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[QUOTE=Pita123;3023400]Anyone have any experience with Ari Velez? Can't find any reports on any website.

[URL]https://arivelez.carrd.co/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3023424]"Must include meals for dates longer than 4 hours. ".
A little bit demanding it seems, but an Andoks or Jollibee feed might help you reduce costs.[/QUOTE]Guessing that might not cover it. See pix. Covered, and p8,000 for the first hour / pop. P52,000 for 24 hours.

Seems we've given her some advertising.

Caveat: Never heard of her until today.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3023428]Guessing that might not cover it. See pix. Covered, and p8,000 for the first hour / pop. P52,000 for 24 hours.

Seems we've given her some advertising.

Caveat: Never heard of her until today.[/QUOTE]10 k an hour is pretty standard for an IG type starlet. 200 k for a week is, well, . 😊.

Hourly plus travel plus meal (sorry Phil, I doubt Jollie Bee is going to cut it) is just taking the piss. I see that deposits are non refundable and "not deducted from my rate". Does that mean it's on top as well?

Certainly not my target market but give it a go and report back.

My usual caveat is that price and looks are not a predictor of future performance.

Enjoy. G.

P.S. I've never trusted all be&W photos. Screams of editing to me.

G.

Hye Guys, Does anyone know if THE WESTIN MANILA is girl / guest friendly hotel? Anyone which Marriot Hotels are guest friendly?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Pita123;3023400]Anyone have any experience with Ari Velez? Can't find any reports on any website.

[URL]https://arivelez.carrd.co/[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL. This ***** is crazy😂.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3023479]10 k an hour is pretty standard for an IG type starlet.[/QUOTE]Not to forget that p10 K is the rough cost for a Burgos gogo girl. One could argue that the gogo girl is possibly staying the night and offering an extra shot in the morning. The opposing argument for Ari is that she is saving the customer from having to go to a gogo bar, buy multiple LD's, wasting his time. Also some gents, as seen here, are simply not 'bar' types. It might be worth p10 K for a shot if the girl comes to you.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3023479]Hourly plus travel plus meal (sorry Phil, I doubt Jollie Bee is going to cut it) is just taking the piss. [/QUOTE]Not if she's used to getting it. Even if she's no better looking than other pinay, her 'aura' created by her seductive website might keep her in just 1 client per week, netting her from p30 k to p60 k per month. What a life.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3023479]I see that deposits are non refundable and "not deducted from my rate". Does that mean it's on top as well?[/QUOTE]Standard for expensive girls in my country. You are paying her an upfront deposit thru Venmo (like GC) or such, then sending a car for her, coming to you and going home. That's your expense even if something goes wrong and there is no joy time. She might also insist on getting the cash up front before the ditty. Its part of the advance agreement, or she's not bothering to put on her lipstick, much less go outside to meet.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3023479]P.S. I've never trusted all be&W photos. Screams of editing to me.[/QUOTE]Yes. But it also creates an illusion that she's sexual, and will spill such upon you. Years ago there were such girls offering 'tantric sex'. Nobody really knows what that meant, but it seemed somehow thrilling.

[QUOTE=SethMacfarlane;3023550]LOL. This ***** is crazy😂.[/QUOTE]Maybe. Crazy from the perspective that you can get girls for much less in Asia, yes. But both in Phils, and my country, there is a regular niche for high-end girls who quietly command more than the hoi-polloi. For probably a variety of reasons, and here is one: Whales often have to have the best, and they think their large money gets them the best (often it does). They could care less that they could get a similar girl for 1/10 what they paid last night; the simply pay higher, assuming that the larger cash gets them better girls in the long run. As long as there are fellas willing to throw largesse, there will be girls advertising that their poonini (or sexuality) is better than the GND's.

