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Passing through HK on the way back from Europe I had 2 days in HK but was staying out of town.

As you do I managed to steal a couple of hours to myself in Kowloon, so I headed straight for 37 Dundas Street. I was hot and sweaty when I got there and went right to the first floor to be welcomed and shown to a small, dark but thankfully cool room.

I was given a beer and the price of HK$490 for 50 mins was explained to me (full refund if not happy). Then four lovely but different ladies were shown into the room. It was hard to see them properly in due to the lighting but I chose Shirley as she was small and well endowed with a warm smile.

So I paid the fee and she took me up one level to a small but clean room. I stripped off whilst she fiddled around and then the usual comment "oo, you so big". Yes I know it is what they say to all westerners but it does do something for your ego

A bit of DFK then into the shower and a very pleasant wash down with a lot of playing and stand up body slide. Great stuff! I was ready to lift her up and do it there but it would not be right. What beautiful boobs she had and with bonus long hard nipples!

Dry off and onto the bed. Straight to a kneeling BBBJ, very well done and as much of a deep throat as she could do. Somehow she slipped between my legs and gave a bit of AR as well, a nice feeling but it is not my thing really. Then I returned the favour with DATY, she was writhing in pleasure, the moans could be fake but she was so wet!

That was it, we were so close I felt she would not object if I just took her bare back but no, I did the right thing and suggested that she produce a condom. She did it quickly and expertly smoothed it on with her lips. Then she simply lay on her back and spread her legs.

Heaven, given her small size she was nice and tight. I was surprised that I lasted a respectable time but she seemed to enjoy the pounding as much as I was. Again as she moved with me I let go and exploded in her with much satisfaction and we lay for short time to enjoy the moment.

Cleaned up and into the shower with more kisses and cuddles. Very much a GFE.

Dressed then I gave her a tip and made sure I praised her to the Madam on the way out.

A great time and good value, I would be back there every week if I could.

[QUOTE=Tiki Tour]Passing through HK on the way back from Europe I had 2 days in HK but was staying out of town.

As you do I managed to steal a couple of hours to myself in Kowloon, so I headed straight for 37 Dundas Street. I was hot and sweaty when I got there and went right to the first floor to be welcomed and shown to a small, dark but thankfully cool room.

I was given a beer and the price of HK$490 for 50 mins was explained to me (full refund if not happy). Then four lovely but different ladies were shown into the room. It was hard to see them properly in due to the lighting but I chose Shirley as she was small and well endowed with a warm smile.

So I paid the fee and she took me up one level to a small but clean room. I stripped off whilst she fiddled around and then the usual comment "oo, you so big". Yes I know it is what they say to all westerners but it does do something for your ego

A bit of DFK then into the shower and a very pleasant wash down with a lot of playing and stand up body slide. Great stuff! I was ready to lift her up and do it there but it would not be right. What beautiful boobs she had and with bonus long hard nipples!

Dry off and onto the bed. Straight to a kneeling BBBJ, very well done and as much of a deep throat as she could do. Somehow she slipped between my legs and gave a bit of AR as well, a nice feeling but it is not my thing really. Then I returned the favour with DATY, she was writhing in pleasure, the moans could be fake but she was so wet!

That was it, we were so close I felt she would not object if I just took her bare back but no, I did the right thing and suggested that she produce a condom. She did it quickly and expertly smoothed it on with her lips. Then she simply lay on her back and spread her legs.

Heaven, given her small size she was nice and tight. I was surprised that I lasted a respectable time but she seemed to enjoy the pounding as much as I was. Again as she moved with me I let go and exploded in her with much satisfaction and we lay for short time to enjoy the moment.

Cleaned up and into the shower with more kisses and cuddles. Very much a GFE.

Dressed then I gave her a tip and made sure I praised her to the Madam on the way out.

A great time and good value, I would be back there every week if I could.[/QUOTE]


I take my hat off to the mamsons at 37 Dundas as they do an excellent job of ensuring the girls provide great service. Like you, I have enjoyed my visits to 37D (8 times over the years at last count) and I have never been unhappy with the service or my girl. I agree with you that it is a great time and a good value. One of the best values for sex in HK.

