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[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3036343]Visiting Manila next week and looking for the best looking girls, ideally a student who can hold a convo and wants to go out on dates. Based on my research Seeking will give me that, PinaLove isn't as great and escort sites like MC are below that in terms of optics. Did I get that right, or are there even better options?[/QUOTE]Problem with seeking in Manila today is everyone and their grandma's wet dog is on it. Many of the girls on seeking are the exact same ones on tinder / pinalove / bumble / hinge / whatever dating app is out there. Exact same girls with the exact same pictures across multiple platforms. Some will literally try to sell their conversation and listening skills (no sex whatsoever!) as a reason why you should pay them. You even have the regular tondo street girl who spends all day with her shabu selling Filipino gang member boyfriend (s) on the app demanding 15 k+ pesos because why not, it's seeking and she hears its full of pay pigs.

I'm not saying you can't find what you're looking for on there, it's just that the app is saturated beyond comedic ridiculousness and be prepared to do some extra digging.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3036343]Visiting Manila next week and looking for the best looking girls, ideally a student who can hold a convo and wants to go out on dates.[/QUOTE]Call me crazy but wouldn't the best place to find real college students be a college? Or the places they gather?

There are many 7-ELEVEN and McDo's that attract a swarm of hot girls every lunchtime. Of course, walking up to a group of young, attractive, educated girls and asking if they want to suck dick for $50 may not have the desired effect. It's amazing how girls with options may not select lecherous foreigners as their first port of call.

I'm not a Seeking user. But I do find most guys who report about it high on the Simp scale, funding extravagant dinners, allowances, holidays etc while pretending that the girl really finds them attractive. On the flipside, many girls online purport to be a student but in fact don't study anything, just using it as an opportunity to request help with supposed course and exam fees.

If I was looking for the hottest girls I would just use PL or DIA and video chat to screen for conversation ability. Its very easy and quick to sort the girls who can't string a sentence together. There are thousands available in Manila so you won't have issues finding someone. IG has stunners but I find them entitled air heads and with so many guys contacting them, their time and $$ expectations can be outrageous.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=PhilJoy;3036344]

Aim high, just don't be disappointed if things don't go to plan.

You'll find some of the best horizontal action can happen when you 'lower the bar' a little.

Just my experience _ Phil.[/QUOTE]I've also had the opposite. Take home a jeans and tee shirt Plain Jane only to find a bikini model underneath.

A very pleasant surprise indeed.

Enjoy. G.

If I could lower my standards, I'd be happy to. It's cheaper and would make my life easier. But I prefer at least an 8 so I can see her multiple times and not have to weed through dozens of profiles as a part time job.

Everyone and their mother is on Seeking, PL, and probably every other dating app in Manila because there's 20 M+ in the city. But Seeking so far has better optics than PL. Can't speak for the number of simps on the platform because I'm not interested in men.

Assuming DIA is Date in Asia. Solid recommendation, thank you for that. I've seen some better looking options there than PL (where there are almost none for me), just like TF in Thailand. Of course if nothing works out, I'll try to break into a college lecture, ask the girls if they want my dick, and leave a few business cards.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3036460]

Everyone and their mother is on Seeking, PL, and probably every other dating app in Manila because there's 20 M+ in the city. But Seeking so far has better optics than PL. Can't speak for the number of simps on the platform because I'm not interested in men.
[/QUOTE]Pre covid, it was a goldmine of exactly what you're looking for. College girls and college educated professionals galore, I'the say at least 80% of the profiles back then fit this criteria.

Today, Manila seeking literally isn't any better than going to p Burgos or using any of the apps. Because like I said, everyone found out about it and now I'd say your target market probably makes up 20% of the profiles or less. The only difference is the girl who would've been happy with 5 k on tinder or pinalove will demand 15 k+ on seeking for the exact same thing.