[B]Separately: [/B]

These musings from her site were not written by her. This is educated gringa english. They are most likely either copy / pastes from high-end escorts in the US or elsewhere, or she ran similar thru an AI:

[I]Whether were savoring deep conversations, sharing slow-burning touches, or losing ourselves in uninhibited passion, every moment with me is designed to be immersive, an intoxicating blend of warmth, chemistry, and adventure.
Lets embark on an exquisite journey together, one filled with laughter, depth, sensuality, and blissful release. Allow me to be your muse, your secret indulgence, your unforgettable escape. And when our time draws to a close, youll find yourself replaying every glance, every whisper, every sensation until we meet again.[/I]

And:

[I]All experiences are fully consensual, safety-focused, and grounded in mutual respect and chemistry[/I]

There are plenty of whales in the US who see this kind of advertising and think of it as titilating, wondering what she's like IRL. He's fine dropping $20,000 USD for a full night, willing to risk her being a dud, just to see if she is intriguing. And such fellas in Phils who will do the same with p20,000.

The following are also typical of expensive escort's in the US:

[I]A 20% deposit is mandatory for this service.
Please be aware that I need all travel expenses to be taken care of as well.[/I]

And:

[I] Punctuality. I value both your time and mine. I make every effort to arrive a few minutes ahead of our scheduled meeting. On the rare occasion that I may be late, I will always inform you in advance. I have a 15 mins. grace period, beyond that, I may cancel (with deposit forfeited) or charge you an additional hour if you wish to pursue our appointment.

Deposits. To reserve our time together, I require a 1,500 PHP security deposit. This small, meaningful gesture covers my travel and preparation, and most importantly, reflects your sincere desire to see me. The deposit is non-refundable and not deducted from my rate. You may send it via GCash, PayPal, or discreetly through any 7-Eleven Kiosk if both isnt available to you.

Verification. I require a photo of the room number of your hotel/unit together with the room keycard 2-3 hours before your preferred time to verify your legitimacy as a client and prevent any potential hoaxes.[/I]

Is it just me or is anyone think it a bit odd size 10 US shoe.

[QUOTE=Transporter;3023580]Is it just me or is anyone think it a bit odd size 10 US shoe.[/QUOTE]No. Of course not. Unless its bakla.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3023568]Not to forget that p10 K is the rough cost for a Burgos gogo girl. One could argue that the gogo girl is possibly staying the night and offering an extra shot in the morning. The opposing argument for Ari is that she is saving the customer from having to go to a gogo bar, buy multiple LD's, wasting his time. Also some gents, as seen here, are simply not 'bar' types. It might be worth p10 K for a shot if the girl comes to you.

Not if she's used to getting it. Even if she's no better looking than other pinay, her 'aura' created by her seductive website might keep her in just 1 client per week, netting her from p30 k to p60 k per month. What a life.

Standard for expensive girls in my country. You are paying her an upfront deposit thru Venmo (like GC) or such, then sending a car for her, coming to you and going home. That's your expense even if something goes wrong and there is no joy time. She might also insist on getting the cash up front before the ditty. Its part of the advance agreement, or she's not bothering to put on her lipstick, much less go outside to meet.

Yes. But it also creates an illusion that she's sexual, and will spill such upon you. Years ago there were such girls offering 'tantric sex'. Nobody really knows what that meant, but it seemed somehow thrilling.

Maybe. Crazy from the perspective that you can get girls for much less in Asia, yes. But both in Phils, and my country, there is a regular niche for high-end girls who quietly command more than the hoi-polloi. [/QUOTE]Just so I'm clear, are we saying that deposits are in addition to that 8 k per hour?

High value, low turn over stock can be a benefit to both parties. The guy gets perceived exclusivity and desirability. The girls gets a great income off a 3 hour work week.