The thing that has always amazed me is that these girls will lick a guys ass and suck his dick like it is the best thing in the world. They really get in to it.
I have had a lot of GFE there a few girls I have done twice (e.g., Faye Faye, and a girl named Cat).

I recall Faye Faye tried to get me to cum twice (once in her pussy and once in her mouth) she really worked hard at it. Now that's customer satisfaction!
It seems like 37D is one of a very few YS places in HK that understands that good service will result in repeat business and more profits for the owners, mamasons, and the girls.

man169

This website is in Chinese but if you have software translator a whole new world will open up to you. Even if you don't have a translator, it is still fun to check out the pics and prices of girls working in the YS and sex massage outlets in HK, Macau, and Shenzhen. This website also has a map of the locations with some English so you can still find the places. It also have phone numbers. Have fun.

I stayed for 4 nights in Nathan Hotel on Nathan road.
Very nearby is the night market of Temple street.
All the foot massage centers in this area offer more then only massage.
Prices around 300 HK all in (hand job)
Some of the saunacenters in this area also offer FS for 600,
You just walk in Temple street and the streets around it!!
Camieleke

I stumbled upon this website and thought I would pass it on. A real cutie, with an Filipina-Romanian mix. I have not seen any reviews and her prices are not cheap, but might be worth a look. How long she will be in Hong Kong is not clear. Good luck gents!

AT2

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I received an private message in my inbox from a member asking if the YS are safe to go to. He stated some look unsafe as he walked on Portland and Shanghai streets. I thought I would answer this question for everyone.

First, bare in mind that all YS are not created equal. In HK, there are about 200+ YS (according to a 2003 HK police report). Many of the YS are owned and operated by the same business families and provide us with good Chinese, Thai, Russian, Malay, and Flip women to bang. I take my hat off to them! They also own most of the eating outlets, saunas, regular massage, and newspaper stands in Mong Kok and other areas of HK. Below are the two types of YS:

Class A YS:
These YS keep their own girls on site and when you arrrive, within a 5 minutes, you have several girls to choose from (usually 3 to 4 depending on the time of day and how busy they are). Some of the girls have worked at the same YS for a long time. For example, Faye Faye at 37 Dundas has been working there for all most 2 years. Nice looking Chinese girl (in my opinion) with nice medium sized tits, deep ass licking, and good BBBJ.

These YS are very concerned about customer service because they want repeat business. Thus, they school the girls on what they should do and how they should treat the customer. You will generally get a GFE at these YS.

The mamason generally will ask you about the level of service when you leave and if you have a very negative response, they will generally talk to the girl. These type of YS is where you will get the best service of all the YS and it is safe. I have been going to these type of YS off and on for the past 8 years and I have never had a problem.

These types of YS are 37 Dundas (note that there are two YS in the same building), K-Pressure, 457-459 Shanghai, 141 Portland (recently recommend by another member however I have never visited), and several others. Golden Cumming Club at 310 Portland has reopened but I have not been there recently. Prior to it closing a year ago, it was a great place and would be considered a Class A YS as I had visited it several times back then.

In the Class A YS, you will not be refused service because you are non-Chinese. Unless, you are being an ass hole, dress dirty or have some other REAL reason why a girl would not want to bang you. In a class A YS, I have never been refused service in the past 8 years.

BBBJ is included if after your dick inspection (washing in the shower) they feel comfortable sucking you with no condom. These YS have a good level of quality control. The mamsons are always nice and friendly.

Class B and lower YS:
The other YS do not maintain their own girls on site and they will call one of several pimps to send a girl over. You may have to wait for the girl as long as 15 minutes. When the girl arrives, she is often concerned about getting paid and going off to the next customer. Therefore, you may have a rush experience. You may or may not receive a BBBJ. But most importantly, there is very little or no quality control so your sex experience may be a hit or miss.

As far as being safe, it depends on where you go. Some class B and lower YS have several pimps in the location. I personally do not like banging a girl and being but naked while several guys are a few feet away on the other side other cheap locked door. Therefore, I stick with the Class A YS. The only problems I had in these Class B YS is that the guys are rude sometimes. Other then that, I have not had a problem mainly because I am nice and easy going and I do not give them a hard time. However, I am sure if you talk shit, they will deal with you by kicking your ass.

