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Dear mongerer,

Actually I am also still planing to arrange threesome one of these hotties.

You are right I don't like my characteristic always, but I do like enjoying different tastes.

Yes she is very tall thanks for alternative Links Kama Leao, actually I couldn't understand reviews but yes it seems all Positive.

I talked to her. I will stay at apartment but she accepts only hotel for outcall so her House is another option. It will be mu first time in Lisboa, do you think it is secure have incall or is it risky?

[QUOTE=KingSalmon1962;2055851]Friends,

I doing my research today for my upcoming trip and noticed a review today on Ana Castro. For those that have Gp-pt, its listed there. For those that don't, a-level was again promised but up until the time of insertion, then exclaimed "No! It took much coaxing and threat of being thrown out to finally achieve insertion. Seems like way too much hassle given the seemingly unendless supply in Portugal.

Regards.

KS.[/QUOTE]I have some concerns about the latest set of reviews on gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL] about escortprivada.

I have tried to hold my tongue to avoid creating trouble, but since you brought it up, I am going to respond even if it makes some people mad.

First and foremost I have seen Ana and my reviews are honest. I do enough reviews on many ISG forums to have some credibility. Ana is a sweet girl who looks like her pictures. Young, very slim, flat chested, pretty, face, great little butt, GFE, and a cheerful attitude. I didn't do anal intercourse with her. She said she was fine with anal play, so we did digital anal play as well as with a toy, which she seemed to like. I am not going to yell at a girl for not doing anal intercourse, nor am I going to basically force her to do so. Maybe on another day, she will be up for it with me. If not, I can still design a great session with her, and like most 18-19 year olds, she is vaginally very tight. I found her to be open-minded with perfect English, and if you have any reasonable fetishes you might want to explore, she might be game. I recommended Ana to a Canadian friend who shares my love for a Montreal escort named Darla, who is a couple of years older and a tad bustier, but otherwise has a body and style much like Ana, and he loved Ana. So I do not think I am the only one who would like her. But Ana is definitely YMMV regarding anal. I don't think based on her body that Ana eats like I do, but there are days after shitting a rock that, if I were a bi-guy (which I am not), I would not feel much like doing anal as the recipient. So I always approach any session as though anal is YMMV.

It appears from the pictures and reviews that Carlota D'Almeida has a similar body as Ana (with apparently larger breasts) and is very outgoing and fun according to the reviews. She advertises anal, so if you like the young, slim type, you might consider her and see if she is up for anal relatively more often than Ana.

Lastly, every review of Alexandra Mendes says she did anal upon request. I prefer doggie-style anal, which is sometimes difficult for a girl to do, and Alexandra just grabbed my dick and stuck it in when I saw her two or three years ago. She speaks perfect English and is fun. So if you absolutely must have anal, consider booking Alexandra, with the knowledge that she is 10-15 pounds heavier than the pictures indicate.

Now to those reviews you mentioned. I occasionally log in to that site to see if any of the reviews interest me for a session and to see if there is anything of use to bring over to this forum. I also like to get the local flavor of cities that I visit. Hell, someday I may and to retire in one of them. And in many cities, particularly Barcelona, you really can't fully successfully monger without using the local board, in my opinion.

I haven't really liked some of what I have seen on gp-pt.net. If this post gets back to them and one day I can't log in, then fine.

A week or so ago, there were four new reports written in English by a brand new member blasting four escortprivada girls for lousy sessions. The guy complained over and over again about the cost, after thanking the other members of the board for the valuable information he received on the forum. The first reaction I had was, if you felt 150 euros is too high, and that escortprivada ladies provide lousy service, why the fuck would you do four consecutive sessions with them, particularly if you had been reading that forum for weeks and encountered endless recommendations for ladies at a lower cost. Escortprivada has never been well thought of on that forum because of the complaints about the higher cost, so someone using that forum for research would not likely have used them as his exclusive source. And if he had been using the forum before booking, would he have not asked some questions in general? Whose first four posts by a legitimate member were all negative reviews of one agency on any forum you have ever read? One of the four ladies he blasted was Zara White, who does have some good reviews on escortprivada. And guess what, a few days later he changed his review of her to be much more positive. It had the look to me of a senior member there creating a new username and writing negative reports in English to discourage English speaking new members from using escortprivada. But when another senior member said, wait, I like Zara, he changed the one review. And those negative reviews from this new member were immediately met with high-five type agreement responses from the posters there who always complain about the prices of escortprivada.