Let's not forget that the true whales aren't the foreigners. Expats always like to think we are the big dicks in town but local industrialists, politicians and the well to do can have playtime budgets that are totally over the top.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3023662]Let's not forget that the true whales aren't the foreigners. Expats always like to think we are the big dicks in town but local industrialists, politicians and the well to do can have playtime budgets that are totally over the top.Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]This is so true, and it took me a good amount of time to realize this. Not until I got tired of the norm (AC, complex, Burgos, etc) and started going to places that locals go to did I realize that I was nothing. Its not until you go to these clubs and see how much these local guys spend on a regular basis can you fathom the difference. A recent example, I went to a place you all know the kind of place where you get the fishbowl and you select the room type and you do your thing. Well I know some of the girls (we meet outside occasionally) and when I was done my session and having a beer, one of my acquaintances all smiles came up to chat with me, she said the guy just gave her 30 K tip. Keep in mind I was all in for 3 K for the same thing and as it turns out this guy comes once a week and does the same thing. If you are capable or do go to some of the GM type clubs you notice the same thing, all the big spenders are locals, I rarely see any foreigners in there at all (keep in mind the bottom end of the girl prices start at 10 K, and that is on top of the table and food and drink packages).

[QUOTE=Goferring;3023662]Just so I'm clear, are we saying that deposits are in addition to that 8 k per hour?[/QUOTE]A hard yes. Speaking about higher-end gals in the US. From her perspective, your advance money is for her time, preparation, and transportation (regardless of whether or not the ditty is performed or paid for, which is separate). If you violate any of her pre-discussed hard rules, she walks and you lose the deposits. High-end gals in LV and LA have told me as much. Interestingly in their mind, they didn't take anything from you. The deposits represents what would be payment inclusive of her time preparing herself and getting to / from you. The deposit is also, in her mind, a "serious-ness" fee, to eliminate cheap charlies who only want to dick her around town, not intending to finalize the deal (too poor to pay the bigger fee for her service). Some girls keep their own limo service on-call (paid for with deposit money).

In addition to your pre-paid deposit, when she arrives at your place, she will pick up and purse your separate playtime money even before she removes her coat. Complete pre-payment for service.

This idea of paying for a girl's "pre-bonk" time is for high-end escorts (and Seeking) and whales, and appears to have crept eastward. Also high-end girls require a cover.

There was a documentary about a decade ago regarding escorts in LV. One gal got a call from a regular client to meet him the next day at a certain time. She started dolling up several hours prior. Half an hour prior a limo picked her up. The interviewer and camera went along for the limo ride. At one point the interviewer asked her if she had already collected the deposit. She replied that she didn't need to, as he was a regular, and he would include the deposit money when she arrived for service. Then her phone rang, and the whale had to cancel the appointment. She tried hard to get him to keep the appointment, but he said he could not. When she hung up the call, she burst into tears, complaining that she had wasted several hours and paid for the limo.

For you and me, an agreed 1-hour 1-pop is 1 hour of work. For the girl, it might mean half a day's work or more.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3023662]Expats always like to think we are the big dicks in town but local industrialists, politicians and the well to do can have playtime budgets that are totally over the top.[/QUOTE]Concur. Most foreigners are either simple retirees, or 2-week warriors, and don't usually represent whales.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3023697]A hard yes. Speaking about higher-end gals in the US. From her perspective, your advance money is for her time, preparation, and transportation (regardless of whether or not the ditty is performed or paid for, which is separate). If you violate any of her pre-discussed hard rules, she walks and you lose the deposits. High-end gals in LV and LA have told me as much. Interestingly in their mind, they didn't take anything from you. The deposits represents what would be payment inclusive of her time preparing herself and getting to / from you. The deposit is also, in her mind, a "serious-ness" fee, to eliminate cheap charlies who only want to dick her around town, not intending to finalize the deal (too poor to pay the bigger fee for her service). Some girls keep their own limo service on-call (paid for with deposit money).

In addition to your pre-paid deposit, when she arrives at your place, she will pick up and purse your separate playtime money even before she removes her coat. Complete pre-payment for service.

