra bar. Which is right next door. As previously posted, there is a completely different set up and pricing. But the bar girls do use the tantra spa rooms.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2834234]You went to tantra bar. Which is right next door. As previously posted, there is a completely different set up and pricing. But the bar girls do use the tantra spa rooms.

[/QUOTE]It's the same org, same girls and same pricing. On my last trip, I went to the usual tantra and I was told that all the girls were next door. When I chose a girl, she took me back to a room at the usual place.

[QUOTE=HombreIndio;2834461]It's the same org, same girls and same pricing. On my last trip, I went to the usual tantra and I was told that all the girls were next door. When I chose a girl, she took me back to a room at the usual place.[/QUOTE]I did not say it wasn't the same org. I have previously reported on it.

My data points are all from 45 days ago. The pricing was not the same and bbj was not automatically included with no negotiation, which is why I said the pricing and set up was different. It's essentially the casa routine. Except 60 mil for 30 minutes instead of 45-50. Other mongers I know, including a Venezuelan, went and the price was also 60 k. One got 100 k for 30 minutes bbj and bbjcip. But she was just super bad at math haha.

Tantra Spa is 50 k for 30 minutes and bbj included with no negotiation needed. It is an important difference for someone not comfortable or able to negotiate.

Also in the 10+ times I stoped in at both at separate times since Bar opened, there hasn't been any overlap in the girls. But I also have not been inside on a Sunday. Not saying there has never been. But it has not been my experience. The Tantra Spa girls have seemed more like the regulars I'm used to over the last 6 months. Tantra Bar are new to me. I've been to Tantra Spa about 30 times this year.

My visit to both Tantras in the last 7 days did not show any overlap. Same girls at Tantra Bar.

Looks like Tsntra Spa is becoming like New life in MDE. You're bound to run into your neighbor from the states. LOL. FYI that area has at least four different casas.

[QUOTE=JackTaggart;2834598]I did not say it wasn't the same org. I have previously reported on it.

My data points are all from 45 days ago. The pricing was not the same and bbj was not automatically included with no negotiation, which is why I said the pricing and set up was different. It's essentially the casa routine. Except 60 mil for 30 minutes instead of 45-50. Other mongers I know, including a Venezuelan, went and the price was also 60 k. One got 100 k for 30 minutes bbj and bbjcip. But she was just super bad at math haha.

Tantra Spa is 50 k for 30 minutes and bbj included with no negotiation needed. It is an important difference for someone not comfortable or able to negotiate.

Also in the 10+ times I stoped in at both at separate times since Bar opened, there hasn't been any overlap in the girls. But I also have not been inside on a Sunday. Not saying there has never been. But it has not been my experience. The Tantra Spa girls have seemed more like the regulars I'm used to over the last 6 months. Tantra Bar are new to me. I've been to Tantra Spa about 30 times this year.

My visit to both Tantras in the last 7 days did not show any overlap. Same girls at Tantra Bar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2834052]Is 150 k the going price at Troya now? God damn.[/QUOTE]I was quoted 120 K-150 K at Troya I think. And that's with zero negotiation on my part, if my Spanish was better and it wasn't my first time I feel like I could've gotten 100 K. Still the Troya girl I had was a perfect cute face, Colombia fully enhanced bimbo that I wanted, for $35 I'll take it. It seems Tijuana is $100-$130, though the time varies, but still relatively cheaper. If it's early in the night and rooms aren't full, next time I'm going to see if I can extend from 15 min to a 25-30 min session for a cheaper rate.

[QUOTE=Dcfan77;2834052]Is 150 k the going price at Troya now? God damn.[/QUOTE]The clubs in Medellin going up too.

