Jakarta

[QUOTE=Muzungufotsy;3024934]The real question is why did you give a tip for shit service?[/QUOTE]I regretted that. It won't happen again.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;3024941]And what about this surprised you? You claim to have read the reports and many of us (myself included) have described Lokasari exactly as you described it. Yet over an over again for some reason people seem to think its like Sukhumvit or some plaza in Medellin or something based on nothing but their imagination. Well at least you saw for yourself.[/QUOTE]It was worth trying it once just to see it and report back. I can picture it being decent if you deal with the right person and get the right girl. I read about people getting poor service everywhere, Lokasari may just be more risky.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3025000]No recommendations unfortunately, but if a place / staff does sport massage also (in addition to all the other stuff), odds are somewhat higher they will do other massages too somewhat better than average.[/QUOTE]Good advice thanks!

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3025041]Some of the ones I tried, Rasa Reflexi, Lokasari Reflexi, Cici massage, Halona Spa, Shanghai Kop & Relaksasi, Pijat tradisional Wahid Hasyim. These are strictly massage.

The ones that offer extra including hotels, spas, quote ridiculous prices about 500 K to 1000 K for he. I normally decline them unless I really like the girl like the ones in underground Spa at Classic.[/QUOTE]At these rates it's a little ridiculous. 1 juta for a happy ending? Better get a normal good massage for 100-150 k and then see a regular working girl then.

Thanks for the names of the massage places!

[QUOTE=Goferring;3025072]My recommendation is to keep an eye out while moving around your area. A 'Massage' is more likely to be a straight massage. A 'Panti Pijat' will have extras and a 'Kebugaran' will be the same but likely pretty seedy. This is just a rough guide and the quality of the massage itself varies wildly between individual providers.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I was wondering what all these different names for massage are for. I was playing with MiChat (haven't done anything with it yet) and I keep saying three or four different names for massage. Of course I learned about "bo" too.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3025073]Welcome field report. Back seat punter here. If I read correctly into this post, the OP haggled to pay pretty much the least possible and paid IN ADVANCE? After the girl realized that the punter didn't have even one euro (IDR20 k) to spare, without any other incentive to be a proactive provider, perhaps it is no surprise that the she was gagging to get it over with so she can get back to mami or papi to get her (probably half) cut. Word of advice is [U]not[/U] to pay in advance with Lokasari girls. And if they start messing about, act calmly, reasonably and firmly to manage the situation.[/QUOTE]After reading the field reports carefully it was my understanding that you must pay the agent (not the girl) in advance if you want to take the girl, and then you tip the girl after the deed. I don't think my approach was wrong. You could be right in that I should have said something about tipping when we were chatting during our walk to the hotel, but my feeling is that that wasn't the reason for the poor service.

Classic Hotel: you enter from the main hotel entrance on the South. For Terminal 5, walk counterclockwise around the central cafe / escalators island, until you reach the "Toilets Lift" sign. That's where you take the lift to the 5th floor.

There was a man behind a counter who pretended to pat me before letting me walk toward the reception where I was met by two beautiful girls in cosplay-like clothing, coloured contact lenses and other ethereal frills. Who are they? It didn't look like they were available. They gave me a numbered bracelet and allowed me onto the floor.

It's a big floor, one big area, with two sitting sofa areas where all the girls are waiting. The place had just opened (6 PM) so it wasn't busy, just 2 or 3 groups of Asians sitting at the back tables. As I walked toward the middle of the floor a mamasan, who was sitting at one of the tables, started walking towards me as she gesticulated "come come" with her hands. I kept it simple: "I like slim young and friendly". For some reason she inspired trust in me: she exuded this honest "I have the right girl for you" aura.

She pulls out a green laser and points it at a blonde girl who was sitting with the other girls in the farthest sofa area. She was sleeping, with her head tilted back, face toward the ceiling, mouth wide open. I threw a quick gaze at the other girls and I have to say it was unsightly, verging on an abomination. It was a surreal view: the golden haired sleeping beauty not giving a fuck about the rest of the world in the midst of an amass of alert mediocrity with a huge green laser on her face, the girl next to her poking her awake.

I explained to the mamasan that I wanted to chat with her for a bit so that's what we did. She is a sweet girl. I signed the piece of paper with my number and the name of the girl and off we went to a respectable room with a bed, a small table, a shower and a big mirror.

I won't go into great detail on the meeting itself. We have a shower, chat and joke a little before we are ready to start. She likes kissing: perfect. She suggests using the condom for the blowjob, I suggest without, she suggests a tip. Average blowjob, good sex, in fact she rides me vigorously with a back and forth motion (without pulling in-out) for a good 3-4 minutes to make herself reach an orgasm. Spectacular.

I didn't notice if there was a clock in the room, but I was in the room for a maximum of 40 minutes. Next time I'll know to take things more slowly.

Very good first experience, but I feel like I was lucky. The other girls looked too unattractive. I had a good look at the girls in the sofa area closest to the entrance as I was paying and man oh man.

