American Politics

[QUOTE=Canada;3070001]He didn't beg for the plane. It was offered to the USA government because the new air force one was delayed at least 7 years. The plane would have had a 2-3 year refurbishment so Trump would never ever fly in it. It would be for future presidents. Not a bad deal for America. Turning a million into billions still takes an extraordinary businessman. I would bet that very few in the world could do it. I know I couldn't turn a million into a billion. I was a successful businessman and did not make a billion but I suppose you did the way you discount Trump business sense.[/QUOTE]We have more important issues than what type of plane wants to fly. The reason why it's taken so long is that Trump wants to change the color of the plane that screwed things up because the darker colors would cause the plane to heat up.

Let's be clear the White House, Air Force One do not belong to Donald Trump. The White House is a workplace he doesn't get to make into something tack like Mar A Lago. The plane from Qatar is bribe and wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill retrofitting it so it can be gifted to him when he leaves office. Who does that?

Even Ferdinand Marcos did not have the nerve to steal as brazenly from his country as Trump has. Here's what going to happen: he's going to get a stripped down plane and it be at his own expense. So, someone needs wake him up during one those cabinet meetings and remind that his mug won't be on our money and there will be no take home plane.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;3070096]Qatar give money to terrorists, so they can offer a boeing to Trump, quite same for my ethic. In my country, in my town, I don t support Paris soccer team owned by Qatar. I would have been happy if they left Paris after their slavery 2022 soccer worldcup, when big mistake to organize 2026 worldcup in USA of Trump, shameful for Iran team and Sudanian refereee, but this is USA of Trump and shameful Infantino suck him, when USA are nothing for soccer. Mexico is a real country for soccer, when probably best ever worldcup was in Mexico in 1970, when I was unfortunately too young.[/QUOTE]My mistake and apologize, not Sudan, but Somalian for the best referee of Africa who was not allowed to do his job in worldcup. About Qatar, we know their slavery and how they use to buy people and Trump.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070137]We have more important issues than what type of plane wants to fly. The reason why it's taken so long is that Trump wants to change the color of the plane that screwed things up because the darker colors would cause the plane to heat up.

Let's be clear the White House, Air Force One do not belong to Donald Trump. The White House is a workplace he doesn't get to make into something tack like Mar A Lago. The plane from Qatar is bribe and wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill retrofitting it so it can be gifted to him when he leaves office. Who does that?

Even Ferdinand Marcos did not have the nerve to steal as brazenly from his country as Trump has. Here's what going to happen: he's going to get a stripped down plane and it be at his own expense. So, someone needs wake him up during one those cabinet meetings and remind that his mug won't be on our money and there will be no take home plane.[/QUOTE]That is your opinion. Just not the truth.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070134]Indignant? You lost me when you made that leap. I asked a simple question: Would you be ok if Barack Obama used the presidency to dodge his taxes? There's nothing "legal" about what Trump is doing yet you make excuses for him as if you a spokespersons.

This is what gets me about Trumper's they can dish out but can't take incoming.[/QUOTE]Legitimate expenses and losses are not dodging taxes. Every business man in USA does this including myself. Including Obama, including every person in congress. Yes everyone would be fine with Obama dodging his taxes like Trump did but Obama was never smart enough to have a business. He was a career politician.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070044]How do you know he had so much a $1 more than he owed in debts before he squeaked out a razor-thin election victory and immediately launched into trading political and government contract favors for Billions in bribes for the Trump Crime Family?

Have you seen his tax returns for the decades before he became so-called president? When was that? Where? Got a link for that?

His handlers are working furiously to prevent anyone from ever seeing or auditing his tax returns going all the way back to the times when his daddy gave him $1 million, he lost that in a nanosecond and then his daddy plowed through a seemingless endless series of million dollar bailouts here, million dolar bailouts there, some illegal, some questionable until the day his daddy died and the million dollar bailouts came to a halt.

As boastful as Trump is about things he had nothing whatsoever to do with, why wouldn't he want the world to see what a brilliant businessman he was all those decades before and during his time as the most corrupt, grifting president in history?[/QUOTE]I understand that people like you who never had a business and never employed anybody would not understand the tax code. If you don't understand the tax code for businesses you should be making up hypothetical cases about Trump or anybody else. You just face the fact that Trump is a very successful businessman. You can't accept his success or the success of America. Criticizing Trump successes only and add me the Obama and Biden presidencies look worse.