One time, I went to one of the lower class YS and the price was 260HK. When the girl arrived and after I started to get undressed, she asked for 100hk more because she said I had a big dick (ya right). She opened the door and called the pimp to the door. He told me her concern. I could have made a big deal about it--but, from a security standpoint it was better that I go along with the program (considering it was a total of 3 of them and only me with my pants off). So I happy agreed to the extra charge. Needless to say, I never went back to that lower class YS. Also, in the class A YS, you would never have this problem.

In Class B and lower YS, they may refuse service to you by saying "no girl" before you get half way up th stairs (as they can see you coming up on the cameras). No girl means they do not want a non Chinese guy fucking their girls because some Chinese girls say non-Chinese guys have big dicks. The truth is, some Chinese girls just have much smaller pussies (these are the girls I like). And any dick longer than 1 inch is big to them. In a Class B or lower YS, I have been refused service--but it does not bother me and it should not bother you. As I mentioned above, simply stick with the Class A YS outlets.

If you stick with the Class A YS and go by the recommendations listed on this site, you will not have a problem. If you are new to HK, I would avoid walking the streets of Mong Kok and trying different YS that have not been recommended here if you are concerned about being safe. Also, avoid the pimps walking the streets offering girls if you are concerned about being safe.

Why would anyone still want to try a class B or lower YS. Well, the girls at these YS are generally younger, the pimps supply an ever changing offering of girls, the price can be as low as 200HK for a flip, as low as 260 for a Chinese girl, and sometimes you get lucky and find a real GFE on the cheap, it has happened to me on a few occasions in the past.

If you are not concerned about your safety and you are use to trying new sex places in Asia and you know how to handle yourself, then by all means take an adventure and try different YS in Mong Kok. I have done this over the years. But, if I do not like the feel or look of the YS, I will not go in.

I work in the financial district on HK island but prefer to live in Mong Kok because Mong Kok is a fun place with lots of people, cheap food, a ton of good looking Chinese girls to bang for very little money, cheap cloths, cheap housing, and a lot of regular Chinese girls walking around. I love Chinese women so being in Mong Kok, I always see a ton of lovely Chinese women. I meet my current live in Chinese girlfriend in Mong Kok and she is a regular HK girl that works for an insurance company. In the time I have lived in Mong Kok, I have never had a problem or been in fear. Note that there are always police walking around so you should feel safe.

When I have a chance, I will visit new YS that are listed on the website man169 and report on the ones I think can be considered Class A.

OVERALL: Recommended YS are safe and enjoyable! The great thing about the Class A YS are that the price is low--from 360 to 500HK for about 50 minutes for sex from a nice looking and GFE Chinese girl. It is by far the best value in HK for sex.

Undercoverh, you raised lots of great points....just a few corrections about your post....

First, 37 Dundas is not considered a "YS" brothel. Yes, there is a big yellow 390 sign high above Dundas Street. But YS really refers to the yellow handwritten signs on doorways of many brothals common in western Mongkok, those you refer to as "Class B" joints. It's unfair to refer to 37 Dundas and K-Pressure as a YS -- or even consider them remotely similar to the "Class B" joints.

As for the "Class B" places (which I'll simply refer to as a YS from this point forth), it's untrue that providers and papasans have "very little or no quality control". For myself, papasans have frequently inquired on the level of service I've obtained. (I am Asian and speak Chinese so naturally, they may be more open with me than you.) They need this feedback to determine whether to call the girl again. As you know, YS girls don't work for any specific brothal. They're more like independent contractors who roam the streets waiting for a referral. If their performance consistantly sucks, they don't get contracted again. Perhaps the papasans don't ask you to rate the girl because they lack English proficiency. After all, these are triad guys who dropped out of school.

But you're right about 37 Dundas. They've always delivered. It's just incorrect to say that YS joints have little concern or control over quality.

As for dick size, you've fallen prey to the oldest mongering trick in the book. It has nothing to do with your size. It has everything to do with you being foreign. Since I speak Chinese, I've asked providers about this. Many girls, especially the 141 ones, will automatically raise the price for non-Chinese. If they can get away with it, they will. It's called capitalism -- and Hong Kongers are damn good at it. They use penis size only as an excuse. Since most guys are flattered at being called "big", they tend not to object.

