Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

Don't be too confident in antibiotics when in Asia. I was for years but not anymore. I picked up gonorrhea in Thailand, had to be from oral as I don't do bareback FS. Second time in my life.

In the US the recommended treatment is 250 mg of Rocephin by injection in the hip and 1 g Azithromycin by pill. That's double the previously suggested treatment because of growing resistance.

In Thailand I was given 1 g Rocephin and 3 g Azithromycin. When I questioned this I was told it's because resistance is huge in Thailand and that they sometimes have to do up to two 1 g injections daily for a week!

Guess what? My pick up was resistant. So I had a week of pissing razors after treatment followed by more painful cotton swab tests and expensive analysis. In the end I needed a huge amount of antibiotics delivered by IV. Huge inconvenience, expense and pain. Maybe that's why the gal at Dr BJs kept asking if I wanted to use a condom.

I've been getting BBBJ for years without fear. You better believe I'm not so keen on it now. Sad state of affairs really.

Seems health officials have seen growing resistance for years, especially in prostitutes, but no new class of antibiotics is being developed because no one wants to spend the money. There's real fear among doctors that an incurable gonorrhea will be along sooner than later.

[QUOTE] Chlamydia and Gonorrhea are asymptomatic in the majority of people[/QUOTE]In women, not men. Gonorrhea causes pain and discharge in 90% of infected men according to the CDC.

[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1608302]Don't be too confident in antibiotics when in Asia. I was for years but not anymore. I picked up gonorrhea in Thailand, had to be from oral as I don't do bareback FS. Second time in my life.

In the US the recommended treatment is 250 mg of Rocephin by injection in the hip and 1 g Azithromycin by pill. That's double the previously suggested treatment because of growing resistance.

In Thailand I was given 1 g Rocephin and 3 g Azithromycin. When I questioned this I was told it's because resistance is huge in Thailand and that they sometimes have to do up to two 1 g injections daily for a week!

Guess what? My pick up was resistant. So I had a week of pissing razors after treatment followed by more painful cotton swab tests and expensive analysis. In the end I needed a huge amount of antibiotics delivered by IV. Huge inconvenience, expense and pain. Maybe that's why the gal at Dr BJs kept asking if I wanted to use a condom.

I've been getting BBBJ for years without fear. You better believe I'm not so keen on it now. Sad state of affairs really.

Seems health officials have seen growing resistance for years, especially in prostitutes, but no new class of antibiotics is being developed because no one wants to spend the money. There's real fear among doctors that an incurable gonorrhea will be along sooner than later.[/QUOTE]There is already a multi-drug resistant gon out there.

"While a condom doesn't eliminate that risk entirely it greatly reduces it and that's a fact. "

Using just one safer sex method, namely a condom, will probably be better than nothing. That's true. But why limit yourself & your partner to so little protection?

"Hand out all the condoms you want, make sure they are used, and there will still be an epidemic of STDs and unplanned pregnancy. Condoms have been around for centuries, in one form or another. They have never been reliable. A user might have an 85% protection rate against HIV, or pregnancy. In the real world, where the users are drunk, or stoned, it's dark, and he is rushing. Are you getting the picture?

Since condoms are so unreliable, I'd advise backup protections, such as recent HIV testing, circumcision, birth control, withdrawal before cumming, etc.

Re pregnancy a typical condom user has greater risk than BBFS with withdrawing.

Re HIV infection a typical condom user has greater risk than a barebacker withdrawing.

[QUOTE=BronzeMan;1608302]
In Thailand I was given 1 g Rocephin and 3 g Azithromycin. When I questioned this I was told it's because resistance is huge in Thailand and that they sometimes have to do up to two 1 g injections daily for a week!

Guess what? My pick up was resistant. So I had a week of pissing razors after treatment followed by more painful cotton swab tests and expensive analysis. In the end I needed a huge amount of antibiotics delivered by IV. Huge inconvenience, expense and pain. Maybe that's why the gal at Dr BJs kept asking if I wanted to use a condom.[/QUOTE]I'm very sorry to hear that, guess you had bad luck. I picked up Gonorrhea or Chlamydia also lately. Went to a pharmacy in Bangkok and was given 4 pills of Azithromycin (1 g in total). Two days later all of the symptoms were gone.

Quoting from:

[URL]http://www.dangerandplay.com/2012/04/27/how-to-avoid-stds-part-2/[/URL]

If you have sex with women, you will regularly come into contact with an STD. Although most STDs do not pose a serious threat to men, there are some ways to avoid them.