[QUOTE=Canada;3070204]Legitimate expenses and losses are not dodging taxes. Every business man in USA does this including myself. Including Obama, including every person in congress. Yes everyone would be fine with Obama dodging his taxes like Trump did but Obama was never smart enough to have a business. He was a career politician.[/QUOTE]Then why did Trump have his defense attorney Todd Blanche (cosplaying as AG) present him with an out by barring the investigation and punishment for cheating on his taxes for the last several decades?

His daddy left him a business that went bankrupt 6 times and you consider him a "smart" businessman? You must have really been drinking the Trump Kool-Aide. Name someone else who ran their daddy's business into ground that you consider smart?

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070137]We have more important issues than what type of plane wants to fly. The reason why it's taken so long is that Trump wants to change the color of the plane that screwed things up because the darker colors would cause the plane to heat up.

Let's be clear the White House, Air Force One do not belong to Donald Trump. The White House is a workplace he doesn't get to make into something tack like Mar A Lago. The plane from Qatar is bribe and wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill retrofitting it so it can be gifted to him when he leaves office. Who does that?

Even Ferdinand Marcos did not have the nerve to steal as brazenly from his country as Trump has. Here's what going to happen: he's going to get a stripped down plane and it be at his own expense. So, someone needs wake him up during one those cabinet meetings and remind that his mug won't be on our money and there will be no take home plane.[/QUOTE]Obviously you don't have a clue. It has been a proven fact that Trump would never fly in tat plane. Why do you continue to post this garbage?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070130]Deadbeat Repub much?

Here, let me help you with that and thereby demonstrate along the way why I wouldn't have wanted to provide a link if I were arguing your and Canada's side either.

Oh, BTW, yes of course there is a direct NYT link for this Real News report. But it is blocked from freely reading it behind a paywall. So this link is a better one to post on message boards. As would be one for The Guardian. Just FYI.

[B]5 takeaways from NY Times report on Trump's tax returns.
Sept. 28, 2020[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/5-takeaways-ny-times-report-021700525.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3MyBR_rYrzTmh_f1UGFaVRI-cExPvIvcggnY2xdATx2cGUWicgKYhtvqTCoxtjyDyFoR351PVDIFKPkI4Vy0zg1GLHAnRspSly8lYJ4h-Jt-Ur6nzWNqIMNUakkIkKwZWLdoNL7H1T5ehHalQp5Dzm6SxwMKBaEvSqCX5GQcgc[/URL]

Gee, if I were the "successful, smart businesman" and blatantly obvious con man Trump is and owed one hell of a lot more than I ever earned, what would be the next slick move I might make to con 70 - 77 million dumb Repub hillbillies into putting me in a position to make someone else pay back all of my business loss debts? You know, like the American working men and women tax-payers..[/QUOTE]Some people are smart enough not to even read fake links from these liberal anti Trump sites. Obviously you are not? Sad.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070134]Indignant? You lost me when you made that leap. I asked a simple question: Would you be ok if Barack Obama used the presidency to dodge his taxes? There's nothing "legal" about what Trump is doing yet you make excuses for him as if you a spokespersons.

This is what gets me about Trumper's they can dish out but can't take incoming.[/QUOTE]I'm a fair and balanced classical liberal, not a Trumper. That's why the Marquesa hates me more than Tooms.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070137]
Even Ferdinand Marcos did not have the nerve to steal as brazenly from his country as Trump has.[/QUOTE]That's ridiculous. Marcos created a world class kleptocracy. Trump isn't in the same league. If you look at their entire political careers, Trump isn't even close to Lyndon Baines Johnson, the man who's responsible for some of Toom's beloved legislation that's going to bankrupt America. Trump tried to steal an election. LBJ actually did. And practically all of LBJ's sizeable fortune came from corruption.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070137]
Let's be clear the White House, Air Force One do not belong to Donald Trump. The White House is a workplace he doesn't get to make into something tack like Mar A Lago. The plane from Qatar is bribe and wants the American taxpayer to foot the bill retrofitting it so it can be gifted to him when he leaves office. Who does that?
[/QUOTE]Trump's pretty brazen, but he'd never attempt to use Qatar's Air Force One after he leaves office. He looks at it like his name on the Kennedy Center, his face on Mount Rushmore, and the Big Beautiful Ballroom. It will sit in the Trump presidential museum, and serve as a tribute to his greatness. Yes I suspect outfitting it is a waste of taxpayer money. And no, accepting a $400 million gift from Qatar on behalf of the USA was not wise.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;3070130]Deadbeat Repub much?

