Manila

[QUOTE=Goferring;3031000]Online: surprisingly quick and easy in manila. Thousands of girls available at short notice but these include the scammers. You need to weed out those too good to be true. 4-5 k LT.

Street walkers: surprisingly Burgos street walkers are the cheapest option for a new foreigner in Manila. Have your gaydar set to high but there are some diamonds in the rough. 1. 5-2 k, ST only, in a nearby hourly hotel.

Introductions via doormen, taxis etc: 3-5 k plus a 1 k tip for the introduction. See Phil's posts.

Many other options that I haven't included.

*All prices don't include drinks.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Great info for the newcomers G.

As for online hook-ups, my average has been about 3 k - 4 k, but once you know what you're doing, you'll achieve this price through negotiation. I'm always mindful if the time I'm hunting online or PL for a better rate is worth the effort involved. Having said that, if I throw an offer out there of 3 k, one of them will get back to you to seal the deal. These have always been over-nighters too.

As for street walkers in Makati, yes, the majority have a set of balls, so buyer beware. At 1-2 am in the morning when the genuine girls have come up empty for the night and are getting desperate for some cash, your chances really improve. I've walked outside the City Garden hotel around this time just to get some fresh air and check out the mayhem on the street, and have walked back in with a decent girl who spent the night and it worked out to be 3 k. Saw her on multiple visits afterwards too at the same rate, and at an earlier hook-up hour.

Agreed, Burgos isn't the only option to find hotties and to get laid in Manila_ Phil.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3031000]

Online: surprisingly quick and easy in manila. Thousands of girls available at short notice but these include the scammers. You need to weed out those too good to be true. 4-5 k LT.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]I think you are probably right but just wanted to share my not so good experience in Manila. I arrived there after visiting 5-6 different countries with great success with online girls (Tinder or Instagram), and also based on the "glory" of the Philippines, I was kind of overconfident thinking that I'm Brad Pitt entering a fish pond. And I made some mistakes, some bad decisions. Mainly not putting much effort in preparation. Talking and maintaining contacts with the girls few weeks before arriving. You can add the bad luck to the equation and it turns out to be not so good. So for other first timers in Manila. Do not make my mistake. Build your contact database, prepare for bad surprises and have plan E, F, G.

I arrived and for some reason I decided that it will be a great idea do "import" a girl from some other city. I met her on tinder and why on earth I made that newbie mistake I don't know. Anyway, she arrived, met her with a flowers, we had great night at some fancy bar, it was really good start. Then we went to my place and the circus started. Basically no sex, we have to know each other better, things like that. We slept on one bed, it was ridiculous feeling, and in the morning I wished her good bye. She started to cry, I was feeling really bad but what can I do.

Next 2-3 days were mainly chatting on Tinder with dozens of girls but nothing comes up. A lot of scams, a lot of ladyboys, a lot of normal girls wanting to build a relationship. Or few cute freelancers that weren't available that night. I was really shocked, I was thinking that I'm the only man in Manila that is going to bed alone. I wasnt feeling that Brad Pitt confident anymore LOL So after 3 nights alone, I found real gem - 24 year old Freelancer, just starting to work as engineer at some big construction company. It was an amazing night, a night that I still remember after 2 years. So it turns out that its possible, sometimes you have to go throug the bad period.

Next evening was my last one, then I met a normal girl who was a little offended when I offered her money while chatting on Tinder. We met on a nice rooftop bar and had really amazing night, we clicked great. We close the bar LOL, at 2 am they stop working. Sadly she did not come to my place but it was just a matter of time. Which I didn't have as it was my last night. We agreed she to come to me in El Nido for 3-4 days and we even agreed on which date.

I was in El Nido next day, literally buying the ticket on my phone, when another 22 year old Angel finally text me that she is coming to me. She was from the Palawan island. Then it was quite an awkward situation with the girl from Manila but I was honest and just told her the situation. She was too good a girl, she didn't deserve to be lied to with nonsense. Then in El Nido with the other freelancer I spend probably the best time of my mongering life LOL.

My point is that for some reason in Manila for me it was almost a disaster. And as I said, I know what I'm doing and I always have pretty good success all over the world. But in Manila, for me it didn't worked. And then the coin flips and it becomes one of my most memorable trips! So I'm' pretty happy to hear that in fact things are happening in Manila, it was just my bad luck, overconfidence and lack of enough time to make it good.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3031550]As for online hook-ups, my average has been about 3 k - 4 k, but once you know what you're doing, you'll achieve this price through negotiation. I'm always mindful if the time I'm hunting online or PL for a better rate is worth the effort involved. Having said that, if I throw an offer out there of 3 k, one of them will get back to you to seal the deal. These have always been over-nighters too.[/QUOTE]Another option that we haven't highlighted is that girls can move between categories: eg it's not unheard of to barfine a Burgos girl for 10 k, get her number and have her return again before work for 4 k.