As for a YS papasan saying "no girl" to you, it's not because they don't want a white guy to fuck their girls. If you read those handwritten YS signs, most contains English (often horribly misspelled). So clearly, they have no problem with white patrons. They refused you because some papasans are paranoid and think you might attract police attention. The last thing they want is some tourist raising a fit and calling the cops. I'd say that's rare. But when a papasan gets stricken with paranoia, I can see why they'd be more likely to refuse a non-Chinese.

As for safety, there is nothing unsafe about that part of Mongkok. There are only two blocks seperating 37 Dundas from the YS epicenter on Portland Street. Don't tell me two blocks would have such a dramatic difference on street safety.

Overall, you did raise lots of interesting points. For myself, the best reason to hit a YS joint is the seediness, uncertainy and (of course) the low price. 37 Dundas is great, but it's becoming too predictable. If you go there enough, you see the same group of girls. Sometimes, you just want a rush and try something new. The army of girls at the YS joints are almost infinite in size and fresh ones cross the border illegally everyday. And once in a while, you get a naive girl who's a true amateur and seems to actually appreciate the new physical experience. I've exchange phone numbers with a handful of them before. That never happens at established places like 37 Dundas who are staffed by seasoned professionals.

i must say i thought undercover outlined very succintly for those who are not 99% in the know how ys's, or even, heaven forbid 'ys's work.

in response, ff did a very good job of splitting irrelevant hairs; hope he's as good wi beavers is all i can say.

the a and b pricing and qa system that undie outlined made a lot of sense and clarified many issues for us non-dickly challenged round eyes.

no offence, ff, but give undie his due. it was a very useful posting by undie and was not really augmented by your -- rather obfurep001ing -- 'clarification'.

js

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]If you stick with the Class A YS and go by the recommendations listed on this site, you will not have a problem. If you are new to HK, I would avoid walking the streets of Mong Kok and trying different YS that have not been recommended here if you are concerned about being safe. Also, avoid the pimps walking the streets offering girls if you are concerned about being safe.[/QUOTE]Why do you believe streetwalkers are unsafe? Is that from experience or from stories you hear?

I saw some very hot hot young streetwalkers and got approached by the pimp when he saw me looking at her. I didn't try because I did not know how safe it was. Was I being paranoid?

Monday. I leave work at 6pm and head to wanchai with the mission to explore the gogo bars and the karaoke bar of the area. Time is tight with a dead line of 7. 45pm to leave. So I walk the line on Lookhard, and firstly dive into laguna and then New Makiti for an eye opener. Both places are empty although in Laguna I do spy a few new girls in town. One is jumping up and down on the side in a way that makes me think she is straight off the boat and ready for action. She's not gotten hard yet, at least not on this trip. Two large Russian waters later and I'm ready for the trials to begin.

I walk straight out of Makiti and into Waikiki which is next door. This is the gogo with all the chicks in black micro skirts, red tops, and thigh high leather boots. 5 girls sit with me as I am the only bloke in there. No naughtiness but just a nice chat with them. Buy two girls drinks having done a competition along the lines of "in ten words than less, complete the sentence "I deserve a drink because" ". I thought this would cue them to be dirty and rude and suggestive at least, but with only 3 of the 5 answering saying "because I earn money from the drinks and am poor". The two girls are really cute though, and easily a 9/10 in my eyes. One 20, the other 23. Both said they would leave, but meeting at lunchtime was out. Bar bill $300.

I leave, and head back to the GOGO I had been in before. I walked round the corner past Joe Bananas (sausage fest. Must be a convention in town). And again saw an absolute stunner walking along the road. Yet again, this chick dives into the Karaoke bar and I follow her straight in. Met mamasan at the bottom and there is a bar there with about 15 chicks. This bird is there, and is the best looking easily. The rest range between 5-7 / 10 but with her and another being clear 10's. Spoke with mama and got the crack. $400 for an hour including drinks, karaoke and girls company. You can take out but that is another conversation. I head out with 30 minutes to go, cross the road and into the Dragon Bar which is under Laguna on the right hand side.

