Bangkok Reports

Had a session there, because always walked past on way to get my car from parking lot (which is just a open grass area). Anyways I looked at the book went with mimi, she loos nothing like her photo (she is the mimi in white dress) , but that was cool she was friendly and I enjoyed her good personality. She gave a great massage very firm and felt like the real deal. 8/10.

She then took off her towel explained the tip situation and she went for it, great oral skills and nice sex in all positions. Over all 8/10 for the sex. Was a little expensive for the tip as I can tip 1500 at tulip and here was 2000. Side note about anal, BBFS and toys pm if you interested.

But I would at least recommend or visit.

I really enjoyed your post. I think that last part really sums up, how to enjoy your time with the ladies with out tying to pay the least amount possible, good work.

[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1359121]Just returned from south of Thailand too Bangkok late at night.

"pai ko Samet tae mai set" said the hot little tanned thing in the 7Eleven (near to Nana Plaza and Annies) , talking to her friend the cashier. LOL. It rhymes and means "I went to Koh Samet (with some customer presumably) but did not have any orgasm".

A Thai working girl expects to enjoy the sex and is disappointed when his technique or style wasn't suiting her.

I went into Rainbow 4. One pretty girl appealed (or 2 or 3). Called one over for a drink. She got to the bar fine part within the first minute I think. I asked how long I would get. One hour was the reply. I said "not long enough". The reply "What's wrong? You can't finish and want to boom-boom too long?". I just don't want to be rushed. That would interfere with me having a fun time. We never got to the price part. I said no thanks pretty quickly, and ran away to Soi Cowboy where I know I can get guaranteed super-fun girls.

Sheba has just closed so all the Sheba girls are now in Suzi Wong. Sheba could not afford the new rent. New owners: Shark owner is said to have a half share with I forget who. Thankfully, its not "the Arab" setting up another silly Coyote bar. Of course I guess some of the Sheba mamasans, cashiers and DJs may have lost their jobs. Obviously SW has a lot of girls now. Best ones went early in the evening. No problem I could still find some suitable Suzi / Sheba girls.

Yao is a good dancer with cute arse is just finished dancing rotation, and is happy to see me. She is just first day back from up country and so is very horny after a period of no sex. In the next rotation Not is dancing and keeps making faces to me. She expects I am hot for her, but why aren't I calling her over for a drink too. I play the little game. There is no nod to indicate "come here". She must keep going. I am admiring the hot smooth shaven body. Eventually, after my eyes have feasted, I call her over. Haven't been watching girls dancing nude for some time, so not totally bored by it. I stay for the Lesbian show and one other with little Not on my lap. BF Yao and Not. Neither has tits of any size but both have nice curves waist to bum, and very cute arses. Both have pretty faces to my taste, at least well above average, if not stunners.

Very leasurely double trouble back at Hotel with Yao and Not, starting with the shower show. Neither girl smokes. Great to be tongue kissing both of them concurrently. I then do DATY for each of them in turn with the other kissing and playing with the other's tits. Next I get a dual blow job. One takes the pole and the other the balls. Wow this is heaven.

Both were rather tight and had to stretch their pussies out gradually. Yao is made slightly longer inside and can take the full length much quicker. She fits me absolutely perfectly. You know, some girls are too large and sloppy, some too tight. Her pussy muscles contract to massage the dick, while you do her. She is wanting to come again. Both were done in various positions. Sometimes would be fucking one in some position and she would have her fingers deep in the other girl's pussy and kissing her. They are not really lesbians but seem to into Bi-sexual stuff in a big way.