Not every girl will do it and it takes time so not for the two days visitor.

Enjoy. G.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;3031559]I think you are probably right but just wanted to share my not so good experience in Manila. I arrived there after visiting 5-6 different countries with great success with online girls (Tinder or Instagram), and also based on the "glory" of the Philippines, I was kind of overconfident thinking that I'm Brad Pitt entering a fish pond. And I made some mistakes, some bad decisions. Mainly not putting much effort in preparation. Talking and maintaining contacts with the girls few weeks before arriving. You can add the bad luck to the equation and it turns out to be not so good. So for other first timers in Manila. Do not make my mistake. Build your contact database, prepare for bad surprises and have plan E, F, G.

I arrived and for some reason I decided that it will be a great idea do "import" a girl from some other city. I met her on tinder and why on earth I made that newbie mistake I don't know. Anyway, she arrived, met her with a flowers, we had great night at some fancy bar, it was really good start. Then we went to my place and the circus started. Basically no sex, we have to know each other better, things like that. We slept on one bed, it was ridiculous feeling, and in the morning I wished her good bye. She started to cry, I was feeling really bad but what can I do.

Next 2-3 days were mainly chatting on Tinder with dozens of girls but nothing comes up. A lot of scams, a lot of ladyboys, a lot of normal girls wanting to build a relationship. Or few cute freelancers that weren't available that night. I was really shocked, I was thinking that I'm the only man in Manila that is going to bed alone. I wasnt feeling that Brad Pitt confident anymore LOL So after 3 nights alone, I found real gem - 24 year old Freelancer, just starting to work as engineer at some big construction company. It was an amazing night, a night that I still remember after 2 years. So it turns out that its possible, sometimes you have to go throug the bad period.

Next evening was my last one, then I met a normal girl who was a little offended when I offered her money while chatting on Tinder. We met on a nice rooftop bar and had really amazing night, we clicked great. We close the bar LOL, at 2 am they stop working. Sadly she did not come to my place but it was just a matter of time. Which I didn't have as it was my last night. We agreed she to come to me in El Nido for 3-4 days and we even agreed on which date.

I was in El Nido next day, literally buying the ticket on my phone, when another 22 year old Angel finally text me that she is coming to me. She was from the Palawan island. Then it was quite an awkward situation with the girl from Manila but I was honest and just told her the situation. She was too good a girl, she didn't deserve to be lied to with nonsense. Then in El Nido with the other freelancer I spend probably the best time of my mongering life LOL.

My point is that for some reason in Manila for me it was almost a disaster. And as I said, I know what I'm doing and I always have pretty good success all over the world. But in Manila, for me it didn't worked. And then the coin flips and it becomes one of my most memorable trips! So I'm' pretty happy to hear that in fact things are happening in Manila, it was just my bad luck, overconfidence and lack of enough time to make it good.[/QUOTE]Nice report, I want to say only 2 things:

1. Building relationships online weeks before arrival does not apply to the PH. Everything is instant.

2. I don't think Tinder is the right platform for PH. Personally I'm using DIA and PL, and to lesser success FB. Other members may correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks for your detailed report. Did you not hit the LA cafe? I don't like BF, but LA cafe certainly has good options. I haven't tasted online options but read and seen mc, escortsitemakati has good options. I do agree, putting some effort ahead of travel, collecting all the potential options but not necessarily reaching out and lining up your options ahead of time is a good strategy.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;3031559]I think you are probably right but just wanted to share my not so good experience in Manila. I arrived there after visiting 5-6 different countries with great success with online girls (Tinder or Instagram), and also based on the "glory" of the Philippines, I was kind of overconfident thinking that I'm Brad Pitt entering a fish pond. And I made some mistakes, some bad decisions. Mainly not putting much effort in preparation. Talking and maintaining contacts with the girls few weeks before arriving. You can add the bad luck to the equation and it turns out to be not so good. So for other first timers in Manila. Do not make my mistake. Build your contact database, prepare for bad surprises and have plan E, F, G.

I arrived and for some reason I decided that it will be a great idea do "import" a girl from some other city. I met her on tinder and why on earth I made that newbie mistake I don't know. Anyway, she arrived, met her with a flowers, we had great night at some fancy bar, it was really good start. Then we went to my place and the circus started. Basically no sex, we have to know each other better, things like that. We slept on one bed, it was ridiculous feeling, and in the morning I wished her good bye. She started to cry, I was feeling really bad but what can I do.

