Jakarta

[QUOTE=XXL;3025341]Puri Sehat is a massage place a 5 minutes' ride from Classic. They wanted 112 k IDR from us just for looking. We said "next time" and left. My wingman called a motorbike Gojek back to Classic. My plan was to go to Grand Indonesia but 3 taxis cancelled the ride after accepting it and keeping me waiting. Why do cabbies accept only to ask me to cancel? If I hadn't gone back to the hotel on foot I'd still be there seeing taxis cancelling one ride after the other.[/QUOTE]Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.

As soon as I land in the airport, I take their promo subscription as well which is around 75 k for 10 coupons or something where you get a percentage discount per ride for 10 rides. Their cabs have been good for me. Only one negative experience so far where I was dropped a few meters away from a mall due to traffic where the driver convinced me that was the drop location allocated for Mall but it was very evident he was dropping me due to traffic and he was able to take a you-Turn. That is a very small bad event but otherwise cancellations problem was never there on Blue Bird.

[QUOTE=Scarer;3025496]Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.

As soon as I land in the airport, I take their promo subscription as well which is around 75 k for 10 coupons or something where you get a percentage discount per ride for 10 rides. Their cabs have been good for me. Only one negative experience so far where I was dropped a few meters away from a mall due to traffic where the driver convinced me that was the drop location allocated for Mall but it was very evident he was dropping me due to traffic and he was able to take a you-Turn. That is a very small bad event but otherwise cancellations problem was never there on Blue Bird.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I used to take Bluebird once in a while until I had two or three drivers in a row try to take me to the wrong drop-off or try to tell me he couldn't get to where I needed be. Once ******* couldn't find the restaurant I was looking for and had the never to tell me to get out and walk and try to find it. I told him I'm not leaving your car until you get me to where I'm pay you to take me. If you don't know the area, then don't accept the effing ride, moron.

[QUOTE=Scarer;3025496]Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.
[/QUOTE]When a Bluebird waits in front of the hotel or the mall, it is obviously the fastest option because you don't have to call and wait for a Grab. They are a little bit more expensive than Grab, but still quite cheap. Actually often when it rains the surge pricing makes grab more expensive than bluebird.

I still don't use bluebird a lot because many of the cars are smelly. I think this happens because the drivers spend a lot of time waiting in their cars without air-conditioning.

Quick report on Classic Terminal 2.

My first time. Friendly mamasan, but she immediately picks one girls that I don't like. I'm a bit shy and don't want to send her away so I chat with her for a few minutes while I muster the courage to ask for a different girl, which I do.

The new girl seems great. We have a good chat, she is fun to talk to, so we call the Ibu.

Well we are in the room getting started and she doesn't kiss. That's 50% of the fun gone. Then she literally opens the condom without warning and tries to put it on for blowjob. I stop her, utterly confused, asking for an uncovered blowjob. This is 2 out of 2 times in Classic, covered blowjob must be the norm here. She gives a less than average owo for 1 minute and decides to stop. I ask her to keep going and she says "do you want another one? LOL I wasn't aware that blowjobs are things that are counted discretely. The "second" blowjob is better. Sex in various positions is okayish, she just doesn't seem to enjoy sex in general. Then the bad smell ruined it. I knew it was some kind of fungal infection which is gross.

After the deed, as we shower and get changed, it looks like her initial verve is all gone. We still chat, but she is somewhere else. This change of attitude kind of demolished anything salvageable. For me the before, during and after are all important. I picked the wrong girl, it happens.

After these two episodes in Classic, one positive and one negative, I decided to give Lokasari another chance. I don't know why but that's how I felt. Maybe I disliked all the bullshit you have to go through before you can pick a girl.

[QUOTE=Scarer;3025496]Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.

...[/QUOTE]I stick to Gojek because I want to pay by credit card. I keep my small change for tips. Even if Bluebirds accept credit card I wouldn't want to risk compromising my credit card each time I use a Bluebird. However, I may eventually come round to generating more small change and using Bluebird from time to time as there's no other alternative.

A question regarding MiChat.

Most girl don't have good pictures. Do you move the conversation to WhatsApp for a video call? I tried that a couple of times and didn't get responses. I thought they couldn't be bothered or they were fakes.

Should I make it obvious that I am a bule or communicate in Indonesian with Translate until they give me the local rate? I noticed that the girls who figure out that I am a foreigner (they start the conversation in English) quote insane amounts, like 1 juta plus.

If I'm not mistaken, from what I've seen in their profile description, the rates vary between 300 k and 600 k. I would not want to spend more than 500 k anyway.

Silver and bluebirds are more expensive than your Gojeks and Grab wheels but definitely more reliable. Almost at every hotel you'll see them parked on the porch.

[QUOTE=Scarer;3025496]Have you tried BlueBird? Been a great use for me in Jakarta compared to GoJek or Grab.

As soon as I land in the airport, I take their promo subscription as well which is around 75 k for 10 coupons or something where you get a percentage discount per ride for 10 rides. Their cabs have been good for me. Only one negative experience so far where I was dropped a few meters away from a mall due to traffic where the driver convinced me that was the drop location allocated for Mall but it was very evident he was dropping me due to traffic and he was able to take a you-Turn. That is a very small bad event but otherwise cancellations problem was never there on Blue Bird.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3025538]A question regarding MiChat.

