American Politics

[QUOTE=Canada;3065789]You accuse Trump as a sexual criminal. Ok send me the proof. If you don't have any proof you shouldn't be lying about this. I guess if you assume that you can just post these lies with out proof ten we can post everyday that you are a sexual criminal. You are as much of a sexual criminal as Trump and I have the same proof you have.[/QUOTE]What proof did Trump have when he implied that Barack Obama was not a US citizen? Trump does have a civil verdict of 83 million sexual battery on E jean Carroll. Why do you feel the need to defend Trump against statement that is made about him. He's a grown man and can handle it.

To defend the honor of your woman is one thing but Trump is a dude. LOL.

BTW, whatever happened to MDS? As I recall he was certain his no doubt 3rd sucker vote for Trump would be the end of "globalization", that Trump was going to destroy China's growing influence on World Trade and all those other blatantly obvious Trump campaign lies. I hope he chimes in on this latest event to clarify whatever part of that I might have misremembered.

Regardless, there were whole bunches of MAGAs who sucker voted for Trump 3 times in order to get about as opposite the results that Trump has produced so far in 5 1/2 years as so-called president as it could possibly get.

Not only has Trump's 2nd Failed Trade and Tariffs War with China gifted China with the greatest Trade Surplus in its history and continued his first failed Trade and Tariffs War's effect of slamming American farmers and small businesses into near or outright bankruptcy and lost international customers for the survivors to China, but his current trip to China with hat in hand is Pro China Globalization on Steroids!

Where are the representatives of American farmers, small businesses, etc who might also enjoy a morsel or two of charity those Corporate CEOs are hoping to get from Xi?

[B]Chinas record trade surplus reveals its biggest strength and hidden weakness..
Booming Chinese exports have driven trade surplus past $1tn but also reveal the extent of country's reliance on foreign markets.[/B]

[URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/09/chinas-record-high-trade-surplus-reveals-the-difficulty-trump-will-have-in-rebalancing-global-economy[/URL]

No problem, really. Xi could count on limp-dick Trump to rush in with whatever disastrous Repub War Mongering blunders necessary to shore up that momentary Chinese weakness:

[B]China April exports rebound strongly, trade surplus widens ahead of Trump visit.
May 9, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-april-exports-rebound-strongly-trade-surplus-widens-ahead-trump-visit-2026-05-09/[/URL]

[B]Trump kicks off high-stakes summit with Xi.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/14/in-photos-trump-lands-in-beijing-ahead-of-high-stakes-summit-with-xi.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE=Canada;3065789]You accuse Trump as a sexual criminal. Ok send me the proof. If you don't have any proof you shouldn't be lying about this. I guess if you assume that you can just post these lies with out proof ten we can post everyday that you are a sexual criminal. You are as much of a sexual criminal as Trump and I have the same proof you have.[/QUOTE]Ask women who were under 18 and not only one, but maybe you will also tell they lie, so proud to tell they were aggressed by such man. He has good lawyers and big money, not to be prosecuted and now protected, but you can look all Epstein files, you won't find me, when you will find him often. Do you know he must suck Putin who has photos of him with prostitutes in Moscow. Except blind and Netanyahou who need him, everybody know how bad is your Trump and putting real shame on USA. You didn't list 7 peaces he made? Not Ukraine, not Venezuela, not Greenland, not Gaza where he wanted to build a beach resort as a shameful crazy he is, not Lebanon, but I can tell you Americans will die because of his craziness, he already killed a mother with his ICE.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3065842]Ask women who were under 18 and not only one, but maybe you will also tell they lie, so proud to tell they were aggressed by such man. He has good lawyers and big money, not to be prosecuted and now protected, but you can look all Epstein files, you won't find me, when you will find him often. Do you know he must suck Putin who has photos of him with prostitutes in Moscow. Except blind and Netanyahou who need him, everybody know how bad is your Trump and putting real shame on USA. You didn't list 7 peaces he made? Not Ukraine, not Venezuela, not Greenland, not Gaza where he wanted to build a beach resort as a shameful crazy he is, not Lebanon, but I can tell you Americans will die because of his craziness, he already killed a mother with his ICE.[/QUOTE]Trump confessed to Florida police that he / everyone "knew about Epstein's evil acts with underage girls" before he was arrested for it.