Next 2-3 days were mainly chatting on Tinder with dozens of girls but nothing comes up. A lot of scams, a lot of ladyboys, a lot of normal girls wanting to build a relationship. Or few cute freelancers that weren't available that night. I was really shocked, I was thinking that I'm the only man in Manila that is going to bed alone. I wasnt feeling that Brad Pitt confident anymore LOL So after 3 nights alone, I found real gem - 24 year old Freelancer, just starting to work as engineer at some big construction company. It was an amazing night, a night that I still remember after 2 years. So it turns out that its possible, sometimes you have to go throug the bad period.

Next evening was my last one, then I met a normal girl who was a little offended when I offered her money while chatting on Tinder. We met on a nice rooftop bar and had really amazing night, we clicked great. We close the bar LOL, at 2 am they stop working. Sadly she did not come to my place but it was just a matter of time. Which I didn't have as it was my last night. We agreed she to come to me in El Nido for 3-4 days and we even agreed on which date.

I was in El Nido next day, literally buying the ticket on my phone, when another 22 year old Angel finally text me that she is coming to me. She was from the Palawan island. Then it was quite an awkward situation with the girl from Manila but I was honest and just told her the situation. She was too good a girl, she didn't deserve to be lied to with nonsense. Then in El Nido with the other freelancer I spend probably the best time of my mongering life LOL.

My point is that for some reason in Manila for me it was almost a disaster. And as I said, I know what I'm doing and I always have pretty good success all over the world. But in Manila, for me it didn't worked. And then the coin flips and it becomes one of my most memorable trips! So I'm' pretty happy to hear that in fact things are happening in Manila, it was just my bad luck, overconfidence and lack of enough time to make it good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3031590]Nice report, I want to say only 2 things:

1. Building relationships online weeks before arrival does not apply to the PH. Everything is instant.

2. I don't think Tinder is the right platform for PH. Personally I'm using DIA and PL, and to lesser success FB. Other members may correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]Agree, it's always good to read warts and all reports. It's pretty normal to have good days and bad days. Good to read that his stay worked out well in the end.

1/. Agree. Planning ahead can attract the girls looking for sponsors without even meeting. No show rates for 'next month' are extremely high. Good girls don't trust promises to meet 'later'. Nawty girls want a customer now.

2. PL is my go to. FB walkers are a waste of time. Good girls are better organically walking around during the day. 10's are on IG but be prepared for the attitude.

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3031596]Thanks for your detailed report. Did you not hit the LA cafe? I don't like BF, but LA cafe certainly has good options. I haven't tasted online options but read and seen mc, escortsitemakati has good options. I do agree, putting some effort ahead of travel, collecting all the potential options but not necessarily reaching out and lining up your options ahead of time is a good strategy.[/QUOTE]Is escortsitemakati reliable? I was scrolling through it for my upcoming trip, but wasn't sure because of the endless scrolling and website design. Could the learned counsel share its experience?

Cheers!

Thanks for this nice and short list of action points in Manila.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3031000]I think we may have been wrong in presenting Burgos as the only option to find hotties and to get laid in Manila. It certainly isn't. There are many ways and places to find girls of all descriptions. However, unless you have an extensive contacts list, you do need some way to connect with said girls. That's where the cost comes in. It could be monetary or time cost but I don't know anywhere we can just turn up and start fucking with out some form of exchange.

Here are some options, from $$ to $ that you may want to also consider.

Burgos: already covered extensively. Basically designed for guys who have more money than time. 10 k LT*.

Makati / Poblacion night club freelancers: some stunning girls but they will know their value. It can take time to find what you want and have her agree to come with you. 5-15 k LT.

Same clubs but part timers or civilians. Much less mercenary and can be equally as good looking. Game is needed and expect to be buying her drinks and investing time. Her time can cost half of the professional or even free. 0-4 k LT..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldAndUgly;3031590]Nice report, I want to say only 2 things:

1. Building relationships online weeks before arrival does not apply to the PH. Everything is instant.

2. I don't think Tinder is the right platform for PH. Personally I'm using DIA and PL, and to lesser success FB. Other members may correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]This time while I'm in the Philippines I'll try DIA and PL. I underestimate them it seems. FB is not my thing, I can't even force myself to open the app on my phone. But DIA and PL will be tested, I'm curious how they will work.

BTW allow me to disagree about the relationships weeks before coming. Its nice way to build a contact base. The trick in my opinion is not to over-text, just few jokes for 2-3 days, to feel the girl and she to feel you. If she is a good lucking girl, then she can choose from huge selection of horny men. I'm always amazed what a constant explosion of notification is the phone of a good lucking girl. So for me few days of chatting is the way to how to say, lets called it to stand out from the herd. If you can, sometimes its pretty hard and you need a lot of luck.

