Jakarta

Sorry I was going to ask:

Is there any real good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.

If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?

Thanks as always.

€35 that's insane bro. Indo nos are really cheap ideally should have paid between 10-15. You should have opted for Telkomsel or IM3, although former is better. Getting a SIM in the city center is a pain and tedious process.

[QUOTE=XXL;3024920]I bought a Simpati phone number with 80 GB at the airport for 35 euros. I specified I wanted a physical SIM with a phone number and phone functionalities (ie not just data). I also specified I was interested in receiving phone calls from abroad, not so much in calling foreign numbers. Now it turns out my phone number can do only that: receive phone calls from abroad. It can neither send nor receive SMSs! It also shows up as "SIM 3" on my dual SIM Android, which is not a good sign since it is the only SIM inside so it should show as SIM 1 or SIM 2.

I assumed if a package has phone functionalities it will automatically be able to do SMS. Why are they doing this? Would it break the bank for a package to include a few dozens of text messages? I was thinking of using text messages to set up a dedicated Whatsapp and Telegram account on my second smartphone. I suspect the calls from abroad will be some kind of Voip, so it will not be able to receive verifying phone calls from Whatsapp or Telegram..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3024922]That's not true at all. I reported back in Thailand and have been thanked for it. Please don't make stuff up if you haven't looked properly, you make me look like an ungrateful see*nt and it's not nice my friend.

Anyways, I've been to Lokasari and Classic Terminal 5.

Lokasari is exactly how I expected it. You walk from the main big road in the South and keep walking towards the KFC. It's the stretch between the main road and the KFC. You will be approached from either the left or the right side. I was approached on 2 different days by an older woman and a younger man. They offer "ladies".

So anyways, I inspect the area on day 1. I am walking from Lokasari Square in the North toward the South, I am just walking past the KFC in the area under the building when a young man approaches me. He quotes 300 k. I say I'm too tired and will be back tomorrow. I keep walking towards the big road and a woman stops me and also offers ladies for 500 k. I say 300 k, she says no, I walk.

On day 2 I am back in the evening just before dark and a woman (maybe the same one) quotes 400 k. I say 300, she says 350. I repeat 300 and explain that a man had quoted 300, she says "okay" and walks towards the KFC. As we walk I tell her that I want young but at least 18, slim, okay okay let's go, so we go. There is a single woman inside this shack, slim, petite, pretty but messed up teeth. I don't mind but where are all the other "ladies" everyone is talking about? There's no one else. So she offers the girl and I accept. Now she wants 20 for "food". I had literally come with exactly 300 k because I had decided that I wasn't going to allow anyone to scam me, so I apologise and say "next time". Shouldn't have said that. WTF is going on? I never read about food charges or similar BS in these forums..[/QUOTE]The real question is why did you give a tip for shit service?

And no you didn't get unlucky.

Mamis only care about commission not about service.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3024400]Venues like Classic, Kota Indah bars and Travel Hotel are reliable meat markets for sure AR.[/QUOTE]Kota Indah not without it's risks, something bad went down there recently and Star Moon bar now closed with entrance door all taped up with yellow police tape. Tried to get the story out of a friend in security from one of the other bars but it's very hush hush. Apparently it wasn't good.

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3024922]Let me tell you that Lokasari really disappointed me in every possible way. I don't think I'll ever go back to that place. Maybe I got unlucky.[/QUOTE]And what about this surprised you? You claim to have read the reports and many of us (myself included) have described Lokasari exactly as you described it. Yet over an over again for some reason people seem to think its like Sukhumvit or some plaza in Medellin or something based on nothing but their imagination. Well at least you saw for yourself.

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3024922]That's not true at all. I reported back in Thailand and have been thanked for it. Please don't make stuff up if you haven't looked properly, you make me look like an ungrateful see*nt and it's not nice my friend.


Let me tell you that Lokasari really disappointed me in every possible way. I don't think I'll ever go back to that place. Maybe I got unlucky.[/QUOTE]Good report!

I wanted to go bareback doing HIV-PreP and DoxyPrep on this, my third Jakarta visit this year. I stopped the HIV-PreP 4 days into the loading phase on account of side-effects:

1) Sleeplessness.
2) Light headache around the eyes when sleeping.
3) Body aches when lying down over and above the ones I usually get because of hard mattresses and sleeping in the same position for too long.
4) Feeling low-spirited.

The pain in 2) and 3) didn't respond to paracetamol or ibuprofen.

HIV-PreP is definitely poison for me.

I'll do doxocycline only. I've had two shots of the Brexsero vaccine already. I may take 800 MG of Cefixime before I fly back to Thailand just to be on the safe side. The last thing I want is to give gonorrhea to my long-standing bareback regular Thai girl.

I sessioned 3 girls in Classic today. I don't recount my barebacking success here in this post because I don't want Classic staff who possibly read of this forum to be able to identify the girl(s). Something I was told today suggests BBFS might be against Classic house rules.

[QUOTE=XXL;3024987]I wanted to go bareback doing HIV-PreP and DoxyPrep on this, my third Jakarta visit this year. I stopped the HIV-PreP 4 days into the loading phase on account of side-effects:

1) Sleeplessness.
2) Light headache around the eyes when sleeping.
3) Body aches when lying down over and above the ones I usually get because of hard mattresses and sleeping in the same position for too long.
4) Feeling low-spirited.

The pain in 2) and 3) didn't respond to paracetamol or ibuprofen.

HIV-PreP is definitely poison for me.
[/QUOTE]Depending on how quickly the side effects became noticeable / uncomfortable, you might want to look into the alternative regime of "2-1-1". Instead of daily, it's on demand, though you have to start at least two hours before sex. May or may not be an alternative for you.

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3024923]Sorry I was going to ask:

Is there any REAL good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.