Walk in. Mamasan is there and asks who I would like to buy a drink for. I buy her a drink and tell her I have 30 minutes. Take your pick my son she says so I smoke a tab and watch the pure grade A 10 stunner in stockings and panties dancing on the stage. "She's cute". Instantly she's next to me, no hand on my crotch but I buy her a drink anyway (total spend at this point $220). She moves me over to a booth in the corner and gets her tits out, and as I fondle them she's grabbing my cock. Then she unzips, gets it out and starts sucking me off there right in the bar with me looking at the girls on stage all smiling at me. She stops. Buy another drinking please? Sure, and keep sucking. I'm rubbing her pussy and have a finger in now, and she's squriming. "You want to fuck me? " yeah. Get on board. "no, can't here" why not "not allowed". Well get on top and we will pretend for a bit. She does, and my cock slides straight in with my digit up her tights ass.

Stops. Another drink. She goes back to sucking, and then gets on board again for a bit longer. Not allowed to cum in the place apparently. Yeah right. Another drink? "you let me cum and you swallow the lot and you get a Tequilla" I say. Fine. Shes sucking good now, and I cum huge choking wad into her mouth. I order the Tequilla and mama says "are you sure? Why not get her the cheap drink". Well, I buy the expensive one anyway.

Total fee $1155 and no I do not feel ripped off. This was one of the most high fueled erotic fucks and BJs I've had and she was stunning. Never seen better in the clubs around there and all whilst 5 really hnot chicks were looking me in the eye and smiling. She will leave the bar (barfine) and do everything including anal ("I will oil my tight ass for you and you can fuck me hard right? ").

I will explore the other ones later in the week but need a wing man for the karaoke bar. Need to find one.

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[QUOTE=FurryFriend]Undercoverh, you raised lots of great points....just a few corrections about your post....

First, 37 Dundas is not considered a "YS" brothel. Yes, there is a big yellow 390 sign high above Dundas Street. But YS really refers to the yellow handwritten signs on doorways of many brothals common in western Mongkok, those you refer to as "Class B" joints. It's unfair to refer to 37 Dundas and K-Pressure as a YS -- or even consider them remotely similar to the "Class B" joints.

As for the "Class B" places (which I'll simply refer to as a YS from this point forth), it's untrue that providers and papasans have "very little or no quality control". For myself, papasans have frequently inquired on the level of service I've obtained. (I am Asian and speak Chinese so naturally, they may be more open with me than you.) They need this feedback to determine whether to call the girl again. As you know, YS girls don't work for any specific brothal. They're more like independent contractors who roam the streets waiting for a referral. If their performance consistantly sucks, they don't get contracted again. Perhaps the papasans don't ask you to rate the girl because they lack English proficiency. After all, these are triad guys who dropped out of school.

But you're right about 37 Dundas. They've always delivered. It's just incorrect to say that YS joints have little concern or control over quality.

As for dick size, you've fallen prey to the oldest mongering trick in the book. It has nothing to do with your size. It has everything to do with you being foreign. Since I speak Chinese, I've asked providers about this. Many girls, especially the 141 ones, will automatically raise the price for non-Chinese. If they can get away with it, they will. It's called capitalism -- and Hong Kongers are damn good at it. They use penis size only as an excuse. Since most guys are flattered at being called "big", they tend not to object.

As for a YS papasan saying "no girl" to you, it's not because they don't want a white guy to fuck their girls. If you read those handwritten YS signs, most contains English (often horribly misspelled). So clearly, they have no problem with white patrons. They refused you because some papasans are paranoid and think you might attract police attention. The last thing they want is some tourist raising a fit and calling the cops. I'd say that's rare. But when a papasan gets stricken with paranoia, I can see why they'd be more likely to refuse a non-Chinese.

As for safety, there is nothing unsafe about that part of Mongkok. There are only two blocks seperating 37 Dundas from the YS epicenter on Portland Street. Don't tell me two blocks would have such a dramatic difference on street safety.

