Manila

Yeah that was a pretty dumb question. But still, thanks for answering.

It's really the same everywhere I've been around the world. You just have to take the time to assess the situation and ask questions without shame.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3030612]Walking into a bar and asking for the freshest girls really is the easiest way to stand out as a newbie and be seen as an easy mark. Generally it just goes down hill from there.

If you are only looking at bars, then you really need to build up a relationship, or at least a rapport, with the mamasan and she will then give you accurate advice. Don't just walk in drooling at the mouth.

If your happy to look outside the bars, then it's where normal girls congregate: malls; food halls; McDo etc. But don't expect them to be point and shoot. Many will be very shy even if she is interested.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]

My biggest gripe, because I'm cheap, is having to buy LD. I don't personally drink and don't want to waste money on LD. Maybe one to two LD's at most before I BF. If I can get the "side room" without the large BF, then I think I'll smash it in PH. I'll report back when I return. If I'm having a blast I'll stay longer than 3 nights.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3030718]I don't think the OP has that kind of time; 3 nights. For such a short visit he's going to want to connect only with inexpensive hotties (an oxymoron). Small chance of success, but I've been wrong before. Write us a report after your trip Brian.[/QUOTE]While I like hotties, as every man does, I don't like having to pay for LD's, bar fines, and all the fluff around the hottie. This is because I'm used to the German FKK scene where there's no drinking or paying a middleman (mamasan) for a girl. The whole Asian culture where everyone gets a cut, and "you have to do this before you can do that" mentality turns me off. Lastly, $180-200 US for a ST girl in Manila for ST is not cheap! Add LD's on top and I don't know why anyone would want to go to the PH? In Germany many FKK's are around $50-100 Euros, unless you want extras and you don't have to buy any LD's.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3030765]He's looking for the same thing that everybody has in mind, but doesn't usually exists, or it takes time to find, which he doesn't have.

Needs to drop off some of the requirements, first one is the being cheap part. Enough money will buy whatever you desire, even the impossible.

Is not like another thousand guys will just be going in and droping big bucks for the ugly out of shape girls, not wanting something fresh and good looking.

I'm talking to some younger friends in the US, and finally they are convinced that nobody will kill them in SEA, and now they are ready to do the first trip here, I don't know what they watched, and where they got their info from, but they all think just like Brian: stunning asians are waiting for them to come and take them, for as litle as $25 or less, maybe free, just because they come from the land of plenty. Many centuries have passed since Magellan first set foot, and things have changed..[/QUOTE]"take them, for as little as $25 or less" I'm not ignorant and I doubt your friends are too, I've been going to Thailand for over 15 years, so I know SEA. I've just never been to PH.

From what I've read in the forums about the PH, the Gogo girls are between $160-200 US?

That's not cheap! In many German FKK's girls are $50 Euro, so $200 US is 4 x the price of the girls in some German FKK's.

Good day, is any possibility to find girls (bars, night club, even extra massage) around 1 km - 2 km by walk from terminal 2 Manilla airport please?

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;3030887]While I like hotties, as every man does, I don't like having to pay for LD's, bar fines, and all the fluff around the hottie. This is because I'm used to the German FKK scene where there's no drinking or paying a middleman (mamasan) for a girl. The whole Asian culture where everyone gets a cut, and "you have to do this before you can do that" mentality turns me off. Lastly, $180-200 US for a ST girl in Manila for ST is not cheap! Add LD's on top and I don't know why anyone would want to go to the PH? In Germany many FKK's are around $50-100 Euros, unless you want extras and you don't have to buy any LD's.[/QUOTE]Comparisons. Yuck. Isn't it easier to just stay in BKK or Germany? Multiple options exist for you to find cuties for less, just not in gogo bars in Phils. My understanding of FKK's (I have never partaken) is that there is an initial fee to get into the club, say, $50-$75 USD (roughly, which covers food / drinks during your day), then you negotiate with each beauty her price (another $50-$75 USD). Is that right? Effing 1 girl would run you $100-$150, and 2 girls $150-$200. A similar Burgos girl will run you $200 for 2 pops, 1 evening and 1 morning. You get to keep the Burgos girl and sleep with her at your place (quite nice), vs a 30-minute pop elsewhere, and take her out for the evening if you are in the mood.

Do FKK girls on occasion require condoms? I ask because in many countries now, condoms are standard, while in Phils they are not. The condom has been standard in Latin America for a long time. Are they standard in BKK?