If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?

Thanks as always. =).[/QUOTE]I've seen people here mention 300-500, and I may have been offered extra for 500 ekstra at a hotel I was staying before, though not sure I remember right.

Currently I go to a massage place in a nearby mall for "sports massage". I get the same old bat everytime, and have to reserve in advance, as it seems she's the only woman there who does sports massage (they have a list of other massages, which other women do also, but sports massage: it seems only this women, or males). I pay around 200 k for 90 minutes and the massage is competent enough. Tipped her 50,000 the first time (I had no idea, so just made a guess), which she seemed overjoyed with.

No recommendations unfortunately, but if a place / staff does sport massage also (in addition to all the other stuff), odds are somewhat higher they will do other massages too somewhat better than average.

[QUOTE=XXL;3024987]I wanted to go bareback doing HIV-PreP and DoxyPrep on this, my third Jakarta visit this year. I stopped the HIV-PreP 4 days into the loading phase on account of side-effects[/QUOTE]Which Prep medication did you use?

Truvada is the old Prep, you can get it easily and for cheap in many Thai pharmacies but it has more side-effects.

And there is the new Descovy with less side-effects but you might have to go to pulse clinic to get a prescription.

[QUOTE=XXL;3024987]I wanted to go bareback doing HIV-PreP and DoxyPrep on this, my third Jakarta visit this year. I stopped the HIV-PreP 4 days into the loading phase on account of side-effects:

1) Sleeplessness.
2) Light headache around the eyes when sleeping.
3) Body aches when lying down over and above the ones I usually get because of hard mattresses and sleeping in the same position for too long.
4) Feeling low-spirited.

The pain in 2) and 3) didn't respond to paracetamol or ibuprofen.

HIV-PreP is definitely poison for me.

I'll do doxocycline only. I've had two shots of the Brexsero vaccine already. I may take 800 MG of Cefixime before I fly back to Thailand just to be on the safe side. The last thing I want is to give gonorrhea to my long-standing bareback regular Thai girl.

I sessioned 3 girls in Classic today. I don't recount my barebacking success here in this post because I don't want Classic staff who possibly read of this forum to be able to identify the girl(s). Something I was told today suggests BBFS might be against Classic house rules.[/QUOTE]Just feel compelled to point out that the chances of a guy getting HIV from vaginal sex are 4 in 10000. And that assumes the girl has it. If you figure the worst case scenario that one in ten girls has it (way over estimated) then your chances of getting it from pussy sex are 4 in 100,000. More likely to be hit by lightning. Truly.

[QUOTE=Safado70;3025003]Which Prep medication did you use?

Truvada is the old Prep, you can get it easily and for cheap in many Thai pharmacies but it has more side-effects.

And there is the new Descovy with less side-effects but you might have to go to pulse clinic to get a prescription.[/QUOTE]Excellent point. Totally forgot about that.

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3024923]Sorry I was going to ask:

Is there any real good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.

If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?

Thanks as always.[/QUOTE]There are quite a few options available. It's definitely not like Thailand where you find one on every corner, but still enough to choose from. I've seen many of them in Mangga Besar, Pasar Baru, China Town, Blok M. A traditional massage usually costs anywhere from 150 K at a simple, no-frills place to around 400 K at nicer establishments, with 250 K being about the average for an hour.

Most hotels have an in-house option where they will come to your room, or you can simply search "Pijat" or "Refleksi" on Google to find nearby places where you can walk in. Many also offer home service and can come to your hotel, and you'll often find massage centers in shopping centers / malls as well.

Some of the ones I tried, Rasa Reflexi, Lokasari Reflexi, Cici massage, Halona Spa, Shanghai Kop & Relaksasi, Pijat tradisional Wahid Hasyim. These are strictly massage.

The ones that offer extra including hotels, spas, quote ridiculous prices about 500 K to 1000 K for he. I normally decline them unless I really like the girl like the ones in underground Spa at Classic.

[QUOTE=EdAdams;3023416]I get the point you're making, and I agree to some extent. But if we're talking about wanted sex and weighing cost, experience, and consistency, sugar babies come out on top. You get regular, high-quality sex, minimal drama, and a clear understanding of expectations. It's transactional, yes, but there's usually effort on both sides to maintain the arrangement, which makes the experience more enjoyable.

Also, if you're someone who prefers full, bareback sex and finishing inside, you're almost guaranteed that with sugar babies. Then girlfriends. Then, depending on the dynamics, maybe your wife. With prostitutes, it's rarely on the table unless you pay significantly more. And even then, it depends on her mood and how you handle it.

So if you factor in quality, consistency, cost, and overall satisfaction, sugar babies offer the best return on investment.[/QUOTE]Glad ure enjoying jak sb scene mate!

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3024923]Sorry I was going to ask:

Is there any real good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.

If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?

Thanks as always.[/QUOTE]This really is a 'how long is a piece of string' type of question. Indo massages can be everything from a fully legitimate and skillfully delivered deep tissue massage to a barely concealed fuck joint. Jakarta has numerous of both and everything in between.

A cheap massage will either be a crap prelude to extra services or a grandma who will have you screaming in pain in minutes 😭. Don't expect any stunning girls from the ones who do offer extras.

A very rough guide is that a happy ending HJ costs about as much as the massage itself and, if FS is available, it may be. 3 or 4 x markup. As mentioned elsewhere, for 4 or 5 star hotels that have in room options the girls may ask at least 1 jt just for a HJ.

My recommendation is to keep an eye out while moving around your area. A 'Massage' is more likely to be a straight massage. A 'Panti Pijat' will have extras and a 'Kebugaran' will be the same but likely pretty seedy. This is just a rough guide and the quality of the massage itself varies wildly between individual providers.

Enjoy. G.