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[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1365450]The difference being, no one in their right mind would travel to London for mongering (or anything else IMHO).
Thailand became a destination for one reason: poor Thai people sold sexual services at low prices to military staff.[/QUOTE]Thailand is a poor country but BKK is not, or not at the same level as the upcountry.
BKK has a decently modern public rapid transport system, taxi. 4-5 stars hotel as rain drops, expensive venues, restaurants, banks, headquarters. So the prices reflect also the standard of living of the capital.
Go upcountry and you will get low rates and low standard accommodations.
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[QUOTE=Bionicman;1365322]What about your salary in the last 5 or 10 years? Hasn't increased? Cost of life has increased too in Thailand as everywhere, apart few places. Facts of life, I am afraid.[/QUOTE]For me it has gone down also. My company now imports IT talent from India. In my building there are around 2, 000 system support people and 8 out of 10 are now from India. My salary has dropped so as to not be displaced by these resources. The company is also not hiring their own local college grads into the industry because out of school, they would still make more than the India people. So the company would rather import the India people. This is now causing students to focus their studies in other areas / industries. It is fine being from a capitalist country until you start flushing away your own young talent in place of people from other countries all for the sake of bigger corporate profits.
Don't even get me started on my 401K and what corporate America has done to the retirement planning of their own American workers. Anyway, I feel my wages have only moved in tandem with those girls in the pleasure business.
[QUOTE=Scorchin1470; 1365278]An hour in London costs baht 6, 000-8, 000 equiv.
Getting a hot Thai totty for baht 2, 000 is a great deal. And if I spend baht 3, 000 I am still happy.
I am on holiday and I don't want the hassle of arguing prices.[/QUOTE]Things are this way for you because the GBP conversion to the Bhat gives you a great value, making it easy to not want to haggle. Other countries are not as fortunate. This makes it feast for you, and famine for others. Those then that receive lesser value can then accuse you of keeping the prices up.
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[QUOTE=Nclpimp;1364932]Is there such a thing there. If so where in soi cowboy or NEP?[/QUOTE]I've seen a few places in Soi Cowboy offer cheaper drinks early in the evening. Last time I was in Suzie Wong they had a fairly large discount for drinks bought before 9pm. A beer was around 80 baht instead of the normal price of (around) 150. I noticed one guy bought 2 beers right before 9pm, which I guess he was planning to drink slowly while he waited for the 10pm show to start.
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[QUOTE=Ehunter;1365484]Things are this way for you because the GBP conversion to the Bhat gives you a great value, making it easy to not want to haggle. Other countries are not as fortunate. This makes it feast for you, and famine for others. Those then that receive lesser value can then accuse you of keeping the prices up.[/QUOTE]Wrong- the baht / gbp rate has continually gone against British punters over the last ten years.
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[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1365450]The difference being, no one in their right mind would travel to London for mongering (or anything else IMHO).
Yea, I understand the sentiment. And we'll never be able to change your mind. But not everyone is on holiday. Many people live or work in Asia and have seen the transformation. Don't be surprised when they complain about paying 7 times what they paid a decade ago because people fly in for 5 days and throw money around like water before disappearing for another year or two.
Even for your own sake it'd be better to pay closer to market rates. I understand if you don't like to haggle. I don't either. But consider this, if you overpay by 100% you just pissed away another holiday. You could've had 2 for the price of 1.[/QUOTE]1. I am glad you added IMHO in your condemnation of UK punting; it is a great mongering place with rates dropping to £100 / hour for many EE girls.
2. I never view my mongering payments in terms of my next holiday but in terms of what I think reasonable for a good couple of ours fun. I am sure locals are not affected
By my alleged 'over-payments; ' whenever I have been based longer term in a town / city I have always found less costly local produce. I am sure BKK residents do the same.
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[QUOTE=Rick Rock]Bangkok prices are getting very high. For example, a BJ bar in Bangkok will run you about $23. A BJ bar in Tokyo, by most accounts the most expensive city in the world, will also run you about $23. And you get sucked by two girls separately, with two pops if you can manage it.
Pattaya BR girls are $17 ST. Bar girls can be had for $30 LT if you do it right.
In my experience, Cambodia is ABSOLUTELY NOT the place to go for cheap tail, unless you're up for crack addict street walkers, which you can get at home.
Central America, South America and the Caribbean still has lots of cheap ST action in the right spots at $6. $16.
ST action in the Philippines is $17. Prices for LT are even getting a little high there.
If you're into BJ's, Ho Chi Minh City has a bunch of Hot Tocs where some very hot early 20's chicks will give you BBBJCIM for $11.
There's also cheap stuff available in China and parts of Africa, but you have to know where to look.[/QUOTE]I'll call BS on the Japan BJ bar claim. Even if true, so what? Everything else is much more expensive in Japan for the budget or value seeking monger. So he's better off in Bangkok.
As for Pattaya vs Bangkok, you can get streetwalkers in Bangkok for $17 as well. Heck I've read reports of $10 in BKK's Chinatown.
Re Cambodia, a few years back there were reports of $5 FS. Has that changed? Though as you usually pay for what you get, you would probably have to go to some seedy shady location in what is already a seedy country relative to BKK.
Concerning Vietnam, I've read that you can't even take a lady back to the comforts of your hotel room. So for me Ho Chi Minh City is ruled out already before even considering its other many failures compared to Bangkok.
Some other locations like PI and in South America are widely considered significantly less safe for tourists than Thailand.