Most girl don't have good pictures. Do you move the conversation to WhatsApp for a video call? I tried that a couple of times and didn't get responses. I thought they couldn't be bothered or they were fakes.

Should I make it obvious that I am a bule or communicate in Indonesian with Translate until they give me the local rate? I noticed that the girls who figure out that I am a foreigner (they start the conversation in English) quote insane amounts, like 1 juta plus.

If I'm not mistaken, from what I've seen in their profile description, the rates vary between 300 k and 600 k. I would not want to spend more than 500 k anyway.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure GG can post something more useful, but a quick guide from my experience these past days.

- easier for the girls/admin if you translate from english to bahasa yourself. Somebody has to do it.

- price 300-400, upto 500 (only paid this once, and only because I had not yet discovered the "if you want without condom" rule.

- two girls: 800.

- if you want without condom, specify that when offering your price (300-400). Some will reject, but unlike e. G. Thailand, most will accept. The benefit of this is it avoids any possibly demands for extra money once on the bed, while nothing extra should be demanded for this.

- always ask for original, unfiltered photos, but don't expect to really get them. If photos look ok, proceed to video call. A lot of "free cancel if not like photo" nonsense, but usually you don't want to waste 30 minutes to wait for some fake to show up either, and then turn her away downstairs in the lobby. Also you don't want to risk any drama downstairs in the lobby, plus it probably looks a bit weird if you go up and down 6 six times during an evening (what I did my first day).

- videocall again once they say they've arrived at the hotel, before going down to meet, or as a minimum, selfie from the hotel. Usually quicker to just videocall again.

- prepare to waste a lot of time initially. After a while you kind of start to feel based on the conversation who is a fake.

[QUOTE=XXL;3025341]While swallowing my 200 MG doxocycline in the Classic room after the deed, I noticed my girl was also tearing up some aluminium-wrapped medication. What could it be? Some kind of PreP? Some anti-baby thing? I enquired: it was trihexyphenidyle, a medication formely prescribed for Parkinson's. I asked her whether there was anything wrong with her brain. She replied she was taking it for endurance, to "help her in her work". Well, well, well. I guess that's the war on drugs for you. As drugs get suppressed, people in search of a high fall back on whatever is available.[/QUOTE]Trihexyphenidyl is abused due to a short acting mood-elevating and euphoric effect. It is quite common as is Happy5 - a lot of Malio and Classic girls have confirmed they use it. Sad thing is these girls are being fed these pills by the mamasans / managers to help them cope up. Which also explains the largely positive attitude of the girls in Jakarta. Drug abuse is a serious problem here.

[QUOTE=Rajdasking;3025063]Glad ure enjoying jak sb scene mate![/QUOTE]Haha mate you've got to try the SB scene in HCMC Vietnam but not on Seeking please. There's no fun in offering an allowance / spoiling to someone who's already put her self up on that seeking brothel. Instead try direct approach at shopping malls, and regular dating apps. Bumble, Hinge, Tinder, TanTan etc. Let's evolve from fucking sugar babies to making sugar babies LOL. Introduce them to the sugar world!

[QUOTE=HappyFarang;3025528] This is 2 out of 2 times in Classic, covered blowjob must be the norm here. [/QUOTE]Only for you it seems. Out of dozens of experiences I have had zero covered BJ and over 90% BBFS. Most other posters here confirm the same. Not sure what it is about your looks or your little guy's look that's making the girls literally "run for cover". Now Travel on the other hand I have had uniformly bad experiences in CBJ and attitude in general. But Classic has always at least delivered the basics.

At Werqweq and other guys who have experience with michat girls.

Do you call the gojek for the girls and if so, have you noticed the location of the girls? Are they all over Jakarta or are they more concentrated in a certain area?

Guys where are the places that have MILF (age 30-45) physique women.

To the logical monger who would say most of classic gals are single moms and school me about the very definition of a MILF - Please don't ❤️ I am specifically interested in the physique of middle aged women

[QUOTE=HolaaaaHiiii;3025749]Guys where are the places that have MILF (age 30-45) physique women.

To the logical monger who would say most of classic gals are single moms and school me about the very definition of a MILF - Please don't ❤️ I am specifically interested in the physique of middle aged women[/QUOTE]I've seen a few at Shangri La Bats Bar, CJ Mulia, and My Bar in Blok M, and also heard at Eastern Promise and Basque. I noticed a couple of Mamasans at Kota Indah and Kelapa Gading are quite a MILF, you can get their numbers and make plans.

[QUOTE=SuperLove;3025657]Silver and bluebirds are more expensive than your Gojeks and Grab wheels but definitely more reliable. Almost at every hotel you'll see them parked on the porch.[/QUOTE]Bluebirds were good, till one outside the hotel tried to dud me with a fare 4 times the price it would be on the meter in 2023. That was the last time I've used a Bluebird. Grab and Gojek all the way since. It was also the first time in over 20 years that I have had them not turn the meter on immediately, and try and rip me off. Both happened at once which was a double whammy enough to avoid using.

I had been an adament user of the Bluebird app in the days before Uber, which may have shielded me from any funny business (still needed to pay in cash then) but the above experience was the first time I had just jumped into a Bluebird in years.

Silverbirds lost their lustre once the Toyota Crowns got taken off the roads. Oh for the days of a Silverbird for 100 k ALL NIGHT as your personal chauffeur. Mr popular as you club hopped with enough room with your chosen girl (s) for the night. And her friends.