Now this latest review of Ana comes forth. Once again from a new poster. He suggests the best way to get anal from Ana is to yell at her if she is not up for it, and she will get upset, turn red-faced, go into the bathroom, lube up, and provide it. I am not sure if the review is real or not, but I kind of hope not. I really liked Ana, and would prefer that she not be treated that way, since I found her to be sweet girl.

Anyway, you will find plenty of honest reviews on that forum of ladies in the 40-60 euro half hour and 80-100 euro per hour range for incall. You will find no reviews of 150 euro per hour independents like Kelly and all you will find about escortprivada girls other than Zara White is complaining about how they are way too expensive compared to Portugal's minimum wage. Personally, I think there is a concerted effort to do negative reviews of any higher priced provider to either discourage other members from seeing them or to attempt a price control mechanism.

Anyway, end of rant, but I hope it provides perspective. You can't believe everything you read on the Internet, so take that into consideration when reading translated reviews.

I will continue to review the ladies I see, and summarize relevant reviews from the big American and Canadian review boards when Lisbon reviews appear. Those are relatively more likely to be of the higher-cost providers because they are more likely to cater English speakers. But I am not going to summarize reviews that I think may be false or written with an agenda in mind.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2056107]I have some concerns about the latest set of reviews on gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL] about escortprivada.

I have tried to hold my tongue to avoid creating trouble, but since you brought it up, I am going to respond even if it makes some people mad.

First and foremost I have seen Ana and my reviews are honest. I do enough reviews on many ISG forums to have some credibility. Ana is a sweet girl who looks like her pictures. Young, very slim, flat chested, pretty, face, great little butt, and a cheerful attitude. I didn't do anal with her. She said she was fine with anal play, so we did digital anal play as well as with a toy. I am not going to yell at a girl for not doing anal intercourse, nor am I going to basically force her to do so. Maybe on another day, she will be up for it with me. If not, I can still design a great session with her, and like most 18-19 year olds, she is vaginally very tight. I found her to be open-minded with perfect English, and if you have any reasonable fetishes you might want to explore, she might be game. I recommended Ana to a Canadian friend who shares my love for a Montreal escort named Darla, who is a couple of years older and a tad bustier, but otherwise has a body and style much like Ana, and he loved Ana. So I do not think I am the only one who would like her. But Ana is definitely YMMV regarding anal. I don't think based on her body that Ana eats like I do, but there are days after shitting a rock that, if I were a bi-guy (which I am not), I would not feel much like doing anal as the recipient. So I always approach any session as though anal is YMMV.

It appears from the pictures and reviews that Carlota D'Almeida has a similar body as Ana (with apparently larger breasts) and is very outgoing and fun according to the reviews. She advertises anal, so if you like the young, slim type, you might consider her and see if she is up for anal relatively more often than Ana.

Lastly, every review of Alexandra Mendes says she did anal upon request. I prefer doggie-style anal, which is sometimes difficult for a girl to do, and Alexandra just grabbed my dick and stuck it in when I saw her two or three years ago..[/QUOTE]Thank you monger for the thoughts, as always your perspective is appreciated. I will take your recommendations and report back!

KS.

[QUOTE=ZagnabBilge666;2056074]Dear mongerer,

Actually I am also still planing to arrange threesome one of these hotties.

You are right I don't like my characteristic always, but I do like enjoying different tastes.

Yes she is very tall thanks for alternative Links Kama Leao, actually I couldn't understand reviews but yes it seems all Positive.

I talked to her. I will stay at apartment but she accepts only hotel for outcall so her House is another option. It will be mu first time in Lisboa, do you think it is secure have incall or is it risky?[/QUOTE]Any lady with a bunch of reviews is safe for incall.

I prefer incall in Barcelona because it is much less expensive than outcall, and I have never encountered a problem.

Obviously, if you are seeing a completely unreviewed lady from Backpage or a similar classified ad, incall may not be safe.

The issue most of us non-locals face with incall is making the appointment far enough in advance to be able to map a mass transit trip (at least part of the way) to keep the taxi fare from eliminating the cost advantage of incall.

It is promising that LXLocal reported that Kelly Morais new incall may be on the long Av de Roma street that many of the "Western Brand" hotels are on. Hopefully her place will be walking distance and easy to find.

Ladies and gentlemen,

I would like to know what is the best way to find ladies in Porto and Lisbon for incall.

Your help is highly appreciated!

[QUOTE=AlexKrom;2056322]Ladies and gentlemen,

I would like to know what is the best way to find ladies in Porto and Lisbon for incall.