Defense Soap has tea tree oil in it. Tea tree oil is anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral. It also has Eucalyptus Globulus another potent antimicrobial.

I keep a bar of soap in my house. I keep a box of Defense Soap wipes (think baby wipes for players) in my car. Stash a couple in a small zip-lock baggie (to keep them moist), throw them in your jacket, and you're covered.

I always wash my cock and balls after sex. I also try [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112][CodeWord112][/url].

I also protect the cock by keeping it well lubricated.

The best condom a man has is the skin on his dick. If your skin is supple and well-hydrated, bacteria has trouble passing through it.

I keep a separate jar of coconut oil in the bathroom to use as a moisturizer and hair glorifier.).

I also regularly use coconut oil as a lubricant: The antiviral activity in coconut oil is unparalleled, even among the most resistant viruses, and the best part is, if it's virgin and organic, there isn't a man-made chemical in the mix.

Apply the oil to your cock, emphasizing the head of your dick. Remember to hit the surrounding areas.

[QUOTE=JohnDough;1610251]Quoting from:

[URL]http://www.dangerandplay.com/2012/04/27/how-to-avoid-stds-part-2/[/URL]

If you have sex with women, you will regularly come into contact with an STD. Although most STDs do not pose a serious threat to men, there are some ways to avoid them.

Defense Soap has tea tree oil in it. Tea tree oil is anti-fungal, anti-bacterial, and anti-viral. It also has Eucalyptus Globulus another potent antimicrobial.

I keep a bar of soap in my house. I keep a box of Defense Soap wipes (think baby wipes for players) in my car. Stash a couple in a small zip-lock baggie (to keep them moist), throw them in your jacket, and you're covered..[/QUOTE]Nice tips.

I use herbal immune system boosters such as Catuaba, Withania somnifera etc in diet.

Hygiene and diet are very important for mongerers.

Hi guys,

Does anyone knows which bars are pretty strict on girls about testing for HIV and STD's?

I know there is a big difference between rosy picture bars, mp would put up and ground reality but still some peace of mind is good.

One of my regular at a high end soapy revealed even though regular HIV checkup is required, many occasions girls skip it for few months.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1611503]Nice tips.

I use herbal immune system boosters such as Catuaba, Withania somnifera etc in diet.

Hygiene and diet are very important for mongerers.[/QUOTE]Hygiene, diet [B]AND[/B] condoms. :)

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1611505]Hi guys,

Does anyone knows which bars are pretty strict on girls about testing for HIV and STD's?

I know there is a big difference between rosy picture bars, mp would put up and ground reality but still some peace of mind is good.

One of my regular at a high end soapy revealed even though regular HIV checkup is required, many occasions girls skip it for few months.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't trust any of the stories about tests put up by some bars or clubs. Neither in Thailand, nor anywhere else. It is not like they have an ISO certificate which is strictly enforced and checked by random inspections from an independent and trusted organization.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1611683]Hygiene, diet [B]AND[/B] condoms. :)[/QUOTE]Condoms were taken for granted.

Later I browsed through few threads and understood why it needs to be mentioned explicitly.

Many people are still taking risk and going bare back.

For me condom is must have accessory.

Do you know what dangerous chemicals your condom is made of:

"Many people have allergies to latex, parabens, and / or glycerin. Using these condoms may cause a local, allergic reaction, which may include vaginal irritation. This inflammation can put you at an increased risk for catching HIV and / or other sexually transmitted infections.

"Yet it seems that condom manufacturers are more likely to indicate whether the condom packaging was made of 100% recyclable material rather than what the actual condom is made of!

"Condoms that include the spermicide nonoxynol-9 can be problematic for some users. Basically, nonoxynol-9 is a type of detergent. It kills sperm and STD-causing organisms / pathogens by agitating the outer barrier membranes of sperm and other cells.

"Parabens have been found in the tissue of cancerous breast tumors, so some research questions whether parabens may be linked to cancer.

"Some doctors believe that using glycerin-containing lubricants can increase your chances of having a yeast infection.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1611505]Hi guys,

Does anyone knows which bars are pretty strict on girls about testing for HIV and STD's?

I know there is a big difference between rosy picture bars, mp would put up and ground reality but still some peace of mind is good.