Damage: paid by card so 380 k rupiah, plus the 100 k tip to the girl, total 480 k paid.

Next time I want to see Terminal 2.

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3024923]...

Is there any real good local massage place where I can get good cheap massages? I've seen places advertising 120 k per hour.

If extras were to be offered, what would be the going rate for a he?

Thanks as always.[/QUOTE]Even in the first decade of the century, when Jakarta was one big Roman orgy and night-life was five times as big as it is now, massages with happy ending were already considered overpriced by most mongers on this forum. It was only worth it if you liked spending time doing sauna, having the dead skin on your feet gnawed by fish etc. Venues were popular with Japanese men. I'm talking about clean, upmarket venues. I remember "Delta massage" somewhere south of Blok M.

In fact the best "masseuses" I ever got were those from Mercure Ayam Wuruk where I was staying. They would allow full service, not just handjob, at a reasonable surcharge. I surmise hotel masseuses might be the best deal in Jakarta, unless Mercure was an exception in allowing their masseuses to give full service to hotel guests.

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3025092]

I won't go into great detail on the meeting itself. We have a shower, chat and joke a little before we are ready to start. She likes kissing: perfect. She suggests using the condom for the blowjob, I suggest without, she suggests a tip. Average blowjob, good sex, ..[/QUOTE]Girls charging extra for a BBBJ? That sucks.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;3025067][URL]https://www.linkedin.com/posts/erudite-risk_penyegelan-starmoon-bar-tamansari-juga-peringatan-activity-7364900495389282304-EJ2D[/URL]

A single underage girl gets knocked up, so goodbye to the entire Star Moon venue to be made an example. Even Google has it as "Permanently Closed". Expect to see even more oldies and chubbies at the remaining KI bars. I wouldn't be surprised that this sends a message to other venues as well. Enjoy Jakarta, AR.[/QUOTE]

It is disappointing that this bar is closed, and even more troubling to read about the reason. It used to be one of the oldest and most popular bars in its day, but lately it was dull and desperate for business. I have never seen anything illegal during my visits there, everyone seemed to be legal age and older compared to other KI bars, but who really knows. Hope one unfortunate incident at this bar doesn't lead to the closure of other bars.

[QUOTE=JuneFly;3025177]It is disappointing that this bar is closed, and even more troubling to read about the reason. It used to be one of the oldest and most popular bars in its day, but lately it was dull and desperate for business. I have never seen anything illegal during my visits there, everyone seemed to be legal age and older compared to other KI bars, but who really knows. Hope one unfortunate incident at this bar doesn't lead to the closure of other bars.[/QUOTE]I see police drive in and pick up "donations", was told Starmoon was the only independent bar. Had great memories there years ago.

All the other KI bars are run / own by 1 group. So this will be a total monopoly for them.

Sari Ayu's line-up is usually complete at 4 pm. Yesterday there was not even a line-up to speak of. Only a handful of fatties who were not even dressed-up. I hope this is only a Sunday effect.I drank a coke, used the toilet and went.

[QUOTE=Tryntry;3025210]All the other KI bars are run / own by 1 group. So this will be a total monopoly for them.[/QUOTE]ASTRO and HAPPY (almost across from each other) are also independent. But each only has around 15 girls. I did find one that I liked and took her twice.

[QUOTE=XXL;3025241]Sari Ayu's line-up is usually complete at 4 pm.[/QUOTE]You sure? I've been there many times (on a weekday though), and lot of girls arrive at 5 pm. Some even at 6 pm. In fact, I was supposed to go there yesterday, but texted a couple of my favourites there and neither said she's be in Sari. So, I ordered home delivery from another girl that I know from Classic. Sundays, though, is usually a little quieter.

Forgot, "V" (Vfour) nearest the street, is also independent.

While swallowing my 200 MG doxocycline in the Classic room after the deed, I noticed my girl was also tearing up some aluminium-wrapped medication. What could it be? Some kind of PreP? Some anti-baby thing? I enquired: it was trihexyphenidyle, a medication formely prescribed for Parkinson's. I asked her whether there was anything wrong with her brain. She replied she was taking it for endurance, to "help her in her work". Well, well, well. I guess that's the war on drugs for you. As drugs get suppressed, people in search of a high fall back on whatever is available.

Puri Sehat is a massage place a 5 minutes' ride from Classic. They wanted 112 k IDR from us just for looking. We said "next time" and left. My wingman called a motorbike Gojek back to Classic. My plan was to go to Grand Indonesia but 3 taxis cancelled the ride after accepting it and keeping me waiting. Why do cabbies accept only to ask me to cancel? If I hadn't gone back to the hotel on foot I'd still be there seeing taxis cancelling one ride after the other.

On the way back I passed a laudry shop where you pay kilowise. It's in the basement of Heef Hotel not far from the bridge leading from the Classic side of the road to the Pasar Baru side.

Wanting a variation from that old bat who's been giving me sports massage at the mall the last couple of days, I ventured into a hotel I've been passing by daily, and which has a big "24 h massage" banner displayed both outside on the road and on the hotel itself, thinking it might be a somewhat big and competent massage place.