Your help is highly appreciated![/QUOTE]I was in your boat a few months ago. Read the forum, everything is there.

KS.

AlexKrom,

I bumped an older thread with addresses for the walk-in line-up brothels. Prices are usually 60 euros for a half-hour and 100 euros for an hour. They are a bit out of order. Michelles and New Center are the largest and best reviewed. There are no upsells, but some of the ladies (probably about half) will only do BJs with the condom on, and if you pick one of those, you just have to accept it. Of course, you can just ask the madam which ladies do what, such as BBBJ, BBBJTC, anal, etc. In general, most guys find these places a notch below in quality compared to the big escort agency and the independent escorts, but you might find a gem out of the large line-ups.

If you will read the thread, you will find a lot of good information. An escort named Jennifer PT / Eva Sanchez is an independent who offers incalls. And the well thought of escort named Kelly Morais is supposed to begin offering incalls in addition to outcalls. They both service English speaking customers, and the reviews on this thread a few pages back contain links to their ads with contact information.

And Kama put together a few posts below an excellent list of independent escorts over age 30 he recommends with links. Since he is a local poster, it is reasonable to assume they all offer incall.

I don't know anything about Porto incalls.


[QUOTE=Youssef139;1910283]Guys,

Below is a list of addresses I've compiled from ISG ...

NewLux. Conde Sabugosa 21,1st FL. , right.

Jardim do Eden. Av. Joao XXI 43,3rd Floor, left.

Relax Corpo. Avenida de Berna, 23,2nd FL. , right.

Michelle & Assistentes. Av. Migual Bombarda 1, 3rd floor, left.

New Center. Av. Marques de Tomar 33,5th Floor, right.

...

Just explore and enjoy.

Y[/QUOTE]

Further to my earlier reply to KingSalmon regarding his note that Ana Castro had received a negative review on the gp-pt local review board and my lengthy reply here noting that the negative review had come from a supposedly new member who did four consecutive posts of negative reviews of EP ladies as his first four posts, and the review of Ana from another new poster that followed a few days later suggested that he had received relatively better service by being somewhat verbally abusive to her, I wanted to mention that a couple of blatantly honest things were posted today in Ana's thread on gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL]. Please note that section x translates from Apartadox. Here is today's post in her review forum:

"With regard to EscortPrivada I would like to make the following observation: I do not know what happens with those responsible for the section x!! They are flooding the site with ads of these pevas, generating waste of time to users who have used the site for several years! Obviously these pevas are not facing our market!! They charge all 150 and have no space!! You have to fight these guys! They are inflating the market! Any day I stop using the sectionx since every time I look for a gp that interests me, I see in the end that belongs to the escortprivada !!!"

Followed by this reply:

"There would be much better quality in AptX if it divided those of the private escort as it does with the localities.
I myself would visit the site more often, since it also annoys me to see that a certain girl belongs to ep".

I think it is pretty obvious that there are plenty of members on gp-pt.net that really have it out for escortprivada, and I really think a person has to take any review of an EP lady on that site with a huge grain of salt. Clearly when comments are made such as "You have to fight these guys! There have to be concerns about the validity of negative reviews. There are certainly plenty of real ones, positive and negative, but you have to use some caution in accepting everything that is written.

The gp-pt site is great for reviews of the 40-60 euro half-hour and 80-100 euro per hour incall ladies, so I have referenced it in many of my posts when guys asked about researching this activity in Portugal. I never realized how much they dislike and provider charging 50 euros or so more than the average of the ladies reviewed on that board. Clearly escortprivada has grown in size over the years, and there are not that many foreign tourists, so it must be used heavily by some of the locals.

Fortunately, there are plenty of reviews of escortprivada ladies on this site from a lot of different posters, so I think it may be wise to use the reviews on ISG rather than using gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL] for escortprivada, and perhaps the same might be true for independent escorts charging 150 euros or more per hour. Every review board has its own personality and target market, and clearly the ladies in that prices range are not wanted on that board. Nothing wrong with that, and I am not asserting that the ladies favorably reviewed on gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL] are not as good or better, just saying to be cautious when researching certain ladies on that board.

As I have said before, I do not fully understand this. Personally, I use an apartment brothel in Barcelona that is 70 euros for a half hour and 120 euros an hour, as well as seeing a number of independents in the 150 euros an hour, and I go to a house in Madrid in the 80 euros half hour through 150 euros an hour for incall, as well as seeing independents charging anywhere from 100 to 180 euros an hour incall, but I never see complaints on the various Spanish review boards like sexomercadobcn, spalumi or esaschicas complaining about even the very existence of places like Cristina's Secrets that has ladies in the 400-500 euros an hour range, or of any of the several escort services that advertise in the 250-400 euros per hour range.