Then "my receipt" LOL is after 2-3 days of chatting, I'm keeping the fire with occasional messages once per 3-4 days. And the whole process in my opinion must not start more than one month before arrival. The sweet spot I think is 2-3 weeks but I'm always impatient and I start doing it 4-5 weeks before arrival. But yeah, just building the base and then when you arrive, then its the "Everything is instant" phase. Things are happening super fast and most of the times the way you didn't even expected. In bad and good ways LOL.

Having said that, its my way of doing things. A lot of paths are leading to the legs of the local girls, that's what I'm using. And for some reason it didn't worked in Manila. But lets say it was a one time bad luck situation, now in Cebu will try it again. If its now working there, then it seems my strategy is not working in Philippines and I have to adapt LOL.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;3031654]This time while I'm in the Philippines I'll try DIA and PL. I underestimate them it seems. FB is not my thing, I can't even force myself to open the app on my phone. But DIA and PL will be tested, I'm curious how they will work.

BTW allow me to disagree about the relationships weeks before coming. Its nice way to build a contact base. The trick in my opinion is not to over-text, just few jokes for 2-3 days, to feel the girl and she to feel you. If she is a good lucking girl, then she can choose from huge selection of horny men. I'm always amazed what a constant explosion of notification is the phone of a good lucking girl. So for me few days of chatting is the way to how to say, lets called it to stand out from the herd. If you can, sometimes its pretty hard and you need a lot of luck.

Then "my receipt" LOL is after 2-3 days of chatting, I'm keeping the fire with occasional messages once per 3-4 days. And the whole process in my opinion must not start more than one month before arrival. The sweet spot I think is 2-3 weeks but I'm always impatient and I start doing it 4-5 weeks before arrival. But yeah, just building the base and then when you arrive, then its the "Everything is instant" phase. Things are happening super fast and most of the times the way you didn't even expected. In bad and good ways LOL.

Having said that, its my way of doing things. A lot of paths are leading to the legs of the local girls, that's what I'm using. And for some reason it didn't worked in Manila. But lets say it was a one time bad luck situation, now in Cebu will try it again. If its now working there, then it seems my strategy is not working in Philippines and I have to adapt LOL.[/QUOTE]It's up to you of course, but my advice is to browse if you want, but don't engage, most likely nothing good will come out of it. The hookers use the apps like an ATM, for instant withdrawal, not for the next week improbable deposit. You may burn some bridges by engaging too soon, or setup yourself for scams.

[QUOTE=Onojdi;3031654]This time while I'm in the Philippines I'll try DIA and PL. I underestimate them it seems. FB is not my thing, I can't even force myself to open the app on my phone. But DIA and PL will be tested, I'm curious how they will work.[/QUOTE]I suggest TanTan app, I have more success with it, but there is a high number of ladyboys there.

[QUOTE=NvRoberto;3029204]Sharing a good contact I have in Manila. Yes, pricier than your P. Burgos Street girl, but I have rarely been disappointed by the ladies. Ask to see the girls of Solemn Massage and ask for the VIP sex package (ya, not very discreet but you'll get the FS without the lame massage).[/QUOTE]What was the duration? 1 hour? What do you think is the possibility of arranging something outside their working times?

[QUOTE=Jimmyzhu;3031892]What was the duration? 1 hour? What do you think is the possibility of arranging something outside their working times?[/QUOTE]Jimmy, there is always a way of arranging extracurricular activities with girls to cut out the middle men and everyone else taking a cut.

Keep in mind, they know how much you're willing to pay in the first place.

Having said that, if a girl needs 3 k right now, she'll work out a way to get it.

That is, unless you're an ass / arse hole.

_ Phil.

[QUOTE=OxygenFresh;3031612]Is escortsitemakati reliable? I was scrolling through it for my upcoming trip, but wasn't sure because of the endless scrolling and website design. Could the learned counsel share its experience? Cheers![/QUOTE]Hi Oxy,

If you'll be in Makati you'll have pussy on your doorstep.

I think you'll find you'll have a lot more immediate options logging into Pina Love when you arrive and at a much better price, especially for over-nighters and long time options.

Or, hit the street. You won't go home alone in Makati.

(Just make sure it doesn't have a pair of knackers).

Just my experience_ Phil.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3031903]Hi Oxy,

If you'll be in Makati you'll have pussy on your doorstep.

I think you'll find you'll have a lot more immediate options logging into Pina Love when you arrive and at a much better price, especially for over-nighters and long time options.

Or, hit the street. You won't go home alone in Makati.

(Just make sure it doesn't have a pair of knackers).

Just my experience_ Phil.[/QUOTE]Thanks Philly,

PL will be my first option for sure. Just looking out for a rainy day (figuratively) just in case. I will be there for 6 days (my first trip to PH) in the last week of October and want to make the most of it. From what I've read, PH is a different ball game compared to TH, Indonesia, UK or even Dubai, where I've had several encounters. So looking forward.

Cheers!