Two receptionists, one semi-attractive, were sitting there when I arrived. I asked if I could choose masseuse? No, have some queue system, but all are female. Ok, what kind of massage is it? Apparently a confusing question, but was told it's full body. Ok, sports massage, oil massage, what kind? More confusion, but apparently I can tell the masseuse. Oh well, for 150,000 for 90 minutes it's not the world, so lets see. Maybe I'll get a pleasant surprise? Not bloody likely, but who knows. The receptionist also found it prudent to repeat to me a couple of times the price did not include a tip to the masseuse, to make sure there was no doubt about that.

Got a room key with room number written on it, and took the stairs up to the third floor. Looked like an ordinary, but very crappy, hotel room, with a somewhat musky smell. Had a bathroom and a shower, but couldn't see any towel. Fortunately, I had just returned from a session at Classic, and stopped by this massage place on the way back, so was freshly showered anyway.

Stripped down to my underwear at first, so I would at least be able to defend myself not completely naked if somebody stormed in, and laid down on the bed. After a long time, I was starting to wonder if there'd been some mixup and I had entered the wrong room somehow, as no masseuse were to be seen, but after 20+ minutes she finally arrived.

A not completely unattractive woman, around 30 years of age I guessed, entered. She later claimed to be 26. Once she had arrived I stripped off my boxers and laid down on my stomach, and she initially started with some type of dry massage. Something that could perhaps best be described as a sort of incompetent thai massage. Made me think that maybe she thought I was weird to strip down naked for what was a dry massage, but after some 10 minutes, she started to spray oil on my back, and continued a normal, mediocre, oil massage.

I was a bit unsure if junior would wake up or not, as in the morning I'd banged a michat girl, a young 6 (I'm starting to get the hang of michat, so kudos to GG, there is some truth in what he was saying, but it takes some practice), and some hours after that a girl at Classic, a young 8, while the woman currently massaging me looked like a 12 years older 5 at best. After about 50 minutes of massaging me back, during which time excused herself to use the in-room bathroom, which resulted in the incompetent plumbing bringing in another unpleasant odour, to mix with the already not overly pleasant smell in the room once she flushed, she asked me to flip over and massaged my front for about 5 minutes, before asking me if I wanted her to massage junior, who had by now against all reason, woken up. Unfortunately he even wakes up when that old bat gives me the sports massage, so is bit of an embarrassment at times, and nothing any woman should take as a compliment. I told her no thanks, and a minute later she told me ok, finished, and asked me if I wanted to take a shower.

I said yes, thank you, but then checked the time, and enquired a bit as to why I had paid for 90 minutes, but she only massaged for 60 minutes? The reason was, apparently, that "some customers like to take a long shower". I told her ok, never mind then, no need to take shower, can continue massage.

She then told me that the time started once I went up to the room, and showed me some paper that had a timestamp of around 80 minutes earlier. I told her that she only arrived in the room 20 minutes after that. She then started to type something into google translate, which she had been using for the communication so far, but at this point I knew it was a lost cause, so I just typed "never mind" into my own google translate, and had a shower.
The woman was still waiting in the room when I got out of the shower, at which point I put on my clothes, said a half-hearted thanks and bye, and walked out without looking back.

Tip: 0. Repeat: No.

[QUOTE=XXL;3025341]
Puri Sehat is a massage place a 5 minutes' ride from Classic. They wanted 112 k IDR from us just for looking. We said "next time" and left. My wingman called a motorbike Gojek back to Classic. My plan was to go to Grand Indonesia but 3 taxis cancelled the ride after accpeting it and keeping me waiting. Why do cabbies accept only to ask me to cancel? If I hadn't gone back to the hotel on foot I'd still be there seeing taxis cancelling one ride after the other.
[/QUOTE]Assuming Gojek, like Grab, has different fare options, I'm guessing another customer offered to pay more, or there was some traffic issue. I normally choose the cheapest option, but if I've already received a couple of cancellations and don't want to wait any more, I choose one of the more expensive fare options in the app, which usually results in a faster acceptance and no further cancellations.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3025345]Assuming Gojek, like Grab, has different fare options, I'm guessing another customer offered to pay more, or there was some traffic issue. I normally choose the cheapest option, but if I've already received a couple of cancellations and don't want to wait any more, I choose one of the more expensive fare options in the app, which usually results in a faster acceptance and no further cancellations.[/QUOTE]I now always choose the "faster" option in Gojek. God knows what would've happened today if I'd chosen the cheapest. Probably they'd have waited an additional 5 minutes before cancelling.

[QUOTE=Werqweq;3025342]Wanting a variation from that old bat who's been giving me sports massage at the mall the last couple of days, I ventured into a hotel I've been passing by daily, and which has a big "24 h massage" banner displayed both outside on the road and on the hotel itself, thinking it might be a somewhat big and competent massage place.

Tip: 0. Repeat: No.[/QUOTE]Deja Vu at Hotel Mustika in Gajah Mada, my first time was not bad, but the second time was utterly disappointing.