Overall, you did raise lots of interesting points. For myself, the best reason to hit a YS joint is the seediness, uncertainy and (of course) the low price. 37 Dundas is great, but it's becoming too predictable. If you go there enough, you see the same group of girls. Sometimes, you just want a rush and try something new. The army of girls at the YS joints are almost infinite in size and fresh ones cross the border illegally everyday. And once in a while, you get a naive girl who's a true amateur and seems to actually appreciate the new physical experience. I've exchange phone numbers with a handful of them before. That never happens at established places like 37 Dundas who are staffed by seasoned professionals.[/QUOTE]



Often times in life, people will take their opinions and present them as facts--when in fact, it is simply their opinion. The information you presented is simply your OPINION based on your experiences--nothing more, nothing less. Likewise, the information I have presented is simply my OPINION based on my experiences. Neither of us are right or wrong, it is simply we have different opinions based on our different experiences. However, a few brief corrections are needed on my part regarding some of your comments.

1.
Your comments: "First, 37 Dundas is not considered a "YS" brothel. Yes, there is a big yellow 390 sign high above Dundas Street. But YS really refers to the yellow handwritten signs on doorways of many brothals common in western Mongkok"

My response: In the old days, us old timers (expats that have been in HK going back 10 plus years) referred to YS as any place that had a yellow lighted sign or a yellow handwritten sign. If you would like focus on the yellow lighted sign vs. yellow paper, be my guess. The bottom line is they both offer the same thing--sex for sale.

2.
Your comments: "Those you refer to as "Class B" joints. It's unfair to refer to 37 Dundas and K-Pressure as a YS -- or even consider them remotely similar to the "Class B" joints."

My reponse: To clarify, I simply made-up the Class A vs. Class B and lower to make a point. The point being, there is a difference between particular groups of YS outlets. If you prefer to classify them differently, that is fine based on your opinion, that is up to you.

3.
Your comments: "I am Asian and speak Chinese so naturally, they may be more open with me than you."

My reponse: Oh really, this really makes your "big brother" laugh!! Why, because I am half Chinese and half Jewish American. I was born in Kunming, China and I am an American citizen because of my father. I also hold a Chinese passport. I grew up in Kunming and only went to American to attend collage and grad school. I worked in American for several years then returned to Asia. Needless to say, I speak and write Mandarin and I speak a little Cantonese. Therefore, your statement is completely wrong.

3.
Your comments: "As for dick size, you've fallen prey to the oldest mongering trick in the book. It has nothing to do with your size. It has everything to do with you being foreign."

My reponse: Your assumption in my case is wrong again. As mentioned above, I am mixed--however--I am 6'2". Yap, when they see me, they think BIG!

I have read the remainder of your comments and I could provide additional corrections. However, in the interest of being brief and in an effort not to bore the other readers, I will not respond any further.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]
I have read the remainder of your comments and I could provide additional corrections. However, in the interest of being brief and in an effort not to bore the other readers, I will not respond any further.[/QUOTE]

Earlier today, I nominated your original post to the Report of Distinction. Good job ;)

[quote=john smart]i must say i thought undercover outlined very succintly for those who are not 99% in the know how ys's, or even, heaven forbid 'ys's work.

in response, ff did a very good job of splitting irrelevant hairs; hope he's as good wi beavers is all i can say.

the a and b pricing and qa system that undie outlined made a lot of sense and clarified many issues for us non-dickly challenged round eyes.

no offence, ff, but give undie his due. it was a very useful posting by undie and was not really augmented by your -- rather obfurep001ing -- 'clarification'.

js[/quote]

thanks for your comments which are consistent with the purpose of my post. simply stated, i try to present helpful information based on my experiences in the form of narrative opinions. in the future, when i provide info, i may need to provide a disclaimer that reads, "the information provided is based on my opinion and experiences, your mileage may vary." ; - )

[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Earlier today, I nominated your original post to the Report of Distinction. Good job ;)[/QUOTE]


Gee, thanks. I appreciate your comments.

Wow, what's with the defensiveness?! Feels like I'm at a sports bar when patrons have had a few too many pints.

I already stated you did a good job with your post. I simply added some observations which, of course, contains points of view that may differ from the experiences of others. I doubt any reasonable person would think I was being offensive or condescending.

Why not just chill out and have a good time and not turn this forum into the next Obama v McCain debate?