[B]Donald Trump Told Police 'Everyone' Knew About Jeffrey Epstein's Crimes in 2006.
Feb. 11, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-told-police-everyone-170932777.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]Donald Trump told cops "everyone" knew about Jeffrey Epstein's evil acts with underage girls ... this according to an official FBI report.

The report -- several of the millions of Epstein document pages released by Trump's Department of Justice in recent weeks -- lays out the Palm Beach Police Department's investigation into the financier during the early 2000s.
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At one point, Trump apparently called PBPD -- Reiter says this was in 2006, around the time Epstein was arrested and charged with a state-level solicitation of prostitution charge -- and said, "Thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this."

[B]He specifically mentions Epstein's association with underage girls ... telling cops "he was around Epstein once when teenagers were present and Trump 'got the hell out of there.'"[/b][/QUOTE]This is what the law says about adults who are "know" about such abuse of underage victims and do not report it to the authorities:

[B]Penalties for Failure to Report and False Reporting of Child Abuse and Neglect: Summary of State Laws.[/B]

[URL]https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/penalties-failure-report-and-false-reporting-child-abuse-and[/URL]

[QUOTE]Many cases of child abuse and neglect are not reported, even when mandated by law. Therefore, nearly every State and United States territory imposes penalties, often in the form of a fine or imprisonment, on mandatory reporters who fail to report suspected child abuse or neglect as required by law, as well as to prevent malicious or intentional reporting of cases that are not founded. Approximately 47 States, the District of Columbia, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands, and the Virgin Islands impose penalties on mandatory reporters who knowingly or willfully fail to make a report when they suspect that a child is being abused or neglected. [B]With failure to report classified as a misdemeanor in 39 States and American Samoa, Guam, and the Virgin Island, in Arizona, Florida, and Minnesota, misdemeanors are upgraded to felonies for failure to report more serious situations[/b], while in Illinois and Guam, second or subsequent violations are classified as felonies. Approximately 28 States carry penalties in their civil child protection laws for any person who willfully or intentionally makes a report of child abuse or neglect that the reporter knows to be false. Twenty States and the Virgin Islands classify false reporting as a misdemeanor or similar charge. This report provides a State-by-State and United States territory summary of laws for failure to report and false reporting of child abuse and neglect.[/QUOTE]To the MAGAs who vomit up lies without the slightest effort to provide a shred of substantiation for their lies, knowing full well that none exists, be careful what you wish for when you "demand" substantiation from the rest of us for the facts and truths we post. Not that there is yet proof that Trump did the kiddie-diddling himself here.

But now everyone on this forum knows he knew about it happening all around him and just "got the hell out of there", saying and doing nothing to prevent it from continuing to happen for years. Oh, and everyone also knows that at least one MAGA poster here is apparently just fine and dandy with that.

Mind you, nobody was talking about teenagers merely being "present" around Epstein. There is no law forbidding that. Trump was clearly talking about the behavior that gets someone arrested and convicted of a serious crime.

The A. I. Overview:

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Yes, Jeffrey Epstein's initial 2008 Florida plea deal stemmed from a 2005 investigation into accusations that he solicited prostitutes, [b]including minors under the age of 18, at his Palm Beach mansion. While the charges were for soliciting prostitution, the investigation involved at least 36 young girls, some as young as 14. [/b]

PBS
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[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065892]Trump confessed to Florida police that he / everyone "knew about Epstein's evil acts with underage girls" before he was arrested for it.

[B]Donald Trump Told Police 'Everyone' Knew About Jeffrey Epstein's Crimes in 2006.
Feb. 11, 2026[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/donald-trump-told-police-everyone-170932777.html[/URL]

This is what the law says about adults who are "know" about such abuse of underage victims and do not report it to the authorities:

[B]Penalties for Failure to Report and False Reporting of Child Abuse and Neglect: Summary of State Laws.[/B]

[URL]https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/penalties-failure-report-and-false-reporting-child-abuse-and[/URL]

