Jakarta

[QUOTE=BroComplex;3020251]How to get to this area and is it safe?

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6q8VG4upI1Y[/URL]

There are many videos on this channel inside classic, travel and many other shady areas.[/QUOTE]Maybe read my post a year ago with all the details plus a map.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3020309]Would love to try Michat girls, but would they come to Classic hotel?[/QUOTE]

Most girls would come to any hotel including Classic if you're staying there as a guest with a room. However, the Classic Hotel is better known as a brothel hotel than an actual hotel, so it might carry a certain stigma and would look like bringing sand to the beach, a better option might be to stay at nearby hotels like Yuan Garden, Heef, Grand G7 and have them come over there instead.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3020263]I think this is the same train track location at the intersection of Jl. Bandengan Utara III and Jl. Liberia Dalam III (look for Dapur Nyonya Adel restaurant). The stairs are directly across from this restaurant, very narrow, steep, and tricky to climb that will lead you to the track and then start walking towards east. The location itself is rough and a bit risky to reach but is safe, you won't get roughed up. I've visited a few places like this in Jakarta, Cibitung, and Bandung, unless you're going purely for a cultural "been there, done that" experience, I wouldn't recommend going there with the intention of partaking. The videos are enticing, but rooms are made of plywood, with no bathroom, water, towels, and you'll encounter rats, roaches, mosquitoes besides girls.[/QUOTE]Yes, there is no danger, except the trains passing high speed next to you!

Don't go before 9:00. Best after 10:00 to late. There are some shops where you can get a simple drink. Sit down, relax and watch the scene. Older girls may approach you and suggest.

Some of their younger work collegues, new to the business. The huts are primitive: just a matress and a dim light. Take wet towels along -- and enjoy this unique special location. I think 170 k is the local fare. But you will get recognized as a newcomer and they will ask for 200 k.

She said around $250 per semester at Grade B college but now she wants to go to grade A ($626). I told her that if she gets a C, I'll cut her off.

[QUOTE=Chilli1;3020148]How much you agreed.

Few thousand dollars all her college years?

If you were only for month or two vs you stay indo long term.

Maybe GFE side experience without living together.[/QUOTE]

About papisan, the only one whom I know is David at Emporium. He's gay so the girls are cool with him. I recommend him if you have the dough. On my previous trip, I spent all my time at Emporium: had breakfast, went on a tour of the museums, then went to Emporium at 2 pm and didn't leave until 9 pm. On average, I fucked 3 girls everyday in there. One at 2 pm, then rested in the cabana by the pool and watched other men taking girls to the pool, then one more girl. After that, dinner at Wilde Cut restaurant, then back to Emporium for the last time.

[QUOTE=GaijinGigolo;3020277]Where do you plan to find a 'papi'? Classic and Travel and run by mamasans and you don't need to be buying them drinks. Just tell them the kind of girl you are looking for and reject any you don't immediately click with.

Also, do not tell them you plan to publish your experiences. They do not need nor want that. That would only work to your disadvantage in that they will now not trust you. Bad, bad idea.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grafspee;3020250]Im just a white walking piggy bank to them anyway, why not try to use in my advantage? 50-100 k means nothing to me.
[/QUOTE]I'm not convinced your generous 5 euro tip is going to do anything for you at all in a place like classic. And as others have said already, speaking of any publicity will only get you negative attention. These places (Classic, travel, malio, emporium all owned by the same) are already known by those who need to know.

What you are saying is that you should be visiting 1001 and emporium, 2 places where, on arrival mami or papi WILL sit down with you on a couch, ask you preferences and make recommendations or offer a select lineup. Its their job. The girls are to a higher standard, and are paid to put the effort in. Sure it costs more, but its what you are asking for.

Remember one persons bragged about 'super hot young thing' might be your 'unfit, bit out of shape mid 20's'. Which is what most of the classic girls are.

[QUOTE=Grafspee;3020250]That would be my logic, even though they do not fuck their girls, they must know from the customers which girls on average get a good rapport with them and which have a high degree of complaints. And unless I tip them, what is their motivation to share this knowledge with me? None, they will just want to unload just any girl on me and fuck off to entertain a group of rich Chinese blokes.

I'm just a white walking piggy bank to them anyway, why not try to use in my advantage? 50-100 k means nothing to me.

Also in Thailand this can work quite well, not sure why Jakarta would be different? And taking no more than 5 minutes to talk to me is literally the description of their job, cannot agree with the argument that they do not have time for this, sorry.[/QUOTE]

Well, the guys saying they will not care about your tip are mostly right, I think. Once you get there you will see it's too much of a conveyor belt setup. That, coupled with you not speaking bahasa, and most of the mamasans being obnoxious and pushy, giving them a 100k note out of the blue, before or after, is not going to make them care. Personally, I wouldn't bother giving them any tip, but you might try and see how it goes. Maybe you can report back if so.