Got in yesterday. I went to a high end casa that the driver new of. I don't know the places name because I don't think it has one. There were several ladies to choose from. I picked one with an amazing body. It was good but it wasn't like Mde. I'm going to an even better one tonight and I will report back. Today I visited the museum of gold, a different museum with many works from Botero. I bought the book 100 years of solitude to learn about magical realism. I visited the house of the mayor of Bogota, the Congress of Colombia, a famous square, and the Presidents house. I'm going to meet Woodsman for dinner in a couple hours but I'm not going to Sante Fe. It's just not necessary to take the risk. Bogotá really amazes me.

I do have some intel to share. I thought the most beautiful women in Colombia are from MDE. But the consensus of many of the people I've met here is that the most beautiful women are from Cali. We may be splitting hairs here. For me the prettiest woman I have ever kissed is a Paisa from MDE. Until I met someone better I'm sticking to that.

Don't do anything stupid here and chances are nothing bad will happen. I find myself not missing America really, but loving America. I was so blessed to even be born there.

Peace to all of you.

I just met Woodman and walked around Zona Rosa. He is a kind man. I witnessed him giving several people money. I consider him a friend and I believe it is a value to meet him. I've seen the bad things that people have said about him and I believe it's complete unfounded. If someone has anything bad to say about him then by all means say it to me. I'm here in Bogota and will soon be going to MDE. I love Bogota! Zona Rosa is so nice. I'm going to a Casa soon and I'm excited.

Peace.

I was out tonight hanging around Zona Rosa-- Around the corner from Atlantis mall is a spa named Via Spa on CRA 13 a they have nice facilities I saw line up of 4 girls-- 7-8+.

I was quoted 300 mil for an hour-- 9 a-9 p -- I was told in the afternoon 7-10 girls available.

1 block over is the sister spaColorin-- See Cards att.

[URL]http://serviciosprepagos.com[/URL]

Also see 2 other cards att-- These are night club brothels in Chapinero-- there are at least 2 more clubs in that area.

I bang too many girls in SF to go to these places-- But Quick Someone bang some girls there!!

[QUOTE=DondeSea72;2835631] I went to a high end casa [/QUOTE]Did they charge you anything?

[QUOTE=Woodman09;2835681]I was out tonight hanging around Zona Rosa-- Around the corner from Atlantis mall is a spa named Via Spa on CRA 13 a they have nice facilities I saw line up of 4 girls-- 7-8+.

I was quoted 300 mil for an hour-- 9 a-9 p -- I was told in the afternoon 7-10 girls available.

1 block over is the sister spaColorin-- See Cards att.

[URL]http://serviciosprepagos.com[/URL]

Also see 2 other cards att-- These are night club brothels in Chapinero-- there are at least 2 more clubs in that area.

I bang too many girls in SF to go to these places-- But Quick Someone bang some girls there!![/QUOTE]Thanks for the scouting. I like staying in Chapinero so it'd be great to have easy brothel / club in the nice part of city. Though Troya treated me so well, and there were those 5 or 6 pornstars posted up in those car garage casas nearby. Next time ID check out those nearby Chapinero clubs and if poor I'd book it to SF.

Staying at the 4 Seasons and asked the driver for the most elite place in Bogota.

I met a lady there that was a solid 9.

I was ready to do the deal and happily pay the 800 k pesos.

However the bar staff kept messing with me and wanted me to buy more drinks.

You won't find this foolishness in the Mansion in MDE.

Paisa ladies are the best in the world.

When I go to heaven and I will, my only question to St. Peter is why God choose to make the MDE ladies the most beautiful in the world.

Further, being a broke ass poor person means only one thing; that you don't have the favor of God.

MDE is the capital of Colombia.

MDE es mejor! Es la verdad!

MDE is vastly superior to Bogota in my opinion.

If an MDE lady likes you then she will give you the keys to the kingdom and let you actually hit it.

Bogota not so much.

It's the trick phuck.

He is cool enough but make no mistake he needs money.

Word to the wise.

I was raised to not even think about partying unless I was flushed with cash.

Full disclosure I'm happy alone and don't anyone really.

I believe I have unresolved emotional pain in my childhood that haunts me to this day.

But again who doesn't?

Peace to all you all!!