Here, let me help you with that and thereby demonstrate along the way why I wouldn't have wanted to provide a link if I were arguing your and Canada's side either.

Oh, BTW, yes of course there is a direct NYT link for this Real News report. But it is blocked from freely reading it behind a paywall. So this link is a better one to post on message boards. As would be one for The Guardian. Just FYI.

[B]5 takeaways from NY Times report on Trump's tax returns.
Sept. 28, 2020[/B]

[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/5-takeaways-ny-times-report-021700525.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAL3MyBR_rYrzTmh_f1UGFaVRI-cExPvIvcggnY2xdATx2cGUWicgKYhtvqTCoxtjyDyFoR351PVDIFKPkI4Vy0zg1GLHAnRspSly8lYJ4h-Jt-Ur6nzWNqIMNUakkIkKwZWLdoNL7H1T5ehHalQp5Dzm6SxwMKBaEvSqCX5GQcgc[/URL]

Gee, if I were the "successful, smart businesman" and blatantly obvious con man Trump is and owed one hell of a lot more than I ever earned, what would be the next slick move I might make to con 70 - 77 million dumb Repub hillbillies into putting me in a position to make someone else pay back all of my business loss debts? You know, like the American working men and women tax-payers.

Lolol.

Yeah, you and Canada would be much better off staying miles away from any links to support your usual utterly made up horseshit excuses for your historic deadbeat know nothing, do nothing Repub heros.[/QUOTE]That's weak Tooms. I could do a lot better without insulting 70-77 million Americans.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;3070265]That's weak Tooms. I could do a lot better without insulting 70-77 million Americans.[/QUOTE]Those 70 -77 million dumb Repub hillbillies who could have but did not vote for Clinton in 2016 and Harris in 2024 have done so much damage to America there is no amount of insulting them that would even the score.

And the fact that everyone knows they would vote for him or anyone as hateful of America again in a heartbeat is why America is the laughing stock of the world and will never be taken seriously as a trade partner, a defense partner, the leader of the free world or anything else of importance again.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070213]Then why did Trump have his defense attorney Todd Blanche (cosplaying as AG) present him with an out by barring the investigation and punishment for cheating on his taxes for the last several decades?

His daddy left him a business that went bankrupt 6 times and you consider him a "smart" businessman? You must have really been drinking the Trump Kool-Aide. Name someone else who ran their daddy's business into ground that you consider smart?[/QUOTE]Get your facts right before you post this garbage. It should be very embarrassing for you to be so wrong on the facts.

[QUOTE=Canada;3070329]Get your facts right before you post this garbage. It should be very embarrassing for you to be so wrong on the facts.[/QUOTE]What "facts" do I need to get "right?" You act like I just insulted your girlfriend.

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3070213]Then why did Trump have his defense attorney Todd Blanche (cosplaying as AG) present him with an out by barring the investigation and punishment for cheating on his taxes for the last several decades?[/QUOTE]The U.S. Department of Justice has issued a settlement addendum that forever bars the IRS from auditing or investigating Donald Trump, his family, and his businesses regarding any tax returns filed before the agreement's effective date. Signed on May 19, 2026, by Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche, the order explicitly states the government is "forever barred and precluded" from pursuing examinations into unpaid taxes or other claims related to past filings for the President and his affiliates.

Scope and Terms The one-page document expands a broader settlement in which Trump dropped a $10 billion lawsuit against the IRS over alleged tax return leaks. In exchange, the administration established a nearly $1.8 billion "Anti-Weaponization Fund" to compensate individuals claiming government persecution, though Trump and his sons are ineligible to receive payouts from this fund. The tax investigation ban applies to all "presently known or unknown" claims but reportedly does not prevent future audits of tax returns filed after the settlement date.

Controversy and Criticism Legal experts and Democratic lawmakers have condemned the move as an unprecedented abuse of power, noting there is no prior precedent for the IRS agreeing to permanently forgo examinations of a specific person's past returns. Critics argue the arrangement violates federal statutes prohibiting presidential interference in audits, while the Justice Department defends the clause as a customary waiver standard in legal settlements to prevent re-litigation of resolved claims.

[B]Please point out exactly in the post above is not factual.[/B]

[QUOTE=Canada;3070329]Get your facts right before you post this garbage. It should be very embarrassing for you to be so wrong on the facts.[/QUOTE]