I saw her twice. The 2nd time I had an appointment with Carlota but she canceled on the same day so I switched back to Ana.

Both times she was fantastic. Very GFE. Lots of kissing.

She's 20. I believe she said she is a junior.

Very skinny with nice juicy butt. A-cup breasts. Exactly my type since I'm not a breast man.

My only minor complaint was that she was 15 minutes late but still left after the hour so I was shorted by 15 minutes.

Not a big deal since I was spent by then.

Second time she was even later but stayed the whole hour.

Are these girls always late? They always blame traffic.

Hi guys,

1) Are there any love hotels in Lisbon? Where I could take chick from bar for one hour or so?

2) Could you recommend me some best or good value girls for incall? I have never used escorts in my life so I would like my 'first time' to be positive, non-stressful GFE experience.

Obrigado.

IceWolf7.

With respect to "love motels", the two that have been mentioned in the forum are Xroomz and Safira.

But virtually all Lisbon hotels are girl friendly. So unlike South America you can have the escort lady of your choice come up to your room at most any hotel.

The last 10-15 pages of the forum will provide you with a great number of recommended incall escorts with apartments or shared trick-pad rooms, and a great number of recommended outcall escorts that will come to your hotel or motel.

There are also a number of brothels whose addresses have been mentioned where the room is supplied.

[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2021530]Xroomz is a bit crappy, yes. But if you are into kinky / kitsch stuff it's ok.

But I think Safira is better: [URL]http://safira.lisbon-hotel.org/[/URL].[/QUOTE]

Timewaster,

Glad you liked Ana.

Most of the escortprivada ladies have been on time and one was a half-hour early when she came to see me in Cascais and asked if I was ready early.

One was 20 minutes or so late once, and I think traffic was an issue, since it was rush hour.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2057031]Clearly escortprivada has grown in size over the years, and there are not that many foreign tourists, so it must be used heavily by some of the locals.[/QUOTE]Not really. Portugal, in the last few years, has had a huge tourist boom.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2057031]I think it may be wise to use the reviews on ISG rather than using gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL] for escortprivada, and perhaps the same might be true for independent escorts charging 150 euros or more per hour. Every review board has its own personality and target market, and clearly the ladies in that prices range are not wanted on that board.[/QUOTE]There's obviously an issue in GP-PT with what the EP girls charge. But the more fundamental one is that their performance is not up to their fees.

Newbie, just registered today. You all have been such a great help for my visits here I thought I had to give back.

One day Lisbon visit. Screwed up the date for a visit with Kelly Morais. Miss-communicated days and expectations so missed my morning set up for arrival sex. Was hoping to see Kelly in the morning and Ana in the evening. Kelly MIA and Ana's number was turned off. Scrambled for another date before my mid day nap (worked on the flight all night).

Messaged, whatsapp, called, Ana, Carlota, Erica, Zara, Erica. Nothing happening for the morning set. I was about to give up. EP website has to this date never responded to an e-mail, but 30 min after I sent them my "wish list" Zara called and offered a 13:30 then Erica called for an offer. So Zara just left and Erica is coming at 8 tonight.

Zara was not the stunner I was expecting but she is a wonderful personality with a nice attitude. We got along famously. I love the Dutch accent so it worked for me. Great BBBJ with some amazing DT, which I love so I was a very happy camper.

My first EP girl was Megan last month. She was GFE from the get go. Great time together. We made an attempt at anal but it just wouldn't go. I would have rather she said NO and not wasted the time trying. We had a great time playing and talking. Since she was my first at EP I was convinced I would get a fine GFE with other girls.

Second angel was Carlota. Wow! What a stunner. Face, Body, technique. All was perfect. I will see her again. (responded that she was busy today after a few hours) Also can can the big worm in a very special way. Anal was there after she warned me of the possible smell. (LOL, as if I care) For some reason I couldn't cum so we went at it for almost the full hour, trying to finish with a face fuck at the end to get me to cum. A real trouper!

So that leaves me with Erica. Not been there yet, but I will have your answers tomorrow or the next day. Megan seems to be off the EP site except for duos with Erica. I would rather know both ladies before a duo. And Erica is the only other model to answer my late planning calls today.

Summery:

Plan ahead and "book it danno".

The girls with WhatsApp are easier to approach.

Most of them are using a 3rd party 'answered' for the posted phone number contact (even Zara who speaks perfect English).