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;3030888]From what I've read in the forums about the PH, the Gogo girls are between $160-200 US? That's not cheap! In many German FKK's girls are $50 Euro, so $200 US is 4 x the price of the girls in some German FKK's.[/QUOTE]The $200-ish is for gogos in Makati, not for Phils. Its about $100 in Angeles. And oddly, its $140-ish in many small-town gogo bars, where you'd expect it to be much less. There is nothing on earth to compare to FKK's. To be fair to Phils, there are other avenues to finding hotties in the $60-$80 range (p3-4 k), but those options are not the point / shoot convenient options that you previously expressed a desire for. Specifically see PhilJoy and Goferring's posts on using the online system for those girls, but be prepped to put in exhaustive time in weeding out the rocks from the diamonds.

[QUOTE=CAExpert;3030786]I took a look at the website, I have not used it. But, I laughed so hard that you can rank girls by the variable of them having dentures or Not. Not sure how many young ladies have dentures, but I guess some find it important. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have partaken their services before and I had the same curiosity and researched to find that 41% of denture users in Philippines are in the 18-35 age group. Anecdotally, I asked a girl at Lips once about it and she immediately brought over her friend who took off her dentures and told me I should barfine her as it would be a "unique experience". Crazy!

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;3030888]"take them, for as little as $25 or less" I'm not ignorant and I doubt your friends are too, I've been going to Thailand for over 15 years, so I know SEA. I've just never been to PH.

From what I've read in the forums about the PH, the Gogo girls are between $160-200 US?

That's not cheap! In many German FKK's girls are $50 Euro, so $200 US is 4 x the price of the girls in some German FKK's.[/QUOTE]There is no comparison between FKK and PH, totally different things. FKK is close to the TH system, 1 hour, condom, in a back room, mechanical and soulless. PH is close to your 1000+ Euro escort. It depends what you're looking for, and in FKK 50 Euros is the starting price for 30 minutes, I been there numerous times, even crossed the border in CZ, where is about the same. Cannot compare at all.

For the same amount of money you get 10 X in PH, or if you have the luxury of time, you'll get it for free.

Just read the TH forum, and the PH forum, and you'll see that in the TH forum they talk about things that teenagers will brag about on their first date.

Anyway, because this is your first in PH, I'm telling you like to all the other first timers here, especially under time restrains: go to AC, and get a room in Royal Amsterdam Hotel, you will thank me later.

Manila has more to offer, but is like any other big city in the world, full of scammers, tricksters, vultures, and more expensive, not good for first visit. I assure you that what you'll get in AC for $100, has no comparison to FKK or TH GoGos.
After you get seasoned to the PH, then return with a bit more time, and with the previously acquired knowledge, and dip into the Manila scene.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;3030887]While I like hotties, as every man does, I don't like having to pay for LD's, bar fines, and all the fluff around the hottie. This is because I'm used to the German FKK scene where there's no drinking or paying a middleman (mamasan) for a girl. The whole Asian culture where everyone gets a cut, and "you have to do this before you can do that" mentality turns me off. Lastly, $180-200 US for a ST girl in Manila for ST is not cheap! Add LD's on top and I don't know why anyone would want to go to the PH? In Germany many FKK's are around $50-100 Euros, unless you want extras and you don't have to buy any LD's.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;3030888]"take them, for as little as $25 or less" I'm not ignorant and I doubt your friends are too, I've been going to Thailand for over 15 years, so I know SEA. I've just never been to PH.

From what I've read in the forums about the PH, the Gogo girls are between $160-200 US?

That's not cheap! In many German FKK's girls are $50 Euro, so $200 US is 4 x the price of the girls in some German FKK's.[/QUOTE]I think we may have been wrong in presenting Burgos as the only option to find hotties and to get laid in Manila. It certainly isn't. There are many ways and places to find girls of all descriptions. However, unless you have an extensive contacts list, you do need some way to connect with said girls. That's where the cost comes in. It could be monetary or time cost but I don't know anywhere we can just turn up and start fucking with out some form of exchange.

Here are some options, from $$ to $ that you may want to also consider.

Burgos: already covered extensively. Basically designed for guys who have more money than time. 10 k LT*.

Makati / Poblacion night club freelancers: some stunning girls but they will know their value. It can take time to find what you want and have her agree to come with you. 5-15 k LT.

Same clubs but part timers or civilians. Much less mercenary and can be equally as good looking. Game is needed and expect to be buying her drinks and investing time. Her time can cost half of the professional or even free. 0-4 k LT.

Online: surprisingly quick and easy in manila. Thousands of girls available at short notice but these include the scammers. You need to weed out those too good to be true. 4-5 k LT.

Street walkers: surprisingly Burgos street walkers are the cheapest option for a new foreigner in Manila. Have your gaydar set to high but there are some diamonds in the rough. 1. 5-2 k, ST only, in a nearby hourly hotel.

Introductions via doormen, taxis etc: 3-5 k plus a 1 k tip for the introduction. See Phil's posts.

Many other options that I haven't included.

*All prices don't include drinks.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=BackpackBrian;3030888]"take them, for as little as $25 or less" I'm not ignorant and I doubt your friends are too, I've been going to Thailand for over 15 years, so I know SEA. I've just never been to PH.