To the MAGAs who vomit up lies without the slightest effort to provide a shred of substantiation for their lies, knowing full well that none exists, be careful what you wish for when you "demand" substantiation from the rest of us for the facts and truths we post. Not that there is yet proof that Trump did the kiddie-diddling himself here.[/QUOTE]Yes you are correct. Trump reportedly Epstein in 2006 to the sheriff in Florida. He kicked Epstein out of his club when he found this out and reported it. Yes you are correct not one of Epstein Democrat friends reported him. Only Trump reported him to authorities. Bill Clinton or Hillary did not report him. Yes a Republican was the only one to report Epstein to the authorities. Thank you for confining this.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3065842]Ask women who were under 18 and not only one, but maybe you will also tell they lie, so proud to tell they were aggressed by such man. He has good lawyers and big money, not to be prosecuted and now protected, but you can look all Epstein files, you won't find me, when you will find him often. Do you know he must suck Putin who has photos of him with prostitutes in Moscow. Except blind and Netanyahou who need him, everybody know how bad is your Trump and putting real shame on USA. You didn't list 7 peaces he made? Not Ukraine, not Venezuela, not Greenland, not Gaza where he wanted to build a beach resort as a shameful crazy he is, not Lebanon, but I can tell you Americans will die because of his craziness, he already killed a mother with his ICE.[/QUOTE]Please provide me with the name of one of the underage girls. You can't because there aren't any. So quit your lies. It is embarrassing.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3065835]What proof did Trump have when he implied that Barack Obama was not a US citizen? Trump does have a civil verdict of 83 million sexual battery on E jean Carroll. Why do you feel the need to defend Trump against statement that is made about him. He's a grown man and can handle it.

To defend the honor of your woman is one thing but Trump is a dude. LOL.[/QUOTE]Trump didn't have proof that Obama wasn't a citizen. That is why he demanded Obama provide his birth certificate. And Obama refused for years to show proof. Once Obama showed a birth certificate (real or fake) Trump stopped. That is why you should stop your lies unless you have proof of what you are posting.

As if high gas prices, high grocery prices, high energy prices and high bankruptcies among farmers, small businesses, truckers and millions of Americans wasn't enough, in the midst of yet another self-inflected dumbass Repub middle-east fossil fuel war, the MAGA Fuhrer looks to enrich himself and award himself $10 billion dollars in taxpayers money.

[B]DOJ Plots Giant Payout for Trump in His $10B Taxpayer Shakedown,[/B] May 13 2026, [URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/doj-plots-giant-payout-for-donald-trump-in-his-10b-irs-lawsuit-taxpayer-shakedown/[/URL].

This is the corrupt and criminal Repub gov't, MAGA suckers, twice voted for, as taxpayers get pick-pocketed, bleed to death and grifted, by their MAGA Fuhrer and billionaire buddies.

[QUOTE=Canada;3065935]Please provide me with the name of one of the underage girls. You can't because there aren't any. So quit your lies. It is embarrassing.[/QUOTE]You can be as blind supporter of Trump as you feel good with it, but there are women and not only one, but with his look and manners, quite normal he needs to force. If he was not protected, he would probably be in front of justice for many reasons. I wish mid terms will get rid of him, for benefit of women and our world, when he is just a shame and put shame on USA.

[QUOTE=Canada;3065934]Yes you are correct. Trump reportedly Epstein in 2006 to the sheriff in Florida. He kicked Epstein out of his club when he found this out and reported it. Yes you are correct not one of Epstein Democrat friends reported him. Only Trump reported him to authorities. Bill Clinton or Hillary did not report him. Yes a Republican was the only one to report Epstein to the authorities. Thank you for confining this.[/QUOTE]There is zero evidence or testimony that Trump reported anything to anybody in authority about what he and everybody knew Epstein was up to. That is not what my link says and you know it. The link has Trump thanking the police for arresting Epstein. The link does not have him reporting it to anyone. Nor is there a link or report stating the FBI or other investigation agency found a shred of evidence that Trump reported anything about it to anyone.

My guess is he called the police after his closest friend for 10 years, Epstein, was arrested for his crimes in order to get a sense for anything they might have on him too.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3065508]Wyatt, all that matters with job creation on this forum is who is president. It is blasphemous for you to say that company management has anything to do with job creation or destruction.