Your money I guess.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3036343]Visiting Manila next week and looking for the best looking girls, ideally a student who can hold a convo and wants to go out on dates. Based on my research Seeking will give me that, PinaLove isn't as great and escort sites like MC are below that in terms of optics. Did I get that right, or are there even better options?[/QUOTE]Recently I contact a 9+ on FB out of the blue. She replied and said she was a model. After some dancing around I asked if she was open to meeting up discreetly. She replied possibly yes but what was the allowance? I said 5 k. She replied "I am a model. Starting at 50 k po." I thanked her for her time.

You might have to start at 15 k plus for your criteria.

I have had some luck on pina. Met some non pros that had real jobs in government, colleges etc. But it takes a real date.

The one that I have never had luck is locanto. A couple of ladybugs. Met in lobby, gave them 500 p to go away.

[QUOTE=Goferring;3036433]I've also had the opposite. Take home a jeans and tee shirt Plain Jane only to find a bikini model underneath.

A very pleasant surprise indeed.

Enjoy. G.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I meant G.

Some of the best contacts I have, initially came across a "Plain Janes, or Jhoans" and have turned out to be keepers for many a return visit.

Lower the bar and you'll often get rewarded unexpectedly.

Buy them a feed and a 300 p cheap dress and they'll scrub up pretty well and look quite good hanging off your arm in public, it that's your thing.

Just my experience _ Phil.

Not sure what these ladies think they are—limited-edition Birkins with a pulse? Some FB diva quoted me 150 K. I just thanks, but rather should have said Sweetie, for 150 K I expect you to come with a dowry, a yacht, AND a signed affidavit that you'll do my laundry for life.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;3036479]Recently I contact a 9+ on FB out of the blue. She replied and said she was a model. After some dancing around I asked if she was open to meeting up discreetly. She replied possibly yes but what was the allowance? I said 5 k. She replied "I am a model. Starting at 50 k po." I thanked her for her time.

You might have to start at 15 k plus for your criteria.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yendappu;3036586]Not sure what these ladies think they arelimited-edition Birkins with a pulse? Some FB diva quoted me 150 K. I just thanks, but rather should have said Sweetie, for 150 K I expect you to come with a dowry, a yacht, AND a signed affidavit that you'll do my laundry for life.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately there's always going to be clowns who are willing and happy to pay these rates. Their reasoning is often "well, I can't find this back home so I'm grateful to be able to pay western rates here in south east Asia for something I could and should be getting for 5% of what I'm paying, after dumping thousands of dollars on flights and hotels".

I remember a gentleman on here a few years back giving a girl 50 k pesos or thereabouts for a weekend trip to boracay. Of course he (and these guys) never think beyond a few inches. These girls will go to their friend groups (online and offline) to brag about finding the golden idiot who paid her all this money for basically nothing (maybe 5 rounds of sex max in those 2-3 days plus food, drinks and entertainment paid for by him), and then word spreads about foreigners being dumb clowns who know nothing about the Philippines and can be charged whatever. Sure, one guy might not do that much damage but a collection of guys in their hundreds behaving this way will definitely change the scene in the short term. Just look at what the passport bros and western union / paypal / wise simps have done to Manila (and pinalove at large) post Covid.

Was bit bored last night, so I took a walk around my area (malate) to see if there were any casa (s) available. Too my surprise I couldn't find any, I thought I would be able to find something but alas the changing times. I popped my head into a few establishments, and there seems to be a bit of a racket going on in those bars. They may look like buy me drinky bars and ktvs, but there is action in those bars. There are no bar fines that I could find, but a deal can be made to meet on their off days or after shifts, so there is something there if you want to look.

On a side note was in quiapo for some shopping (picked up a solar generator just in case) and had a drink at a bar and was no problem arranging the girl to come out after her shift. The particular bar I was in was 24 hours, and the girls ran 8 hour shifts, so it was quite easy to arrange something for the evening. Just so no one asks later it was 6. 5 k for overnight with the bar girl there. I do not know if it was a good or bad price, as it was the first time I pulled something from a bar in quiapo, it is what it is.