Don't waste time trying for a second pop with 20 min left, (not enough time for me) find something fun to do for the last 20 min. Massage, shower, talk, oil boobs, anything that you love.

While typing this, Kelly has sent me a message. 1st it was "I was busy today, you did not leave a time in my schedule" I explained that I thought I booked this morning, but I was very nice and said it was my fault and she should not worry about it. And we are scheduled for a visit on Thursday morning. Turned a disaster into. Future wonderment with an angel.

P.S. Can go back and look, but the gentleman with the EP e-mail please PM me, thanks.

P.S. S anyone with a direct way for me to book Ana for Thurs night please let me know. No reply from website, no answer on the listed phone number.

[QUOTE=BkkBadBoy;2058657]Newbie, just registered today. You all have been such a great help for my visits here I thought I had to give back.

One day Lisbon visit. Screwed up the date for a visit with Kelly Morais. Miss-communicated days and expectations so missed my morning set up for arrival sex. Was hoping to see Kelly in the morning and Ana in the evening. Kelly MIA and Ana's number was turned off. Scrambled for another date before my mid day nap (worked on the flight all night).

Messaged, whatsapp, called, Ana, Carlota, Erica, Zara, Erica. Nothing happening for the morning set. I was about to give up. EP website has to this date never responded to an e-mail, but 30 min after I sent them my "wish list" Zara called and offered a 13:30 then Erica called for an offer. So Zara just left and Erica is coming at 8 tonight.

Zara was not the stunner I was expecting but she is a wonderful personality with a nice attitude. We got along famously. I love the Dutch accent so it worked for me. Great BBBJ with some amazing DT, which I love so I was a very happy camper.

My first EP girl was Megan last month. She was GFE from the get go. Great time together. We made an attempt at anal but it just wouldn't go. I would have rather she said NO and not wasted the time trying. We had a great time playing and talking. Since she was my first at EP I was convinced I would get a fine GFE with other girls.

Second angel was Carlota. Wow! What a stunner. Face, Body, technique. All was perfect. I will see her again. (responded that she was busy today after a few hours) Also can can the big worm in a very special way. Anal was there after she warned me of the possible smell. (LOL, as if I care) For some reason I couldn't cum so we went at it for almost the full hour, trying to finish with a face fuck at the end to get me to cum. A real trouper!

So that leaves me with Erica. Not been there yet, but I will have your answers tomorrow or the next day. Megan seems to be off the EP site except for duos with Erica. I would rather know both ladies before a duo. And Erica is the only other model to answer my late planning calls today.

Summery:

Plan ahead and "book it danno".

The girls with WhatsApp are easier to approach.

Most of them are using a 3rd party 'answered' for the posted phone number contact (even Zara who speaks perfect English).

Don't waste time trying for a second pop with 20 min left, (not enough time for me) find something fun to do for the last 20 min. Massage, shower, talk, oil boobs, anything that you love.

While typing this, Kelly has sent me a message. 1st it was "I was busy today, you did not leave a time in my schedule" I explained that I thought I booked this morning, but I was very nice and said it was my fault and she should not worry about it. And we are scheduled for a visit on Thursday morning. Turned a disaster into. Future wonderment with an angel.

P.S. Can go back and look, but the gentleman with the EP e-mail please PM me, thanks.

P.S. S anyone with a direct way for me to book Ana for Thurs night please let me know. No reply from website, no answer on the listed phone number.[/QUOTE]You don't have PM until you buy a subscription or become a senior member, so I can't PM you.

And I can't post that email address in the regular forum since ISG seems to forbid it.

HEY MODS: Can you make an exception to that rule in this situation please? Wasn't that rule put in place because guys from India were always requesting private information. It doesn't seem appropriate to keep members from exchanging, with permission from the escort service, better contact emails.

Anyway, I did shoot them an email to let them know to search the website contact form for an inquiry regarding Ana that would have come from an existing customer. So hopefully they will see it.

Thanks of course for the reviews and feedback on the other ladies, particularly Carlota who I would like to see on my next trip there.

I contacted Kelly recently to introduce myself via whatsapp and she was very nice when I said I would like to eventually make an appointment, so I hope to see her in the future also. She said her reading comprehension of English is not as strong as her spoken English, so it is wise to highlight and copy any English message in whatsapp before you send it, translate it to Portuguese using Google Translate, and paste the translated Portuguese message after the English message in Whatsapp. Once she replies in Portuguese, you can highlight and copy her response and use Google Translate to read it in English.