This idea of paying for a girl's "pre-bonk" time is for high-end escorts (and Seeking) and whales, and appears to have crept eastward. Also high-end girls require a cover.

There was a documentary about a decade ago regarding escorts in LV. One gal got a call from a regular client to meet him the next day at a certain time. She started dolling up several hours prior. Half an hour prior a limo picked her up. The interviewer and camera went along for the limo ride. At one point the interviewer asked her if she had already collected the deposit. She replied that she didn't need to, as he was a regular, and he would include the deposit money when she arrived for service. Then her phone rang, and the whale had to cancel the appointment. She tried hard to get him to keep the appointment, but he said he could not. When she hung up the call, she burst into tears, complaining that she had wasted several hours and paid for the limo.

For you and me, an agreed 1-hour 1-pop is 1 hour of work. For the girl, it might mean half a day's work or more.

Concur. Most foreigners are either simple retirees, or 2-week warriors, and don't usually represent whales.[/QUOTE]Long time ago in Las Vegas my neighbor was into that line of work, she and her best GF. They were getting $10 K / day each, and flying to NY few times a month for extended weekends, and many times they were part of a larger group of escorts hired for the weekend.

They were a constant presence at my house because she didn't have a swimming pool, and I was enjoying having topless girls, or sometimes naked, hanging around mine. My ex wife, that looked hotter than them was doing the neighbor together with me sometimes in the jacuzzi, we never got her GF.

The ex was an aesthetician in one of the upscale casino spas, and she was taking care of their faces (for lots of money) then found out we were living next door, and that's how we got involved with her, afterwards she moved the weekly face grease smearing to our house (more convenient for everybody).

Despite the fact that we were extremely intimate, she never elaborated about the stuff going on in NY, and with whom, I always imagined an "Eyes Wide Shut" type of scenario.

I forgot about those crazy times 30 years ago, until you were talking about this high end escort here. One vivid scene comes to mind: the neighbor laying on her back with the head resting in my wife's lap, her working on her face massaging it, and me licking her pussy, that's what you call good customer service. Of course the grease smearing it all ended with a real facial that my ex carefully spread it evenly over her face.

One John that was visiting her in LV, bought her a house in Summerlin which was the most expensive / exclusive part of town at that time, and she moved away, then later moved to Europe, I guess her saving account was fat. When she moved my ex got tons of Gucci, Yves, etc stuff from her. I saw the neighbor now on FB, and 30 years later she still looks fabulous. It appears she married a male model, made a kid, than divorced.

She knew what she was doing, she was a lawyer but never practiced, at least when I knew her.

This is a pic of her now:

[QUOTE=Skyline25;3023530]Hye Guys, Does anyone know if THE WESTIN MANILA is girl / guest friendly hotel? Anyone which Marriot Hotels are guest friendly?

Thanks![/QUOTE]I haven't stayed there myself, but in a chat with Manila Courtesans they confirmed "Yes. We send girls there frequently". I have always stayed at Marriott Manila (airport) and they are definitely girl friendly. Never showed ID. Just went to the room. Same with Sheraton Manila Bay. Have stayed there once.

I was on short 2 day trip to Manila.

So looked over to the MC website as it was suggested in many posts over here.

Booked a girl from there for 4500 PHP for 2 hours.

And booked a hotel Red Planet for meeting.

She came wearing a nice dress.

We both had shower together and some fun over there.

The service was really professional and she did gave a nice BJ.

The kitty was also fine.

However, she was atleast 6 years old than mentioned on the website.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a luxury barber shop in the Manila metro area? Something where men are pampered with a good haircut shave, 4 hands massage etc like the ones in Thailand and Vietnam?

[QUOTE=IndianGenie;3024362]Does anyone have a recommendation for a luxury barber shop in the Manila metro area? Something where men are pampered with a good haircut shave, 4 hands massage etc like the ones in Thailand and Vietnam?[/QUOTE]Is there such a thing in Philippines?