I hated Spirit when you flew coach. They had the worst leg room of any flights save for maybe Frontier, but when I upgraded to the big seats, they were great and even better than business class in the American majors. There is not much to mourn with the death of Spirit, but I am going to miss those seats:[/QUOTE]Elvis, there is always a visceral response to Presidential actions. I try to tell friends and family stick to a specific issue / policy and we can have more clarity even if we disagree. If one falls into the rabbit hole of opposing the President (whoever that is) on every matter, I think the dialogue suffers.

I flew Spirit a couple of times when I was doing a quick turnaround. I had just an under-the-seat backpack. I usually paid for the big seat. I remember the regular seats were no thicker than cheap, plastic patio chairs. LOL.

Now as far as the viability of Spirit, it will make no difference with some members here that we were saying Spirit would not survive after the Jet Blue merger was blocked two years ago. Having some foresight offers absolutely zero credibility on political forums. No one's going to say "hey, that was a good take". The emotion is slightly fueled by the fact that the merger was blocked by the Biden Administration. So building on your thoughts above, Biden saved Spirit jobs and Trump destroyed them. You know that's the facts Elvis. (wink).

I have thoughts on why budget airlines do better in Europe. I think it's because there are so many great short-haul destinations where the planes can do quick turnarounds. Flying Spirit for over two hours could be very uncomfortable.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3065547]And WWI?

There was no 1917 version of the fully confirmed, twice by Trump himself, Iran Nuclear Deal to monitor, restrict and control Germany's submarine warfare across the oceans threatening everyone. But if there had been and Trump was president at the time you could count on him to tear it up as the proactive reason America joined the War if not started it entirely. However, since that wasn't the case, WWI was hardly "Wilson's War" as it would have been Trump's War in that hypothetical.[/QUOTE]Actually, it's kind of known the United States was not exactly neutral in the early part of World War I. When the Lusitania was sunk by a German sub it was carrying a large amount of munitions and war materials.

I don't know exactly why Hitler declared war on the United States after Pearl Harbor. Some say it was because he viewed the USA As a belligerent country. Again, the United States was sending military aid to Britain and the Soviet Union. Anyway, it gave Roosevelt the reason he wanted to get into the European conflict.

[QUOTE=Canada;3065935]Please provide me with the name of one of the underage girls. You can't because there aren't any. So quit your lies. It is embarrassing.[/QUOTE]You'll have the proof when Trump's DOJ quits fucking around and releases everything they have. Did Pam Biondi say that she had them on her desk?

[QUOTE=Canada;3065937]Trump didn't have proof that Obama wasn't a citizen. That is why he demanded Obama provide his birth certificate. And Obama refused for years to show proof. Once Obama showed a birth certificate (real or fake) Trump stopped. That is why you should stop your lies unless you have proof of what you are posting.[/QUOTE]How can justify any rational person who makes such a request? How come Trump did not ask for Ted Cruzs' birth certificate when it is fact that he was born in Canada? How can you reconcile that Obama was born in Hawaii (A US State) and Cruz being a natural born Canadian?

Why do you feel the need to defend Trump? If he can't take it let him leave office-crybaby!

[QUOTE=Canada;3065785]Yes I am Canadian. Socialism is out of control here. Health care system is a joke. Taxes are ridiculous. Gas prices are $8 CDN a gallon and we have more oil than USA. Carney is a joke. He has handled the trade issue with USA terribly and may possibly ruin the Canadian economy. Canada has tariffs on everything coming into Canada from all countries and even charges tariffs between our provinces. He was elected because he was going to be tough with Trump. It was like Peewee Herman saying he was going to be tough with Hulk Hogan. Wasn't a fair fight. Still has time to be dumber than Trudeau. Canada inflation s equivalent to Biden inflation. Unfortunately Canada does not have a Trump as Prime Minister. Trump economy is best in the world right now. Canada economy one of the worse. Thank god USA didn't get Harris as president. Thank your lucky stars.[/QUOTE]Some things are in evidence but my Canadian Liberal friends are always in denial.

Canada had a terrible ten-year economic run under Trudeau. We call that a structural issue not cyclical.

Even liberal media outlets at the end, were editorializing about the sluggish productivity growth and low level of business investment.

During Trudeau's tenure there was an expansive increase in Federal employees.

Changing out faces Carney for Trudeau and the ensuing trade battle with the USA Gave the Liberals a new lease on life.