One of my regular at a high end soapy revealed even though regular HIV checkup is required, many occasions girls skip it for few months.[/QUOTE]Dwanye Johnson,

I am probably wasting my breath because the true is never popular. When they say you are guaranteed the girl is clean. That means she is guaranteed to take a shower and smell clean at least. This is Thailand and testing is not strict or even required in my opinion. But lets say it was very strict and the girls get tested once a month. The girl just got tested Sept 1. She bangs 20 guys some bareback. Now she meet you before her next test and you bang her bareback thinking she was tested just on the first. Even though now is Sept. 22 for example. Do you thing she is still clean? For a beautiful and sweet as some of these girls are. You have to remember Thailand is just a dream not real. Because heaven can turn into hell very fast. It always amazed me how many girls have no problem going bareback with guys. They just don't care.

[QUOTE=DwayneJohnson;1611505]Hi guys,

Does anyone knows which bars are pretty strict on girls about testing for HIV and STD's?

I know there is a big difference between rosy picture bars, mp would put up and ground reality but still some peace of mind is good.

One of my regular at a high end soapy revealed even though regular HIV checkup is required, many occasions girls skip it for few months.[/QUOTE]In a 2012 study ([URL]http://www.aidsdatahub.org/sites/default/files/documents/thailand_country_review.pdf[/URL]) it was stated that among Female Sex Workers only 36% was aware of their HIV status (although not reported I think the figures will be similar for others STDs) [B]down[/B] from 43% in 2007. So you have about 1 in 3 chances the girl knows if she caught something and these figures don't say anything about how long ago the girl was tested. These figures are probably getting worse as the budget for prevention slowly decreases as more and more of the budget is given to care and treatment.

The same study found that HIV and STI (test was for syphilis) prevalence between streetworkers, girls in brothels (this will include all "commercial sex establishments") and "other women not reporting sex work" (the "non-pro" as we call them here) was a staggering 45.8% (38/83), 4.2% (10/236) and 9.9% (28/284) among women attending three public STI clinics in Bangkok (n=684). Note that this is not a "truly random" sample of the SW population, since girls going to an STI clinic for testing may already suspect that there is something wrong and therefore the absolute percentages in the overall population will be less. Furthermore, professional sex workers in a "commercial sex establishment") will probably be more apt (or more required by their place of employment) to get themselves more or less regularly tested even if they think they are still healthy.

The general trend however is that streetworkers present a significantly far higher risk for STI, followed by our cherished "non-pro" girls and the least with the girls working in the "brothels".

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1617810]In a 2012 study ([URL]http://www.aidsdatahub.org/sites/default/files/documents/thailand_country_review.pdf[/URL]) it was stated that among Female Sex Workers

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The same study found that HIV and STI (test was for syphilis) prevalence between street workers, girls in brothels (this will include all "commercial sex establishments") and "other women not reporting sex work" (the "non-pro" as we call them here) was a staggering 45.8% (38/83), 4.2% (10/236) and 9.9% (28/284) among women attending three public STI clinics in Bangkok (n=684).[/QUOTE]That was not the "same study" or a "2012 study", but from one that began more than a decade ago. Hence it has little to no relevance to today, as (1) almost all of the sex trade workers from then are no longer working and (2) HIV rates have dramatically dropped since that time:

"An independent study offering voluntary counselling and testing (VCT) for HIV and syphilis to women attending three public STI clinics in Bangkok (n=684) from May 2004 to June 2006 found much higher levels of HIV and STI, particularly among street-based FSWs. 11 HIV prevalence among the street-based FSWs, brothel-based FSWs and other women not reporting sex work were 45.8% (38/83), 4. 2% (10/236) and 9. 9% (28/284), respectively. The prevalence of syphilis among these populations was 13.3%, 2. 1%, and 2. 6%, respectively. ".

[URL]http://www.aidsdatahub.org/sites/default/files/documents/thailand_country_review.pdf[/URL]

The same source page, which is a "review" not a "study", states:

"Since 1993, there has been a steady decline in HIV prevalence among FSWs. 8 Among direct FSWs (brothel-based), HIV prevalence peaked at 28.3% in 1993 then decreased significantly to 16.0% in 1999 to 4. 6% in 2006 and to 2. 8% in 2009.10; 8 In addition, among indirect FSWs, HIV prevalence has essentially remained below 10%, peaking at 10.1% in 1996 and then slowly decreasing to 3. 5% in 2007 and falling even further to 1. 7% in 2009". (emphasis, mine).