In all, was one of my best 2 girl sessions ever. Both girls seemed really horny. Several condoms used. Total time. 2 hours plus. I just don't like to rush it. Prices never discusssed, but give them generous tips based on the length of time, the energy and effort they put in, and how much enjoyment I got. I like girls to understnad that if they really produce an outstanding session, they will get rewarded for it. Its its ordinary they will receive ordinary money."Carrot and the stick". Thankfully I did not take a Rainbow 4 girl and get a rushed for a business like quickie. Okay I know that not every girl in R4 will be that way, but picking the right one could be hit and miss. Its just much easier to find the Sanook-plus girls in Suzi Wong (Cowboy).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperRaven;1359229]She then took off her towel explained the tip situation and she went for it, great oral skills and nice sex in all positions. Over all 8/10 for the sex. Was a little expensive for the tip as I can tip 1500 at tulip and here was 2000. Side note about anal, BBFS and toys pm if you interested.[/QUOTE]1500 is the going rate for FS. As this is not an ANAL place, girls usually ask for more. 2k for FS and Anal is a good price, usually they add 1k to the fee (2, 5k total)

[QUOTE=Tony Hoeprano;1359211]IMO, he should have put the Budget Bangers around the On Nut BTS area. There's nothing to speak of as far as night life goes, especially the naughty variety and plenty of farangs running around alone or with ugly girls.[/QUOTE]Sadly, this is very true.

Stickman Weekly 9/12/2012:

[URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Livingstones-Bangkok.htm[/URL]


Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Run Mann;1359206]The problem for you Doc is when you retort in kind or in similar fashion as the very posters you described below, you lose. You are promoting a business and as such when responding to issues about your business your decorum has to be way above the people in the gutter or the bottom rung as you put it. Oddly enough I got a very good BJ from a girl named Rung last night. I'm not telling you anything you don't know but insulting members may make you feel better in real time but in the long run you will join the list of other businesses that are persona non grata on ISG.[/QUOTE]I think the comment he just made before yours is a generic monger and ISG forum member rather than from the guy running a business as DrBJ's.

Incidentally he runs a mongering business.
Incidentally he openly deals with criticisms.
Incidentally (and we don't know much, only the criticising guy can tell if he goes again) he will address some of the issues and correct them for the benefit of his business and his customers (lot of us)

DrBJ (the guy) is straight enough (I can't voucher for honest, LOL) to write here with his business name both when he mongers elsewhere and when he deal with with business discussion. We can say he does that also as a marketing tool (every time he posts the name of the business come out). That could be, of course.

How many of us can't stand guys coming here with questions that demand only one answer: RTFF?
How many times did we comment ""Schools out, kids are back again here"?
Similarly below DrBJ remarks are just like that: an observation of the guys mongering and bothering around.

[QUOTE=Oidar; 1357972]It has gone to the shitter around here.

The night life has gotten just as bad. Spending 3000+ baht guarantees you nothing. Once you accept that most girls only want to offer covered sex for as long it takes you to bust a nut, it makes BKK the same as many American, Canadian, and European cities where you can easily find all races of w*ores.

Bangkok's a great city, everybody should come here once. But now to come here repeatly for mongering is flat out, fucking stupid.[/QUOTE]

Fully agree. Bangkok sex scene went down the drain in a fairly short time span (back in 2008 it was still good). GFE used to be the norm and is now the thing of the past. In the good old days, ST was often a leisurely 1-2h with no limits and one could get a girl for LT knowing there's an 80% chance it would go well, but these days it's a rare thing, most aim for a 15min one-shot affair, and if you specifically ask them for two shots or to go to a place 20min away many decline, and those who agree bolt out as soon as done. Quality of working girls is terrible compared to civilians in the streets. Prices are not so cheap either, especially given the service decline. The only saving grace for Bangkok is sheer quantity, which is still massive compared to other cities.

Pattaya is still holding on, but service there declined too to a large extent (although it's far better than Bangkok)... at least prices are reasonable, so missing a few does not matter much.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1359187]Very good advice. While the vast majority of posters use the forum in a constructive way there is always the "moronic" minority who are no more than sad keyboard warriors. I get the impression these people don't even go to most of the places they write negatively about and simply jump on the bandwagon of other genuine posters. If you stop to consider their approach it is quite tragic, imagine switching on your computer every day and thinking to yourself "right, what spiteful negative bile can I spew undeservedly onto various internet forums"? As an example, when I go out I always have a positive attitude (I am not saying I feel on top of the world all the time and when I am not in a good mood I just don't go out). This rubs off on the people around you and generates a positive atmosphere for everyone.