But if you are Canadian & all you care about is cheap poon, why not stay there & get BBBJs & FS from drug addicted streetwalkers for as little as 5 to 10 dollars.
In fact, if your goal is to save money, why even leave home. You can wack off to oceans full of free and amazing porn for the price of an internet connection.
Personally, though, my dream is to one day live & retire in Thailand, and in particular the City of Angels.
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[QUOTE=Harold444; 1365564]Come on guys, don't play into this guy.
He is the king of strawman arguments. Remember daily breakdowns on bts / mrt. LOL. America is same cost as BKK.
Now japan is same price.
You guys will never win over a guy who makes thing up to state his case.
Now what has gone up 7 times in the last decade. LOL. And LOL![/QUOTE]You seem to be too plain stupid to understand even a single word of what he says.
He is one of the very few guys around who really understands the game.
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[QUOTE=Harold444; 1365199]Is the guys name dante2k or something. I've followed him for a bit, he logs what he does everyday, whatever. On 2plu2 poker forum.
H ealways describes his hooker s as cute and guys eat it up.
I try to explain that low end cambo girls who work in restaurants or hotels and dubble as the village hooker (fee 10$.15$ are butt ugly) but I always get banned. LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's the one. That knucklehead living the dream just sitting in his hotel room all day and trolling for $15 methheads at night. LOL
And yet, he's a savior to many.
Also lots of misinformation there, yet can be entertaining at times.
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Well said.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1365454]Just a reminder that the main purpose of the Bangkok threads is to talk about where there are great places for mongering (in Bangkok) and some great girls that were found.[/QUOTE]Very well said. I'm here trying to get recent intel on hotties and all I find is nonsensical, drawn out, non winnable debate about the microeconomics of mongering. As far as I can see it says "sexguide up in the left hand corner. Let's get the lowdown on where the latest talent is.
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I can back up everything I say. I'm a researcher by profession. I'd be happy to compare sources.
[quote]Remember daily breakdowns on bts / mrt.[/quote]'The BTS breaks down too often! Almost every day, around 5-7pm, you can already expect something is going wrong. '. Kaptan Jungteerapanich. 22, Bangkok resident.
Source: [url]http://bk.asia-city.com/city-living/article/commuter-complaints-bts-skytrain[/url]
[quote]America is same cost as BKK.[/quote]I said BKK is now approaching US prices. (They should be worlds apart; like the income is; like they used to be.) There are absolutely guys paying 5000 baht in Bangkok on any given day. If you don't think so check out some of the field reports and quotes online.
5000 baht is $160. That is the rate for full service at any number of Korean massage parlors in the United States. Check any massage parlor review site. In the biggest cities and some out of the way backwaters it's a little more. It shouldn't be anywhere close.
You can get a rub and tug for $30-50 very easily in the US. Yes, there are now guys paying up to 1500 baht for nothing more than massage and HE in Thailand, sad to say.
[quote]Now japan is same price.[/quote]For a blowjob bar (called "pink salons" in Japan)? Absolutely.
Blowjob bars in Thailand charge 700-800 baht. That's $22. 84. $26. 10 US at today's rates.
A place like Strawberry Club in Tokyo charges 2000 yen for a two girl rotation (15 minutes with each girl separately with a recovery period in between the two, you can POP twice). That's $23. 31 US at today's rates. Twice a month they have specials. 500 yen off, three girls for the price of two, stuff like that.
Check the Tokyo thread for plenty of reports on this place by me and others. Check the websites and compare. Dr. BJ's is easy to find with a Google search. I'll help you with Strawberry Club since it's in Japanese: [url]http://15-club.com/[/url]
[quote]He is the king of strawman arguments.[/quote]None of these are examples of a straw man. Maybe you'd better take a refresher course in logical fallacies.
"A straw man or straw person, is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To 'attack a straw man' is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man") , and to refute it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.". [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man[/url]
[quote]You guys will never win over a guy who makes thing up to state his case.[/quote]I've now sourced all of my comments. What's the basis for your attacks on them?
I'll wait for your sources. I won't hold my breath.
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[quote]Just a reminder that the main purpose of the Bangkok threads is to talk about where there are great places for mongering (in Bangkok) and some great girls that were found.[/quote]I don't think that's all it's for. A review site would be pointless were it limited to "this place is fucking great!" There is room for discussions of prices, comparisons (this is after all INTERNATIONAL sex guide) , criticisms and negative reviews, pointing out dangers and rip offs, etc. And let's not pretend there are tons of hidden gems in BKK that people are finding here. If it's posted on this thread, it's a known place. This isn't 1988 or 1999. The internet is a big place and every mongering spot probably has several mentions somewhere out there, as distant as a 1 second Google search.
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Fortunately there is an "Ignore" function on the ISG. We can filter out the posters whose topics are of little interest.
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[QUOTE=Rick Rock;1365607]I don't think that's all it's for. A review site would be pointless were it limited to "this place is fucking great!" There is room for discussions of prices, comparisons (this is after all INTERNATIONAL sex guide) , criticisms and negative reviews, pointing out dangers and rip offs, etc.[/QUOTE]Technically "The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women". The information should of course be relevant to the Thread title, or otherwise posted elsewhere in a different part of the forum. So the Bangkok thread is for men looking for sex with women in Bangkok. Detailed info about other countries really belongs in the relevant threads for those countries.
By all means tell us where to get the best prices in Bangkok. There is also a special thread for "Places to be Avoided". You might want to use that thread too.