From what I've read in the forums about the PH, the Gogo girls are between $160-200 US?

That's not cheap! In many German FKK's girls are $50 Euro, so $200 US is 4 x the price of the girls in some German FKK's.[/QUOTE]I've seen almost identical posts, in several city forums, comparing another place and complaining that their preferred place has no equal locally. If you want the FKK experience and price, Germany, Austria and Switzerland all have options with a wide range of prices, although I didn't find any, when doing my research, where 50€ would just get you anything more than in the door. At least another 50 was needed to get basic service.

If you're going to (any country for a first visit), forget about every other country. Find what that country does better and go for that. Go-gos are always going to be more expensive. There will almost always be extra expenses. Whether it's online or girls bars, street girls or escort services, there's almost always something worth checking out. Whatever works best for you, you won't maximize the experience if you're trying to compare it to another place and time.

I've been hearing guys rave about the Philippines for 45 years. In a few days I'll finally check it out myself. As always, I'll do things my own way, find my own experiences and make my own mistakes.

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3030995]There is no comparison between FKK and PH, totally different things. FKK is close to the TH system, 1 hour, condom, in a back room, mechanical and soulless. PH is close to your 1000+ Euro escort. It depends what you're looking for, and in FKK 50 Euros is the starting price for 30 minutes, I been there numerous times, even crossed the border in CZ, where is about the same. Cannot compare at all.

For the same amount of money you get 10 X in PH, or if you have the luxury of time, you'll get it for free.

Just read the TH forum, and the PH forum, and you'll see that in the TH forum they talk about things that teenagers will brag about on their first date.

Anyway, because this is your first in PH, I'm telling you like to all the other first timers here, especially under time restrains: go to AC, and get a room in Royal Amsterdam Hotel, you will thank me later.

Manila has more to offer, but is like any other big city in the world, full of scammers, tricksters, vultures, and more expensive, not good for first visit. I assure you that what you'll get in AC for $100, has no comparison to FKK or TH GoGos..[/QUOTE]Right on, OU. So glad I retired in PH almost 4 years ago now. Been to the FKKs and all over TH, Indo, VN, Dominican Republic, Medellin, Tijuana, Costa Rica, Curacao's infamous Happy Camp. Nothing compares to the low cost girlfriend experience in PH. Actually I met a special one and will likely wife up. My God she's' beautiful, stacked and trim and a bit of a masochist which is new to me. She gets off being slapped and choked hehe. Deep throats and swallows like a champ. 25 years old, no kids, employed. Former Miss General Santos (Mindinao). Her big bright smile lights up the room and she calls me hubby. Loves to cook and clean and fuck. She's a keeper. I'm 70 now and slowing down anyway after all these years and 700+ lovers. Cheers.

[QUOTE=IndianGenie;3030978]I have partaken their services before and I had the same curiosity and researched to find that 41% of denture users in Philippines are in the 18-35 age group. Anecdotally, I asked a girl at Lips once about it and she immediately brought over her friend who took off her dentures and told me I should barfine her as it would be a "unique experience". Crazy![/QUOTE]Interesting stat.

Have purchased dentures for 4 girls over the years, all of them age 21 or less. Filipinas lose teeth young. The usual culprits: Fights, accidents, shabu (meth mouth), angry BF.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3031061]Interesting stat.

Have purchased dentures for 4 girls over the years, all of them age 21 or less. Filipinas lose teeth young. The usual culprits: Fights, accidents, shabu (meth mouth), angry BF.[/QUOTE]I've noticed this too. I think the dental care quality is not great out in the provinces. The default treatment for tooth pain seems to be extraction.

[QUOTE=FlyGuyEddie007;3030156]Interesting I've been to boracay two times before I never seen any hookers anywhere maybe I miss something where exactly?[/QUOTE]They were at station 2 along the beach walk after 10 pm.

Exit bar was flooded with them at night, and they were waiting right outside the bar waiting for people to leave. That's where I picked up a little thing that looked like Veronica Rodriguez.

[QUOTE=KingSquared;3031072]I've noticed this too. I think the dental care quality is not great out in the provinces. The default treatment for tooth pain seems to be extraction.[/QUOTE]I think is the lack of education, from parents, siblings, school, about dental hygiene, and second lack of funds if something happens and needs repair. My GF had braces, and was 80 k plus 3-5 k adjustments every 2-3 months total about 100 k, her wealthy aunt paid for it before I knew her, but most girls and their families never seen that kind of money all in one place all their life, nonetheless to have it. After we got together I wanted to change it to Invisalign, because I was afraid it will hurt my dick but the cost was around 250 k, so I said keep it like that and will do it carefully, but was only the scare because the contraption doesn't come in contact with the dick.