On the other hand some people go out with completely the wrong attitude thinking "someone will probably try to rip me off tonight","these girls are trying to take as much money for as little service as possible","I don't like all these Japanese, Indians, Americans, British (especially those Scottish ones)","Bangkok is not the place it used to be ten years ago","I have been coming to Thailand for fifteen years and deserve to be shown more respect" and on and on. Then they come on forums like this one and protest about what a shit time they had the other night. I think in future I will take some of the "bottom rung of the evolutionary scale" posters less seriously.

Regards.

BJ[/QUOTE]OK, the good Dr. Is promoting his business, however I wish to add a dissenting report. I visited the premises earlier this year and had a geat BJ from a 700Baht girl which the Dr. Recommended. The place was clean, no filthy curtains, a distinct and seperate private room with AC, well run and the girl gave great service (at the 15 minute mark she told me I had 15 mins. Left) so I was then able to concentrate on emptying my sack which I luckily was able to do at the 29 minute mark. I left there happy and will return again early next year. End of story. He has a business and some cutomers are satified.

If the good DR, offers me a discount, I will gladly accept.

Johnie

[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1359187]I get the impression these people don't even go to most of the places they write negatively about and simply jump on the bandwagon of other genuine posters. If you stop to consider their approach it is quite tragic, imagine switching on your computer every day and thinking to yourself "right, what spiteful negative bile can I spew undeservedly onto various internet forums"? As an example, when I go out I always have a positive attitude (I am not saying I feel on top of the world all the time and when I am not in a good mood I just don't go out). This rubs off on the people around you and generates a positive atmosphere for everyone.[/QUOTE]Very well put. I agree entirely. Your only problem is that you should consider censoring yourself more and not saying precisely what you think, at least as "Dr BJ". Let others say it instead will work better for you. Perhaps you should have another secret handle and use that for all normal reports on the forum without it being known that it is Dr BJ. Otherwise everyone just questions your motives on every single post and every little point you make.

Dr. BJ should stick to reporting pure fact that cannot be disputed. I think you will find Giotto puts in less and less opinion, especially about his business and sticks to facts as far as possible.
I just suggest based on what I would try to do if I was a business owner. Obviously its entirely your choice.

[QUOTE=MisterMonger; 1359072]I'm not really a value monger per se. I like to visit the best places a city has to offer. That being said. What are the best brothels, massage parlors, girl bars, etc. In the city. Is there a more upscale district for these sort of places?

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you mean upmarket rather than upscale. The whole of Sukhumvit from Soi 4 through to Soi? Is upscale with a huge number of massage parlours and also many bars in selected locations.

[QUOTE=Crocodilexp; 1359481]Fully agree. Bangkok sex scene went down the drain in a fairly short time span (back in 2008 it was still good). GFE used to be the norm and is now the thing of the past. In the good old days, ST was often a leisurely 1-2h with no limits and one could get a girl for LT knowing there's an 80% chance it would go well, but these days it's a rare thing, most aim for a 15min one-shot affair, and if you specifically ask them for two shots or to go to a place 20min away many decline, and those who agree bolt out as soon as done. Quality of working girls is terrible compared to civilians in the streets. Prices are not so cheap either, especially given the service decline. The only saving grace for Bangkok is sheer quantity, which is still massive compared to other cities.

Pattaya is still holding on, but service there declined too to a large extent (although it's far better than Bangkok). At least prices are reasonable, so missing a few does not matter much.[/QUOTE]Tis a shame actually. 13 years ago when I moved here, it was, well, quite a paradise. Less developed, cheaper, lots of WGs with pretty good attitudes. Now, can't say the same. I would agree that the late stages of the decline have been fairly rapid, almost geometric. Less than attractive girls demanding big money and giving very little in the way of performance. The lookers know they can milk the new guys for big bucks. Just like any other place on the planet. You can get a wham bam in TX with an Asian gal for 140 USD. Here if you have a few drinks and take a gogo chick, you are almost at that figure.