What is it with PL girls and "Simple" LOL? Many of them describe themselves as simple. Is this some cultural connotation that I don't understand?

[QUOTE=OxygenFresh;3037194]What is it with PL girls and "Simple" LOL? Many of them describe themselves as simple. Is this some cultural connotation that I don't understand?[/QUOTE]Yes it is, and it took me years to decipher / suss out. It means she wants enough income for the following 'simple' items: 1) Food on the table. 2) Roof (non-leaking) over their heads (ala rent). 3) Electric and water bill paid on time. 4) The rare but occasional meal out (fast food is fine); or alternately occasionally 'going around', which is slang for going out to the bar for drinks, food, and / or live band (thrilling for many provincial pinay). 5) Once a year going to the annual brgy or city Festival for hot dog on a stick and a beer (to see and be seen, similar to the County fair in America). 6) Going to Mass. ALL OF THIS IS FOR HER ENTIRE FAMILY. Most of us would consider this basic subsistence living.

There are other things she'd like also, but that pretty much describes it. What she wants, deep down, is for a savior who can provide these things WITHOUT FAIL, month after month. Without enough steady money for these things, pinoy must make choices about which of the above they can NOT have this day / week / month. Girls here routinely have what I call 'rolling emergencies', a series of emergencies each month that change regularly, but usually involve one of the items above. She won't have enough money for #1, 2, and 3 above each month. Which one gets cut out this week?

Interestingly, most pinay are happy when the basics are met.

Great Post. Thanks.

[QUOTE=WestCoast1;3037220]Yes it is, and it took me years to decipher / suss out. It means she wants enough income for the following 'simple' items: 1) Food on the table. 2) Roof (non-leaking) over their heads (ala rent). 3) Electric and water bill paid on time. 4) The rare but occasional meal out (fast food is fine); or alternately occasionally 'going around', which is slang for going out to the bar for drinks, food, and / or live band (thrilling for many provincial pinay). 5) Once a year going to the annual brgy or city Festival for hot dog on a stick and a beer (to see and be seen, similar to the County fair in America). 6) Going to Mass. ALL OF THIS IS FOR HER ENTIRE FAMILY. Most of us would consider this basic subsistence living.

There are other things she'd like also, but that pretty much describes it. What she wants, deep down, is for a savior who can provide these things WITHOUT FAIL, month after month. Without enough steady money for these things, pinoy must make choices about which of the above they can NOT have this day / week / month. Girls here routinely have what I call 'rolling emergencies', a series of emergencies each month that change regularly, but usually involve one of the items above. She won't have enough money for #1, 2, and 3 above each month. Which one gets cut out this week?

Interestingly, most pinay are happy when the basics are met.[/QUOTE]

I originally strolled around the bar side where the bar type casas were before and found nothing. Last night I strolled the casa area where all the small casa's use to be and it looks very promising. At present it is in the pre-casa stage where the girls gather. Like before there were casas the girls would sporadically be on the street, then eventually they would gather at the park before moving on to sitting at a "place", then the sitting place would eventually serve alcohol and food and so on and on until it becomes a take out casa (not to be confused with a stay in casa or dorm). Take out casas emerged from serving the locals and usually established on trucking routes and such. Malate before covid used to have a lot of take out type casas. I spent a many years taking advantage of all the different types of casas in my area, unfortunately I could hot pull the trigger and take one for the team last night. I had every intention of pulling one of the girls to get the feel for where its at, but just couldn't do it. The price (full on foreigner price) was 2 k all night, which isn't bad as I think the local price would only get down too 1. 2-1. 5 (my best guess). If; ll things trend up, I would suspect small casas popping up within the next year, if there is no business, then they will probably migrate.

I'll be around for a couple more days, if someone wants to take one for the team, lmk and I will point you over. My regular is coming by today after school, so I won't be able to pursue it till its end. Will check back on it early next year when I am in the area again.