If you by coincidence meet a mamasan there you get along with, and who you can chat/joke with a bit, things can be a bit better and more honest, but most of them creep me out, so that's no easy task. I only tipped the one I did get along with after several visits, and that was just because she was not constantly creeping me out, and treated me ok (though as you see, many others here disagree about her).

She even messaged me on whatsapp one early afternoon, giving the name of a new girl working there today that she thought I would like. Unfortunately I only saw the message later, after she saw me coming back from the rooms with a girl from another mamasan, and told me about sending me the message earlier. When a few days later I wanted to go with the girl she had mentioned, she was already gone.
Same as a hot and cool (sounds like an oxymoron, but you know what I mean) girl I banged a few days earlier, and who I planned to repeat with later. Was still working there the next one or two days, but then: gone. First time in my mongering life I've even given a thought to paying anyone to stay overnight I think.

In my limited experience it seems that the few really hot girls that do turn up at Classic are soon gone to somewhere else, as the same thing happened last year also. Banged a really hot girl (hotter than anyone I've seen at e.g. Emporivm), and then never saw her again. Not working at Classic any more.

Got to love this cohort of Jakarta adventurers that want the proscriptive adventure based on google translate. Will you kiss me? Will you give me BJ? ,You must give me good service. What are you buying? A horse?

Starting out with a list of demands on google translate is a sure fire way to kill the mood. Ditto for paying the mami, she don't care unless you have history with her. The last customer wanted chubby, the next one small. How on earth is she meant to be able second guess your already convoluted needs as shown to her on your phone screen.

Here's a tip. Floss your teeth, lose the beer belly, smile like you mean it, dress nicely and relax. There are some magnificent experiences to be had in Jakarta where those little hotties can be writhing in pleasure. But standing there interviewing the girls like King Pring is highly unlikely to get you there. Whether you like it or not, attraction is still part of the chemistry even in these places.

[QUOTE=NuttinSerious;3020373] 'unfit, bit out of shape mid 20's'. Which is what most of the classic girls are.[/QUOTE]Perfect description of what I've seen in both Classic and Travel. Plus 80% of them seem bored and sad and would give anything to be somewhere else. Sure, there are a few very nice ones on occasion but I've yet to see a girl at either place that really does it for me.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3020315]The OP probably doesn't realise that the Asian business model of commissions from Ladies Drinks is a rarity in Indonesia. The girls and everyone else make money from fucking not drinking and talking for hours.

Mention internet posts, reviews and photos and expect to instantly become an ignored leper. The OP may even be surrounded by roided up bouncers and bodily escorted out of the building. I'd agree, it's not a good idea.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]YEP. Clearly he's never been there.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;3020309]Would love to try Michat girls, but would they come to Classic hotel?[/QUOTE]They'll meet you basically anywhere, so yes. I mean Classic and Travel exist solely for prostitution, so.

[QUOTE=LetMeIn6969;3020365]She said around $250 per semester at Grade B college but now she wants to go to grade A ($626). I told her that if she gets a C, I'll cut her off.[/QUOTE]So less than the cost of two days at Emporivm for you per semester then? ;-) Doesn't sound too bad.

So, had my first Classic experience today. Thanks to the YouTube videos and the advice on here, I at least had an idea of where I was going.

Still, it was a bit of an assault on the senses. I sat down at one of the bar tables and I was immediately approached by a mamasan called LengLeng who for reasons best known to her told me to sit at the table behind. I duly complied and she wheeled out a selection of girls. None of them looked too enthusiastic but I selected one who was to my liking. Her English was almost non existent though so it made the chat all rather strained. She smiled at the right moments when I translated GFE etc. It all seemed fine so I paid up and off we went. Once we got down to things though, she started making noises about a CBJ. I resisted but she then said that mamasan would be angry. I reminded her that Mamasan was upstairs and she relented. It did take some persuasion though and it was all a bit of a mood killer. Anyway, once it was all done she started asking for a tip. I gave her the stapled notes and she looked appalled and kept saying "red, red, red!" TBH, I thought she was going to make screen so I added another 20 k. She still wasn't happy but I told her that if she hadn't made such a fuss about the CBJ it might have been more. I could tell by this stage she was pissed and we walked back upstairs in silence. She didn't even bother with a goodbye. Never mind!

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3020472]So less than the cost of two days at Emporivm for you per semester then? ;-) Doesn't sound too bad.[/QUOTE]Less then one day. If he fucked 3 girls a day there he was spending at least 300 USD.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3020485]Less then one day. If he fucked 3 girls a day there he was spending at least 300 USD.[/QUOTE]But she's starting grade A college now.