I was back in my home state of TX not to long ago and actually think that if the decline continues I might consider moving back. Aside from the sex issue, quality of life in TX is pretty good. Great music, craft beers, and hey, plenty of opportunity, the TX economy is going strong. Here, well, face it guys, we move here for the girls. Thais have always just tolerated us and as things develop here they tolerate us less. We are never given a fair shot when it comes to doing biz, etc, so again, we are back to the gals. Will ride it out a year or two more and see how things go.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1359524]I was back in my home state of TX not to long ago and actually think that if the decline continues I might consider moving back. Aside from the sex issue, quality of life in TX is pretty good. Great music, craft beers, and hey, plenty of opportunity, the TX economy is going strong. Here, well, face it guys, we move here for the girls. Thais have always just tolerated us and as things develop here they tolerate us less. We are never given a fair shot when it comes to doing biz, etc, so again, we are back to the gals. Will ride it out a year or two more and see how things go.[/QUOTE]I completely Disagree. Thailand (and especially Bangkok) is just dealing with progress and I think they are handling themselves pretty well given the circumstances (Economical, Political and others). Yes Bangkok is becoming more like its sister cities, yes prices are increasing and yes, girls are driving better prices. Blaming Thailand is just not fair.

Thais are just taking advantage or us because we are a bunch of Lame Fuckers (for the most part).

Think about it, if guys would refuse to pay 3k for the night, then the girls would lower their prices wouldn't they? But no, there are always some people to pay for it.

Girl gives bad service, customer still tips.

Girl in the room and says she has to leave in a hurry but still demands money.

Girl does not get the money she wants, creates a tantrum and the guy finally pays.

Girls says to her friend that she got 1500 from her client and she did not do BJ, not allow fingering or DATY and not do CG or Doggy. Girl#2 is stunned as she gets 1500 for Anal and all sorts of services she allows.

AND, I saved the best for Last:

A moron on this forum writing in his report that the girl at NATAREE did not allow him to lick her pussy, so he paid 1, 000 thb more for the "Privilege". Now I am wondering how many girls will try the same stunt.

The problem is not with Thai girls, it's with the 90% of idiots that are not aware about Forums or pricing structures.

For the record, I came here because the employment offer was too good to pass up. Believe it or not, I did not even consider Mongering in my decision to move to Thailand. (I had never been here before).

[QUOTE=Oldian;1358314]Prices have not come down, they have gone up. But strangely enough, in front of the Nana car park and thereabouts girls ask 1000 with no bargaining needed. There are occasionally some cuties, but most want quickies at nearby hotels[/QUOTE]Prices certainly go up, but not very fast. I remember when going to a soapy 10 to 12 years ago, that the tip for the girl for sex was 1K. So if standard tip for a baseline girl is now 1. 5K, that is only 50% increase in 10 years. Not too bad really and besides my home currency is worth a lot more Baht than what it was many years ago, which negates most of the price rise.

[QUOTE=Oidar;1357972]The night life has gotten just as bad. Spending 3000+ baht guarantees you nothing. Once you accept that most girls only want to offer covered sex for as long it takes you to bust a nut, it makes BKK the same as many American, Canadian, and European cities where you can easily find all races[/QUOTE]Many girls finally have woken up that they should not do bare-back.

I know of one girl that worked the Thermae Soapy 20 years ago, quite cute, and is still a WG supporting her pimp who gambles etc. As she was willing to do uncovered, it was only a matter of time till she eventually got Aids. Aids does not stop her working and she probably sees little reason not to allow bareback still. Many of her customers would have been Thais, who like bareback. I have never been with her, as I used to do her close friend, in old times.